OT: Honda Thinks Hybrids Are Good Enough

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:de95d196-1528-4464-8ce9-73d4bc7c488e@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 2:04:14 PM UTC-5, Whoey Louie
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 11:53:00 AM UTC-5, Rick C
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 10:21:12 AM UTC-5, Whoey
Louie wrote
:
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 6:11:46 PM UTC-5, Bill
Sloman wrote:

The problem is that we have to reduce carbon emissions
fast, and
to a rather low level - about half a ton of CO2 per person per
year.

And hybrids do exactly that. What is better? Someone
needs a new
car,
they buy a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid or there is no hybrid
choice, so they buy an ICE car, because an electric does
not fit their need
.
That is the environment we are in today. But you libs,
it's the ol
d
my way or the highway.

I guess that's why Tesla is selling every car they can make,
literall
y!

And Honda is having trouble? Honda sold 5.5 mil cars last
year, compar
ed
to a few hundred thousand at Tesla. Oh, and Honda actually
makes mone
y,
so there's that.....

And their growth rate over the last few years has been what
exactly? Tes
la has been growing like a weed on steroids.

It's easy to grow fast when you have the govt heavily subsidizing
what you produce and even then, you sell your product at a LOSS.
Go look at the long, long list of early auto companies that
failed.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

Of course they haven't been focused on profits, they've been a
startup. They are just now transitioning into a more stable mode
where profits might happen. Even the former head of GM Bob Lutz
who was predicting their eminent failure has now said they are
looking good.

It is IMMINENT, you retarded fuck!

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

https://www.teslarati.com/?s=Bob+Lutz

Oh yeah, the stock is valued at more than GM and Fiat combined.


So weres the stock of Enron, World Comm, Tyco, etc.

Tesla is not pulling the stupid shit those companies did. You
really are one stupid fuck!

How did they
turn out? They were total frauds,

Just like you!

there are an order of magnitude
more genius tech companies that while not frauds, were valued at
the moon and wound up worth nothing.

Oh boy... retard whooisfullofshit can iterate well known facts
about OTHER companies and the history of their tenure and demise.
You are the fraud, motherfucker.

They are outselling every BEV, hybrid and and plug-in hybrid
offered.
In just over two years they've sold more model 3s than Leafs on
the road over the last 10 years.

Whoopie fuckin doo, chump.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

They are selling model 3s fast
enough to be in the top 20 models sold in 2019, right behind
Toyota Corolla.

Kinda hard to say EVs don't fit the needs of car buyers
today.

It fits the needs of a small percent of the market. The folks
at The Simpsons had an episode about people like you. The
smug, no it alls, that just know what everyone else should do
and how superior they are. They were portrayed as running
around smelling their own farts.

You act like I've told you what to do. I haven't told anyone
what to do,

No, you're just here bemoaning the fact that Honda isn't doing
what YOU claim they should do. Go figure.

Honda will eventually release an all electric model. They are
currently waiting to see how the industry and regulatory segments
iron out their ripples.

You really are one stupid fuck.

in fact, I've publicly said that I don't recommend an EV for
anyone at the moment.

Good for you, you retarded fuck.
Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

Buy it if you really want one, but they
will only be getting better and unless you have to buy a car now,
keep what you have for a few more years.

I would say that he and the rest of us know more about product
evolution than you ever have or ever will.
Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

Then we can all buy EVs and save the planet. lol


A hybrid is a step in the right direction, but doesn't
take us as
far as we have to go.

Fine. I'll buy an ICE car instead. Happy now?

No one cares what you do or say.

Of course not, but then I'm not the one that came here trying
to tell Honda what they should do, you did that.

As usual, you have your knickers in a knot. lol I've told no
one what t
hey should do.

You certainly implied it.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

I'm just pointing out the absurdity of Hachiago's statements and
the fact that his company will not do well if they aren't making
significant EVs in five years when nearly everyone else will
be... if they want to survive.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

One of the side effects of the bushfires currently
burning in eas
tern Australia is that a lot of highways have been temporarily
blocked.

People can burnt to death by driving through a bushfire
as it cro
sses a road.

It nearly happened to me back in 1968 - I drove through
bushfire
smoke, and fifteen minutes later people who thought that that was
what they were doing ended up in flames and dead.

