OT: Epstein: 'Conspiracy theorists' proved right again

[Whoey Louie]

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 1:48:58 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 12:03:37 AM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:03:33 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 2:45:31 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 1:59:24 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:434ae82e-585b-4d18-
8d92-9fda17149e3d@googlegroups.com:

It's too bad the Democrats picked an even more defective candidate,
so bad that she lost against the orange clown.

No. She didn't. I took the corrupted Electoral college to put the
lard assed criminal in office.

There you go again. There is nothing corrupted about the electoral college,
it worked just like it's worked for two centuries. You just don't like
the result.

Yes, I have never liked the idea that a handful of "key" states determine the Presidential election. It should be 1 man/woman, 1 vote like we do in all our other elections.

We are working to fix this. There is an effort called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact in which states commit to assigning all their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. Once enough states have signed to make it effective in deciding the Presidential election it will take effect.

It's not about Republican vs. Democrat or liberal vs. conservative. It's about letting the people choose our President.

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It's very much about liberals, because they want the high population blue states to determine the outcome and screw all the fly-over country. They win. A bunch of sore losers, who want to change the rules. Between favoring open borders and putting illegal aliens over Americans,proposing free health care for illegal aliens, and this, if you keep it up, we are headed for civil war.

You see, that's the problem. You want to elect a President by states choosing because that suits your political goals.

That's a lie. I didn't write the Constitution and come up with the
Electoral College. And it's never by states, but states rights do
play a roll. You libs are just mad because you lost, sore losers.



I want a popular vote because that is right. It has nothing to do with loosing. If I were a Republican

ROFL. That's the funniest thing you've posted yet!




I would still support an end to selecting a President by anything other than a choice by a majority. I don't give a damn about the politics. I want to do what is right.

There are numerous reasons for the origin of the electoral college. None of them are still valid.

Civil war? Lol. You are nearly alone in that idea. There are a few crackpots in this group who will support you, but that's about it. People revolt when they are stressed and suffering. Only a small minority in this country are really stressed or suffering.

You keep believing that. Go ahead, pick a Bernie or Warren of another
of the radical libs that want open borders and to give free healthcare
to illegal aliens. See what happens. When you lose, you libs will
probably start the civil war. Antifa is already there with the violence,
not conservatives.




That's why groups like the KKK and the various civilian militias are small and ineffective. People with these ideas are few and far between.

The fact that you even talk about civil war shows you are not far from cracked.

I will acknowledge the Democrats come up with some wild candidates for President.

Some? All of the two dozen are total radical, stupid, crazy loons,
with the exception of faltering Joe.


I haven't seen anyone I would want in office if there are other real choices. But the Republicans aren't much better. Jeeze, we are talking about the party of Ben Carson for cripes sake!

What is so wrong with Ben Carson? He;s black and a Republican?
Who's the racist now?

The only reason the Senate didn't go Democratic in the last election is because very few Republican seats were up for election. In 2020 it will be a different story. We will see if the entire tide swings the other way.

We'll see, with the radical left Democrats running, I would not place
any bets. Those people in fly-over country that you want to screw by
getting rid of the electoral college are voters, you know.

It's not great to swing wildly back and forth every 4 years. But you have to admit carrot top hasn't been doing very well as President. I wasn't enthusiastic about Bush, but at least he wasn't totally off the rails.

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[whit3rd]

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 6:10:13 AM UTC-7, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 7:48:38 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

In fact, you have zero clue as to why the Clinton's used their home
network's server to handle their emails. You also have no clue as to
any of the details of their home network.

That's not true, from the investigations we know the important details,
like that it was backed up at several sites around the country

No, that's a distortion/lie. The server data was purged on a regular basis,
there were no long-term backups. Later attempts to search
e-mail history found the server didn't retain that, so client machines
that sent/received the mail were searched (in some cases, subpoenaed).

Those other locations that had e-mails, weren't backups of the server. The
mail sender/receiver CLIENT machines, or OTHER servers might have had backups. Hilary
didn't control the sender or receiver machines, nor other servers around the internet.

