Mass Starvation Looming On The Horizon...

[corvid]

On 8/2/22 13:18, Fred Bloggs wrote:

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/01/23/look-americas-family-farms


\"Our research found that family farms remain a key part of U.S.
agriculture, making up 98% of all farms and providing 88% of
production. Most farms are small family farms, and they operate
almost half of U.S. farm land, while generating 21% of production.
Midsize and large-scale family farms account for about 66% of
production; and non-family farms represent the remaining 2.1% of
farms and 12% of production.\"
That tells you right there the big farms are way more productive than
the mom and pop farms. One reason is the caliber of farm management.
Another thing they don\'t mention is that a lot of these small farms
can\'t support themselves with the farm so at least one of the owners
works a full time job elsewhere in addition to their farming- that
sort of makes the farming a part time thing. Another thing they\'re
not mentioning is there\'s a lot fraud in farming. There are a lot of
no goods who register as agricultural for purposes of tax breaks,
subsidies, and getting paid NOT TO GROW anything. Then there are a
bunch of government subsidized crop insurance scams going. Nothing
beats insuring a bottom land crop near a river and having a flood
wipe it all out. You get paid on some per acre yield of the crop
without having to lift a finger.

USDA does mention part of that.

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2010/05/18/small-farms-big-differences

\"In fact, all of the growth occurred among farms under $1,000 in sales.
These are classified as farms so long as they have enough land or
livestock to generate $1000, whether or not actual sales reach that
level. Most of these operations are better described as rural
residences; the households on these farms – and on many other small
farms – rely heavily on off-farm income.\"

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 13:00:34 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in
<b3430621-cdd2-4091-93d8-986a4f7b9e35n@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:03:55 PM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs

bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

First food prices start to rise, then become unaffordable for most, then

finally food is just plain inaccessible- shelves are all empty. It should
be
obvious how this is going to play out.

Threat of =3DE2=3D80=3D98heatflation=3DE2=3D80=3D99 looms large as climate
change shrinks
farm and seafood output, experts say

https://www.scmp.com/business/article/3186994/threat-heatflation-looms-large-climate-change-shrinks-farm-and-seafood



Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no weathering
this
one.
The main food problem in the USA is obesity.

Crop yields and food production continue to increase; look it up.

Those so-called yields are artificial and will be short-lived. The agricultural

industry is using vast amounts of herbicide (glyphosate) in combination

with GMO crops, over application of fertilizer ( which will be depleted in

about 15 years), tons of so-called systemic pesticide seed and spray treatments,

surprisingly huge amounts of plastic that isn\'t recycled, and oceans
of water use. There are many, many more dangerous downsides to this miracle

of modern agriculture, which is a totally fake claim. Every one of those

is an unsustainable destruction of the environment as well as killing a lot

of people. Climate change is exacerbating the necessity of these bad practices

because of insect pestilence, amplification of competing weed growth,
drought, floods, and hellishly high temperatures which drive crop transpiration

to the breaking point.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/glyphosate-roundup-urine-samples-bayer-monsanto-weed-killing-chemical/




Birth rates in developed countries are down. Farm automation is
replacing all those kids who move to cities and work for google.

That\'s a really wacky view of farm life and kids. Most of those so-called
kids
from farm country aren\'t suitable for farm work, they\'re just future premature

deaths from drug abuse. The drug abuse problem in rural areas of this
country is horrendous.


There are places in the world where people are starving. Their problem

is bad politics, not climate change.

Not even close to reality! Their problem is overpopulation in combination
with
mismanagement of resources and climate change.


Climate change is greening the
planet and increasing crop yields.

That\'s an insane misunderstanding of reality. You\'re knowledge of the situation

is what\'s called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make an appointment

with your GP and tell him/her your prescription drug regimen is making

you insane.
There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.
Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting, blocking highways
and roads
so supermarkets cannot be supplied and shelves are empty..
The EU green political fanatics reason that cows produce CO2 or something
like that
and want to kill them all it seems.
They think climate change is human made.
However climate change is caused by earth orbit variations, neatly described
here:
http://old.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_al3b.htm
Milankovitch cycles
If you do a google for those cyclic temperature changes you see that at times
CO2 lagged the warm periods.
So it is all political play using clueless green fanatic kids that have been
brainwashed by Al Gore
and his polar bear club...
What we should do is bring all the nuclear power on line we can and put aircos
in all houses
(hardly any in Europe have those) so we can stay as long as possible,
after that we\'d have to move to Siberia where it is cool and kindly ask for
Russian citizenship