Your way has more risks than you seem to realise.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

It's not my way, stupid. It's the way the world is
currently opera
ting,
it's the rules in place, which of course is the world that
Honda is selling cars into. And BTW, Honda, unlike Tesla,
is profitable. T
esla
has never had a profitable year.

No, but it's still early days.

So, why are you bitching about Honda? Maybe Honda's strategy
is to let the others lose money, make all the mistakes, then
when it's advantageous, enter and compete. How many of the
original auto compani
es
from the turn of the century succeeded?

Honda's CEO Hachiago is the one who indicated he believes there
is not de
mand for battery EVs. So he is the one I am talking about.

There you go, yet you deny it.


--+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209


Have you made any money with all that spamming? Maybe that's why
you're so sore, no one wants to pay you.

You are such a goddamned utter retard.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:db1c2b08-9fa8-4ec2-87bd-19a8ae9fceb5@googlegroups.com:

I guess this thread is dead. The last remaining posters are
always wrong 1 and always wrong 2. Rest in peace.

And as usual, all the while you complain about folks you then go
and spout a retarded crack like this and then expect respect.

You are a few things one of which is total hypocrite.

I strive for whirled peas.

You strive to claim to not be one of the aggressors all the while
spouting veiled or not so veiled insults.

You're a real piece of... 'work'.

I am sure the spores that spawned you are proud.

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:m_3SF.1783$Gh7.387@fx45.iad:

On 1/10/20 3:34 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:vjWRF.151725$QU2.106018@fx01.iad:

The man who lives down the street from me with cerebral palsy
who'll be confined to a wheelchair the rest of his life and has
to use a special prosthetic just to type an email has to
"struggle to survive" I figure I got things pretty good by
comparison...



Lemmie know when he performs Like Hawking did.


With ALS like Hawking had patients usually pass young, he beat the
odds somehow. And for better or worse had a number of years where
he functioned mostly normally. Probably psychologically that's for
the worse.

CP affected this guy at a very early age I'm not sure he was ever
able to speak full sentences as Hawking surely did, much less go
to a regular college and get a degree. What it is, is all he's
known for the most part.

That's another kind of suck as while his verbal communication is
nil he can read, "write", and understand English at an adult level
just fine and even does some web development. but since he sounds
"retarded" when he tries to talk people tend to treat him that way

Well I was simply making a 'funny' crack. No harm meant.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/20 12:56 PM, Rick C wrote:

I guess this thread is dead. The last remaining posters are always wrong 1 and always wrong 2. Rest in peace.

Lol I read this today:

<https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/10/21060568/gm-hummer-electric-pickup-revival-super-bowl-ad-lebron-james?fbclid=IwAR1IPSyoCPAOLKgHBrJ1GVNUItkTyMVti3dJ274EjvLBWYf-Mm1iN7ZrrUE>

Sorry GM. I had hope for you for a while but...they've decided to go to
back to the crack pipe they were hitting before the bailout. Well, that
stuff has a high recidivism rate.

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 8:14:35 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:

On 1/10/20 12:56 PM, Rick C wrote:
I guess this thread is dead. The last remaining posters are always wrong 1 and always wrong 2. Rest in peace.


Lol I read this today:

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/10/21060568/gm-hummer-electric-pickup-revival-super-bowl-ad-lebron-james?fbclid=IwAR1IPSyoCPAOLKgHBrJ1GVNUItkTyMVti3dJ274EjvLBWYf-Mm1iN7ZrrUE

Sorry GM. I had hope for you for a while but...they've decided to go to
back to the crack pipe they were hitting before the bailout. Well, that
stuff has a high recidivism rate.

Not sure what you mean since you didn't really say anything, but I assume you think there is something flawed with the idea of an electric Hummer as opposed to the electric Tesla truck or the Rivian electric truck or any of the many other electric trucks in the works.

So what exactly is your complaint?

--

Rick C.

+-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:Wj9SF.10065$MX1.518@fx43.iad:

Sorry GM. I had hope for you for a while but...they've decided to
go to back to the crack pipe they were hitting before the bailout.
Well, that stuff has a high recidivism rate.

