OT: Americans paying over $3 for a regular loaf of bread?...

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John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t82fsp$jh$1@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
those bio weapons labs.

Putin\'s elite hardware and forces just got their asses kicked again
today.

Ukraine\'s goal is to halt Putin and his army\'s attempt to take over a
sovereign nation through destruction and murder. Once that foul,
criminal action attempt gets put down, then Ukraine will talk more of
NATO. Right now, the primary goal of all the peaceful nations around
the world is to put down Putin\'s illicit, criminal, murderous
incursion.

 

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
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On 06/11/2022 05:16 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO
is promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind
all those bio weapons labs.

NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic,
know
nothing idiot.


https://balkaninsight.com/2019/03/22/78-days-of-fear-remembering-na
tos-bombing-of-yugoslavia/

https://1995blog.com/2014/08/12/lesson-misunderstood-natos-1995-bom
bing-in-bosnia/

But did they threaten first? Were they deemed \"retaliatory\" by some
entity?

 

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
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On 06/11/2022 09:11 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net
wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe
wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two
years ago is now $3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY
bad very quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can
not be shipped out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open
up the shipping lane. We are already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t
eat much red meat but when I do I\'m determined to have
quality, not ground beef fast food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around
here though but one has to hunt - even just move packages
around in the cooler. I got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for
$3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but
the chuck eye is more like a less-presentable ribeye than
beef chuck. And it\'s usually just as delicious as a
ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak
around here, usually seriously disappointing & overpriced.
the local grocery chains tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a
pound, and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in
my life by paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make
at home. A steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or
Ruth Chris or something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak
mine in Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas
grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and
rarely marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15
min before cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides,
then sear in extra light olive over high heat on the stovetop
(I use a ceramic-surface skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the
results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can
generally get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and
shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts
of meat that have the combination of low price & good taste,
you use your eyes and look at the meat and that\'s often a good
guide to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia
there aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets
still do their own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I
tend to walk away more often than not from the steaks as I
don\'t see anything that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive
too, and worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no
good reason to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a
toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like
catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how
many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now. I hear there are
feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants.
Check it out.

What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt
that has *manure* in it!

https://www.themunicipal.com/2020/08/missoula-integrates-composting
-into-wastewater-operations/

The part of the lawn I reseeded this spring is doing well on a
diet of \'biosolids\'.

In California, the San Diego neighborhood I lived in where they did
that and even had two sets of water lines ran, everywhere stank. I
rode a bike then. You guys in your fancy sealed up cars maybe don\'t
notice. I certainly did.

 

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 15:51:03 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 01:50 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:43:42 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 09:11 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
$3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t eat much red
meat but when I do I\'m determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but the chuck eye
is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it\'s usually
just as delicious as a ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
and look at the meat and that\'s often a good guide to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don\'t see anything
that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no good reason
to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now.
I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.

What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
*manure* in it!

https://www.themunicipal.com/2020/08/missoula-integrates-composting-into-wastewater-operations/

The part of the lawn I reseeded this spring is doing well on a diet of
\'biosolids\'.



The local zoo sometimes gives away bags of ZooDoo.

https://www.kpax.com/rebound/heres-the-scoop-llama-manure-sales-are-off-the-charts


What could be finer than LaPoo? The Garden City Compost was a win-win.
When the compost operation was private on a hot summer day there was a
certain aroma in the area. EKO and the sewage plant pointed fingers at
each other to the point where the city spent $50,000 on a study to
determine which smelled more like shit. Neither were above reproach so
when the city bought the compost operation and had control of both ends
it improved the air quality immensely.

The problem may not be over though. The vacant field next to the compost
operation is the new designated homeless campground. The idea was to
herd them from random sites along the river into one area.

I\'ve done the Paris sewer tour and the half-day tour of the big SE San
Francisco wastewater processing plant. SF was a lot more fun and
smelled much better. Mo gave me the sewer tour as a birthday present.

3rd and Evans, just south of Islais Creek. There are just two creeks
left in SF, Islais and Lobos, but both are mostly underground now.
Islais Creek starts two blocks from here, in Glen Canyon.

SF has one combined drainage and sewage system, so they process a lot
of product. They make a lot of compost too, which they mostly sell to
farmers.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

 

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
news:jgkh27Fll00U1@mid.individual.net:

What could be finer than LaPoo? The Garden City Compost was a
win-win.

You put yer weed seed in there!

 

[John Doe]

Difficult to believe any report coming from Ukraine, considering the fact
their media is 100% state-controlled and their head of state is a comedian.

 

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t839ii$ucl$2@dont-email.me:

Difficult to believe any report coming from Ukraine, considering
the fact their media is 100% state-controlled and their head of
state is a comedian.

You are an abject idiot. There are news crews there from several
international networks and NONE of them are controlled as to where and
what to shoot or say.

You couldn\'t be more fucking stupid if you tried.

 

[whit3rd]

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 3:02:20 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

Russia could have started World War III instead of tearing down the Berlin
wall.

So what? Any nation with nuclear weapons can start \"World War III\"
Russia didn\'t tear down any wall, Germans did that.

>Now Russia has its back against the proverbial wall, ...

Russia has no wall of any sort that prevent them from enjoying
a peaceful state within their traditional borders. Someone has
a metaphoric wall in mind, but metaphors aren\'t reality. That
metaphor is nonsense.

after NATO\'s
AGGRESSIVE expansion since the end of the Cold War.

International agreements aren\'t aggression. Invading Ukraine is;
invading Georgia is.

 

[rbowman]

On 06/11/2022 05:25 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t82fsp$jh$1@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
those bio weapons labs.

Putin\'s elite hardware and forces just got their asses kicked again
today.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-forces-run-low-on-ammunition-amid-e2-80-98street-to-street-e2-80-99-fighting-with-russians/ar-AAYlZNs

Only in your universe.

 

[rbowman]

On 06/11/2022 05:35 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
news:jgk5k7Fjpc1U1@mid.individual.net:

On 06/11/2022 05:16 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO
is promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind
all those bio weapons labs.

NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic,
know
nothing idiot.


https://balkaninsight.com/2019/03/22/78-days-of-fear-remembering-na
tos-bombing-of-yugoslavia/

https://1995blog.com/2014/08/12/lesson-misunderstood-natos-1995-bom
bing-in-bosnia/

But did they threaten first? Were they deemed \"retaliatory\" by some
entity?

What entity would that be?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of_the_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

 

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
news:jgl21kFo99lU1@mid.individual.net:

On 06/11/2022 05:25 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t82fsp$jh$1@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO
is promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind
all those bio weapons labs.

Putin\'s elite hardware and forces just got their asses kicked
again
today.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-forces-run-low-on-ammu
nition-amid-e2-80-98street-to-street-e2-80-99-fighting-with-russian
s/ar-AAYlZNs

Only in your universe.

We live in THIS universe. ALL of us. Putin is losing hardware.
His troops are losing already low morale.