OT: Bush Thugs Rough Up Grieving Mother of KIA

On Monday 27 September 2004 02:01 pm, Rolavine did deign to grace us with
the following:

From: John Larkin

On Friday 24 September 2004 03:27 pm, John Larkin did deign to grace us
with the following:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:28:16 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:


Can anybody in the country finish this sentence:

The Goal of the American Mission in Iraq is to:

Establish a Turkish-like secular democracy.

Has anybody asked the folks in Iraq if that's what they want?


The only way to ask is to have an election.

Anyone know where I can find a ballot for the Iraqi election on the web,
I've looked and can't. The election is scheduled for Dec or Jan, where is
the ballot?

Um, isn't that allegedly supposed to happen in Iraq?

Thanks,
Rich
 
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:13:36 +0100, Paul Burridge
<pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk> wrote:



It's not good enough for a so-called "leader" to exhibit such
tendencies. People are calling on him to resign or at least
apologise(!) If you or I had killed a bunch of people, with or without
good reason, I think we'd be in for a very substantial jail term...

Every decision that a national leader makes kills, or doesn't kill,
thousands of people: health care; police funding; speed limits;
smoking policy; diesel fumes; all kinds of stuff.

Mao is estimated to have killed 30-50 million in his "great leap
forward" and he's still a national hero. Deng was reportedly informed
that a certain policy might kill a million people, and he reportedly
replied "A million? That's not so many."

John
 
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:03:41 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:


There is plenty of time for Kerry to attain the double digit lead he
deserves once people get past the cartoon presentation and dirty tricks
of that Texas mob and start thinking like mature, reasoning, and
responsible adults.
Is that why he just painted himself orange?

Did you see that map of the states that carried Bush in 2000?
It's all cowboys and hillbillies. No wonder the country's going
down the toilet.
Did you see the map of the states he's ahead in this time? Nearly all
of them.

John
 
On Monday 27 September 2004 05:05 pm, Tom Seim did deign to grace us with
the following:

Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote in message
news:<o4B5d.6680$Ym1.3746@trnddc03>...
On Saturday 25 September 2004 10:38 pm, Tom Seim did deign to grace us
with the following:

Fred is definitely right on this one (disregarding the "recklessness"
part). We have to, successfully, finish this. The consequences to do
otherwise are dire.

Define "Success".

Thank you.
Rich

Self governance.
Self protection.
Self sufficient.
Then stop killing them.
 
Don Pearce wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:33:58 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:01:21 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



A recently completed *scientific* survey by the The American Jewish
Committee results in Kerry:69, Bush:24 MoE +/-3% on the "who would you
vote for right now" question. These are *very* good results and
illustrate that *INFORMED* people give Kerry overwhelming support:
http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PubSurveys.asp?did=1339

There is plenty of time for Kerry to attain the double digit lead he
deserves once people get past the cartoon presentation and dirty tricks
of that Texas mob and start thinking like mature, reasoning, and
responsible adults.


You assert that the Jewish population of USA is *INFORMED*.

Yes they are- and this is supported by more scientific polls confirming
their over representation as voters and their more detailed knowledge of
events in the Middle East.



I presume
there is a corollary that the rest of the population, that doesn't
necessary share the Kerry preference is, by definition *UNINFORMED*?

No- your presumption is ridiculous. The UNINFORMED are a subset of
people opposed to Kerry which includes UNINFORMED, AMERICAN
IMPERIALISTS, and RECKLESSLY EXPLOITIVE BUSINESS INTERESTS among others.


But suppose those Jews polled were uninformed (and you have no way of
knowing how informed they were), and favour Kerry because they are
uninformed.
Absolutely untrue! The data does exist to quantify, albeit with a
certain amount of subjectivity and therefore bias as to deciding on a
criterion for "uninformed", the Bayesian conditionals of unin-/in-formed
given support for one candidate or the other. But this type of survey
would be performed by a campaign organization and not a polling activity
with the objective of producing a highly accurate measurement election
outcome.