The electric will not be gallons per mile as in the old hummer case.

So rethink your kink, dink.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/10/20 10:01 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:Wj9SF.10065$MX1.518@fx43.iad:

Sorry GM. I had hope for you for a while but...they've decided to
go to back to the crack pipe they were hitting before the bailout.
Well, that stuff has a high recidivism rate.

The electric will not be gallons per mile as in the old hummer case.

So rethink your kink, dink.

It's not just the fuel it's that when GM took the "Hummer" name and
started applying it to what were basically re-badged Silverados with a
body kit they became renowned for being overpriced and shit quality.
People couldn't get rid of them fast enough during Cash for Clunkers and
it wasn't just the fuel cost, they were falling apart.

The name "Hummer" doesn't have the cachet it once did (if it ever did),
like the Mustang has a renowned provenance, the civvy-"Hummer" H2 and H3
are the butt of jokes, at least about the few still in existence.

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:MKcSF.7854$aD6.5785@fx38.iad:

On 1/10/20 10:01 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:Wj9SF.10065$MX1.518@fx43.iad:

Sorry GM. I had hope for you for a while but...they've decided
to go to back to the crack pipe they were hitting before the
bailout. Well, that stuff has a high recidivism rate.

The electric will not be gallons per mile as in the old hummer
case.

So rethink your kink, dink.


It's not just the fuel it's that when GM took the "Hummer" name
and started applying it to what were basically re-badged
Silverados with a body kit they became renowned for being
overpriced and shit quality. People couldn't get rid of them fast
enough during Cash for Clunkers and it wasn't just the fuel cost,
they were falling apart.

The name "Hummer" doesn't have the cachet it once did (if it ever
did), like the Mustang has a renowned provenance, the
civvy-"Hummer" H2 and H3 are the butt of jokes, at least about the
few still in existence.

I always thought the H1 was the only real consumer hummer.

Being an electric move, I doubt they are looking to make it an off-
road performer, like Tesla's path.

They are trying to compete with soccer mom SUVs.

If battery tech gets a twofold or greater jump in capacity per
cubic foot and perhaps a boost in weight/physical density
reduction... maybe then we'll see 'performers'

Personally, I think a redeux of the perfect truck would be a nice
electric choice. The Chevy Luv. They could bring in all the new
tech folks have now with suspension, frame, and such. It could be
twice as good as it ever was even with a gas engine.

They instead went the Chevy Blazer direction. I really haven't had
much chance to look at them other than seeing the HUGE price for a
non-fullsize truck. Maybe an electric blazer!

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 12:23:23 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:35c91bac-d053-4bfe-bc1c-f335b03891e6@googlegroups.com:

No, you STUPID thread INVADING fucktard! This segment was
about a
city without cars.

Wow, that's a stunning lie, even for you, the guy who is wrong,
always wrong.



Read my post. I clearly spoke about a city without cars and you came
back barking bullshit about Hondas.

You are a stunningly stupid retard, and that is quite the achievement
for such a self retarded twit.

Thanks for demonstrating your dishonesty again, by completely editing
out what I responded to. Here it is, restored:

No, you STUPID thread INVADING fucktard! This segment was about a
city without cars.

The thread was about Honda and hybrids, stupid.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:52572d7c-5c2a-40cb-8c29-7be181f6f964@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 12:23:23 PM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:35c91bac-d053-4bfe-bc1c-f335b03891e6@googlegroups.com:

No, you STUPID thread INVADING fucktard! This segment was
about a
city without cars.

Wow, that's a stunning lie, even for you, the guy who is wrong,
always wrong.



Read my post. I clearly spoke about a city without cars and
you came
back barking bullshit about Hondas.

You are a stunningly stupid retard, and that is quite the
achievement
for such a self retarded twit.


Thanks for demonstrating your dishonesty again, by completely
editing out what I responded to. Here it is, restored:

No, you STUPID thread INVADING fucktard! This segment was
about a
city without cars.

The thread was about Honda and hybrids, stupid.

But MY post was NOT, and yet you still blindly barfed in with your
stupid, inane, pathetic stench, stupid.

Threads get segmented, you retared little Usenet twerp!

