OT: Announcement

[R. Steve Walz]

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

In <418B3FEF.17CF@armory.com>, on 11/05/04 at 08:48 AM,
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> said:
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Nazi's are Rightists, like Republicans, YOU go read history!

Steve,

You come flying in here this AM with twenty posts spouting all kinds of
misinformation and that is okay.
-----------------

Nope, bullshit, I'm informing, YOU'RE disinforming.

Everyone seems to want to publicly embarass
themselves in this group, why would you be any different.
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You're a contentless posturer.
{the rest of your posture deleted]

I am all for free speech, and the use of the word does not offend me, but what
does offend me is the selective political correctness we suffer from, for if I
was to constantly throw out the word 'nigger' many would be up in arms. Would
they be justified?
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Yes. Race is not a choice, socio-economic political crimes are.

I don't know, but frankly, if there is going to be a
reasonable dialog, there might ought to be some rules, and if its considered
wrong to call someone a nigger, then perhaps its wrong to call someone a
nazi. Fair is fair.
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Nope. Bullshit. You don't like being called what you are, therefore
you liken it to being called a nigger, which is disinforming and
disingenuous and dishonest.

Before you regurgitate venom all over the list because of this post, just stop
and think about maybe keeping it on an even keel and see if you can voice an
opinion without attaching racist, bigoted comments to it?
-------------------------

And NOW you're trying to UTILIZE your phony argument.
Calling lying criminals like you a lying criminal is not in any way"
bigoted".

Just thought it might add an air of civility and class to the group........
g

John
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For that to happen you'd have to be tortured to death here horribly.

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:01:14 -0700, uvcceet wrote:

In <418B3FEF.17CF@armory.com>, on 11/05/04 at 08:48 AM,
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> said:
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Nazi's are Rightists, like Republicans, YOU go read history!


Steve,

You come flying in here this AM with twenty posts spouting all kinds of
misinformation and that is okay. Everyone seems to want to publicly embarass
themselves in this group, why would you be any different.

I realize you won't change your mind, and you will probably respond with some
really mean spirited comments, but I will take my turn on the soap box and ask
if it might be possible for all of us, not just you, but all of us, to knock
off the comments that have to include the accusation that someone is a Nazi?

I am all for free speech, and the use of the word does not offend me, but what
does offend me is the selective political correctness we suffer from, for if I
was to constantly throw out the word 'nigger' many would be up in arms. Would
they be justified? I don't know, but frankly, if there is going to be a
reasonable dialog, there might ought to be some rules, and if its considered
wrong to call someone a nigger, then perhaps its wrong to call someone a
nazi. Fair is fair.

I'd think that that would depend on if the recipient of the comment
actually is a nigger, or nazi.

Then again, I use "nigger" in the pure form, which isn't really
determined by skin color, but by behavior and attitude.

But that's apparently far too advanced a concept for "the sheeple"
to grasp.

Thanks,
Rich
---------------

No, that's a delusional argument only used by guilt-ridden crackers
trying to defend their favorite automatic response to being
contradicted.

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:26:44 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:01:14 -0700, uvcceet wrote:

In <418B3FEF.17CF@armory.com>, on 11/05/04 at 08:48 AM,
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> said:
--------------
Nazi's are Rightists, like Republicans, YOU go read history!


Steve,

You come flying in here this AM with twenty posts spouting all kinds of
misinformation and that is okay. Everyone seems to want to publicly embarass
themselves in this group, why would you be any different.

I realize you won't change your mind, and you will probably respond with some
really mean spirited comments, but I will take my turn on the soap box and ask
if it might be possible for all of us, not just you, but all of us, to knock
off the comments that have to include the accusation that someone is a Nazi?

I am all for free speech, and the use of the word does not offend me, but what
does offend me is the selective political correctness we suffer from, for if I
was to constantly throw out the word 'nigger' many would be up in arms. Would
they be justified? I don't know, but frankly, if there is going to be a
reasonable dialog, there might ought to be some rules, and if its considered
wrong to call someone a nigger, then perhaps its wrong to call someone a
nazi. Fair is fair.

I'd think that that would depend on if the recipient of the comment
actually is a nigger, or nazi.

Then again, I use "nigger" in the pure form, which isn't really
determined by skin color, but by behavior and attitude.

But that's apparently far too advanced a concept for "the sheeple"
to grasp.

Thanks,
Rich
---------------
No, that's a delusional argument only used by guilt-ridden crackers
trying to defend their favorite automatic response to being
contradicted.

Oh, yawn.
Rich

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\" wrote:
[...snip usual moronic garbage...]

plonk...yawn or maybe yawn....plonk

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 09:56:38 -0700, uvcceet wrote:

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:
Nope, bullshit, I'm informing, YOU'RE disinforming.

You aren't informing anyone of anything, other than you know how to swear a
lot, and make childish comments. You will never live long enough to put forth
a rational argument that Republicans are like Nazis. You are just a sad,
tired, broken little man who has no job, no life, no loved ones, and beyond
usenet, no life.