After all, there must be both informed and uninformed people on both
sides of the argument, and to demonise the opposition the way you do
here does you no credit as a supposedly informed reporter.
You seem to be too ignorant of the conventional techniques used to
ensure an UNBIASED scientific survey to be worth anyone's time. You are
a troll.
 
On 27 Sep 2004 23:49:38 -0700, "Naimesh Thakkar"
<naimesh.thakkar@gmail.com> wrote:

Pls. suggest the replacement for LM129(obsolete)

have seen LM329 but it doesnt support the full temprature range.
Rgds,
LT1034BM, just ignore the 1V2 reference that is included. (TO92 would
require pin changes, but TO46 - for Mil - is the same.)

....and of course its 7V, not 6V9.

RL
 
Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...

What's contrary to the intent of the founding fathers

[about Cat Stevens getting rousted]
Fifteen bonus points to Rich for not only not feeding the troll,
but for putting out food that it doesn't like! Good Boy!!! :)
 
Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...

How about a universe of disembodied energy beings, like those light
balls in Star Trek & stuff, that move around by modulating their own
magnetic fields?
Oops!

Note to self: warn the disembodied energy beings before operating
degaussing coil.

--
Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com>
 
"Paul Burridge" <pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk> wrote in message
news:prrjl05jke9esnt971d9g9bjrj8p9am5hr@4ax.com...
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:40:36 -0700, "john jardine"
john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

Steady on, Paul old chap. We are British after all!.
We both know there's a truly nasty but well suppressed violent streak,
lurking in the depths of our national pyche.

It's not good enough for a so-called "leader" to exhibit such
tendencies. People are calling on him to resign or at least
apologise(!) If you or I had killed a bunch of people, with or without
good reason, I think we'd be in for a very substantial jail term...
[cp]
He's an able politician in the classical sense but has the unusual benefit
of a high IQ. An IQ sufficient to manipulate public opinion to benefit his
own (not party) agenda. Witness the working population being stroked by
ASBO's, tougher immigration controls and a small war against some religious
'ragheads' and the chattering classes being stroked by personal choice and
low taxes.
He won't be apologising or resigning, yet he'll be the leader after the next
election.
What I can't really figure, is his need for a religion. It seems he's just
converted to Catholicism. This worries me.
regards
john
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:39:21 +0200, "Leroy Tanner"
<ikeepthespiritalive@freenet.de> wrote:

Hello,

The reason why this cannot be realized on a single FPGA is the fact that we
disscussed just the input channels, so far. There is a great amount of
output, too, so I cannot use all of the FPGA's highspeed I/Os (i.e.
RocketIOs) just for the incoming data. In reference to a maximum amount of
20 RocketIOs on the largest Virtex-II Pro I assume that I will only use 4
RocketIOs per FPGA for the purpose of handling the complete 30 Gbit/s. So
that means I must run approximately four FPGAs in parallel. Do you see any
other alternatives?
This would be so much easier if you told us what you really want to
do.



When I was at Agilent, we had a design that generated and processed
OC768 signals. Each (Virtex-2 6000) FPGA had 40Gb/s input and 40Gb/s
output. Most of that was done using internal 256 bit buses at either
155.52MHz or 200MHz (depending on where it was in the pipeline). I
think it used HSTL or maybe SSTL levels. There were some narrower,
faster (622Mb/s?) LVDS buses between some parts.
That's 80Gb/s total, per FPGA, without using high speed SERDES
interfaces, on parts that are two generations old.

Regards,
Allan
 
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> says...

I once went round and round with an examiner who wouldn't allow one of
my claims. I finally wrote back "You're just to stupid to
understand."

He allowed the claim ;-)
<sarcasm> Great. Just fscking great. Now Aylward will think
that his favorite debating technique (saying that everyone is
too stupid to understand) is effective... </ sarcasm>



("To stupid" or "too stupid?")
 
