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Gosh Steve, you don't sound a bit like the model employee.Your "vision" is merely your lie. Yours is the delusion of the
slave-master, that his slaves surely love him because they suck
up to him. He never really gets it that they would kill him if
they could get away with it.
What? You aren't donating all your income to The People?My income is just fine, thanks. If I thought you were worth it to
prove it to you, your pitifully wrong little political fantasy would
collapse around you like a house of cards.
Undoubtedly.On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 05:31:51 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com
wrote:
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I agree absolutely, we'd have nuked Mecca, Medina, Riyadh, Teheran,
Bagdadh, Kabul, Islamabad, Damascus, Amman, Cairo, and a few others
with 10 kTonners, and then taken over the oil, cut off all trade with
Islamic nations, and blockaded them with booomers, and set about the
systematic destruction of all Mosques on earth by laser-guided bombs
in our own good time, and burying every media outlet in the middle
east with jamming and alternate broadcasts.
Then we'd target ANY and ALL demonstrations in the streets with
fuel-air bombs and fragmentation clusters, and encourage everyone
of the Islamic bent on earth to kill themselves or be converted
to secularism because we are going to gas them to death if they
don't.
Then over the next 50 years we would pacify each small area one
at a time by cordoning it off and killing anyone resisting or who
has a weapon and taking the weapon. Then we would issue IDs and
require every single person to be where we say they should be or
simply execute them if they don't. They will work for themselves
to better their lives and support themselves under OUR direction.
They will not be allowed to go anywhere that hasn't been swept
clean for our safety. We will prefer killing thousands of them
to losing even one of our own.
Their kids will be schooled by us and the homes will be bugged
and monitored randomly for parental brainwashing efforts, which
will be rewarded with immediate execution. In 50 years Islam
would be a filthy word, nothing more. That's what any religion
should get when it can't control its idiots. Any religion that
spreads nonsense and death DESERVES to be OBLITERATED!
So, what's the distinction between Communism and homicidal mania? It's
too subtle for me.
John
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Bees, ants, and termites, dummy."R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message news:<4089F753.7EC9@armory.com>...
Product developer wrote:
This may sound really simple but the perfect model is natural law. The
only collectives you see in nature is in the ant, termite, and bee
species. You don't see chipmunks collecting nuts for a winter
collective for redistribution to the lazy chipmunk's front. It's every
chipmunk for himself.
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Animals who are mechanical/non-conscious, like bees, are merely
programmed. Small mammals who live individually are also simply
instinctive and don't know anything consciously, and thus are so
stupid that they can't manage a systematic communal effort that
would make them much more powerful and secure.
Non-conscious? Programmed? You were out getting high during science
class.
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Whatever we have in the way of instinct it is impossible for us toYou don't think man still operates on instinct along with
acquired learning?
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No, it is instinctual to enjoy those things, it is our evolvedIt is instinctual to compete for food, shelter, and
a mate.
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Just as criminal competition and thievery is suppressed in ALLIn your world all those instinctual acts would have to be
sepressed.
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So?But the animal that is chief species on this planet, homo sapies,
has become so by being smart enough to cooperate and to act as a
group, and they have a reality that is literally a shared mind
among them that they all dwell within mentally.
The cooperation is born of selfish reasoning, survival.
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We're not mechanical insects, we each need what we want, and weNot a need to be equal or just one of the drones.
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Those who dream of being leaders are sociopaths.Those who dream of becoming
leaders rise up out of crowd while enjoying the benefits that the
"group" provided like security, shelter, and in the real world
freedom.
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No one can learn to speak without indoctrination. The only questionWhen individuals of this species are raised without other human
contact they behave like lower degenerated animals with no human
nature, they never learn to talk or express ideas, and they die
very early.
In other words without indoctrination the human relies more on
instinct than social programming. He would act according to natural
law. Survival of the fittest. Case made.
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Competition is only found in damaged children, all the ones who areWhen children bust open a pińata at a birthday party the kid with the
fastest gathering skills gets the booty of candy! The commie kid sits
back lazily and complains that he got nothing because the system was
unfair and favored the rich.
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Nonsense. Communists are as industrious as anyone else. You're merely
propagating a myth that the impoverished uneducated social parasite
is the communist, when they aren't anymore communist than the rich
parasite is. They're just as GREEDY as the rich parasite is, or maybe
even LESS so!
Makes total sense. In your world the other kids would have to take the
greedy kid into custody, redistribute his booty to the less capable,
and send him to a special camp to get his head right. You would have
to brainwash the kid to suppress all natural instinct to compete,
which is the essence of communism.
