[OT] I hate being American

[Ken Smith]

In article <33op1cF43ivp0U4@individual.net>,
robert j. kolker <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:

Ken Smith wrote:


They may not have to do that. They could Fed-X a Nuke to Washington or
just arrange a few surprises mixed in with the next load toys going to
Walmart.

That trick will work exactly once. If done, we will go on the rampage.

Yes, but who would the US attack, Finland, Libia or Mexico?

Remember what we did to the Japs for killing 3000 American at Pearl
Harbor. Two cities nuked off the face of the earth.

Japan didn't have their own bombs. In a war between the US and China, if
China kills 280 million while the US kills 1 billion, the US loses the
war.


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[John Larkin]

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 04:38:46 +0100, "Laura" <laura@nospam.me> wrote:

What republican home is complete without its own Rosita doing the cleaning
and cooking while José does the gardening?

Right. A lot of Hispanic households are Republican. Strong moral
values, good work ethic, emphasis on family.

But really, you shouldn't stereotype their names so blatantly.

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:30:56 -0000, "George Dishman"
<george@briar.demon.co.uk> wrote:

"Mark Fergerson" <nunya@biz.ness> wrote in message
news:2kZAd.24799$Cl3.6946@fed1read03...
Reg Edwards wrote:

The only terrorist attacks on the UK have been from the IRA - financed
for
many years by the USA.

You mean "Irish-Americans". Not a penny of my taxes ever went to support
the IRA.

The organisation that collects those donations
is registered as a charity in the US so it gets
tax concessions, in a sense a subsidy from your
government that comes out of the taxes you pay.

George

Charities (IRS 501-C-x corporations) don't pay taxes, NOR receive
subsidies.

Personally, I'd like to see churches taxed... particularly yours ;-)

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[George Dishman]

"mc" <mc_no_spam@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:41d448af$1@mustang.speedfactory.net...

The IRA activity is some time in the past now, but
his statement is accurate, a large part of their
funding was from the US.

Maybe individuals acting secretly in the US, but certainly not the US
government.

An organisation which is a registered charity in the
US and therefore gets tax breaks from the US government.

 

[robert j. kolker]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

And the UN is not one the list of charities.

You bet is isn't! The U.N. has turned from an association of nations
formed to fight the fascists to a third-world kaffeklatch. It is a
gathering place and a watering hole for parasites from "developing"
countries, i.e. countries still in the mire of primitivism and tyranny.
It is based on the notion that African countries where clitorodectomies
and cannibalism is practiced are somehow "equal" to civilized industrial
nations.

Bob Kolker

 

[Franz Heymann]

"mc" <mc_no_spam@uga.edu> wrote in message
news:41d448af$1@mustang.speedfactory.net...

The IRA activity is some time in the past now, but
his statement is accurate, a large part of their
funding was from the US.

Maybe individuals acting secretly in the US, but certainly not the
US
government.

*You* were paying for personally by way of tax free concessions to the
donors.

Franz

 

[Francis Burton]

In article <97mgt09ntll8f9ac1ssbit9u2rhrktjjlj@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> wrote:

Wow, it must be strange to be so cynical and downbeat.

Not cynical, just realistic I'm afraid.

Francis

 

[Jim Ward]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:08:41 GMT, Singleterry <singleterry@cnn.com>
wrote:

I hate being American. Yes, it's true. I love our country, but hate it at the
same time. It isn't because of George Bush, no, it's because of us. Us, the
overweight, pompous, arrogant population of America that takes a crap on
every country and expects them to clean it up.

Why couldn't I have been born in England, or Sweden, or Germany, or Italy or
something?

I'm proud to be an American
where at least I know I'm free.
And, I won't forget the men who died
who gave that right to me.
And I'll gladly stand up
next to you
and defend her still today.
Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land...
God Bless the U.S.A.!

 

[John Larkin]

On 2 Jan 2005 15:00:55 -0700, fburton@nyx.net (Francis Burton) wrote:

In article <97mgt09ntll8f9ac1ssbit9u2rhrktjjlj@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> wrote:
Wow, it must be strange to be so cynical and downbeat.

Not cynical, just realistic I'm afraid.

Francis

The reality is that in the US we are healthier, more prosperous,
safer, and wealthier than we have ever been. In the rest of the world,
levels of health, wealth, education, and democracy are at historical
highs and headed up. That's realistic. It's just that a lot of people
- close to 50% of the population, by some studies - are hardwired for
gloom. It's probably a worst-case survival mechanism.

I'm glad that 50% doesn't include me, because it's a great time to be
alive.

Read "The Progress Paradox" by Easterbrook.

John

 

[Jeffrey Turner]

Francis Burton wrote:

John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> wrote:

Wow, it must be strange to be so cynical and downbeat.

Not cynical, just realistic I'm afraid.

