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On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck, demanding
to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I guess
includes himself.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views when
on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations and decisions
based on those onservations, and this person observed criminal
behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-encourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think you're
gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck, demanding
to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I guess
includes himself.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
M
Michael Terrell
Guest
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 11:59:31 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
The entire military thanks you for not wasting their time of trying to enlist. You would have never made it through Basic, anyway.
On 10/11/19 6:57 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:6CVnF.56663$621.34102@fx38.iad:
On 10/11/19 1:12 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 12:32:45 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time
had somewhat different ideas about who actually runs the
country vs. The People and their elected representatives.
That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater
in that he shares quite a number of their same attitudes
but has the audacity to be about 10% radically different
opinions in certain areas isn't too surprising, either.
"not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have
evolved into power centers with their own amoral political
interests and no affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the
Constitution, and to defend the United States against all
enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are
discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash
America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but
their family members did, to be on the same level of
'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most
were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly
in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no
Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one
grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants
me to answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you
expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during
WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to
serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five
4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered
the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted
like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a
strong sense of Duty.
Only fights going on at the time I was 18 were started by Bill
Clinton against destitute 3rd world countries, and the only
fights going on when I was 25 were against some more destitute
3rd world countries whose citizens never did anything to us. The
territory of the United States or its population was never in
the slightest danger aside from a terrorist attack that could
have been prevented aside from the US government's own miserable
incompetence.
Where was the "Duty" in any of that? One of Trump's own points
of policy was that there wasn't any.
You are truly stupid. You have no idea of how the Military works.
It is above your pay grade and it always will be.
Good luck to ya, fella. I've had the honor of hearing the
experiences of many more interesting and accomplished service
members than you and your boring, attention-seeking old rambles
about the only thing you ever did.
Far out, man. I could not have put it better.
And these are the same dopes with the incorrect mindset and zero
grasp about just what a "domestic enemy" is.
His brain is bent. The thing Terrell is still trying to steal
isn't valor, but nonetheless, he will never get there.
Karma is a bitch.
My father probably would have disowned me if the only reason I enlisted
was because a shit-talking president from FUCKING NYC of all places, on
TV playing golf 1/3rd of the time wanted me to.
The entire military thanks you for not wasting their time of trying to enlist. You would have never made it through Basic, anyway.
Guest
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:49:45 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
I don't matter. Electronics design does. Try some.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vc81qelf8otalfvom2erpkkaq4t3cgoukt@4ax.com:
Design your own circuits, and your own insults. You are copying
Sloman, which is really getting down there.
Nice try, child. I am nothing like sloman in my observations of
you and my descriptive statements about you are just that.
I don't matter. Electronics design does. Try some.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
Guest
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vc81qelf8otalfvom2erpkkaq4t3cgoukt@4ax.com:
Nice try, child. I am nothing like sloman in my observations of
you and my descriptive statements about you are just that. A mine
and b descriptive. If I start insulting you, you will know it. And
those we all know do not match Sloman's either.
Damn, I did not think it was possible, but you are more stupid than
Trump is when you get Tossed in RoastNet.
He is just starting to flail about. Wait till next week. Today he
flounders... tomorrow he founders...
Maybe you could rinse him off in your vapor phase degreaser!
news:vc81qelf8otalfvom2erpkkaq4t3cgoukt@4ax.com:
Design your own circuits, and your own insults. You are copying
Sloman, which is really getting down there.
Nice try, child. I am nothing like sloman in my observations of
you and my descriptive statements about you are just that. A mine
and b descriptive. If I start insulting you, you will know it. And
those we all know do not match Sloman's either.
Damn, I did not think it was possible, but you are more stupid than
Trump is when you get Tossed in RoastNet.
He is just starting to flail about. Wait till next week. Today he
flounders... tomorrow he founders...
Maybe you could rinse him off in your vapor phase degreaser!