If you are too fucking stupid to read the post and speak on what
the POST speaks on, then you should stay the fuck OUT of that thread
segment.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 7:23:34 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:de95d196-1528-4464-8ce9-73d4bc7c488e@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 2:04:14 PM UTC-5, Whoey Louie
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 11:53:00 AM UTC-5, Rick C
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 10:21:12 AM UTC-5, Whoey
Louie wrote
:
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 6:11:46 PM UTC-5, Bill
Sloman wrote:

The problem is that we have to reduce carbon emissions
fast, and
to a rather low level - about half a ton of CO2 per person per
year.

And hybrids do exactly that. What is better? Someone
needs a new
car,
they buy a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid or there is no hybrid
choice, so they buy an ICE car, because an electric does
not fit their need
.
That is the environment we are in today. But you libs,
it's the ol
d
my way or the highway.

I guess that's why Tesla is selling every car they can make,
literall
y!

And Honda is having trouble? Honda sold 5.5 mil cars last
year, compar
ed
to a few hundred thousand at Tesla. Oh, and Honda actually
makes mone
y,
so there's that.....

And their growth rate over the last few years has been what
exactly? Tes
la has been growing like a weed on steroids.

It's easy to grow fast when you have the govt heavily subsidizing
what you produce and even then, you sell your product at a LOSS.
Go look at the long, long list of early auto companies that
failed.


Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

The above is factual. Ad hominem attack and failure to refute, noted.

Of course they haven't been focused on profits, they've been a
startup. They are just now transitioning into a more stable mode
where profits might happen. Even the former head of GM Bob Lutz
who was predicting their eminent failure has now said they are
looking good.


It is IMMINENT, you retarded fuck!

What is imminent? Again, with your cut, delete, paste methods,
no one can even tell what you're talking about much of the time,
like here.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

https://www.teslarati.com/?s=Bob+Lutz

Oh yeah, the stock is valued at more than GM and Fiat combined.


So weres the stock of Enron, World Comm, Tyco, etc.

Tesla is not pulling the stupid shit those companies did. You
really are one stupid fuck!

Plenty of other dot.com darlings that went kaput. How about Sun?
That's a crowning example.
They were one of the four horsemen of the new internet age.
Are they building workstations and servers today? Broadcast.com?
That one made Mark Cuban, like Elon Musk, a billionaire. Today it's defunct.

And BTW, we don't know there isn't fraud at Tesla either. We do know
that Musk lied about having financing for his proposed buyout and
the SEC hammered him, rich a settlement with him for boosting the
stock price by lying to investors.

How did they
turn out? They were total frauds,

Just like you!

there are an order of magnitude
more genius tech companies that while not frauds, were valued at
the moon and wound up worth nothing.

Oh boy... retard whooisfullofshit can iterate well known facts
about OTHER companies and the history of their tenure and demise.

So now you're no longer denying it's true.

You are the fraud, motherfucker.

They are outselling every BEV, hybrid and and plug-in hybrid
offered.
In just over two years they've sold more model 3s than Leafs on
the road over the last 10 years.

Whoopie fuckin doo, chump.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

They are selling model 3s fast
enough to be in the top 20 models sold in 2019, right behind
Toyota Corolla.

Kinda hard to say EVs don't fit the needs of car buyers
today.

It fits the needs of a small percent of the market. The folks
at The Simpsons had an episode about people like you. The
smug, no it alls, that just know what everyone else should do
and how superior they are. They were portrayed as running
around smelling their own farts.

You act like I've told you what to do. I haven't told anyone
what to do,

No, you're just here bemoaning the fact that Honda isn't doing
what YOU claim they should do. Go figure.

Honda will eventually release an all electric model. They are
currently waiting to see how the industry and regulatory segments
iron out their ripples.

FYI, Honda is selling electric vehicles, it's the Clarity electric,
stupid.

You really are one stupid fuck.

in fact, I've publicly said that I don't recommend an EV for
anyone at the moment.

Good for you, you retarded fuck.

Another example of your dishonesty or confusion. I did not make the
post that you're replying to above. I did not say that I don't recommend
an EV for anyone.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

Buy it if you really want one, but they
will only be getting better and unless you have to buy a car now,
keep what you have for a few more years.