Those crazy sun cycles are way long cycles and we\'re not near any of them. The
eccentricity of our current orbit is a fraction of a percent (IIRC) of what
those worst case cycles allow, and as of now the distance from sun to earth
varies by less than 3 million miles summer to winter. The MUCH MUCH stronger
effect is the Earth tilting on its axis.
Like it or not the most significant influence that\'s warming the Earth and pushing
the climate to a state of uninhabitability by mankind is excessive greenhouse
gas emissions. You can\'t possibly dispute the Earth\'s energy imbalance-
that\'s a pretty simple concept to understand- it was very difficult
to measure but they finally did it with space based instrumentation. The imbalance
will cause the planet to heat to enough of a temperature differential
for the heat to escape despite the impedance of atmospheric absorption by
the greenhouse gases, a new equilibrium that won\'t be reached if they keep
adding more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.
There are too many people, nature is being overdrawn, it is a collective suicide
whether there is global warming or not.

Well, that is a dark picture you show.
Sure ... the next species .. if any ... will be more adapted...
But now we need to get rid of the green fanatics and make sure we have the technology to
stay alive, and that means nuclear.
THE MARKET FOR AIRCOS IN EUROPE IS A BIG ONE NOTE!!! (for the industry and investors)

Technology is our means of living through changes
Not brainless green fearful idiots like Merkel in Germany that did shut down nuclear power plants.

Think about that wind energy nonsense .. imagine those few windmills directly driving car wheels
so no losses... ALL THE CARS plus all cooking and heating and cooling..
DAFT!!! They want to go electric cars in a few years.
Somebody should lock up them green anti science weaning polar bear infected puppets!!
No
We are entering the dark ages .. no science .. THAT would be our destruction
Technology CAN save us as species, and in the long run we need nuclear propulsion
to reach other planets too!
Start NOW

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a
<manta103g@gmail.com> wrote in
<24de3336-7ea8-4dec-b35a-83c18fb1554an@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 19:03:55 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs

bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com

wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

First food prices start to rise, then become unaffordable for most, then

finally food is just plain inaccessible- shelves are all empty. It should
be
obvious how this is going to play out.

Threat of =3DE2=3D80=3D98heatflation=3DE2=3D80=3D99 looms large as climate
change shrinks
farm and seafood output, experts say

https://www.scmp.com/business/article/3186994/threat-heatflation-looms-large-climate-change-shrinks-farm-and-seafood



Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no weathering
this
one.
The main food problem in the USA is obesity.

Crop yields and food production continue to increase; look it up.

Those so-called yields are artificial and will be short-lived. The agricultural

industry is using vast amounts of herbicide (glyphosate) in combination

with GMO crops, over application of fertilizer ( which will be depleted in

about 15 years), tons of so-called systemic pesticide seed and spray treatments,

surprisingly huge amounts of plastic that isn\'t recycled, and oceans
of water use. There are many, many more dangerous downsides to this miracle

of modern agriculture, which is a totally fake claim. Every one of those

is an unsustainable destruction of the environment as well as killing a lot

of people. Climate change is exacerbating the necessity of these bad practices

because of insect pestilence, amplification of competing weed growth,
drought, floods, and hellishly high temperatures which drive crop transpiration

to the breaking point.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/glyphosate-roundup-urine-samples-bayer-monsanto-weed-killing-chemical/




Birth rates in developed countries are down. Farm automation is
replacing all those kids who move to cities and work for google.

That\'s a really wacky view of farm life and kids. Most of those so-called
kids
from farm country aren\'t suitable for farm work, they\'re just future premature

deaths from drug abuse. The drug abuse problem in rural areas of this
country is horrendous.


There are places in the world where people are starving. Their problem

is bad politics, not climate change.

Not even close to reality! Their problem is overpopulation in combination
with
mismanagement of resources and climate change.


Climate change is greening the
planet and increasing crop yields.