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 6:57 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
My father probably would have disowned me if the only reason I enlisted
was because a shit-talking president from FUCKING NYC of all places, on
TV playing golf 1/3rd of the time wanted me to.
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:6CVnF.56663$621.34102@fx38.iad:
On 10/11/19 1:12 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 12:32:45 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time
had somewhat different ideas about who actually runs the
country vs. The People and their elected representatives.
That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater
in that he shares quite a number of their same attitudes
but has the audacity to be about 10% radically different
opinions in certain areas isn't too surprising, either.
"not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have
evolved into power centers with their own amoral political
interests and no affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the
Constitution, and to defend the United States against all
enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are
discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash
America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but
their family members did, to be on the same level of
'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most
were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly
in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no
Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one
grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants
me to answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you
expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during
WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to
serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five
4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered
the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted
like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a
strong sense of Duty.
Only fights going on at the time I was 18 were started by Bill
Clinton against destitute 3rd world countries, and the only
fights going on when I was 25 were against some more destitute
3rd world countries whose citizens never did anything to us. The
territory of the United States or its population was never in
the slightest danger aside from a terrorist attack that could
have been prevented aside from the US government's own miserable
incompetence.
Where was the "Duty" in any of that? One of Trump's own points
of policy was that there wasn't any.
You are truly stupid. You have no idea of how the Military works.
It is above your pay grade and it always will be.
Good luck to ya, fella. I've had the honor of hearing the
experiences of many more interesting and accomplished service
members than you and your boring, attention-seeking old rambles
about the only thing you ever did.
Far out, man. I could not have put it better.
And these are the same dopes with the incorrect mindset and zero
grasp about just what a "domestic enemy" is.
His brain is bent. The thing Terrell is still trying to steal
isn't valor, but nonetheless, he will never get there.
Karma is a bitch.
My father probably would have disowned me if the only reason I enlisted
was because a shit-talking president from FUCKING NYC of all places, on
TV playing golf 1/3rd of the time wanted me to.
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 9:13 AM, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
Most of the young people I know who enlisted in the military or National
Guard have done so primarily for the money or the college educational
funding you get, it's one of the better jobs a say 25 y/o with no
college experience can get in many (most) areas of the country.
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 11:45:45 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
More than half of the veterans who've served in combat I've known
personally were liberals/Democrats, sooooo.....
I suspect the veterans that you know are not representative of all veterans.
Dan
Most of the young people I know who enlisted in the military or National
Guard have done so primarily for the money or the college educational
funding you get, it's one of the better jobs a say 25 y/o with no
college experience can get in many (most) areas of the country.
Guest
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
As if. The SS reports to the President.
As much as you would enjoy a coup, it's improbable.
Relax. He'll be termed out in 5 years.
I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vg61qe9jbhj5n8t9fk9sn9en3inbiaga0b@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their
commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views
when on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations
and decisions based on those onservations, and this person
observed criminal behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet
him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-e
ncourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think
you're gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck,
demanding to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I
guess includes himself..
It will more likely be an 'inside job' Elements of the Secret
Service would be ordered to carry out arrests, and when Trump
complains, he'll likely go under house arrest as well. "For his own
protection".
As if. The SS reports to the President.
As much as you would enjoy a coup, it's improbable.
Relax. He'll be termed out in 5 years.
I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 12:28 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
There's a logistical problem about the whole 5 more years thing in that
he's already fired or had resign everyone with some vaguely legitimate
qualifications who actually wanted to work with him in the span of 3.
And they're continuing to bail right this very moment.
In the Republican party there isn't an infinite pool of non-morons to
draw from for the staffing. If the administration manages to stumble
thru the current issues wait until you see what the next round of
barrel-bottom public servants manage to get themselves wrapped up in...
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vg61qe9jbhj5n8t9fk9sn9en3inbiaga0b@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their
commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views
when on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations
and decisions based on those onservations, and this person
observed criminal behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet
him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-e
ncourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think
you're gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck,
demanding to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I
guess includes himself..