I would say that he and the rest of us know more about product
evolution than you ever have or ever will.
Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

Another example of your dishonesty or confusion. I did not make the
post that you're trying to attribute to me.

Then we can all buy EVs and save the planet. lol


A hybrid is a step in the right direction, but doesn't
take us as
far as we have to go.

Fine. I'll buy an ICE car instead. Happy now?

No one cares what you do or say.

Of course not, but then I'm not the one that came here trying
to tell Honda what they should do, you did that.

As usual, you have your knickers in a knot. lol I've told no
one what t
hey should do.

You certainly implied it.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

I'm just pointing out the absurdity of Hachiago's statements and
the fact that his company will not do well if they aren't making
significant EVs in five years when nearly everyone else will
be... if they want to survive.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout is
about as retarded as it gets.

Another example of your dishonesty or confusion. I did not make the
post with the above statement that you're trying to attribute to me.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:e768bac6-0617-478f-939a-552d4010e961@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 7:23:34 PM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:de95d196-1528-4464-8ce9-73d4bc7c488e@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 2:04:14 PM UTC-5, Whoey Louie
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 11:53:00 AM UTC-5, Rick C
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 10:21:12 AM UTC-5, Whoey
Louie wrote
:
On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 6:11:46 PM UTC-5, Bill
Sloman wrote:

The problem is that we have to reduce carbon emissions
fast, and
to a rather low level - about half a ton of CO2 per person per
year.

And hybrids do exactly that. What is better? Someone
needs a new
car,
they buy a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid or there is no
hybrid choice, so they buy an ICE car, because an
electric does not fit their need
.
That is the environment we are in today. But you libs,
it's the ol
d
my way or the highway.

I guess that's why Tesla is selling every car they can
make, literall
y!

And Honda is having trouble? Honda sold 5.5 mil cars last
year, compar
ed
to a few hundred thousand at Tesla. Oh, and Honda actually
makes mone
y,
so there's that.....

And their growth rate over the last few years has been what
exactly? Tes
la has been growing like a weed on steroids.

It's easy to grow fast when you have the govt heavily
subsidizing what you produce and even then, you sell your
product at a LOSS. Go look at the long, long list of early auto
companies that failed.


Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout
is
about as retarded as it gets.

The above is factual. Ad hominem attack and failure to refute,
noted.




Of course they haven't been focused on profits, they've been a
startup. They are just now transitioning into a more stable
mode where profits might happen. Even the former head of GM
Bob Lutz who was predicting their eminent failure has now said
they are looking good.


It is IMMINENT, you retarded fuck!



What is imminent? Again, with your cut, delete, paste methods,
no one can even tell what you're talking about much of the time,
like here.




Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout
is
about as retarded as it gets.

https://www.teslarati.com/?s=Bob+Lutz

Oh yeah, the stock is valued at more than GM and Fiat
combined.


So weres the stock of Enron, World Comm, Tyco, etc.

Tesla is not pulling the stupid shit those companies did. You
really are one stupid fuck!

Plenty of other dot.com darlings that went kaput. How about Sun?
That's a crowning example.
They were one of the four horsemen of the new internet age.
Are they building workstations and servers today? Broadcast.com?
That one made Mark Cuban, like Elon Musk, a billionaire. Today
it's defunct.

And BTW, we don't know there isn't fraud at Tesla either. We do
know that Musk lied about having financing for his proposed buyout
and the SEC hammered him, rich a settlement with him for boosting
the stock price by lying to investors.







How did they
turn out? They were total frauds,

Just like you!

there are an order of magnitude
more genius tech companies that while not frauds, were valued
at the moon and wound up worth nothing.

Oh boy... retard whooisfullofshit can iterate well known facts
about OTHER companies and the history of their tenure and demise.

So now you're no longer denying it's true.



You are the fraud, motherfucker.

They are outselling every BEV, hybrid and and plug-in
hybrid offered.
In just over two years they've sold more model 3s than Leafs
on the road over the last 10 years.

Whoopie fuckin doo, chump.

Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout
is
about as retarded as it gets.

They are selling model 3s fast
enough to be in the top 20 models sold in 2019, right behind
Toyota Corolla.

Kinda hard to say EVs don't fit the needs of car buyers
today.