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 8:21:45 AM UTC-7, Whoey Louie wrote:

And Hillary chose to disregard US law, disregard the US laws on record
preservation and create her own email server in her HOUSE!

An e-mail server is not illegal. Putting its hardware in her house, under
Secret Service protection, is sensible. She wasn't using it for her
professional correspondence, it was just collecting ads and spam
like everyone else's e-mail does.

But she didn't control what folk sent TO her, and a dozen or two (of thousands)
of messages had some content that came into question.
The question was answered by FBI investigators: no charges filed.

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 11:14:23 AM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:29:09 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:ac359a8b-a272-43f2-bd1d-e7c5626ff4e8@googlegroups.com:

So is a Sec of State or any other govt official being extremely
careless with classified information. Those were Comey's words,
not mine. And yet he gave her a pass, showing the sad state of
unequal justice in America.


You obviously have zero grasp of what the term 'criminality' means.


You have no grasp that the word "criminality" does not appear in the
statute under which Hillary should have been charged. All it requires
is negligence in handling classified material. Comey, not me, said that
Hillary was "extremely careless" in handling classified information.
Extremely careless is negligent.

No, if it were she would have been prosecuted.

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[Cursitor Doom]

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:22:15 -0700, Whoey Louie wrote:

> Attempt at diversion detected! Attempt at diversion deflected.

You'll get that and much else a *lot* with the type of morons you're
attempting to debate with.
Credit where it's due: you're quite indefatigable in the face of the
monumental obtuseness you're constantly faced with here.



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[Whoey Louie]

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 1:03:38 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 11:14:23 AM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 3:29:09 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:ac359a8b-a272-43f2-bd1d-e7c5626ff4e8@googlegroups.com:

So is a Sec of State or any other govt official being extremely
careless with classified information. Those were Comey's words,
not mine. And yet he gave her a pass, showing the sad state of
unequal justice in America.


You obviously have zero grasp of what the term 'criminality' means.


You have no grasp that the word "criminality" does not appear in the
statute under which Hillary should have been charged. All it requires
is negligence in handling classified material. Comey, not me, said that
Hillary was "extremely careless" in handling classified information.
Extremely careless is negligent.

No, if it were she would have been prosecuted.

Another big lib lie, and then you complain about Trump lying? They are
one and the same thing, fool. Hillary got a pass because she was juiced up
and Hillary. That poor Navy submariner, he went to prison because he
wasn't connected, juiced up or Hillary. But you know what? In the end
Hillary got her just desserts. That schmuck Comey got so much heat for
giving Hillary a pass that he decided to try to do something to save his
reputation. So, to try to fool people into thinking he was fair, he decided
to again ignore what was right, ignore the law, ignore procedure and he
went out of his way to blab that Hillary was again under FBI investigation
just a couple weeks before the election, when some emails showed up on that
Democrat perv Weiner's laptop. That's something, eh, how Hillary's emails
happened to wind up on a perv Democrat that was doing the Epstein bit.
So, Comey let it out, thinking that Hillary was sure to win anyway and that
by doing so, he could pretend that he was fair and balanced. How did that
work out?

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 7:52:04 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:8fb64fa2-6b6c-4f33-
b89d-00ae52906a64@googlegroups.com:

being backed up God knows where, at unsecure,
unapproved facilities.

They were not doing remote backups then, you fucking idiot.
All of her backups, if any to start with, were done locally.

But keep trying to make excuses.

Do you deny that Hillary's emails were on servers at schlock, half-assed
companies in NJ and Denver? That one of them had the server in the closet
of a bathroom in a loft? That they contained classified information and
that none of those facilities was secure, approved for holding classified
information, that the people there had no security clearances, etc?

You are an abject idiot. Your whore mother has no excuse for her
crime of failing to flush you, the moment the severely ass fucked
street slut shat you. You will have to take your retarded, petty
mumblings somewhere else, shithead.