Interesting things you say to yourself.

;^j
Rich

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:41:37 +0000, Fred Bloggs wrote:

Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\" wrote:
[...snip usual moronic garbage...]

plonk...yawn or maybe yawn....plonk

Geez Watson, now you've done it. You've been bad and now Fred has
to punish you.

;^j
Rich

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Rich The Philosophizer" <null@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2004.11.06.19.37.53.497142@neodruid.org...

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:41:37 +0000, Fred Bloggs wrote:



Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\" wrote:
[...snip usual moronic garbage...]

plonk...yawn or maybe yawn....plonk

Geez Watson, now you've done it. You've been bad and now Fred has
to punish you.

;^j
Rich

Oh, him? Yeah... <hangs head in shame...> sorry...

 

[Dennis M. O'Connor]

"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote ...

People attacking bigots can never be bigots.

This is so obviously not true,
only an idiot or a troll would say it.
--
Dennis M. O'Connor dmoc@primenet.com

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Blair P. Houghton" <b@p.h> wrote in message
news:a0Ehd.3738011$ic1.375805@news.easynews.com...

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
My oldest daughter is a candidate (and most likely winner) for

Why? Did you design the electronic voting machines?

--Blair
"We're going to have to make them
with user-accessible debuggers."

User accessible debuggers are already in Mozilla. It's called Bugzilla.
http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar
01s04.html
<<
Linus was treating his users as co-developers in the most effective
possible way:

7. Release early. Release often. And listen to your customers.

Linus's innovation wasn't so much in doing quick-turnaround releases
incorporating lots of user feedback (something like this had been
Unix-world tradition for a long time), but in scaling it up to a level
of intensity that matched the complexity of what he was developing. In
those early times (around 1991) it wasn't unknown for him to release a
new kernel more than once a day! Because he cultivated his base of
co-developers and leveraged the Internet for collaboration harder than
anyone else, this worked.
>>

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:27:50 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

Paul Burridge wrote:


I'm sure she'll only tow the Nazi line her dear old dad has
indoctrinated her into.

All of his daughters are government employees in one form or another- I
wonder if Thompson told them that government employment is the "ultimate
welfare"?

---
LOL! Brings to mind something prophetic which my fourth grade teacher
said, which was that she saw the US slipping into socialism and the
then Soviet Union heading for democracy.

Another interesting take on it is the musical group "Steppenwolf"'s
offering of "Monster".

--
John Fields

 

[Jim Thompson]

On 2 Nov 2004 05:58:18 -0800, jdurban@vorel.com (Product developer)
wrote:

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message news:<ubrco0lbeses3mm3qqqa3gqaq7g8jvnlc6@4ax.com>...
My oldest daughter is a candidate (and most likely winner) for
Chairman of the Republican Party in Yuma County, Arizona ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Awesome!

We need all the help we can get. Did she have to take any special
courses in how to fight the new religion called liberalism?

It's just all in how you raise them ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:02:48 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:08:37 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:56:23 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:10:10 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

My oldest daughter is a candidate (and most likely winner) for
Chairman of the Republican Party in Yuma County, Arizona ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Congratulations! P.S. Did you get the e-mail I sent?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Yes. But haven't had time to look into it. Business is BOOMING!

...Jim Thompson

Okay, no rush. I just wanted to make sure that it didn't get filtered
out. When I get the parts and have a chance to evaluate them (probably
a few weeks), I'll send an update.

Are you guys doing something fun and not telling me about it?

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:13:02 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:02:48 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:08:37 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:56:23 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:10:10 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

My oldest daughter is a candidate (and most likely winner) for
Chairman of the Republican Party in Yuma County, Arizona ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Congratulations! P.S. Did you get the e-mail I sent?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Yes. But haven't had time to look into it. Business is BOOMING!

...Jim Thompson

Okay, no rush. I just wanted to make sure that it didn't get filtered
out. When I get the parts and have a chance to evaluate them (probably
a few weeks), I'll send an update.



Are you guys doing something fun and not telling me about it?

John

Yes ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:43:05 +0000, Paul Burridge wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:27:50 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

All of his daughters are government employees in one form or another- I
wonder if Thompson told them that government employment is the "ultimate
welfare"?

LOL! It's true, though. All those government/civil service workers
contribute nothing to a country's GDP. They're just deadwood; a drain
on those who do the real work. They make up rules and ensnare the
wealth-makers with red tape and bureaucracy and have the audacity to
pick your pockets for their wages in return! A bum on the street
asking for a dime deserves more respect.

Wasn't there some famous guy a couple thousand years ago who said,
"Even as you do unto the least of my brethren, you do unto me."?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Clarence]

"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2004.11.02.17.10.06.898007@example.net...

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:43:05 +0000, Paul Burridge wrote:

snip

Wasn't there some famous guy a couple thousand years ago who said,
"Even as you do unto the least of my brethren, you do unto me."?

We will never know.
That infamous "guy", while literate,
never wrote anything that survived!
We only "know" what others attribute to him.
No verification at all of any of the quotes!