"Yannick" <yannick_de_wit@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:cc50d220.0409281501.54d55f5c@posting.google.com...
Better don't wait at all.
I tried this almost 10 years ago and failed due to the little light
coming back. It was rather frustrating to see how little came back
from a white paper in 20cm distance. The ultimate surface was not
meant to be white and perhaps a bit farther away than 20cm.

Rene

but it has to be possible... i found range meters wich could detect
distances to 5km with 1cm accuracy , i am wondering how they do
that...

Yannick
i think tank laser range finders use single pulse TDR with about 20 watts of
pulsed laser power, judging from some surplus stuff i seen for sale at
display electronics, were using about 5mw, thats a big diference.

Colin =^.^=
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <qskjl09k3pmm08joe3uhmavrutbdijobb5@
4ax.com>) about 'Patents, Prior Art, Publication and Usenet.', on Tue,
28 Sep 2004:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:44:04 +0100, John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contra
spam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <niejl0p7n9c9bsl6702gd81nqqdf24jss5@
4ax.com>) about 'Patents, Prior Art, Publication and Usenet.', on Tue,
28 Sep 2004:

This was around 1980. When did Einstein die ?:)

She is still alive. (;-)

You mean the *bagel* ?:)
I don't know that I've ever met a female bagel.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
On 27 Sep 2004 23:49:38 -0700, "Naimesh Thakkar"
<naimesh.thakkar@gmail.com> wrote:

Pls. suggest the replacement for LM129(obsolete)

have seen LM329 but it doesnt support the full temprature range.
Rgds,
I see the same packaging boondoggle with any LT part, except for the
heated references, which are still flogged in TO5 and TO46 variants.

RL
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Steve Sands
<hybridyne2000@yahoo.com> wrote (in <4c9fff45.0409281527.59031c9e@postin
g.google.com>) about 'Labour Party Conference Report', on Tue, 28 Sep
2004:
You must be the dread Bloggs of the U.K. Nice to see that the U.S. does
not have a monopoly on whackos.
That's an insult to Bloggs, who at least knows a lot of electronics.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that john jardine
<john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote (in <cjcu95$a3d$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk
) about 'Labour Party Conference Report', on Wed, 29 Sep 2004:

It seems he's just
converted to Catholicism. This worries me.
After his fifth term as PM, he wants to have a go for Pope. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
john jardine wrote:

"Paul Burridge" <pb@notthisbit.osiris1.co.uk> wrote in message
news:td1jl0t868i7rus1n15lhbq2nt4greufq7@4ax.com...

Sick of all the American politics on this group? Here's an
alternative...


[clip]

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.


Steady on, Paul old chap. We are British after all!.
We both know there's a truly nasty but well suppressed violent streak,
lurking in the depths of our national pyche.
Best not to speak of these things, or we will all be unmasked.
(Ever see the film "The Forbidden planet"?.)
regards
john


Here richly, with ridiculous display,
The Politician's corpse was laid away.
While all of his acquaintance sneered and slanged
I wept: for I had longed to see him hanged.

Hilaire Belloc

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:ci3yO2ARXgWBFwu4@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <qskjl09k3pmm08joe3uhmavrutbdijobb5@
4ax.com>) about 'Patents, Prior Art, Publication and Usenet.', on Tue,
28 Sep 2004:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:44:04 +0100, John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contra
spam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <niejl0p7n9c9bsl6702gd81nqqdf24jss5@
4ax.com>) about 'Patents, Prior Art, Publication and Usenet.', on Tue,
28 Sep 2004:

This was around 1980. When did Einstein die ?:)

She is still alive. (;-)

You mean the *bagel* ?:)

I don't know that I've ever met a female bagel.

You would know if you did, they have a hole in the middle. :)})
 
"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@neopax.com> wrote in message
news:2rugocF1dm9hsU1@uni-berlin.de...

Here richly, with ridiculous display,
The Politician's corpse was laid away.
While all of his acquaintance sneered and slanged
I wept: for I had longed to see him hanged.

