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On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward the front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have their exhaust pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
Cursitor Doom wrote...
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these
vehicles becomes more widespread, you're going to see more
and more children and elderly people killed by them.
Most people fail to recognize that IC cars are just as quiet,
when they're coasting or cruising, as EV cars. But in both
cases there is the same thing to hear: the tire noise. But
my point was about a car's rapid acceleration phase, which is
what a car approaching an intersection should NOT be doing.
On 27/04/2019 12:55 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:25:36 +0800, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
With all the nav gear onboard I reckon an automatic warning would be a
snap to implement for those situations.
Care to expand on that?
As I imagine you would be aware of the various lidar systems used in
many cars that give a 360deg surveillance of the surroundings, that
information being used for many things including the detection of
animate beings. So to take that information and sound the horn if such
is detected in range according to speed etc shouldn't be too much of a
task for the modern car computer.
On 27/04/2019 12:55 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:25:36 +0800, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
With all the nav gear onboard I reckon an automatic warning would be a
snap to implement for those situations.
Care to expand on that?
As I imagine you would be aware of the various lidar systems used in
many cars that give a 360deg surveillance of the surroundings, that
information being used for many things including the detection of
animate beings. So to take that information and sound the horn if such
is detected in range according to speed etc shouldn't be too much of a
task for the modern car computer.
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:25:36 +0800, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
With all the nav gear onboard I reckon an automatic warning would be a
snap to implement for those situations.
Care to expand on that?
As I imagine you would be aware of the various lidar systems used inOn Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:25:36 +0800, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
With all the nav gear onboard I reckon an automatic warning would be a
snap to implement for those situations.
Care to expand on that?
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
I can see a time coming when all electric vehicles will be mandated to
emit warning sounds whenever they're in built-up areas. Probably some
annoying, polyphonic beeping noise at 99dB. And the driver will just have
to put up with it.
I don't think he's owned a car in the last decade years he don't
know how they work nowadays.
Or at least not one made in the last decade.
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward the front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have their exhaust pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
I can see a time coming when all electric vehicles will be mandated to
emit warning sounds whenever they're in built-up areas. Probably some
annoying, polyphonic beeping noise at 99dB. And the driver will just have
to put up with it.
lol
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.de...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward the front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have their exhaust pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
Please. Maybe they don't have Harleys where you are. You can easily hear
a Harley coming. And it's probably not true that most noise goes to the
rear either, when you consider a full 360 sound field.
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.de...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward the front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have their exhaust pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
Please. Maybe they don't have Harleys where you are. You can easily hear
a Harley coming. And it's probably not true that most noise goes to the
rear either, when you consider a full 360 sound field.
On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 8:05:29 AM UTC-4, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.de...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward the front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have their exhaust pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
Please. Maybe they don't have Harleys where you are. You can easily hear
a Harley coming. And it's probably not true that most noise goes to the
rear either, when you consider a full 360 sound field.
I can't believe anyone is actually suggesting the noise a Harley makes is anything other than an ego boost. If the noise is really needed to warn everyone a Harley is approaching I suggest they are too dangerous to be on the road.
On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 1:12:06 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.de...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 8:05:29 AM UTC-4, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 8:14:22 PM UTC-4, gnuarm.de...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 14:40:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:
I can relate a serious advantage: it's a hell of a lot of fun to drive,
especially as an urban commuter. Mine must have a 0 to 30 mph time of
a second, it seems like that anyway. Instant acceleration, and part of
the fun is the quiet, just a cool low-level whirrrr, frequency going up
with speed. Dunno if it's coming from the electric motor,
or inverter, but it's awesome. Automatic follow-the-car- in-front
features work nicely as well, also very quiet.
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and like
to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for
safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward the front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have their exhaust pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
Please. Maybe they don't have Harleys where you are. You can easily hear
a Harley coming. And it's probably not true that most noise goes to the
rear either, when you consider a full 360 sound field.
I can't believe anyone is actually suggesting the noise a Harley makes is anything other than an ego boost. If the noise is really needed to warn everyone a Harley is approaching I suggest they are too dangerous to be on the road.
Well, that's stupid. No one suggested that they "need" the noise to warn,
but only that the noise makes it more likely that motorists will know they
are there and not kill them. Apparently you're not aware of all the fatal
accidents where cars just pull out in front of a motorcycle, or turn in
front of them, etc. It's a very real and serious problem. For whatever
reason, MCs do not register with a lot of drivers. Where it's unlikely
they would turn in front of a car, somehow a bike just doesn't register
the same way with some people.
On 4/25/19 1:09 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Far too quiet. You wait and see. When the adoption of these vehicles
becomes more widespread, you're going to see more and more children and
elderly people killed by them.
I immediately noticed the difference when I swapped motorbikes
temporarily from a Harley-Davidson to a BMW water-cooled job. On the
Beamer, I had pedestrians stepping out in front of me just yards away
when I was going at speed - terrifying. That *never* happened with the
Harleys. "Loud pipes save lives" is a long-standing saying among
motorcyclists and it's so true.
BS. Then by the same token, sirens on emergency vehicles don't do
anything either.
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're attention-seekers and
like to make people listen to their vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a
thing for safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward the
front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have their exhaust
pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
on high performance engines the intake can make a lot of noise
He is an idiot. The sound pressure level on some fire truck's mainOn Sat, 27 Apr 2019 05:03:16 -0700, trader4 wrote:
BS. Then by the same token, sirens on emergency vehicles don't
do anything either.
The Bit-troll seems to be unaware that the speed of sound is a lot
faster than any motorcycle!
It isn't even about bikes. It is simpler than that. The clap ofOn Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:22:39 -0700, Lasse Langwadt Christensen
wrote:
motorcyclists have loud pipes because they're
attention-seekers and like to make people listen to their
vroom-vrooming it doesn't do a thing for safety.
On top of that most of the noise goes out the rear, not toward
the front. Maybe they should mandate motorcycles should have
their exhaust pointing to the front... I'm just sayin'...
So say a couple of trolls who've *obviously* never ridden a
motorcycle in their entire lives.
on high performance engines the intake can make a lot of noise