So it is ALL "Hearsay!"

---
END

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:05:20 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:43:05 +0000, Paul Burridge wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:27:50 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

All of his daughters are government employees in one form or another- I
wonder if Thompson told them that government employment is the "ultimate
welfare"?

LOL! It's true, though. All those government/civil service workers
contribute nothing to a country's GDP. They're just deadwood; a drain
on those who do the real work. They make up rules and ensnare the
wealth-makers with red tape and bureaucracy and have the audacity to
pick your pockets for their wages in return! A bum on the street
asking for a dime deserves more respect.

Wasn't there some famous guy a couple thousand years ago who said,
"Even as you do unto the least of my brethren, you do unto me."?

---
Think about _that_ the next time you feel like flaming someone.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:20:46 -0800, "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:us5fo05b1qu5btncmag9nkadmc3t59n7e7@4ax.com...

---
LOL! Brings to mind something prophetic which my fourth grade teacher
said, which was that she saw the US slipping into socialism and the
then Soviet Union heading for democracy.

That wasn't your teacher talking. I remember this from my school days.
This bit of information was from the Kiplinger Changing Times
newsletter. Your teacher was parroting that newsletter.

---
In 1947?

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 01:07:13 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:56:48 -0600, John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:05:20 GMT, Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

Wasn't there some famous guy a couple thousand years ago who said,
"Even as you do unto the least of my brethren, you do unto me."?

---
Think about _that_ the next time you feel like flaming someone.

Oh, I do. I fully expect everybody I flame to be able to handle it,

---
Which is antithetical to one of your chameleon-like positions about
arrogance and predicting the future, remember?
---

and give it back to me in kind.

---
"They" may not, but your kindness won't go unrewarded!
---

And noticing somebody's foolishness
isn't necessarily "flaming" them.

---
We're not talking about _noticing_ someone's foolishness and showing
it to them in a way which might help them become less foolish, we're
talking about using that foolishness as a means of achieving
self-aggrandisement by intentionally deprecating the target.
---

Maybe you could say, "flaming is
in the mind of the beholder."

---
You could, and there are any number of other blame-shifting devices
you could use, but whether they'd be true or just attempts to escape
responsibility for your actions is another matter.
---

American bullets, however, are not.
They are in the bodies of the victims.

---
AHA! The old "Let's take the heat off of Rich by changing the subject"
trick. We're talking about you flaming Jim's daughters, not bullets.
---

And I must admit, it isn't George W. Bush I hate - it's the evil that
has him doing its bidding. Bush the man is more pitiable than anything
else.

---
Then do something to show _him_ "The Way".
---

And, if the cartel gets reelected, I guess I'll just sit here in my
guruic superiority, and say, "Oh, well, in the Big Picture, it doesn't
matter anyway - they're just fragments of spirits, trying to find their
balance point. The lesson is as intense as it needs to be to learn what
needs to be learned."

---
The intensity varies with how much you want to learn and your
resistance to what's flowing through you.
---

Thanks for the bout!

---
Sure.

--
John Fields

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:nhhho0530h9spl6np1jjc6sovosv9lvddc@4ax.com...

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:20:46 -0800, "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:us5fo05b1qu5btncmag9nkadmc3t59n7e7@4ax.com...

---
LOL! Brings to mind something prophetic which my fourth grade
teacher
said, which was that she saw the US slipping into socialism and the
then Soviet Union heading for democracy.

That wasn't your teacher talking. I remember this from my school
days.
This bit of information was from the Kiplinger Changing Times
newsletter. Your teacher was parroting that newsletter.

---
In 1947?

--
John Fields

Well, hey, maybe Kiplinger was parroting your teacher! I ain't _that_
old..

 

[Greg Pierce]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 10:23:45 +0000, the highly esteemed R. Steve Walz
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

uvcceet@juno.com wrote:

In <418B3FEF.17CF@armory.com>, on 11/05/04 at 08:48 AM,
"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> said:
--------------
Nazi's are Rightists, like Republicans, YOU go read history!

You come flying in here this AM with twenty posts spouting all kinds
of misinformation and that is okay.
-----------------
Nope, bullshit, I'm informing, YOU'RE disinforming.

You aren't informing anyone of anything, other than you know how to
swear a lot, and make childish comments.
----------------------
You're disinforming again.


You will never live long enough to put forth a rational argument that
Republicans are like Nazis.
-------------------------
I've lived to age 55, are you going to kill me now, you little faggoty
ponce?? And by the way, the well-recognized connect between Nazi's and
Rightists predates my whole life, you idiot.

Hmm, well, lessee. The Nazi party was also known as the National
*Socialist* Party. Stalin was a Communist, but that didn't stop him from
killing 30 million of his people. Then there is China, that Communist
bastion of human rights </sarcasm>.

Having seen your posts, Walz, I have long since come to the conclusion
that you aren't a "tolerant, open-minded" individual, and given a chance
*you* would commit genocide to achieve your version of an "ideal"
communist society.

--
Greg