Please try to get some help.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:badf7357-d331-4061-
a520-5b35c3a70584@googlegroups.com:

That poor Navy submariner, he went to prison because he
wasn't connected, juiced up or Hillary.

NO! You RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT. He went to jail for his actions.
It had NOTHING to do with ANY 'connections'.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:63eb8cee-fbf0-4a9c-
b9c7-e0be36b99af5@googlegroups.com:

Please try to get some help.

Then help. Post your address so I can come visit you and you can
help me even more then by discontinuing the waste of Oxygen you
consume.

I'll videograph the whole thing and show how I reduced some of the
world's hothouse gasses.

The shame is that you will keep fucking the world over even after.
Your stinking corpse will give off more greenhouse gasses that your
breathing did. You are just a Goddamned shame all the way around,
shithead.

 

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in news:qiuspe$ks$2@dont-
email.me:

Credit where it's due: you're quite indefatigable in the face of the
monumental obtuseness you're constantly faced with here.

That strupid shit was about as obtuse as it gets.

You are both abject idiots.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:a675b52c-5c71-4a5b-
8766-32139efbc326@googlegroups.com:

What is so wrong with Ben Carson? He;s black and a Republican?
Who's the racist now?

No. Aside from being a brain surgeon, the guy is pretty fucking
stupid. Race has nothing to do with it. More like lunacy.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:5f9a21bf-9ad1-4fc3-
8848-f658d015bf4c@googlegroups.com:

> Attempt at diversion detected! Attempt at diversion deflected.

Post that shows that you are a total retard made. Observation by all
that you are a political nonsense pussy boy noted.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:5f9a21bf-9ad1-4fc3-
8848-f658d015bf4c@googlegroups.com:

There were no breeches with the Navy submariner, he went to prison.

Again, idiot, he did not commit an act which has to do with breeches.

The very act of having the camera included phone in his possession in
that secured compartment was a violation. Even if the twit had taken
no picture at all. He went to prison for failing to follow the
security protocol. Also, there is a sharp difference between the UCMJ
and the department she was under. I do not expect you to understand.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:32:17 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 1:23:33 PM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 10:52:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 12:28:42 PM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:cdf88e02-4c07-4145-
aa53-c7ba60953a08@googlegroups.com:

That is a hell of a lot different than a sex
trafficker of a person in office colluding with a foreign (enemy)
entity to affect ANYTHING in our nation.

Hillary colluded with the Russians? Wow!



Nice try, putz boy. I made no reference to her. I referred to
Epstein and Trump, as if your wee wittle bwain is having processing
issues.

Epstein colluded with the Russians? Tell us more? Trump colluded?
After $35 mil and two years, Mueller concluded that there was no evidence
that Trump, anyone in the Trump campaign or any American colluded with
Russia.

A couple of members of the Trump election team have gone to prison for acting for Russian interests within notifying the people they should have done about what they were doing.

Sure, from years ago, before they had anything to do with Trump, Manafort
and Gates worked for pro-Soviet schmucks in Ukraine. Had nothing to do
with any Russian meddling in the election, which was the central allegation,
the whole purpose of the $35 mil, two year investigation. So, they found
those two failed to register as foreign agents. Not the first to do so
and typically all that happens is you file.

That's not the way the New Yorker put it.

Well there you have it! The oracle of all lib truth, the NY Yorker puts
it another way, so it must be so. Stupid lib.





Mueller concluded that the Trump team and the Russians hadn't colluded to influence the election - the Trump team were such a bunch of loose cannons that nobody even vaguely sane would include them in any conspiracy.

Hysterical that you say that now, when for two years all the lefties have
been so sure that Trump and his campaign did collude.

What makes you think that?

Because the libs have been yelling about it for the last two years?
Hello? Stupid lib.

Cite? Stupid alt-right people do confuse concerns about possible collusion with "yelling about" actual collusion, and Trader4 is remarkably stupid.

The evidence that the Russians helped Trump has always been pretty clear, but collusion is harder to prove, and this particular leftist (from your point of view) has always thought that Trump was too erratic to be somebody anybody would risk colluding with .

