OT: An Appeal by everyone's favourite eco-loon, Greta Thunbe

Cursitor Doom wrote:

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whit3rd wrote:
That is an odd, and biased, opinion, because the ideas are well based in
fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.

Do you want to comment on them?

Or only on the speaker?

Fine, but if you form your views based on the opinions of 16 year old
girls that would make you the world's biggest chump. How you have the
nerve to admit to being such a fool in public with no sense of shame is
quite remarkable indeed.

** Witless "whit3rd" has always been a giant chump.

A few regular trolls here would do well to properly consider what
they are endorsing, who is behind it, what it means and where it
is all headed. Be a new experience for them.

This US/Aussie lass could supply a good heads up - to anyone who
actually has a head, that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsqaPs-8SEs&t=128s

FYI:

Ms Watson has a law degree from the University of Melbourne and is a part time journalist on selected current affairs.


...... Phil
 
On 11/3/19 9:20 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 11/3/19 9:07 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

  bitrex is Worse than a Tenth Wit Fuckwit wrote:

   ----------------------------------------------




I wonder if anyone here has ever tried to "manipulate" a 16 year old
into doing something they don't really want to do on their volition.


** Keep right on wondering, cos that is stupid false comparison.

    An idiotic "straw man" argument so automatically worthless.

    From a notorious TROLLING idiot.

Parents have been trying for millennia to get 16 year olds to
clean up
their rooms and make their beds promptly with limited success.


** So you have fucking no idea how obsessed parents of all types
brain wash vulnerable and even no so vulnerable children ?

Commonly it some extreme religious or political belief.

AGW paranoia involves the worst of both.

The term "moron" does not even begin to cover complete asses like
you.




Have to be pretty confident in the effectiveness of your
"brainwashing"
to have your kid speak to the UN about the things you brainwashed them
to say, yeah? All they have to do is just one time say "actually
folks,
my parents are abusers and they're coaching me to say all this, it's
bullshit" and the entire scheme collapses.


** FSS yet another mindless "straw man" fallacy.

Brainwashed folk are in FACT * brainwashed *.

They simply have no awareness of the fact or that they have been
abused.

Folk called "de-programmers" exist to rescue young people from the
effects of dangerous cults. Usually paid by the kids parents to get
them back in touch with reality. Their best efforts are not always
successful.

Typically some crazy religious cult, doomsday cult and the big one
*Scientology* are the culprits.

The "bitrex" troll is just some mentally defective wanker who is in
love with is own bullshit.


.....  Phil


Doomsday cult leaders and Scientologists don't send their kids to do
interviews with the Daily Show


** Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....


  Another hypothetical, absurd RED-HERRING !!


  FFS  this anencephalic has an endless supply of them smelly fish.

  And no case whatsoever.


.....  Phil


She probably finds watching grumpy senior citizens having to pretend
they care about children because she's under 18 highly amusing, instead
of just demanding "shoot that Eco-feminist bitch!" as they would if she
were two years older and legally an adult.

She already knows what pushes ya buttons real well, I think. Who's
"manipulating" who?

I suppose it does sound kind of like a setup from that perspective. The
kind a smart 16 year old might come up with.
 
On 11/3/19 9:07 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
bitrex is Worse than a Tenth Wit Fuckwit wrote:

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I wonder if anyone here has ever tried to "manipulate" a 16 year old
into doing something they don't really want to do on their volition.


** Keep right on wondering, cos that is stupid false comparison.

An idiotic "straw man" argument so automatically worthless.

From a notorious TROLLING idiot.

Parents have been trying for millennia to get 16 year olds to clean up
their rooms and make their beds promptly with limited success.


** So you have fucking no idea how obsessed parents of all types brain wash vulnerable and even no so vulnerable children ?

Commonly it some extreme religious or political belief.

AGW paranoia involves the worst of both.

The term "moron" does not even begin to cover complete asses like you.





Have to be pretty confident in the effectiveness of your "brainwashing"
to have your kid speak to the UN about the things you brainwashed them
to say, yeah? All they have to do is just one time say "actually folks,
my parents are abusers and they're coaching me to say all this, it's
bullshit" and the entire scheme collapses.


** FSS yet another mindless "straw man" fallacy.

Brainwashed folk are in FACT * brainwashed *.

They simply have no awareness of the fact or that they have been abused.

Folk called "de-programmers" exist to rescue young people from the effects of dangerous cults. Usually paid by the kids parents to get them back in touch with reality. Their best efforts are not always successful.

Typically some crazy religious cult, doomsday cult and the big one
*Scientology* are the culprits.

The "bitrex" troll is just some mentally defective wanker who is in love with is own bullshit.