That\'s an insane misunderstanding of reality. You\'re knowledge of the situation

is what\'s called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make an appointment

with your GP and tell him/her your prescription drug regimen is making

you insane.
There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.
Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting, blocking highways
and roads
so supermarkets cannot be supplied and shelves are empty..
The EU green political fanatics reason that cows produce CO2 or something
like that
and want to kill them all it seems.
They think climate change is human made.
However climate change is caused by earth orbit variations, neatly described
here:
http://old.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_al3b.htm
Milankovitch cycles
If you do a google for those cyclic temperature changes you see that at times
CO2 lagged the warm periods.
So it is all political play using clueless green fanatic kids that have been
brainwashed by Al Gore
and his polar bear club...
What we should do is bring all the nuclear power on line we can and put aircos
in all houses
(hardly any in Europe have those) so we can stay as long as possible,
after that we\'d have to move to Siberia where it is cool and kindly ask for
Russian citizenship
1-year Short-Term Climate Changes
are due to fluctuations in solar activity,
called coronary mass ejections (CME)

Coronal Mass Ejections

Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) are large expulsions of plasma and magnetic field
from the Sun=E2=80=99s corona. They can eject billions of tons of coronal
material and carry an embedded magnetic field (frozen in flux) that is stronger
than the background solar wind interplanetary magnetic field (IMF)
strength. CMEs travel outward from the Sun at speeds ranging from slower than
250 kilometers per second (km/s) to as fast as near 3000 km/s. The fastest
Earth-directed CMEs can reach our planet in as little as 15-18 hours. Slower
CMEs can take several days to arrive. They expand in size as they propagate
away from the Sun and larger CMEs can reach a size comprising nearly
a quarter of the space between Earth and the Sun by the time it reaches our
planet.

The more explosive CMEs generally begin when highly twisted magnetic field structures
(flux ropes) contained in the Sun=E2=80=99s lower corona become too
stressed and realign into a less tense configuration =E2=80=93 a process
called magnetic reconnection. This can result in the sudden release of electromagnetic
energy in the form of a solar flare; which typically accompanies
the explosive acceleration of plasma away from the Sun =E2=80=93 the CME.
These types of CMEs usually take place from areas of the Sun with localized
fields of strong and stressed magnetic flux; such as active regions associated
with sunspot groups. CMEs can also occur from locations where relatively
cool and denser plasma is trapped and suspended by magnetic flux extending
up to the inner corona - filaments and prominences. When these flux ropes
reconfigure, the denser filament or prominence can collapse back to the
solar surface and be quietly reabsorbed, or a CME may result. CMEs travelling
faster than the background solar wind speed can generate a shock wave.
These shock waves can accelerate charged particles ahead of them =E2=80=93
causing increased radiation storm potential or intensity.

Important CME parameters used in analysis are size, speed, and direction. These
properties are inferred from orbital satellites=E2=80=99 coronagraph imagery
by SWPC forecasters to determine any Earth-impact likelihood. The NASA
Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) carries a coronagraph =E2=80=93
known as the Large Angle and Spectrometric Coronagraph (LASCO). This instrument
has two ranges for optical imaging of the Sun=E2=80=99s corona: C2
(covers distance range of 1.5 to 6 solar radii) and C3 (range of 3 to 32 solar
radii). The LASCO instrument is currently the primary means used by forecasters
to analyze and categorize CMEs; however another coronagraph is on
the NASA STEREO-A spacecraft as an additional source.

Imminent CME arrival is first observed by the Deep Space Climate Observatory
(DSCOVR) satellite, located at the L1 orbital area. Sudden increases in density,
total interplanetary magnetic field (IMF) strength, and solar wind speed
at the DSCOVR spacecraft indicate arrival of the CME-associated interplanetary
shock ahead of the magnetic cloud. This can often provide 15 to 60
minutes advanced warning of shock arrival at Earth =E2=80=93 and any possible
sudden impulse or sudden storm commencement; as registered by Earth-based
magnetometers.

Important aspects of an arriving CME and its likelihood for causing more intense
geomagnetic storming include the strength and direction of the IMF beginning
with shock arrival, followed by arrival and passage of the plasma cloud
and frozen-in-flux magnetic field. More intense levels of geomagnetic storming
are favored when the CME enhanced IMF becomes more pronounced and prolonged
in a south-directed orientation. Some CMEs show predominantly one
direction of the magnetic field during its passage, while most exhibit changing
field directions as the CME passes over Earth. Generally, CMEs that impact
Earth=E2=80=99s magnetosphere will at some point have an IMF orientation
that favors generation of geomagnetic storming. Geomagnetic storms are classified
using a five-level NOAA Space Weather Scale. SWPC forecasters discuss
analysis and geomagnetic storm potential of CMEs in the forecast discussion
and predict levels of geomagnetic storming in the 3-day forecast.