Larkin thinks the Iraqis are watching Fox News.

--Jeff

--
It is only those who have neither
fired a shot nor heard the shrieks
and groans of the wounded who cry
aloud for blood, more vengeance, more
desolation. War is hell.
--William Tecumseh Sherman

In war, there are no unwounded soldiers.
--Jose Narosky

The urge to save humanity is almost
always a false front for the urge to
rule.
--H.L. Mencken

 

[David Kastrup]

fburton@nyx.net (Francis Burton) writes:

In article <97mgt09ntll8f9ac1ssbit9u2rhrktjjlj@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> wrote:
Wow, it must be strange to be so cynical and downbeat.

Not cynical, just realistic I'm afraid.

Do you know a single cynic that would plead differently? So you need
a bit more than this blanket statement to support your position.

--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

 

[Lee Rudolph]

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

fburton@nyx.net (Francis Burton) writes:

In article <97mgt09ntll8f9ac1ssbit9u2rhrktjjlj@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> wrote:
Wow, it must be strange to be so cynical and downbeat.

Not cynical, just realistic I'm afraid.

Do you know a single cynic that would plead differently?

Hey, hey! *I'm* a cynic, and I don't believe for a minute that
he's being realistic!

Lee Rudolph

 

[keith]

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:57:43 +0000, Franz Heymann wrote:

"John S. Dyson" <toor@iquest.net> wrote in message
news:cr20ha$1ke8$1@news.iquest.net...

[snip]

It is very probable that the GOVERNMENTAL measures of aid are quite
a bit
lower than the measures of private aid for the US.

In that case you should kick out that self-serving lot and opt for a
more intelligent government next
time round

Nope, we're going to re-elect George, just to piss you off! ...even if we
have to change the rules. If that doesn't work, there's always Jeb.
Anything just to piss you euro-pigs off.

--
Keith

 

[robert j. kolker]

keith wrote:

Nope, we're going to re-elect George, just to piss you off! ...even if we
have to change the rules. If that doesn't work, there's always Jeb.
Anything just to piss you euro-pigs off.

Forget Jeb. Vote for Ahnoldt, after they pass the Scwhartzernegger
Amendment.

Bob Kolker

>

 

In article <nlcgt05hbcts0imrlpsib1vf8j2gp5rb02@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <john@spamless.usa> wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 18:32:11 -0500, Jeffrey Turner
jturner@localnet.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

And, thankfully, the Cold War and its excesses are over. It's called
"progress."

You replace a cold war against "Communism" with a hot war
against "Terrorism" and call it progress? Not that the Cold War
was cold outside of Europe.


Perhaps. The last big bastions of dictatorship are Africa and the
Middle East. Even China is creeping towards some sort of democracy.
Elections in Afghanistan and Iraq are historical; but it remains to be
seen whether democracy can take root in those cultures.

Take a world globe and a good world history book. Start in 1776 and
begin to paint countries blue (or red, if you prefer) as they become
democracies. Your paint consumption increases exponentially, and the
pattern is called "progress"; I'm optimistic that one day it will
cover the world. If you harp on (and perhaps relish) the difficulties
and the mistakes - there have been plenty - you miss the bigger
pattern.

A more interesting followup is measure the time it took to
"convert" infrastructures w.r.t. trade, industry, and economics.
It seems that the only one that lags (out of the norm) is Russia.

/BAH

 

[Gactimus]

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:33t40oF457mvqU4@individual.net:

Morituri-|-Max wrote:

Mother Theresa.

Pope John Paul.

Bob Hope.

Christopher Reeves.

Rosa Parks.

Truly exceptional people, which is to say they are the exception, not
the usual.

With the exception of Christopher Reeves, who supported the harvesting of
humans for his own benefit.

 

[Torkel Franzen]

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> writes:

With the exception of Christopher Reeves, who supported the harvesting of
humans for his own benefit.

An observation of striking relevance to mathematics, physics,
puzzles, astronomy, electronics, and the world at large.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:57:42 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
<notfranz.heymann@btopenworld.com> wrote:

If if needed to be done, it should be done by the Iraqis.
I notice you are not doing anything about Zimbabwe. Could it be that
there is not much oil there?

I think this oil business is to a great extent a red herring. Iraq was
regarded as a threat to Israel; Zimbabwe obviously isn't.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote
(in <3amdnVIaB5O2xkTcRVn-vw@rcn.net&gt about '[OT] I hate being
American', on Mon, 3 Jan 2005:

With the exception of Christopher Reeves, who supported the harvesting of
humans for his own benefit.

What do you mean by 'harvesting'?
--
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The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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[robert j. kolker]

Gactimus wrote:

With the exception of Christopher Reeves, who supported the harvesting of
humans for his own benefit.

Wrong. Embryos are not people. Zygotes are not people.

Bob Kolker