..... Phil


Doomsday cult leaders and Scientologists don't send their kids to do
interviews with the Daily Show


** Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....


Another hypothetical, absurd RED-HERRING !!


FFS this anencephalic has an endless supply of them smelly fish.

And no case whatsoever.


..... Phil

She probably finds watching grumpy senior citizens having to pretend
they care about children because she's under 18 highly amusing, instead
of just demanding "shoot that Eco-feminist bitch!" as they would if she
were two years older and legally an adult.

She already knows what pushes ya buttons real well, I think. Who's
"manipulating" who?
 
bitrex is Worse than a Tenth Wit Fuckwit wrote:

----------------------------------------------

I wonder if anyone here has ever tried to "manipulate" a 16 year old
into doing something they don't really want to do on their volition.


** Keep right on wondering, cos that is stupid false comparison.

An idiotic "straw man" argument so automatically worthless.

From a notorious TROLLING idiot.

Parents have been trying for millennia to get 16 year olds to clean up
their rooms and make their beds promptly with limited success.


** So you have fucking no idea how obsessed parents of all types brain wash vulnerable and even no so vulnerable children ?

Commonly it some extreme religious or political belief.

AGW paranoia involves the worst of both.

The term "moron" does not even begin to cover complete asses like you.





Have to be pretty confident in the effectiveness of your "brainwashing"
to have your kid speak to the UN about the things you brainwashed them
to say, yeah? All they have to do is just one time say "actually folks,
my parents are abusers and they're coaching me to say all this, it's
bullshit" and the entire scheme collapses.


** FSS yet another mindless "straw man" fallacy.

Brainwashed folk are in FACT * brainwashed *.

They simply have no awareness of the fact or that they have been abused.

Folk called "de-programmers" exist to rescue young people from the effects of dangerous cults. Usually paid by the kids parents to get them back in touch with reality. Their best efforts are not always successful.

Typically some crazy religious cult, doomsday cult and the big one
*Scientology* are the culprits.

The "bitrex" troll is just some mentally defective wanker who is in love with is own bullshit.


..... Phil


Doomsday cult leaders and Scientologists don't send their kids to do
interviews with the Daily Show

** Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.....


Another hypothetical, absurd RED-HERRING !!


FFS this anencephalic has an endless supply of them smelly fish.

And no case whatsoever.


...... Phil
 
On 11/3/19 8:43 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:30:35 -0800, whit3rd wrote:

That is an odd, and biased, opinion, because the ideas are well based in
fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.

Do you want to comment on them?

Or only on the speaker?

Fine, but if you form your views based on the opinions of 16 year old
girls that would make you the world's biggest chump. How you have the
nerve to admit to being such a fool in public with no sense of shame is
quite remarkable indeed.

Heh, thought you'd be happy about a kid calling the UN in essence a
bunch of do-nothing shitheads. Wrong topic, I guess.
 
whit3rd wrote:
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Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

[about Greta Thunberg]

Nothing lunatic about her ideas,

** A very biased opinion, not fact.

That is an odd, and biased, opinion, because the ideas are well based
in fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.

** Not Greta's ones expressed in the absurd speech she made.

Pure AGW paranioa and very dangerous.

That you seem to believe it is further and unnecessary proof of what a total half-wit you have proven to be here, over and over.




...... Phil
 
On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 1:27:02 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:
Cursitor Doom wrote:

---------------------
whit3rd wrote:

That is an odd, and biased, opinion, because the ideas are well based in
fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.

Do you want to comment on them?

Or only on the speaker?

Fine, but if you form your views based on the opinions of 16 year old
girls that would make you the world's biggest chump. How you have the
nerve to admit to being such a fool in public with no sense of shame is
quite remarkable indeed.

** Witless "whit3rd" has always been a giant chump.

Not in the Cursitor Doom league. In fact he's one of the saner people posting here (which isn't saying much).

A few regular trolls here would do well to properly consider what
they are endorsing, who is behind it, what it means and where it
is all headed. Be a new experience for them.

Phil could take his own advice.

This US/Aussie lass could supply a good heads up - to anyone who
actually has a head, that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsqaPs-8SEs&t=128s

FYI:

Ms Watson has a law degree from the University of Melbourne and is a part time journalist on selected current affairs.

And this makes her an expert on climate change? Or on how juvenile anxieties are being played on?

Despite Phil's delusions, anthropogenic global warming is happening, and is worth worrying about. The coal mining industry would prefer us to ignore the problem, ans seem to spend a lot on getting "influencers" to try to persuade the less well informed (like Phil) that it isn't happening.

