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[Fredxx]

On 01/06/2023 07:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 01/06/2023 03:45, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:52:36 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

What happens behind you is not your problem.

It fucking well is if they\'re going to ram you at 60 mph.

For once I can agree with you.
Giving lessons to tailgaters with the handbrake was a favourite trick.
Only let it off when the smoking tyres in the mirror were a foot from
your rear  bumper.

The highway code says you should allow those travelling faster than you
to pass.

These days with dash-cams, it you were hit behind in those circumstances
the car behind would have a valid claim if your brake-lights didn\'t
illuminate.

If they were working and the likely reason for slowing was the handbrake
then you could attract a charge of dangerous driving.

Either way, not a smart move.

 

[SteveW]

On 01/06/2023 07:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 01/06/2023 03:45, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:52:36 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

What happens behind you is not your problem.

It fucking well is if they\'re going to ram you at 60 mph.

For once I can agree with you.
Giving lessons to tailgaters with the handbrake was a favourite trick.
Only let it off when the smoking tyres in the mirror were a foot from
your rear  bumper.

I used to do the opposite. Some mk2 Sierras had the outer red lens as
both brake and tail light, with the inner being the fog light and some
(including mine) had the outer as tail and fog light, with the inner
being the brake light. For mine, clicking the fog light switch on and
then switching the side-lights on, made it look like I was hitting the
brakes to whoever was following too close.

 

[Vir Campestris]

On 11/06/2023 13:45, ARW wrote:

They are only tailgating because you are not driving fast enough

Followed a split arse the other day with main beams and full horn on for
over 6 miles and she never changed lane.

I\'ve often been on a motorway in heavy traffic with somebody tailgating
me. I can\'t go any faster because there is a car in front of me.

I hate motorways.

Andy

 

[Tim+]

ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/06/2023 07:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/06/2023 03:45, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:52:36 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

What happens behind you is not your problem.

It fucking well is if they\'re going to ram you at 60 mph.

For once I can agree with you.
Giving lessons to tailgaters with the handbrake was a favourite trick.
Only let it off when the smoking tyres in the mirror were a foot from
your rear  bumper.



They are only tailgating because you are not driving fast enough

Followed a split arse the other day with main beams and full horn on for
over 6 miles and she never changed lane.

Just back from leftpondia. Once you get used to passing on both sides it
abolishes the issue of idiots hogging the wrong lane. There seem to be
quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully adopted here (but
almost certainly never will be).

Tim

--
Please don\'t feed the trolls

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 11/06/2023 21:46, Vir Campestris wrote:

On 11/06/2023 13:45, ARW wrote:

They are only tailgating because you are not driving fast enough

Followed a split arse the other day with main beams and full horn on
for over 6 miles and she never changed lane.

I\'ve often been on a motorway in heavy traffic with somebody tailgating
me. I can\'t go any faster because there is a car in front of me.

In these cases I irritate the fuck, out of the tailgater by opening up
the gap in front of me to 4-5 car lengths.
In general, if the motorway gets really crowded I will move over into
the \'lorry lane\' where very long braking distances are understood, and
do my 56mph in a relaxed manner.

Aircon, a good stereo and a pen drive full of my music keeps me entirely
happy.

I hate motorways.

I hate crowded motorways. 3 a.m. and no cars and they are a real pleasure.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

 

[Vir Campestris]

On 12/06/2023 10:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 11/06/2023 21:46, Vir Campestris wrote:

I\'ve often been on a motorway in heavy traffic with somebody
tailgating me. I can\'t go any faster because there is a car in front
of me.

In these cases I irritate the fuck, out of the tailgater by opening up
the gap in  front of me to 4-5 car lengths.

I\'ve tried that. It also means that if the vehicle in front does do an
emergency stop you can stop gently enough so the idiot doesn\'t wreck
your car.

In general, if the motorway gets really crowded I will move over into
the \'lorry lane\' where very long braking distances are understood, and
do my 56mph in a relaxed manner.

Aircon, a good stereo and a pen drive full of my music keeps me entirely
happy.