*Images courtesy of NASA and the SOHO and STEREO missions
Tags:
phenomenon
Earth Sun Relationship:
near_sun


https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/coronal-mass-ejections

Yup, we need good tech to survive nature\'s plays.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
<64b60791-65dd-49ba-a9c9-b417b921ae3fn@googlegroups.com>:

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:03:55 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in <da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com
wrote:

snip

Climate change is greening the planet and increasing crop yields.

That\'s an insane misunderstanding of reality. You\'re knowledge of the situation
is what\'s called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make an
appointment
with your GP and tell him/her your prescription drug regimen is making you insane.


There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.

There aren\'t.

Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting, blocking highways
and roads so supermarkets cannot be supplied and shelves are empty..
The EU green political fanatics reason that cows produce CO2 or something
like that and want to kill them all it seems.

The problem is that the Netherlands raise lots of cows and pigs in very confined
areas, and al those cows and pigs piss out urea, which contaminates the
soil and the ground-water in the area

Technology, you can feed that PISS into the same sewage system that is used for us humans
There are a LOT more humans here though so it would be hardly noticed.
Greens are anti-technology because they have no clue
Just like you and your >>> quoting!!!

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:34:06 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <64b60791-65dd-49ba...@googlegroups.com>:
On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:03:55 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in <da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:
On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred....@gmail.com> wrote:

snip

There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.

There aren\'t.

Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting, blocking highways and roads so supermarkets cannot be supplied and shelves are empty. The EU green political fanatics reason that cows produce CO2 or something like that and want to kill them all it seems.

The problem is that the Netherlands raise lots of cows and pigs in very confined areas, and al those cows and pigs piss out urea, which contaminates the soil and the ground-water in the area.

Technology, you can feed that PISS into the same sewage system that is used for us humans.

Perhaps you could but they don\'t. The big sewage process plants are close to place with lots of humans, rather than lots of arm animals.

> There are a LOT more humans here though so it would be hardly noticed.

There are 12 million pigs in the Netherlands, and 1.6 millions cows (who produce ten times a much piss per individual as humans). The human population of the Netherlands is some 17 million people, so it would more than double the load on the sewage system, and probably would be noticed.

> Greens are anti-technology because they have no clue.

Not that Jan seems to have much of clue himself.

> Just like you and your >>> quoting!!!

I wonder what he was getting wrong there?

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Don Y]

On 8/2/2022 1:18 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 1:07:56 PM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:
On 8/2/2022 9:56 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/02/2022 05:35 AM, Don Y wrote:
On 8/1/2022 7:39 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. There will be no
weathering this one.

Gotta feel sorry for all those red state farmers who\'ll likely be
losing the family farm in the years to come. No, it can\'t possibly be
*climate* to blame! They\'re just bad farmers, right? :

Not many of those left unless you consider Cargill to be a family.
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/01/23/look-americas-family-farms

\"Our research found that family farms remain a key part of U.S.
agriculture, making up 98% of all farms and providing 88% of production.
Most farms are small family farms, and they operate almost half of U.S.
farm land, while generating 21% of production. Midsize and large-scale
family farms account for about 66% of production; and non-family farms
represent the remaining 2.1% of farms and 12% of production.\"

That tells you right there the big farms are way more productive than the
mom and pop farms. One reason is the caliber of farm management. Another
thing they don\'t mention is that a lot of these small farms can\'t support
themselves with the farm so at least one of the owners works a full time job
elsewhere in addition to their farming- that sort of makes the farming a
part time thing. Another thing they\'re not mentioning is there\'s a lot fraud
in farming. There are a lot of no goods who register as agricultural for
purposes of tax breaks, subsidies, and getting paid NOT TO GROW anything.

Yeah, I recall our scout troop spending a weekend harvesting fruit from an
orchard -- then discarding it! But, it allowed the landowner to claim the
land had been \"actively farmed\". Despicable. (yet most folks had no idea this
was the intent nor that it had, indeed, happened!)

Then there are a bunch of government subsidized crop insurance scams going.
Nothing beats insuring a bottom land crop near a river and having a flood
wipe it all out. You get paid on some per acre yield of the crop without
having to lift a finger.

Regardless of how effective your *management* techniques, if the crop
won\'t grow due to environmental/climate conditions, the end result
is unchanged.

