OT: Americans paying over $3 for a regular loaf of bread?...

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:26:07 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:39:52 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now $3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very quickly.

The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the price of his morning donut has gone up...

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-price-outlook/summary-findings/

One hour of minimum wage will buy about 10 pounds of potatoes or a
couple of loaves of bread or two or three pounds of chicken or two or
three dozen eggs. Safeway sometimes has decent shrimp for $7 a pound.





--

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- Robert Widlar
 
John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t80tf1$1rv$1@dont-
email.me:

> nazistic

Not even a word, you retarded ReThugLeTard troll dumbfuck!
 
John Dope <always.look@message.header> the Usenet wussy boy wrote in
news:t82348$num$3@dont-email.me:

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
those bio weapons labs.

NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic, know
nothing idiot.

Too much of a pussy wussy boy to argue your claimed points. So you
revert to your \"troll\" response with your retarded follow-up header
morph stupidity and no actual response.

It does not get more pussifed than John Dope.
 
John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t82avo$fs9$2@dont-email.me:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

John Dope wrote:

The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is
now $3.35 at Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
quickly.

The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the
price of his morning donut has gone up...

Because one notices the price of bread radically increasing,
therefore one is blind to the \"entire food chain collapsing\"?

IOW... Segue into your opinion with an illogical insult.
As if your economic logic has any merit whatsoever. Your Faux Non-
news rhetoric is pathetic. You really need to wipe the
TrumpShitSmear off your face and eyes.
 
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:a0c9ahhvmgmu3f4kh8poednq85qot7vik9@4ax.com:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net
wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe
wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two
years ago is now $3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY
bad very quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can
not be shipped out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open
up the shipping lane. We are already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t
eat much red meat but when I do I\'m determined to have
quality, not ground beef fast food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around
here though but one has to hunt - even just move packages
around in the cooler. I got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for
$3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but
the chuck eye is more like a less-presentable ribeye than
beef chuck. And it\'s usually just as delicious as a
ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak
around here, usually seriously disappointing & overpriced.
the local grocery chains tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a
pound, and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in
my life by paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at
home. A steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth
Chris or something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak
mine in Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas
grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and
rarely marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min
before cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then
sear in extra light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use
a ceramic-surface skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the
results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can
generally get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and
shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts
of meat that have the combination of low price & good taste, you
use your eyes and look at the meat and that\'s often a good guide
to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia
there aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets
still do their own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I
tend to walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don\'t
see anything that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive
too, and worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no
good reason to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a
toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like
catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how
many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now. I hear there are
feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants.
Check it out.

What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that
has *manure* in it!

It is all starstuff. Managed to come to this form and you want to
cry about where it got its nutrient chains from.

The miracle of life rose up from the muck and you are blind to it
because you are aware of the muck that oozes out of you and cringe at
anything spawned from the muck of others.

I am pretty sure that the \'manure\' from herbavore animals is far
less nasty than the stuff that oozes out of your lower and upper
anuses. This upper anus spew you made here is pretty nasty.
 
The reactionary foulmouthed group idiot, Always Wrong, needs to expand its
vocabulary.


Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all those bio
weapons labs.

https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/russia-pushes-ukrainian-forces-to-
outski-idUSKBN2NO20A

Click on the right angle/arrow a few times and you will see a guy bending
over on the side of the van. He has a swastika tattoo...

A direct link to the picture...

https://s2.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20220608&t=2&i=1601377080&w=
780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPEI5713I

Ukraine is NOT a one-nation state. Ukraine has always been a deeply
divided country: Western Ukraine is traditionally nazistic (they were on
Hitler\'s side during WW2, and they continue to be nazis) they speak their
own dialect of Ukrainian language and hate everyone else; Transcarpathia
(Ruthenia) is anti-West Ukrainian and moderately pro-Russian but most of
all Ruthenians (they speak their language as well as Russian and
Ukrainian) want to be reunited with Hungary; Central Ukraine is the true
Ukraine. Central Ukraine is moderately anti-West Ukrainian, moderately
pro-Russian, they speak Ukrainian and Russian (in towns). Southern and
Eastern Ukrainians are very anti-West, very pro-Russian, they speak
predominantly Russian language. Cremeans always considered themselves
Russian; hate West Ukrainians.


DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t80tf1$1rv$1@dont-
email.me:

nazistic

Not even a word, you retarded ReThugLeTard troll dumbfuck!
 
This reactionary foulmouthed group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong,
has been insulting and threatening other group members here
for a decade...

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> the Usenet wussy boy wrote in
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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
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Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
those bio weapons labs.

NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic, know
nothing idiot.


Too much of a pussy wussy boy to argue your claimed points. So you
revert to your \"troll\" response with your retarded follow-up header
morph stupidity and no actual response.

It does not get more pussifed than John Dope.
 
This reactionary foulmouthed group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong,
has been insulting and threatening other group members here
for a decade...

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t82avo$fs9$2@dont-email.me:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

John Dope wrote:

The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is
now $3.35 at Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
quickly.

The entire food chain is collapsing and the nitwit notices the
price of his morning donut has gone up...

Because one notices the price of bread radically increasing,
therefore one is blind to the \"entire food chain collapsing\"?

IOW... Segue into your opinion with an illogical insult.

As if your economic logic has any merit whatsoever. Your Faux Non-
news rhetoric is pathetic. You really need to wipe the
TrumpShitSmear off your face and eyes.
 
Further, John Dope stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 58.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1677 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
812 have been John Dope \"troll format\" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:30:36 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t82fvc$jh$2@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

GkerrZVwoFHJ
 
In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Dope stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 58.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 1677 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
812 have been John Dope \"troll format\" postings.

The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:33:25 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t82g4l$jh$3@dont-email.me>.

4FAMrjlRYgzE
 
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 11:11:59 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
$3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t eat much red
meat but when I do I\'m determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but the chuck eye
is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it\'s usually
just as delicious as a ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
and look at the meat and that\'s often a good guide to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don\'t see anything
that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no good reason
to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now.
I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.
What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
*manure* in it!

That is not raw manure, it\'s been treated to kill most pathogens. You don\'t want to get infected with anything called a PROTOZOA. They cause big problems and are impossible to clear completely.

A lot of these nationwide recalls on contaminated produce are caused by local wildlife wandering into growing fields and pooping on the crops. Some contaminants just won\'t wash off no matter how they process it. There was something on strawberries from Mexico causing hepatitis, CDC said to just throw them away because it can\'t be washed off. Hepatitis just means inflamed liver and doesn\'t necessarily mean the well-known hepatitis virus family. Then this ever more common listeria on leaf crops, seems to make it through processing all time, and get into everything.

PASTE:

Food Safety
For all the benefits of using manure and manure-based composts in the garden, there are also some risks. Animal manures harbor pathogens harmful to humans, including E. coli, Salmonella, and Campylobacter bacteria, and Giardia or Cryptosporidium protozoa. These organisms can affect people when they consume crops contaminated with soil, and under certain conditions, they can be taken up into plant tissue.

The risk from pathogens is greatly reduced when manure is composted correctly. To ensure that pathogens have been killed, the compost pile must reach a high temperature (between 131°F and 140°F) for a sustained period of time (several weeks). The compost must also be turned regularly and carefully monitored so that all of the manure has been exposed to sufficient temperatures. In home compost piles and in unmanaged manure piles, this rarely happens. Aged manure is not the same as composted manure, and it is not safe to assume that pathogens in an aged manure pile have been destroyed.

Another strategy for destroying pathogens is pasteurization. Some commercial poultry manure products are processed in this way. Pathogens, begin to die once incorporated into garden soil, and research has shown that incorporating manure at least 120 days before harvest greatly reduces risks of food borne illness.
--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 16:07:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:a0c9ahhvmgmu3f4kh8poednq85qot7vik9@4ax.com:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net
wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe
wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two
years ago is now $3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY
bad very quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can
not be shipped out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open
up the shipping lane. We are already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t
eat much red meat but when I do I\'m determined to have
quality, not ground beef fast food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around
here though but one has to hunt - even just move packages
around in the cooler. I got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for
$3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but
the chuck eye is more like a less-presentable ribeye than
beef chuck. And it\'s usually just as delicious as a
ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak
around here, usually seriously disappointing & overpriced.
the local grocery chains tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a
pound, and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in
my life by paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at
home. A steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth
Chris or something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak
mine in Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas
grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and
rarely marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min
before cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then
sear in extra light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use
a ceramic-surface skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the
results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can
generally get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and
shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts
of meat that have the combination of low price & good taste, you
use your eyes and look at the meat and that\'s often a good guide
to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia
there aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets
still do their own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I
tend to walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don\'t
see anything that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive
too, and worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no
good reason to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a
toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like
catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how
many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now. I hear there are
feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants.
Check it out.

What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that
has *manure* in it!

It is all starstuff. Managed to come to this form and you want to
cry about where it got its nutrient chains from.

The miracle of life rose up from the muck and you are blind to it
because you are aware of the muck that oozes out of you and cringe at
anything spawned from the muck of others.