My car is more than 20 years old. No aircon (it was a dealer fit option,
and I should have had it done. When I bought it I had no idea I would
still have it 20 years later) no pen drive, just a CD changer.

B roads, OTOH - it\'s a targa top. We once went on a tour through the
Pyrenees, and decided it was about perfect. Enough luggage space for two
for a fortnight, small enough to fit down the roads, and enough power to
get up the hills.

My wife\'s little shopping trolley car is better on the motorway!

Andy

 

[Ian Jackson]

In message
<1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>,
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes

There seem to be
quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully adopted here (but
almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.

But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

 

[Arie de Muijnck]

On 2023-06-12 14:56, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message <1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>, Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes

There seem to be
quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully adopted here (but
almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.

But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing called \'The Roundabout\') .

Well, they should try this one:
https://www.google.nl/maps/@52.0595773,4.727208,119m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu

I use that one a few times per week, and it really helps, never a long queue.
In the beginning there were some accidents, but we got used to it.
Just be sure to take the proper lane when approaching...

Arie

 

[S Viemeister]

On 12/06/2023 13:56, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message
1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>,
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes


There seem to be
quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully adopted here (but
almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.

But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .

Some parts of the US have had roundabouts, AKA \'traffic circles\' for
decades.

 

[Ian Jackson]

In message <keopp8Fj6o3U1@mid.individual.net>, S Viemeister
<firstname@lastname.oc.ku> writes

On 12/06/2023 13:56, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message
1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>,
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes

There seem to be
quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully adopted here (but
almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.
But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .

Some parts of the US have had roundabouts, AKA \'traffic circles\' for
decades.

Yes, I know - but many drivers still can\'t get the hang of them.
Mini-roundabouts don\'t exist, and they still prefer the \'Four Way Stop\'
<https://www.dmlawusa.com/blog/2022/september/rules-of-a-four-way-stop/>
I understand that these are excellent sites for playing games of
\'Chicken\', and keep the lawyers in constant business with all the
drivers suing each other.
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

 

[SteveW]

On 12/06/2023 16:39, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message <keopp8Fj6o3U1@mid.individual.net>, S Viemeister
firstname@lastname.oc.ku> writes
On 12/06/2023 13:56, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message
1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>, Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes

There seem to be
quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully adopted here (but
almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.
 But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .

Some parts of the US have had roundabouts, AKA \'traffic circles\' for
decades.

Yes, I know - but many drivers still can\'t get the hang of them.

I think that they were initially against the idea, as the first versions
were very different to ours, with cars on the roundabout having to give
way to those entering - leading to no end of chaos and accidents.

Mini-roundabouts don\'t exist, and they still prefer the \'Four Way Stop\'
https://www.dmlawusa.com/blog/2022/september/rules-of-a-four-way-stop/
I understand that these are excellent sites for playing games of
\'Chicken\', and keep the lawyers in constant business with all the
drivers suing each other.

We have one locally (except that it is give-ways) - it used to be a
cross roads, with give-ways on the two side arms and the road without
give-ways was no-entry on one exit. Many people missed that it was
no-entry and carried straight on. The obvious solution was to place a
bollard in that side of the road, but no, the council decided to move
the give-ways onto the other road instead, hoping that it would make
drivers look harder and think more. However, the residents did not want
their give-ways removed, as they felt that traffic would come through
faster, so the council instituted a four-way give-way. Now people from
two, three and occasionally four directions all stop, all decide no one
else is moving, set off and slam to a stop again. It is total chaos.

 

[Mark Lloyd]

On 6/12/23 04:22, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

[snip]

Aircon, a good stereo and a pen drive full of my music keeps me entirely
happy.


I hate motorways.

I hate crowded motorways. 3 a.m. and no cars and they are a real pleasure.