It will more likely be an 'inside job' Elements of the Secret
Service would be ordered to carry out arrests, and when Trump
complains, he'll likely go under house arrest as well. "For his own
protection".
As if. The SS reports to the President.
As much as you would enjoy a coup, it's improbable.
Relax. He'll be termed out in 5 years.
I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
There's a logistical problem about the whole 5 more years thing in that
he's already fired or had resign everyone with some vaguely legitimate
qualifications who actually wanted to work with him in the span of 3.
And they're continuing to bail right this very moment.
In the Republican party there isn't an infinite pool of non-morons to
draw from for the staffing. If the administration manages to stumble
thru the current issues wait until you see what the next round of
barrel-bottom public servants manage to get themselves wrapped up in...
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 12:49 PM, bitrex wrote:
other administration's employee retention has been quite a bit better.
I understand pick-up-artist "abundance mentality" theory of "nexting"
every woman who irritates you ASAP in search of a better candidate
perfectly well and I know Trump is trying to apply those techniques to
America but look man, you can't dump everyone you just end up gay.
That goes for the Democratic party as well surely but overall everyOn 10/11/19 12:28 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vg61qe9jbhj5n8t9fk9sn9en3inbiaga0b@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
  Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their
  commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views
when on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations
and decisions based on those onservations, and this person
observed criminal behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet
him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-e
ncourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think
you're gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck,
demanding to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I
guess includes himself..
 It will more likely be an 'inside job' Elements of the Secret
Service would be ordered to carry out arrests, and when Trump
complains, he'll likely go under house arrest as well. "For his own
protection".
As if. The SS reports to the President.
As much as you would enjoy a coup, it's improbable.
Relax. He'll be termed out in 5 years.
I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
There's a logistical problem about the whole 5 more years thing in that
he's already fired or had resign everyone with some vaguely legitimate
qualifications who actually wanted to work with him in the span of 3.
And they're continuing to bail right this very moment.
In the Republican party there isn't an infinite pool of non-morons to
draw from for the staffing.
other administration's employee retention has been quite a bit better.
I understand pick-up-artist "abundance mentality" theory of "nexting"
every woman who irritates you ASAP in search of a better candidate
perfectly well and I know Trump is trying to apply those techniques to
America but look man, you can't dump everyone you just end up gay.
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 10:02 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
Terrell's right on one thing McCain wasn't any hero, at least not for
his whole life, he was also a shameless self-promoter who later
exploited and rode the crap out of his service and POW experience to get
away with saying and doing things he never could have as a civilian.
There wasn't anyone to "root" for when McCain and Trump dug into each
other just two geriatric jerks being old hens. Peas in a pod. It's why
they joined their party after all they liked each other better that way.
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 10:43:14 PM UTC+11, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 3:20:26 AM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 11/10/19 06:41, Michael Terrell wrote:
John McCain was no hero. His father and his Grandfather were. McCain was a
disaster in a Navy uniform. A fire that he caused on an Aircraft carrier
killed 134 people. If his dad wasn't in charge of all the Vietnam forces, he
would have ended up in Ft. Leavenworth. He is a prime example of Stolen
Valor. People who served with him described him as a loser.
That's a load of tosh according to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire
A missile from one aircraft hit a second aircraft. McCain
was the pilot in a third aircraft next to the first.
Dangerous decomposing bombs had been loaded and
stored on the deck. They split and detonated.
How do you turn that into McCain causing the fire?
Yet another 'Armchair Admiral'? Others aboard that ship claimed that he was a hotdog pilot who should have been grounded for breaking so many rules. The ONLY thing that prevented it was that his daddy was an Admiral.
All you've seen is the sanitized stories about McCain. Not what he was like, at the time.
Any body who gets famous - as McCain did - generates a lot of stories from people who claimed to have known him. Some of them can be true, but it's difficult to work out which ones.