It fits the needs of a small percent of the market. The
folks at The Simpsons had an episode about people like you.
The smug, no it alls, that just know what everyone else
should do and how superior they are. They were portrayed as
running around smelling their own farts.

You act like I've told you what to do. I haven't told anyone
what to do,

No, you're just here bemoaning the fact that Honda isn't doing
what YOU claim they should do. Go figure.

Honda will eventually release an all electric model. They are
currently waiting to see how the industry and regulatory segments
iron out their ripples.


FYI, Honda is selling electric vehicles, it's the Clarity
electric, stupid.





You really are one stupid fuck.

in fact, I've publicly said that I don't recommend an EV for
anyone at the moment.

Good for you, you retarded fuck.

Another example of your dishonesty or confusion. I did not make
the post that you're replying to above. I did not say that I
don't recommend an EV for anyone.



Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout
is
about as retarded as it gets.

Buy it if you really want one, but they
will only be getting better and unless you have to buy a car
now, keep what you have for a few more years.

I would say that he and the rest of us know more about product
evolution than you ever have or ever will.
Your analysis of this and every one I have ever seen you spout
is
about as retarded as it gets.

Another example of your dishonesty or confusion. I did not make
the post that you're trying to attribute to me.

To call you a retard would be ad hominem. To call your behavior
retarded is not. You really have zero capacity to comprehend what
you read.

 

[bitrex]

On 1/11/20 12:21 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:MKcSF.7854$aD6.5785@fx38.iad:

On 1/10/20 10:01 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:Wj9SF.10065$MX1.518@fx43.iad:

Sorry GM. I had hope for you for a while but...they've decided
to go to back to the crack pipe they were hitting before the
bailout. Well, that stuff has a high recidivism rate.

The electric will not be gallons per mile as in the old hummer
case.

So rethink your kink, dink.


It's not just the fuel it's that when GM took the "Hummer" name
and started applying it to what were basically re-badged
Silverados with a body kit they became renowned for being
overpriced and shit quality. People couldn't get rid of them fast
enough during Cash for Clunkers and it wasn't just the fuel cost,
they were falling apart.

The name "Hummer" doesn't have the cachet it once did (if it ever
did), like the Mustang has a renowned provenance, the
civvy-"Hummer" H2 and H3 are the butt of jokes, at least about the
few still in existence.


I always thought the H1 was the only real consumer hummer.

Being an electric move, I doubt they are looking to make it an off-
road performer, like Tesla's path.

They are trying to compete with soccer mom SUVs.

A rather critical review of the H2:

<https://youtu.be/Uj2e_kqiN-Y?t=393>

A better opinion of the H3 which was based on the Chevy Colorado
platform. But this is an up-trim model with the V8 the base engine was a
straight-5. the V8 only got 1 mpg combined worse fuel economy, lol.
Reminds me of when GM replaced the Buick Roadmaster station wagon with a
Corvette engine it gained 100 hp and fuel economy actually went up a bit.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer_H3>

If battery tech gets a twofold or greater jump in capacity per
cubic foot and perhaps a boost in weight/physical density
reduction... maybe then we'll see 'performers'

Personally, I think a redeux of the perfect truck would be a nice
electric choice. The Chevy Luv. They could bring in all the new
tech folks have now with suspension, frame, and such. It could be
twice as good as it ever was even with a gas engine.

They instead went the Chevy Blazer direction. I really haven't had
much chance to look at them other than seeing the HUGE price for a
non-fullsize truck. Maybe an electric blazer!

an EV Blazer is a vehicle fleets and police departments might be
interested in, your utility van and interceptor can be the same car.
Fleet vehicles spend most of their time sitting but powered up.

I have an unconfirmed hypothesis that "military-looking" vehicles are
designed to appeal most heavily to people who never served, they are
going to be the armchair-general of their local mall parking lot

 

[bitrex]

On 1/13/20 12:08 AM, bitrex wrote:

The name "Hummer" doesn't have the cachet it once did (if it ever
did), like the Mustang has a renowned provenance, the
civvy-"Hummer" H2 and H3 are the butt of jokes, at least about the
few still in existence.


   I always thought the H1 was the only real consumer hummer.