I am pretty sure that the \'manure\' from herbavore animals is far
less nasty than the stuff that oozes out of your lower and upper
anuses. This upper anus spew you made here is pretty nasty.

All my body parts perform their intended functions very well [1].

How do yours work? You do seem to be constantly concerned with
digestive issues.


[1] except my eyes, but that will soon get fixed. It\'s amazing what
ophthalmologists can do these days.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On 06/11/2022 05:16 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
those bio weapons labs.

NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic, know
nothing idiot.

https://balkaninsight.com/2019/03/22/78-days-of-fear-remembering-natos-bombing-of-yugoslavia/

https://1995blog.com/2014/08/12/lesson-misunderstood-natos-1995-bombing-in-bosnia/
 
On 06/11/2022 09:11 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
$3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t eat much red
meat but when I do I\'m determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but the chuck eye
is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it\'s usually
just as delicious as a ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
and look at the meat and that\'s often a good guide to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don\'t see anything
that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no good reason
to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now.
I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.

What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
*manure* in it!

https://www.themunicipal.com/2020/08/missoula-integrates-composting-into-wastewater-operations/

The part of the lawn I reseeded this spring is doing well on a diet of
\'biosolids\'.
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:43:42 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 09:11 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
$3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t eat much red
meat but when I do I\'m determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but the chuck eye
is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it\'s usually
just as delicious as a ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
and look at the meat and that\'s often a good guide to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don\'t see anything
that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no good reason
to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now.
I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.

What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
*manure* in it!

https://www.themunicipal.com/2020/08/missoula-integrates-composting-into-wastewater-operations/

The part of the lawn I reseeded this spring is doing well on a diet of
\'biosolids\'.

The local zoo sometimes gives away bags of ZooDoo.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
As every grown-up knows... NATO countries have invaded lots of other
countries, with the support of other NATO members. Because \"they weren\'t
flying a NATO flag, therefore it has nothing to do with NATO\" is the
argument of a soulless imperialist warmonger...

--
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On 06/11/2022 05:16 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:t80s35$a1$3@dont-email.me:

Russia\'s goal is to eliminate the threat from Ukraine that NATO is
promoting, like the threat from Ukrainian Nazis. Nevermind all
those bio weapons labs.

NATO has never posed any threat to any nation, you pathetic, know
nothing idiot.


https://balkaninsight.com/2019/03/22/78-days-of-fear-remembering-natos-bombing-of-yugoslavia/

https://1995blog.com/2014/08/12/lesson-misunderstood-natos-1995-bombing-in-bosnia/
 
In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 58.8% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
least 1684 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
818 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 11 Jun 2022 20:10:51 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t82ssa$4eu$1@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

GlmM7kyBJ1Tk
 
On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 1:11:01 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
As every grown-up knows... NATO countries have invaded lots of other
countries, with the support of other NATO members. Because \"they weren\'t
flying a NATO flag, therefore it has nothing to do with NATO\" is the
argument of a soulless imperialist warmonger...

Meaning Putin, the only \'imperialist warmonger\' mentioned in recent decades?
But, I can\'t recall him ever making that claim.

In related factoids, we see that non-NATO counties have invaded NATO
countries, with the support of other non-NATO countries... you can\'t blame NATO
as if it were a tribe that controlled all its members; they\'re INDEPENDENT nations
except during a common action. You can\'t treat non-NATO countries as a tribe, either.
 
On 06/11/2022 01:50 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:43:42 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On 06/11/2022 09:11 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:36:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 9:47:59 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/10/2022 1:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:11:14 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 10:37 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 18:59:50 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/9/2022 6:56 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 6/9/2022 5:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 13:30:33 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
The same loaf of bread that was about $2.30 one-two years ago is now
$3.35 at
Walmart.

Hopefully that\'s not a trend, or things will get REALLY bad very
quickly.

Because the basic ingredient (wheat) to make bread can not be shipped
out of Ukraine. Time for NATO to open up the shipping lane. We are
already in food world war.

A loaf of bread is a lot of food for $3.35

We pay $12 for good sourdough.



The real hikes have been in stuff like red meat. I don\'t eat much red
meat but when I do I\'m determined to have quality, not ground beef fast
food shit.

There\'s still some good deals to be had on quality around here though
but one has to hunt - even just move packages around in the cooler. I
got 3/4 pound chuck eye steak for $3.79 the other day.

People get scared off by the word \"chuck\" in it maybe but the chuck eye
is more like a less-presentable ribeye than beef chuck. And it\'s usually
just as delicious as a ribeye.