You and Sloman automatically believe everything that put President Trump in a bad light.
Not exactly. There are a lot of convincing stories around that that show him in a bad light - and have been since the time when idea of him running for president would have been treated as utterly implausible.
I don't believe all of them.
The one about him organising a couple of tarts to piss on the bed that Obama slept in when he visited Moscow - included in the Steele report
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%E2%80%93Russia_dossier
does sound like a invention - Steele was asked to report any rumours he came across, rather than do any kind of rigorous fact-finding.
There have never been many stories around that have ever shown him in a good light - the one he tells about him being a "stable genius" merely demonstrate that he's not good at inventing plausible lies.
What you believe is meaningless, since you aren't US citizens.
That doesn't make it meaningless. It just gives you one more excuse to ignore it.
Terrell's right on one thing McCain wasn't any hero, at least not for
his whole life, he was also a shameless self-promoter who later
exploited and rode the crap out of his service and POW experience to get
away with saying and doing things he never could have as a civilian.
There wasn't anyone to "root" for when McCain and Trump dug into each
other just two geriatric jerks being old hens. Peas in a pod. It's why
they joined their party after all they liked each other better that way.
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 2:02 PM, bitrex wrote:
Or rather, not prisoners of low rank or little political value.
On 10/11/19 6:53 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:tVTnF.5993$xZ1.3822@fx30.iad:
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time
had somewhat different ideas about who actually runs the
country vs. The People and their elected representatives.
That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in
that he shares quite a number of their same attitudes but
has the audacity to be about 10% radically different
opinions in certain areas isn't too surprising, either.
"not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have
evolved into power centers with their own amoral political
interests and no affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the
Constitution, and to defend the United States against all
enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged.
To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will
likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but
their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen
Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most
were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly
in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no
Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one
grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants
me to answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected.
That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my
dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II,
and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings,
but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field
that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided
serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
PS: there weren't any living POWs/MIAs left behind for years or
decades in Vietnam it's another right-wing delusion.
  Bullshit. Some were also in Laos and Cambodia.
They had repatriated all the living ones by 1974, most of them were
pilots like McCain the Cong ground forces weren't known for taking
prisoners.
Or rather, not prisoners of low rank or little political value.
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 6:53 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
They had repatriated all the living ones by 1974, most of them were
pilots like McCain the Cong ground forces weren't known for taking
prisoners.
There were and still are uncovered and unrecoverable human remains of
the MIA and KIA. Like all wars.
That living POWs were kept for any significant length of time after '74
is a pretty extraordinary claim wrt Occam's Razor but AFAIK there's no
credible evidence for it. I'd certainly be happy to look at any
references you know of if you have any particulars in mind. They only
existed in Rambo movies...
A number of KIA were designated MIA to fool the American people into
thinking there weren't operations going on in Laos and Cambodia, yes.
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:tVTnF.5993$xZ1.3822@fx30.iad:
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time
had somewhat different ideas about who actually runs the
country vs. The People and their elected representatives.
That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in
that he shares quite a number of their same attitudes but
has the audacity to be about 10% radically different
opinions in certain areas isn't too surprising, either.
"not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have
evolved into power centers with their own amoral political
interests and no affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the
Constitution, and to defend the United States against all
enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged.
To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will
likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but
their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen
Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most
were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly
in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no
Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one
grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants
me to answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected.
That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my
dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II,
and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings,
but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field
that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided
serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
PS: there weren't any living POWs/MIAs left behind for years or
decades in Vietnam it's another right-wing delusion.
Bullshit. Some were also in Laos and Cambodia.
They had repatriated all the living ones by 1974, most of them were
pilots like McCain the Cong ground forces weren't known for taking
prisoners.
There were and still are uncovered and unrecoverable human remains of
the MIA and KIA. Like all wars.