   Being an electric move, I doubt they are looking to make it an off-
road performer, like Tesla's path.

   They are trying to compete with soccer mom SUVs.

A rather critical review of the H2:

https://youtu.be/Uj2e_kqiN-Y?t=393

A better opinion of the H3 which was based on the Chevy Colorado
platform. But this is an up-trim model with the V8 the base engine was a
straight-5. the V8 only got 1 mpg combined worse fuel economy, lol.
Reminds me of when GM replaced the Buick Roadmaster station wagon with a
Corvette engine it gained 100 hp and fuel economy actually went up a bit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer_H3

Correct link:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VMsiy-_19E>

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:0XSSF.35077$_R3.3187@fx36.iad:

I have an unconfirmed hypothesis that "military-looking" vehicles
are designed to appeal most heavily to people who never served,

It appeals to all. Their is no reason that a prior or current
serviceman or woman would not also find them attractive.

they are going to be the armchair-general of their local mall
parking lot

Reminds me of an Spring Valley Ca man who got tired of a raging
asshole with a hopped up car bouncing around the community and
cussing folks, and he came out of his yard and put a few in the guy
and killed him. Some old Navy dude (the shooter). Said he was
protecting the neighborhood. You probably remember the case. I
think it was like '98 or so.

 

[Rick C]

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 12:40:11 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:0XSSF.35077$_R3.3187@fx36.iad:

I have an unconfirmed hypothesis that "military-looking" vehicles
are designed to appeal most heavily to people who never served,

It appeals to all. Their is no reason that a prior or current
serviceman or woman would not also find them attractive.

they are going to be the armchair-general of their local mall
parking lot

Reminds me of an Spring Valley Ca man who got tired of a raging
asshole with a hopped up car bouncing around the community and
cussing folks, and he came out of his yard and put a few in the guy
and killed him. Some old Navy dude (the shooter). Said he was
protecting the neighborhood. You probably remember the case. I
think it was like '98 or so.

I looked it up and it was a bad situation. But the Navy guy got off pretty light for executing someone. I found one article that described the situation pretty well. There were numerous incidents that didn't get reported to the police and a few that were. It seems like people were very intimidated but still didn't involve the cops enough. Then a rather bad situation develops that makes the Navy guy very afraid and instead of calling the cops, he finds the guy and puts one between his eyes. I believe a total of 13 shots were fired (the judge explaining why it wasn't self defense). It was an execution.

Maybe the guy was a rabid dog that needed to be put down, but that's the job of the legal system. So the Navy guy went to prison for some 7 years or so.

Kinda off topic for the discussion about Honda EVs, no?

--

Rick C.

+-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e93afd12-fa55-4425-aaf0-371b8844f6f8@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 12:40:11 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:0XSSF.35077$_R3.3187@fx36.iad:

I have an unconfirmed hypothesis that "military-looking"
vehicles are designed to appeal most heavily to people who
never served,

It appeals to all. Their is no reason that a prior or current
serviceman or woman would not also find them attractive.

they are going to be the armchair-general of their local mall
parking lot

Reminds me of an Spring Valley Ca man who got tired of a raging
asshole with a hopped up car bouncing around the community and
cussing folks, and he came out of his yard and put a few in the
guy and killed him. Some old Navy dude (the shooter). Said he
was protecting the neighborhood. You probably remember the case.
I think it was like '98 or so.

I looked it up and it was a bad situation. But the Navy guy got
off pretty light for executing someone. I found one article that
described the situation pretty well. There were numerous
incidents that didn't get reported to the police and a few that
were. It seems like people were very intimidated but still didn't
involve the cops enough. Then a rather bad situation develops
that makes the Navy guy very afraid and instead of calling the
cops, he finds the guy and puts one between his eyes. I believe a
total of 13 shots were fired (the judge explaining why it wasn't
self defense). It was an execution.

Maybe the guy was a rabid dog that needed to be put down, but
that's the job of the legal system. So the Navy guy went to
prison for some 7 years or so.

Kinda off topic for the discussion about Honda EVs, no?

It was a remark regarding the "airchair general" crack by the
previous poster. Did you miss that?

And the guy got off light. He should have got the chair (I wish
that and gas were still around).