The Russians did influence the election, but strictly in their own interests, and the Trump team were avid to pick up and dirt that the Russians might might have leaked to them.

That part you have mostly right, except the Russians were not leaking to
Trump's campaign they were just leaking to the world.

There are specific e-mails within the Trump team that suggested that they thought otherwise.

Mueller didn't conclude that the Trump team hadn't done anything criminal, but did rule out explicit collusion - being dumb enough to be played by the Russians isn't collusion.

He did rule out anything criminal with regard to the election or election
meddling. That was his charter. It's just that the stupid, bitter
Democrats still won't accept it.

He did rule out collusion. The hush money paid to Stormy Daniels was "election meddling" and should have been reported as an election expense.

Oh, BS, that's pure nonsense. You know what the best defense to that BS is?
I'd say to the jury, OK, the prosecution says the Trump campaign was
supposed to treat this as a campaign expenditure, not personal. Suppose
the Trump campaign paid it, reported it as a campaign expense. Then we'd
be here in court with the Trump campaign charged with using campaign donations
for PERSONAL expenses. And then, they probably would have a case.

They wouldn't have been under any obligation to report it as a campaign expense. It was a personal expenditure that wouldn't have been paid if it couldn't have influenced the campaign, so they were still obliged to report it.

Stupid right-winger.

Stupid lib.

That has got a lot of publicity for obvious reasons. There seem to have been other improprieties going on.

The Democrats don't have to be either stupid or bitter to have hopes of nailing the crook, but they may have to wait until he loses the next election.

Yeah, dream on. And expect the same if a Democrat is elected in return.
Stupid lib.

Expect the same what?

The Republicans have been trying to get Democrats in court since Nixon and Spiro Agnew got nailed. Reagan didn't get prosecuted over Contragate, but Oliver North did time. Kenneth Starr spent years trying to get some kind of revenge, and failed.

History suggests that there are a lot more crooked Republicans than Democrats, or at a least a lot more clumsy and crooked Republicans who can't hide their tracks.

Trumps antics with his charitable foundation were clumsy and obvious enough to suggest Democratic prosecutors will have more luck than their Republican counterparts.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 3:42:11 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:22:15 -0700, Whoey Louie wrote:

Attempt at diversion detected! Attempt at diversion deflected.

You'll get that and much else a *lot* with the type of morons you're
attempting to debate with.
Credit where it's due: you're quite indefatigable in the face of the
monumental obtuseness you're constantly faced with here.

He not indefatigable. He's just too stupid to realise that he's peddling obvious nonsense, rather like Cursitor Doom and krw.

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[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 4:31:43 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:32:17 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 1:23:33 PM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 10:52:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 12:28:42 PM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux....@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:cdf88e02-4c07-4145-
aa53-c7ba60953a08@googlegroups.com:

That is a hell of a lot different than a sex
trafficker of a person in office colluding with a foreign (enemy)
entity to affect ANYTHING in our nation.

Hillary colluded with the Russians? Wow!



Nice try, putz boy. I made no reference to her. I referred to
Epstein and Trump, as if your wee wittle bwain is having processing
issues.

Epstein colluded with the Russians? Tell us more? Trump colluded?
After $35 mil and two years, Mueller concluded that there was no evidence
that Trump, anyone in the Trump campaign or any American colluded with
Russia.

A couple of members of the Trump election team have gone to prison for acting for Russian interests within notifying the people they should have done about what they were doing.

Sure, from years ago, before they had anything to do with Trump, Manafort
and Gates worked for pro-Soviet schmucks in Ukraine. Had nothing to do
with any Russian meddling in the election, which was the central allegation,
the whole purpose of the $35 mil, two year investigation. So, they found
those two failed to register as foreign agents. Not the first to do so
and typically all that happens is you file.

That's not the way the New Yorker put it.

Well there you have it! The oracle of all lib truth, the NY Yorker puts
it another way, so it must be so. Stupid lib.