Yet another right wing \"tree hugger\" who\'ll set up a solar or wind farm
to try to reclaim some of the value of his land (and sell the farm equipment
to someone who is a \"good\" farmer -- ha!). Heck, he may even switch to
driving an electric vehicle instead of his diesel pickup...

 

[rbowman]

On 08/02/2022 10:21 PM, corvid wrote:

On 8/2/22 13:18, Fred Bloggs wrote:
https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/01/23/look-americas-family-farms


\"Our research found that family farms remain a key part of U.S.
agriculture, making up 98% of all farms and providing 88% of
production. Most farms are small family farms, and they operate
almost half of U.S. farm land, while generating 21% of production.
Midsize and large-scale family farms account for about 66% of
production; and non-family farms represent the remaining 2.1% of
farms and 12% of production.\"
That tells you right there the big farms are way more productive than
the mom and pop farms. One reason is the caliber of farm management.
Another thing they don\'t mention is that a lot of these small farms
can\'t support themselves with the farm so at least one of the owners
works a full time job elsewhere in addition to their farming- that
sort of makes the farming a part time thing. Another thing they\'re
not mentioning is there\'s a lot fraud in farming. There are a lot of
no goods who register as agricultural for purposes of tax breaks,
subsidies, and getting paid NOT TO GROW anything. Then there are a
bunch of government subsidized crop insurance scams going. Nothing
beats insuring a bottom land crop near a river and having a flood
wipe it all out. You get paid on some per acre yield of the crop
without having to lift a finger.

USDA does mention part of that.

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2010/05/18/small-farms-big-differences

\"In fact, all of the growth occurred among farms under $1,000 in sales.
These are classified as farms so long as they have enough land or
livestock to generate $1000, whether or not actual sales reach that
level. Most of these operations are better described as rural
residences; the households on these farms – and on many other small
farms – rely heavily on off-farm income.\"

As Earl Butz said during the Johnson administration, \'Get big or get
out.\' He also had the insight that cheap food is very important to keep
the natives from getting restless. Too bad about that \'loose shoes,
tight pussy, and a warm place to shit\' crack that got him fired. Too
much candor can be fatal to a politician.

 

[rbowman]

On 08/02/2022 11:33 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
64b60791-65dd-49ba-a9c9-b417b921ae3fn@googlegroups.com>:

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:03:55 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in <da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com
wrote:

snip

Climate change is greening the planet and increasing crop yields.

That\'s an insane misunderstanding of reality. You\'re knowledge of the situation
is what\'s called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make an
appointment
with your GP and tell him/her your prescription drug regimen is making you insane.


There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.

There aren\'t.

Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting, blocking highways
and roads so supermarkets cannot be supplied and shelves are empty..
The EU green political fanatics reason that cows produce CO2 or something
like that and want to kill them all it seems.

The problem is that the Netherlands raise lots of cows and pigs in very confined
areas, and al those cows and pigs piss out urea, which contaminates the
soil and the ground-water in the area

Technology, you can feed that PISS into the same sewage system that is used for us humans
There are a LOT more humans here though so it would be hardly noticed.
Greens are anti-technology because they have no clue
Just like you and your >>> quoting!!!

Ever try to housebreak a cow? Parenthetically one of the loudest voices
against storing nuclear waste in Nevada was a dairy farmer who had been
cited several times for polluting the ground water with his dairy
operation.

 

[Jeroen Belleman]

On 2022-08-03 16:27, rbowman wrote:

On 08/02/2022 11:33 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
64b60791-65dd-49ba-a9c9-b417b921ae3fn@googlegroups.com>:

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:03:55 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje
wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it
happened Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com
wrote:

snip

Climate change is greening the planet and increasing crop
yields.

That\'s an insane misunderstanding of reality. You\'re
knowledge of the situation
is what\'s called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make
an appointment with your GP and tell him/her your prescription
drug regimen is making you insane.


There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.

There aren\'t.

Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting,
blocking highways and roads so supermarkets cannot be supplied
and shelves are empty.. The EU green political fanatics reason
that cows produce CO2 or something
like that and want to kill them all it seems.

The problem is that the Netherlands raise lots of cows and pigs
in very confined areas, and al those cows and pigs piss out urea,
which contaminates the soil and the ground-water in the area

Technology, you can feed that PISS into the same sewage system that
is used for us humans There are a LOT more humans here though so it
would be hardly noticed. Greens are anti-technology because they
have no clue Just like you and your >>> quoting!!!