It is cheaper to buy misleading U-tube presentations than it is to try to do the sort of scientific work that might provide alternative explanation of why the temperature of the planet is going up.

The people who have tried find some kind of alternative explanation haven't done very well so far, so the mining industry is concentrating on cheaper options.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 12:43:32 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:30:35 -0800, whit3rd wrote:

That is an odd, and biased, opinion, because the ideas are well based in
fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.

Do you want to comment on them?

Or only on the speaker?

Fine, but if you form your views based on the opinions of 16 year old
girls that would make you the world's biggest chump. How you have the
nerve to admit to being such a fool in public with no sense of shame is
quite remarkable indeed.

Cursitor Doom is bizarrely idiotic.

Greta Thurnberg is essentially echoing scientific orthodoxy. Whit3rd is not only endorsing the opinions of Greta Thurnberg, but also the group that got the

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Nobel_Peace_Prize

This group did include Al Gore, so Cursitor Doom won't like them, but agreeing with them doesn't make you any kind of fool. Disagreeing with them makes you a gullible sucker for climate change denial propaganda, but Cursitor Doom remains blissfully unconscious of this. So does John Larkin.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Bill Sloman is Dangerous wrote:

----------------------------


Greta Thurnberg is essentially echoing scientific orthodoxy.

** Just another of Bill's whacky misconceptions.


Whit3rd is not only endorsing the opinions of Greta Thurnberg,

** So a know fool endorses a disturbed child.

A dangerous sounding combination.



...... Phil
 
Bill Sloman is Dangerously Deluded wrote:

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..
** Witless "whit3rd" has always been a giant chump.

Not in the Cursitor Doom league.

** Completely misconceived again.


A few regular trolls here would do well to properly consider what
they are endorsing, who is behind it, what it means and where it
is all headed. Be a new experience for them.

Phil could take his own advice.

** I am no troll, but Bill is a giant one.



This US/Aussie lass could supply a good heads up - to anyone who
actually has a head, that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsqaPs-8SEs&t=128s

FYI:

Ms Watson has a law degree from the University of Melbourne and is a part time journalist on selected current affairs.

And this makes her an expert on climate change?

** Never even mentioned, she explains why in the vid Bill.

> Or on how juvenile anxieties are being played on?

** No need to be a chicken to tell a rotten egg.

Despite Phil's delusions,

** More misconceptions from the pathetic Bill.

Now suffering the last stage of autistic, personality degeneration.

Plus a nice dose of senile dementia.

Makes Bill feels entitled to be ultra pedantic, cos he has no insight left.

Makes him dangerous.


...... Phil
 
On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 5:29:32 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

** Witless "whit3rd" has always been a giant chump.

Not in the Cursitor Doom league.

** Completely misconceived again.

Even Phil can't be that blind to reality - he's trying to be provocative.

A few regular trolls here would do well to properly consider what
they are endorsing, who is behind it, what it means and where it
is all headed. Be a new experience for them.

Phil could take his own advice.

** I am no troll, but Bill is a giant one.

Phil is certainly acting exactly like a troll here, presumably trying to be provocative again (which is what trolls do).

This US/Aussie lass could supply a good heads up - to anyone who
actually has a head, that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsqaPs-8SEs&t=128s

FYI:

Ms Watson has a law degree from the University of Melbourne and is a part time journalist on selected current affairs.

And this makes her an expert on climate change?

** Never even mentioned, she explains why in the vid Bill.

Of course she would. Why would anybody waste the time to listen to it?

Or on how juvenile anxieties are being played on?

** No need to be a chicken to tell a rotten egg.

She certainly acts like a bad egg.

Despite Phil's delusions,

** More misconceptions from the pathetic Bill.

Or from the fulminating Phil. The reader can choose.

Now suffering the last stage of autistic, personality degeneration.

Plus a nice dose of senile dementia.

Probably not.

Makes Bill feels entitled to be ultra pedantic, cos he has no insight left.

Makes him dangerous.

As opposed to Phil, who is an entirely reliable model of sweet reasonableness.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 6:12:11 PM UTC-8, Phil Allison wrote:
whit3rd wrote:
---------------
Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

[about Greta Thunberg]

Nothing lunatic about her ideas,

** A very biased opinion, not fact.

... the ideas are well based
in fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.


** Not Greta's ones expressed in the absurd speech she made.

Zero content. No mention of ANY particulars. Why bother to post?
 
whit3rd is an IDIOT wrote:

-------------------------

Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

[about Greta Thunberg]

Nothing lunatic about her ideas,

** A very biased opinion, not fact.

... the ideas are well based
in fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.


** Not Greta's ones expressed in the absurd speech she made.

Zero content.