That living POWs were kept for any significant length of time after '74
is a pretty extraordinary claim wrt Occam's Razor but AFAIK there's no
credible evidence for it. I'd certainly be happy to look at any
references you know of if you have any particulars in mind. They only
existed in Rambo movies...
A number of KIA were designated MIA to fool the American people into
thinking there weren't operations going on in Laos and Cambodia, yes.
Never-served Trump never liked John McCain because John McCain
pointed out how dumb the idea was from time to time.
McCain may have made some point regarding his personal beliefs
about it, but that is not the reason Trump did not like him. To put
it simply, Donald J. Trump is a child and one cannot make valid
guesses as to why the stupid bastard does things or about his
feelings.
Guest
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:54:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
Gay, gay, gay. Is that all you think about?
There are better newsgroups for that.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
On 10/11/19 12:49 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 10/11/19 12:28 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vg61qe9jbhj5n8t9fk9sn9en3inbiaga0b@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their
commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views
when on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations
and decisions based on those onservations, and this person
observed criminal behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet
him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-e
ncourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think
you're gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck,
demanding to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I
guess includes himself..
It will more likely be an 'inside job' Elements of the Secret
Service would be ordered to carry out arrests, and when Trump
complains, he'll likely go under house arrest as well. "For his own
protection".
As if. The SS reports to the President.
As much as you would enjoy a coup, it's improbable.
Relax. He'll be termed out in 5 years.
I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
There's a logistical problem about the whole 5 more years thing in that
he's already fired or had resign everyone with some vaguely legitimate
qualifications who actually wanted to work with him in the span of 3.
And they're continuing to bail right this very moment.
In the Republican party there isn't an infinite pool of non-morons to
draw from for the staffing.
That goes for the Democratic party as well surely but overall every
other administration's employee retention has been quite a bit better.
I understand pick-up-artist "abundance mentality" theory of "nexting"
every woman who irritates you ASAP in search of a better candidate
perfectly well and I know Trump is trying to apply those techniques to
America but look man, you can't dump everyone you just end up gay.
Gay, gay, gay. Is that all you think about?
There are better newsgroups for that.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
lunatic fringe electronics
B
Bill Sloman
Guest
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 2:13:21 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
John Larkin has been listening to James Arthur again.
Obama's only crime seems to have been that of being a Democrat. Back when the Republicans were more or less sane, that didn't count as a crime, but since the Koch-financed Tea Party takeover, the Republican Party has gone to the dogs - and to Donald Trump, which is even worse.
That's not how it works, but lunatic right-wingers do find odd ways of amusing themselves.
Seems unlikely.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views when
on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations and decisions
based on those onservations, and this person observed criminal
behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-encourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think you're
gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
John Larkin has been listening to James Arthur again.
Obama's only crime seems to have been that of being a Democrat. Back when the Republicans were more or less sane, that didn't count as a crime, but since the Koch-financed Tea Party takeover, the Republican Party has gone to the dogs - and to Donald Trump, which is even worse.
I just like the image of some Sergeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck, demanding
to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
That's not how it works, but lunatic right-wingers do find odd ways of amusing themselves.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I guess
includes himself.
Seems unlikely.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
B
Bill Sloman
Guest
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 3:29:08 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
If he doesn't decide that he's at least as good at the job as Roosevelt, and get the limitation struck down
> I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
People with a better grasp of reality noticed that both of them managed to undo a lot of the damage done by their Republican predecessors.
John Larkin is a gullible twit and he does seem to believe a lot of the nonsense that James Arthur tells him.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vg61qe9jbhj5n8t9fk9sn9en3inbiaga0b@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their
commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views
when on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations
and decisions based on those onservations, and this person
observed criminal behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet
him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-e
ncourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think
you're gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck,
demanding to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I
guess includes himself..
It will more likely be an 'inside job' Elements of the Secret
Service would be ordered to carry out arrests, and when Trump
complains, he'll likely go under house arrest as well. "For his own
protection".