Yes. Driving at night in good weather and no traffic.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

\"We are convinced the masses of evidence render the application of the
concept of evolution to man and the other primates beyond serious
dispute.\"[Pontifical Academy of Sciences]

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 13:56:13 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latham_Circle

It depends on what you mean by \'roundabout\'. The US has had rotaries for
decades. The local government has been on a roundabout kick. Many timid
drivers treat them like a four way stop defeating the purpose, or navigate
them at 15 mph. I treat them as challenging chicanes.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:52:25 +0100, S Viemeister wrote:

On 12/06/2023 13:56, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message
1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>,
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes


There seem to be quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully
adopted here (but almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.

But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .

Some parts of the US have had roundabouts, AKA \'traffic circles\' for
decades.

Some states like New Jersey are phasing them out. They were poorly
designed and increased the accidents although the fender benders tended to
happen at a lower speed. They were a body shop\'s dream.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:39:19 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

Yes, I know - but many drivers still can\'t get the hang of them.
Mini-roundabouts don\'t exist, and they still prefer the \'Four Way Stop\'

Some of the residential intersections have adopted mini-roundabouts.
Essentially you take a normal intersection and plant flowers in the
middle. The flowers tend to have a hard life since you can\'t really
navigate it with anything larger than a passenger car.

Most of the affected intersections were either two-way stops or no stop
signs at all. On narrow residential streets where typical speeds are 25
mph or less drivers seem to have been able to work out negotiating
unsigned intersections without running into each other.

 

[S Viemeister]

On 12/06/2023 17:56, rbowman wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:52:25 +0100, S Viemeister wrote:

On 12/06/2023 13:56, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message
1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>,
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes


There seem to be quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully
adopted here (but almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.

But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .

Some parts of the US have had roundabouts, AKA \'traffic circles\' for
decades.

Some states like New Jersey are phasing them out. They were poorly
designed and increased the accidents although the fender benders tended to
happen at a lower speed. They were a body shop\'s dream.

Some parts of NJ have redesigned, rather than eliminated them - an
example is the Allwood roundabout, in Clifton.

 

[S Viemeister]

On 12/06/2023 17:56, rbowman wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:52:25 +0100, S Viemeister wrote:

On 12/06/2023 13:56, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message
1662384064.708249629.795394.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>,
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> writes


There seem to be quite a few US driving rules that could be usefully
adopted here (but almost certainly never will be).

\'Left turn on red\' (obviously left in the UK) would be one of them.

But what could we offer them in return? I believe the Americans are
rather suspicious of alien imports (especially the new-fangled thing
called \'The Roundabout\') .

Some parts of the US have had roundabouts, AKA \'traffic circles\' for
decades.

Some states like New Jersey are phasing them out. They were poorly
designed and increased the accidents although the fender benders tended to
happen at a lower speed. They were a body shop\'s dream.

Some parts of NJ have redesigned, rather than eliminated them - an
example is the Allwood roundabout, in Clifton.

 

[Peeler]

On 12 Jun 2023 17:03:33 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Some of the residential intersections have adopted mini-roundabouts.
Essentially you take a normal intersection and plant flowers in the
middle. The flowers tend to have a hard life since you can\'t really
navigate it with anything larger than a passenger car.

Yes, the flowers have a hard life hard, you pathological grandiloquent
bullshit artist! LOL

--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 12 Jun 2023 16:56:16 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Some states like New Jersey are phasing them out. They were poorly
designed and increased the accidents although the fender benders tended to
happen at a lower speed. They were a body shop\'s dream.

Do you know of ANY person who loves to hear you talking as much as you love
to hear yourself talking, you deranged senile bigmouth? <BG>

--
Yet another thrilling story from the resident senile gossip\'s thrilling
life:
\"Around here you have to be careful to lock your car toward the end of
summer or somebody will leave a grocery sack full of zucchini in it.\"

 

[Peeler]

On 12 Jun 2023 16:54:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latham_Circle

It depends on what you mean by \'roundabout\'. The US has had rotaries for
decades. The local government has been on a roundabout kick. Many timid
drivers treat them like a four way stop defeating the purpose, or navigate
them at 15 mph. I treat them as challenging chicanes.

\"On a roundabout kick\" \"Timid drivers\"! \"Challenging chicanes\"! Idiotic
bigmouth just CAN\'T, no, it really CAN\'T, talk like a normal person! LMAO

--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>