** None a reckless liar like you can see.


No mention of ANY particulars.

** There were none supplied to address.


Why bother to post?

** Self defence re mindless abuse is one reason.

Why do you bother to even breathe ?



...... Phil
 
On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 8:45:31 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:
whit3rd wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

[about Greta Thunberg]

Nothing lunatic about her ideas,

** A very biased opinion, not fact.

... the ideas are well based
in fact, and have been widely distributed for public comment.

** Not Greta's ones expressed in the absurd speech she made.

List the differences. Here's the speech

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763452863/transcript-greta-thunbergs-speech-at-the-u-n-climate-action-summit

Zero content.

** None a reckless liar like you can see.

And none that the ever-so-scrupulous Phil Allison has got around to listing yet.

No mention of ANY particulars.

** There were none supplied to address.

Greta Thurnberg's address is a published document. You've made general claims about it, but nothing more specific than a general allegation that she has been "brainwashed". I'd say "educated" but then I happen to think that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is doing the job that it was set up to do, rather than giving credence to alarmist delusions, which seems to be what you chose to think.

Why bother to post?

** Self defence re mindless abuse is one reason.

The imagined need to defend yourself against equally imaginary abuse?

> Why do you bother to even breathe?

It's one of those biological imperatives. If you neglect it for more than few minutes, you can't do it any more.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 11:49:04 PM UTC+11, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 1:27:05 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

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Cursitor Doom wrote:

If you see a young girl hitch-hiking and you happen to be passing in your electric vehicle, please stop and give her a lift:

https://tinyurl.com/y36etrlh

Nothing lunatic about her ideas,

** A very biased opinion, not fact.

even if Cursitor Doom doesn't know enough to realise it.

** That poor, mentally unbalanced girl is being horribly exploited by climate fanatics with no conscience.

Along with a great many others, I believe those involved should be charged with child abuse.

If Greta come to grief one day, at her own hand, then they have murdered her.

She's got a lot of publicity for them,

** Using a sick kid as your spokesperson and public mascot is sickening..

She may have Asperger's syndrome, but that doesn't make her sick. And she's no kind of mascot. She has her own opinions and she articulates them.

No doubt creeps like you have told her to sit down and shut up, but it doesn't seem to have worked

> I completely agree.

Of course you do.

> She is being set up.

Seems unlikely. She has well known parents who would be able to protect her against exploitation if they thought that this was what was going on.

> She probably thinks she has special gifts which have elevated her to great prominence, when in reality she is a useful idiot.

Who knows what she thinks? Nobody who posts here seems to have read what she has actually said, which didn't strike me a suggesting that she though that she had any special gifts.

She's certainly useful to the people lobbying for more effective action against climate change, but a whole lot of non-idiots think that this is an issue worth lobbying for, and it's hard to see anything idiotic in her point of view.

Cursitor Doom wouldn't agree, but he is a gullible idiot.

> I hope that she can properly process this when the day comes that she is spent fuel and is no longer needed and nobody cares about her opinions anymore.

The child of an actor father and an opera singer mother is likely to be aware that you are only as good as your most recent performance. She has found a part to play, and seems to have played it rather skillfully, and will probably move on to more conventional roles when she gets older.

> > Most folk can see that and quietly despise all the people behind it.

Some folks do try to blunt the emotional impact of her point of view by trying to see her as a puppet. That's pretty despicable.

> > Bill is blind to the reality going on here.

I'm not seeing what you see, but then again I don't feel any particular need to see it that way. She's right, and you aren't.

which illustrates appreciable competence.

** That has got to be the most ridiculous claim Sloman has ever posted here.

And he has some real doozies on his record.

Phil has his own collection of ridiculous claims. This would be one of them..

If she mentioned the name Cursitor Doom,

** FFS what sort of argument is that??

Hypothetical, ad hominem non sensical garbage is what it is.

Left wing lunatics are EVERY bit as bad and dangerous as right wing ones.

Exact same deranged fanatics, different causes.

Or so Phil tells us. Cursitor Doom is a gullible idiot who believes every last bit of climate change denial propaganda. Greta Thurnberg retails the conclusions of the International Panel on Climate Change which was set up to review the science and serve it up to politicians in a form that they could understand.

It's not a bunch of deranged fanatics, even if Phil and Cursitor Doom would like to think so. Deranged fanatics have different career paths, and get their money from more poorly documented sources.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Monday, 4 November 2019 06:19:33 UTC, Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman is Dangerous wrote:

Greta Thurnberg is essentially echoing scientific orthodoxy.


** Just another of Bill's whacky misconceptions.

and shows how far from capable of logic & reasoned thinking Bill truly is.
 