Incidentally, Walmart almost never has good deals on steak around here,
usually seriously disappointing & overpriced. the local grocery chains
tend to beat them hands-down.

There\'s no reason to eat cheap beef. The good stuff is $27 a pound,
and worth it.

We can get pretty good burger meat for $8.



Hmpf. I don\'t own a condo and a paid-off car at this point in my life by
paying $27/lb for steaks, man.

OK, stay away from restaurants.

I don\'t often go to steakhouses. Around here you\'d pay $27 at a
restaurant for the same steak from a supermarket you can make at home. A
steak worth going out for means going to Mooo or Ruth Chris or
something, here\'s Mooo\'s menu:

https://mooorestaurant.com/menus

A 24 oz porterhouse is going to be $98.

A really good 1/3 lb filet once a month is worth it. I soak mine in
Soy Vey teriyaki and bbq scorched+rare on my tiny gas grill.

I tend to have a steak at breakfast more often than dinner, and rarely
marinate \'em for that. Just leave it out for about 15 min before
cooking, grind some salt & pepper on both sides, then sear in extra
light olive over high heat on the stovetop (I use a ceramic-surface
skillet) with garlic & butter. EZ

The Brat makes fun of my tiny grill, but she sure eats the results.

Cheap supermarket beef mostly tastes like cardboard. You can generally
get pretty good chicken and sometimes fish and shrimp.

As I say, you can hunt around at a supermarket cooler for cuts of meat
that have the combination of low price & good taste, you use your eyes
and look at the meat and that\'s often a good guide to how it\'ll taste!

A dedicated butcher shop is best but unfortunately in suburbia there
aren\'t many of those around, anymore. A few supermarkets still do their
own cutting, but it\'s rare.

In any case when at a supermarket instead of a butcher shop I tend to
walk away more often than not from the steaks as I don\'t see anything
that looks good for the price.

Really good salmon and black cod and such can be expensive too, and
worth it.

Now, in New England fish and seafood is the thing there\'s no good reason
to go to a supermarket for..

Guess you didn\'t get the memo, but the world\'s oceans are a toilet. Anyone who eats shellfish or bottom feeder fish, like catfish, is behind the times. No telling the equivalent of how many tampons or pampers you\'ve ingested by now.
I hear there are feasts to be had in the dumpsters behind the better restaurants. Check it out.

What\'s really disgusting is that some vegetables grow in dirt that has
*manure* in it!

https://www.themunicipal.com/2020/08/missoula-integrates-composting-into-wastewater-operations/

The part of the lawn I reseeded this spring is doing well on a diet of
\'biosolids\'.



The local zoo sometimes gives away bags of ZooDoo.

https://www.kpax.com/rebound/heres-the-scoop-llama-manure-sales-are-off-the-charts


What could be finer than LaPoo? The Garden City Compost was a win-win.
When the compost operation was private on a hot summer day there was a
certain aroma in the area. EKO and the sewage plant pointed fingers at
each other to the point where the city spent $50,000 on a study to
determine which smelled more like shit. Neither were above reproach so
when the city bought the compost operation and had control of both ends
it improved the air quality immensely.

The problem may not be over though. The vacant field next to the compost
operation is the new designated homeless campground. The idea was to
herd them from random sites along the river into one area.
 
\"The people are good. Their leader is evil.\" <-- Imperialist warmonger
propaganda.

Doubt I would want to live in Russia, but it\'s obviously not all bad.

I\'m very concerned about the direction we are heading, but it won\'t be the
first time the most powerful country in the world self-destructed (a most
important difference being we have nukes).

Russia could have started World War III instead of tearing down the Berlin
wall. Now Russia has its back against the proverbial wall, after NATO\'s
AGGRESSIVE expansion since the end of the Cold War. Self-defense is a
basic right. Doesn\'t matter how evil you think Russia is. But of course
cannibal leftists disagree.

Someone asked what Henry Kissinger would say NOW. Now we know what Henry
Kissinger would say, since he did. Happy to quote it...


whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 1:11:01 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
As every grown-up knows... NATO countries have invaded lots of other
countries, with the support of other NATO members. Because \"they weren\'t
flying a NATO flag, therefore it has nothing to do with NATO\" is the
argument of a soulless imperialist warmonger...

Meaning Putin, the only \'imperialist warmonger\' mentioned in recent decades?
But, I can\'t recall him ever making that claim.

In related factoids, we see that non-NATO counties have invaded NATO
countries, with the support of other non-NATO countries... you can\'t blame NATO
as if it were a tribe that controlled all its members; they\'re INDEPENDENT nations
except during a common action. You can\'t treat non-NATO countries as a tribe, either.
 

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