Ever try to housebreak a cow? Parenthetically one of the loudest
voices against storing nuclear waste in Nevada was a dairy farmer who
had been cited several times for polluting the ground water with his
dairy operation.

There are close to 4M cattle in the Netherlands, over 11M pigs and
100M poultry. Those numbers are not negligible!

Jeroen Belleman

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 3 Aug 2022 08:27:48 -0600) it happened rbowman
<bowman@montana.com> wrote in <jkvev7Fs2oU1@mid.individual.net>:

On 08/02/2022 11:33 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony
William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
64b60791-65dd-49ba-a9c9-b417b921ae3fn@googlegroups.com>:

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:03:55 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in <da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com
wrote:

snip

Climate change is greening the planet and increasing crop yields.

That\'s an insane misunderstanding of reality. You\'re knowledge of the situation
is what\'s called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make an
appointment
with your GP and tell him/her your prescription drug regimen is making you insane.


There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.

There aren\'t.

Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting, blocking highways
and roads so supermarkets cannot be supplied and shelves are empty..
The EU green political fanatics reason that cows produce CO2 or something
like that and want to kill them all it seems.

The problem is that the Netherlands raise lots of cows and pigs in very confined
areas, and al those cows and pigs piss out urea, which contaminates the
soil and the ground-water in the area

Technology, you can feed that PISS into the same sewage system that is used for us humans
There are a LOT more humans here though so it would be hardly noticed.
Greens are anti-technology because they have no clue
Just like you and your >>> quoting!!!


Ever try to housebreak a cow? Parenthetically one of the loudest voices
against storing nuclear waste in Nevada was a dairy farmer who had been
cited several times for polluting the ground water with his dairy
operation.

Yea pollution like caused by fracking is much worse,
there are several examples and have been several lawsuits against industry killing people
by dumping stuff
You won\'t die from cow shit, good fertilizer,

Then they might as well shoot all dogs... more dogs than cattle in the cities
and those leave their mark everywhere.
Man! and just this week horse shit on the roads here, those recreational
horse riders do not clean up their shit either.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:54:25 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
<jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <tce26v$1o3k$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

On 2022-08-03 16:27, rbowman wrote:
On 08/02/2022 11:33 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)) it happened
Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
64b60791-65dd-49ba-a9c9-b417b921ae3fn@googlegroups.com>:

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:03:55 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje
wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it
happened Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote in
da608dbf-e0b7-44e2...@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:10:09 AM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com
wrote:

snip

Climate change is greening the planet and increasing crop
yields.

That\'s an insane misunderstanding of reality. You\'re
knowledge of the situation
is what\'s called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make
an appointment with your GP and tell him/her your prescription
drug regimen is making you insane.


There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.

There aren\'t.

Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting,
blocking highways and roads so supermarkets cannot be supplied
and shelves are empty.. The EU green political fanatics reason
that cows produce CO2 or something
like that and want to kill them all it seems.

The problem is that the Netherlands raise lots of cows and pigs
in very confined areas, and al those cows and pigs piss out urea,
which contaminates the soil and the ground-water in the area

Technology, you can feed that PISS into the same sewage system that
is used for us humans There are a LOT more humans here though so it
would be hardly noticed. Greens are anti-technology because they
have no clue Just like you and your >>> quoting!!!


Ever try to housebreak a cow? Parenthetically one of the loudest
voices against storing nuclear waste in Nevada was a dairy farmer who
had been cited several times for polluting the ground water with his
dairy operation.

There are close to 4M cattle in the Netherlands, over 11M pigs and
100M poultry. Those numbers are not negligible!

Jeroen Belleman

Do those 11M include politicians?

 

[Bob Engelhardt]

On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
> Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density - \"overpopulated\"
isn\'t the problem. Grossly over-indulged is the problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-density

 

[server]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 08:51:18 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
<BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> wrote:

On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density - \"overpopulated\"
isn\'t the problem. Grossly over-indulged is the problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-density

The USA is mostly a nice place. Some inner cities are bad, and in
general there are too many SUVs.

Productive people do indulge themeslves and their kids, and the UAS is
high on productivity.

I just read that here\'s a sugar shortage in Cuba.

Sugar. Cuba. Next there will be a sand shortage in Syria and an ice
shortage in Siberia.