On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 1:27:05 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

------------------
Cursitor Doom wrote:

If you see a young girl hitch-hiking and you happen to be passing in your
electric vehicle, please stop and give her a lift:

https://tinyurl.com/y36etrlh

Nothing lunatic about her ideas,


** A very biased opinion, not fact.


even if Cursitor Doom doesn't know enough to realise it.


** That poor, mentally unbalanced girl is being horribly exploited by climate fanatics with no conscience.

Along with a great many others, I believe those involved should be charged with child abuse.

If Greta come to grief one day, at her own hand, then they have murdered her.


She's got a lot of publicity for them,


** Using a sick kid as your spokesperson and public mascot is sickening.

I completely agree. She is being set up. She probably thinks she has special gifts which have elevated her to great prominence, when in reality she is a useful idiot. I hope that she can properly process this when the day comes that she is spent fuel and is no longer needed and nobody cares about her opinions anymore.
Most folk can see that and quietly despise all the people behind it.

Bill is blind to the reality going on here.


which illustrates appreciable competence.


** That has got to be the most ridiculous claim Sloman has ever posted here.

And he has some real doozies on his record.


If she mentioned the name Cursitor Doom,


** FFS what sort of argument is that ??

Hypothetical, ad hominem non sensical garbage is what it is.

Left wing lunatics are EVERYT bit as bad and dangerous as right wing ones..

Exact same deranged fanatics, different causes.



..... Phil
 
On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 12:27:51 AM UTC+11, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, 4 November 2019 06:19:33 UTC, Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman is Dangerous wrote:

Greta Thurnberg is essentially echoing scientific orthodoxy.

** Just another of Bill's whacky misconceptions.

and shows how far from capable of logic & reasoned thinking Bill truly is.

Not that NT has any idea what logical and reasoned out thinking would look like.

He certainly can't produce anything that looks like it. There's a successful Ph.D. thesis a long way back in my past, so at least I was once able to manage it.

Here's text of Greta Thurnberg's speech to the UN

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763452863/transcript-greta-thunbergs-speech-at-the-u-n-climate-action-summit

Let's see Phil Alliosn or NT produce a line by line analysis that picks out any deviation from scientific orthodoxy.

The fact that neither of them seems to know much about science shouldn't discourage them.

The jeering that their feeble attempts would run into if they were silly enough try would be a more potent discouragement, if they had any sense.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 11/4/19 7:48 AM, blocher@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 1:27:05 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:

------------------
Cursitor Doom wrote:

If you see a young girl hitch-hiking and you happen to be passing in your
electric vehicle, please stop and give her a lift:

https://tinyurl.com/y36etrlh

Nothing lunatic about her ideas,


** A very biased opinion, not fact.


even if Cursitor Doom doesn't know enough to realise it.


** That poor, mentally unbalanced girl is being horribly exploited by climate fanatics with no conscience.

Along with a great many others, I believe those involved should be charged with child abuse.

If Greta come to grief one day, at her own hand, then they have murdered her.


She's got a lot of publicity for them,


** Using a sick kid as your spokesperson and public mascot is sickening.

I completely agree. She is being set up. She probably thinks she has special gifts which have elevated her to great prominence, when in reality she is a useful idiot. I hope that she can properly process this when the day comes that she is spent fuel and is no longer needed and nobody cares about her opinions anymore.

As I mentioned elsewhere she probably finds watching a bunch of
stone-cold lizard-like right-wingers, in favor of gunning down illegal
immigrants at the border, forced to put on some kind of child-welfare
specialist act and construct the appearance of not being the straight-up
nastiest sons-of-bitches in the word, highly amusing.

What a touching Hallmark channel moment. It's a goddamn Christmas
miracle. It doesn't fool anybody.
 
Bill Sloman has Gone Insane wrote:

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Greta Thurnberg is essentially echoing scientific orthodoxy.

** Just another of Bill's whacky misconceptions.

and shows how far from capable of logic & reasoned thinking Bill truly is.


Here's text of Greta Thurnberg's speech to the UN

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/23/763452863/transcript-greta-thunbergs-speech-at-the-u-n-climate-action-summit

Let's see Phil Alliosn or NT produce a line by line analysis that
picks out any deviation from scientific orthodoxy.

** The AGW hypothesis is just that.

Orthodoxy is still only a pipe dream.

------------------------------------

Greta's bizarre speech was full of AGW alarmist propaganda - intended
to induce fear in the young and gullible.

For the rest, it is simply not working.

Some crazy Scandinavian teen seen ranting on the news one night is not near enough.

Very telling this is the best effort the top AGW loonies can present.



...... Phil
 

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