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Fish can't imagine. They are machines.When fish start acting helpless or lazy they get attacked and eaten.
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Those are sick or dying, they are eaten because they're slow, not
because they have abandoned some "virtue" and aren't doing a good job.
Again, you spew balderdash.
Not true. An inferior fish can be a mutation like we have many, many
of in society today all guised as Democrat special interest groups.
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Ever Googled her to see why she is more hated than any other AmericanIf everyone just took care of themselves ala Ayn Rand everything would
be fine.
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She's dead, she must not have taken very good care of herself.
So is Aristotle. So what?
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Cranks are cranks, great minds aren't cranky, or they'd never doThat's total garbage, and Rand was a fucking crank, just like you.
The greedy always try to wrongly and malevolently justify their greed.
Rand was a genius. Great minds were often "Cranky".
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They pay fine.I would bet it all that if our resident commie wasn't a frustrated
underacheiving misfit and earned a real income, all the goofy, blame
the rich, diatribes would dissapear.
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My income is just fine, thanks. If I thought you were worth it to
prove it to you, your pitifully wrong little political fantasy would
collapse around you like a house of cards.
Are you designing circuits for a collective? I heard they always pay
late.
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I was raised by 2 parents who were married till death, we were middleI would venture to guess you were brought up in a single parent,
low-income household in a bad neighborhood by a dominating mother.
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I have been disappointed in humans all my life, that's NOT MY fault.You never fit in at school and had few if any friends.
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No, I was successful at everything I tried, but there was somethingYour bitterness
grew and you became more reclusive. You searched for answers and found
them reading radical left wing kook doctrines and you found a home
among all the other misfits seeking answers to why they couldn't
compete in a free society. You found that it was much easier to rail
against those "selfish" achievers than to compete against them for
your share of the preverbal pie.
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Gee, not yours!On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 04:56:06 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com
wrote:
Your "vision" is merely your lie. Yours is the delusion of the
slave-master, that his slaves surely love him because they suck
up to him. He never really gets it that they would kill him if
they could get away with it.
Gosh Steve, you don't sound a bit like the model employee.
John
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Communism doesn't ask that, you disingenuous shit."R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message
news:4089F753.7EC9@armory.com...
My income is just fine, thanks. If I thought you were worth it to
prove it to you, your pitifully wrong little political fantasy would
collapse around you like a house of cards.
What? You aren't donating all your income to The People?
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John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 04:56:06 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com
wrote:
Your "vision" is merely your lie. Yours is the delusion of the
slave-master, that his slaves surely love him because they suck
up to him. He never really gets it that they would kill him if
they could get away with it.
Gosh Steve, you don't sound a bit like the model employee.
John
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Gee, not yours!
-Steve
You thought that the thread "OT: Al Franken" started withI think this group has gotten off topic. What the hell
does this have to do with electronics?
Does the group charter even allow off-topic threads?judgejudy wrote...
I think this group has gotten off topic. What the hell
does this have to do with electronics?
You thought that the thread "OT: Al Franken" started with
electronics?
Thanks,
- Win
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And your note, pointing this out, was on-topic in what way?Does the group charter even allow off-topic threads?
Isn't that why alt.politics is available?
He's on the radio.What a bunch of Blow-Farts!
I think this group has gotten off topic. What the hell does this have
to do with electronics?
One can complain to the offenders ISP.maxfoo wrote:
Does the group charter even allow off-topic threads?
Isn't that why alt.politics is available?
And your note, pointing this out, was on-topic in what way?
Seriously, regardless of the group's "charter", the only
controlling authority on unmoderated newsgroups is between
your ears. It is up to you, and you alone, to decide whether
you are going to read, or post a particular message.
-Chuck Harris
Who the hell is "judgejudy"?What a bunch of Blow-Farts!
I think this group has gotten off topic. What the hell does this have
to do with electronics?
Does the group charter even allow off-topic threads?
Isn't that why alt.politics is available?
It isn't really available, unless you don't mind the totallyDoes the group charter even allow off-topic threads?
Isn't that why alt.politics is available?
This is an interesting phenomenon that I've seen before. I have aSo, what's the distinction between Communism and homicidal mania? It's
too subtle for me.
And use bombs to prove it.I think the anarchists expect people to be civilized,
....or designed by someone who thought that someone else should beOn Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:02:36 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
tdnews01@att.net.invalid> wrote:
I think the anarchists expect people to be civilized,
And use bombs to prove it.
Communism is infinitely optimistic, and engages in best-case design. I
wouldn't want to drive over a bridge designed on best-case
assumptions.