There\'s already a woman shortage in China.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, August 5, 2022 at 12:03:37 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 08:51:18 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
BobEng...@comcast.net> wrote:

On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density - \"overpopulated\"
isn\'t the problem. Grossly over-indulged is the problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-density
The USA is mostly a nice place. Some inner cities are bad, and in
general there are too many SUVs.

Productive people do indulge themselves and their kids, and the USA is
high on productivity.

Not all that high. They do sub-contract a lot of production to places where human labour is cheaper - mostly China in recent years.

The USA is mostly rich - well endowed with natural resources, and it\'s population density is a low (about a tenth of Europe\'s) so the people mostly don\'t get in the way of exploiting them. Australia has an even lower population density and much the same sort of natural resources.

I just read that here\'s a sugar shortage in Cuba.

Sugar. Cuba. Next there will be a sand shortage in Syria and an ice shortage in Siberia.

Probably not.

> There\'s already a woman shortage in China.

The one child policy had some unfortunate side effects.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 8:51:25 AM UTC-4, bobenge...@gmail.com wrote:

On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density - \"overpopulated\"
isn\'t the problem. Grossly over-indulged is the problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-density

Looks like they\'re listing population per unit of land of the entire country. Of course that\'s going to be misleading. Below is another table of urban population density, population per unit of land within the city, derived from 2006 data, it\'s much worse now. U.S. has 140 million people crammed into its cities, and the urban population density is right up there with China and India.
http://demographia.com/db-intlua-area2000.htm
So there you have it, an overindulged population crammed into cities like sardines.

 

[server]

Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> wrote in
news:ahPGK.558952$vAW9.367489@fx10.iad:

On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density -
\"overpopulated\" isn\'t the problem. Grossly over-indulged is the
problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-den
sity

And also definitely over cult dopeshit indulged, sports bar
dumbshit indulged and militant idiot indulged.

We don\'t need bear spray and tasers to deal with these idiotds. We
need to hit them with a curare dart so they can then lay there
conscious but unable to move, even as they get added to the alligator
pit odr get made into bait for the feral hog trap pits.

The way they act, it is exactly what they deserve.

 

[server]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:r4knehpm4r2lb20drc6d12d91r6r0umpv3@4ax.com:

Sugar. Cuba. Next there will be a sand shortage in Syria and an ice
shortage in Siberia.

There\'s already a woman shortage in China.

There is most definitely a functional neuron shortage in John
Larkin\'s skull cavity. That\'s for sure.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 18:38:34 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:r4knehpm4r2lb20drc6d12d91r6r0umpv3@4ax.com:

Sugar. Cuba. Next there will be a sand shortage in Syria and an ice
shortage in Siberia.

There\'s already a woman shortage in China.


There is most definitely a functional neuron shortage in John
Larkin\'s skull cavity. That\'s for sure.

I don\'t mind that as long as I have women.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 10:04:24 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 8:51:25 AM UTC-4, bobenge...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density - \"overpopulated\"
isn\'t the problem. Grossly over-indulged is the problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-density

Looks like they\'re listing population per unit of land of the entire country. Of course that\'s going to be misleading. Below is another table of urban population density, population per unit of land within the city, derived from 2006 data, it\'s much worse now. U.S. has 140 million people crammed into its cities, and the urban population density is right up there with China and India.
http://demographia.com/db-intlua-area2000.htm
So there you have it, an overindulged population crammed into cities like sardines.

The cramming was mostly voluntary. Young things graduating from tiny
college dorms into tiny high-rise apartments.

City densities have dropped lately. SF is down about 5%, which makes a
difference. I think more people are liking the idea of moving to a
quieter, greener place.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 18:35:22 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net> wrote in
news:ahPGK.558952$vAW9.367489@fx10.iad:

On 8/1/2022 10:12 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
[...]
Too bad the U.S. is grossly overpopulated. [...]

It\'s 177th out of 234 countries in population density -
\"overpopulated\" isn\'t the problem. Grossly over-indulged is the
problem.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-den
sity


And also definitely over cult dopeshit indulged, sports bar
dumbshit indulged and militant idiot indulged.

We don\'t need bear spray and tasers to deal with these idiotds. We
need to hit them with a curare dart so they can then lay there
conscious but unable to move, even as they get added to the alligator
pit odr get made into bait for the feral hog trap pits.

The way they act, it is exactly what they deserve.

Just because some kid is a shallow airhead who orders bad beer is no
reason to kill them.