Mueller concluded that the Trump team and the Russians hadn't colluded to influence the election - the Trump team were such a bunch of loose cannons that nobody even vaguely sane would include them in any conspiracy..

Hysterical that you say that now, when for two years all the lefties have
been so sure that Trump and his campaign did collude.

What makes you think that?

Because the libs have been yelling about it for the last two years?
Hello? Stupid lib.

Cite?

ROFL. Stupid lib. You libs have been howling about Trump colluding with
Russia since 2016.




Stupid alt-right people do confuse concerns about possible collusion with "yelling about" actual collusion, and Trader4 is remarkably stupid.

The evidence that the Russians helped Trump has always been pretty clear, but collusion is harder to prove, and this particular leftist (from your point of view) has always thought that Trump was too erratic to be somebody anybody would risk colluding with .

The Russians did influence the election, but strictly in their own interests, and the Trump team were avid to pick up and dirt that the Russians might might have leaked to them.

That part you have mostly right, except the Russians were not leaking to
Trump's campaign they were just leaking to the world.

There are specific e-mails within the Trump team that suggested that they thought otherwise.

Mueller didn't conclude that the Trump team hadn't done anything criminal, but did rule out explicit collusion - being dumb enough to be played by the Russians isn't collusion.

He did rule out anything criminal with regard to the election or election
meddling. That was his charter. It's just that the stupid, bitter
Democrats still won't accept it.

He did rule out collusion. The hush money paid to Stormy Daniels was "election meddling" and should have been reported as an election expense.

Oh, BS, that's pure nonsense. You know what the best defense to that BS is?
I'd say to the jury, OK, the prosecution says the Trump campaign was
supposed to treat this as a campaign expenditure, not personal. Suppose
the Trump campaign paid it, reported it as a campaign expense. Then we'd
be here in court with the Trump campaign charged with using campaign donations
for PERSONAL expenses. And then, they probably would have a case.

They wouldn't have been under any obligation to report it as a campaign expense. It was a personal expenditure that wouldn't have been paid if it couldn't have influenced the campaign,

BS. Trump had plenty of other motives to try to buy silence. Like it
being a disaster to his marriage, Melania, his family and the Trump brand.
So, smart guy, where is the federal form to figure out how to apportion
the $100K between those categories and the campaign.

And you ignored the central tenent here, which is they claim it had to be
treated as a campaign donation. Yet if Trump had used campaign donations
to pay Stormy, why then you libs would be charging him with the crime of
using campaign funds for a PERSONAL expenditure.

And again, why all this focus on the US, when you don't even live here?
I know, big penis envy, you wish Australia could be big and powerful like
the USA.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:04:11 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c48847d7-e4d1-4a59-849a-6973074d2de4@googlegroups.com:

And again, why all this focus on the US, when you don't even live
here? I know, big penis envy, you wish Australia could be big and
powerful like the USA.


Events within the USA affects the entire globe, you retarded piece of
shit.

The problem is Bill is obsessed with the US. I don't see him bitching
about what Putin just did, about the freedom riots in China, etc.
It must be big penis envy, he knows the US is the biggest and best.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:02:40 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c48847d7-e4d1-4a59-849a-6973074d2de4@googlegroups.com:

ROFL. Stupid lib. You libs have been howling about Trump
colluding with Russia since 2016.



You are an idiot. He did collude.

Thanks for proving my point.

Wrong, always wrong.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c48847d7-e4d1-4a59-849a-6973074d2de4@googlegroups.com:

And again, why all this focus on the US, when you don't even live
here? I know, big penis envy, you wish Australia could be big and
powerful like the USA.

Events within the USA affects the entire globe, you retarded piece of
shit.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c48847d7-e4d1-4a59-849a-6973074d2de4@googlegroups.com:

ROFL. Stupid lib. You libs have been howling about Trump
colluding with Russia since 2016.

You are an idiot. He did collude. His own remarks are tantamount to
exactly that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQb2S4DIcNc

Take of the horse blinders, dipshit.