Hilaire Belloc

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
That's beautiful that. Thanks. I've saved it to memorise.
After 30 years of denial, it may even start me off reading again.
regards
john
 
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 01:43:23 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

See the new political coalition of the top scientists and engineers in
America- more *INFORMED* scientists and engineers to include many highly
placed former scientific advisors who are in the best position to fully
comprehend the damage the Bush Administration has done and will do to
the high technology and research infrastructure of this country:

http://scientistsandengineersforchange.org/index.php

An Open Letter to the American People

June 21, 2004

Presidential elections present us with choices about our nation's
future. We support John Kerry for President and urge you to join us.

The prosperity, health, environment, and security of Americans depend on
Presidential leadership to sustain our vibrant science and technology;
to encourage education at home and attract talented scientists and
engineers from abroad; and to nurture a business environment that
transforms new knowledge into new opportunities for creating quality
jobs and reaching shared goals.

President Bush and his administration are compromising our future on
each of these counts. By reducing funding for scientific research, they
are undermining the foundation of America's future. By setting
unwarranted restrictions on stem cell research, they are impeding
medical advances. By employing inappropriate immigration practices, they
are turning critical scientific talent away from our shores. And by
ignoring scientific consensus on critical issues such as global warming,
they are threatening the earth's future. Unlike previous
administrations, Republican and Democratic alike, the Bush
administration has ignored unbiased scientific advice in the
policy-making that is so important to our collective welfare.

John Kerry will change all this. He will support strong investments in
science and technology as he restores fiscal responsibility. He will
stimulate the development and deployment of technologies to meet our
economic, energy, environmental, health, and security needs. He will
recreate an America that provides opportunity to all at home or abroad
who can help us make progress together.

John Kerry will restore science to its appropriate place in government
and bring it back into the White House. He is the clear choice for
America's next President.

Signed,
Peter Agre Chemistry 2003 David H. Hubel Medicine 1981
Sidney Altman Chemistry 1989 Louis Ignarro Medicine 1998
Philip W. Anderson Physics 1977 Eric R. Kandel Medicine 2000
David Baltimore Medicine 1975 Walter Kohn Chemistry 1998
Baruj Benacerraf Medicine 1980 Arthur Kornberg Medicine 1959
Paul Berg Chemistry 1980 Leon M. Lederman Physics 1988
Hans A. Bethe Physics 1967 Tsung-Dao Lee Physics 1957
Michael Bishop Medicine 1989 David M. Lee Physics 1996
Gunter Blobel Medicine 1999 William N. Lipscomb Chemistry 1976
N. Bloembergen Physics 1981 Roderick MacKinnon Chemistry 2003
James W. Cronin Physics 1980 Mario J. Molina Chemistry 1995
Johann Diesenhofer Chemistry 1988 Joseph E. Murray Medicine 1990
John B. Fenn Chemistry 2002 Douglas D. Osheroff Physics 1996
Val Fitch Physics 1980 George Palade Medicine 1974
Jerome I. Friedman Physics 1990 Arno Penzias Physics 1978
Walter Gilbert Chemistry 1980 Martin L. Perl Physics 1995
Alfred G. Gilman Medicine 1994 Norman F. Ramsey Physics 1989
Donald A. Glaser Physics 1960 Burton Richter Physics 1976
Sheldon L. Glashow Physics 1979 Joseph H. Taylor Jr. Physics 1993
Joseph Goldstein Medicine 1985 E. Donnall Thomas Medicine 1990
Roger Guillemin Medicine 1977 Charles H. Townes Physics 1964
Dudley Herschbach Chemistry 1986 Harold Varmus Medicine 1989
Roald Hoffmann Chemistry 1981 Eric Wieschaus Medicine 1995
H. Robert Horvitz Medicine 2002 Robert W. Wilson Physics 1978

The views expressed in this letter represent those of the signers acting
as individual citizens. They do not necessarily represent the views of
the institutions with which they are affiliated. The Medicine award is
for "Physiology or Medicine."

That still doesn't explain why he painted himself orange.

John
 

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