As if. The SS reports to the President.
As much as you would enjoy a coup, it's improbable.
Relax. He'll be termed out in 5 years.
If he doesn't decide that he's at least as good at the job as Roosevelt, and get the limitation struck down
> I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
People with a better grasp of reality noticed that both of them managed to undo a lot of the damage done by their Republican predecessors.
John Larkin is a gullible twit and he does seem to believe a lot of the nonsense that James Arthur tells him.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 11:04 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
Hard to believe your ghoulish ass is still slouching around here,
though! Just in time for Halloween, too. Dr. Frankenstein was really
ahead of his time.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:45:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 10/10/19 10:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
There certainly is a Deep State that sees Trump as a threat, that
hates him and wants to destroy him and has contempt for the flyover
yokels who elected him. DS is organized here and there, but really
it's the aggregate of people who turn to government for profit and
power, and those who are aggrieved by the perceived success and
happiness of others. There's a lot of energy there to be exploited.
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
More than half of the veterans who've served in combat I've known
personally were liberals/Democrats, sooooo.....
ShortBit lives in a bubble. Who wudda guessed?
Hard to believe your ghoulish ass is still slouching around here,
though! Just in time for Halloween, too. Dr. Frankenstein was really
ahead of his time.
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 11:04 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
My father had many children, the right-wing ones didn't serve, never
visited him, never contributed shit, and never did shit.
I wasn't surprised...
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:45:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 10/10/19 10:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
There certainly is a Deep State that sees Trump as a threat, that
hates him and wants to destroy him and has contempt for the flyover
yokels who elected him. DS is organized here and there, but really
it's the aggregate of people who turn to government for profit and
power, and those who are aggrieved by the perceived success and
happiness of others. There's a lot of energy there to be exploited.
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
More than half of the veterans who've served in combat I've known
personally were liberals/Democrats, sooooo.....
ShortBit lives in a bubble. Who wudda guessed?
My father had many children, the right-wing ones didn't serve, never
visited him, never contributed shit, and never did shit.
I wasn't surprised...
Guest
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:45:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 10/10/19 10:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
There certainly is a Deep State that sees Trump as a threat, that
hates him and wants to destroy him and has contempt for the flyover
yokels who elected him. DS is organized here and there, but really
it's the aggregate of people who turn to government for profit and
power, and those who are aggrieved by the perceived success and
happiness of others. There's a lot of energy there to be exploited.
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
More than half of the veterans who've served in combat I've known
personally were liberals/Democrats, sooooo.....
ShortBit lives in a bubble. Who wudda guessed?
B
bitrex
Guest
On 10/11/19 9:51 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
I'm not interested in your wife, sorry. Wow, Kevin McAleenan, too? Can't
even get to the grocery and back without another raft hitting the water.
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:54:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 10/11/19 12:49 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 10/11/19 12:28 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:vg61qe9jbhj5n8t9fk9sn9en3inbiaga0b@4ax.com:
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 00:25:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
  Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their
  commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views
when on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations
and decisions based on those onservations, and this person
observed criminal behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet
him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-e
ncourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
You can't wait to live under a military dictatorship? Lol I think
you're gonna like that a lot less than you think
Dictatorship? Maybe you are thinking of the previous President.
I just like the image of some Seargeant at Arms showing up at the
White House waving a piece of paper signed by Pencil Neck,
demanding to the Marine Guard that he be let in to arrest people.
Even sillier is that the President can pardon anyone, which I
guess includes himself..
 It will more likely be an 'inside job' Elements of the Secret
Service would be ordered to carry out arrests, and when Trump
complains, he'll likely go under house arrest as well. "For his own
protection".
As if. The SS reports to the President.
As much as you would enjoy a coup, it's improbable.
Relax. He'll be termed out in 5 years.
I tolerated Clinton and Obama. Try to enjoy the life that you have.
There's a logistical problem about the whole 5 more years thing in that
he's already fired or had resign everyone with some vaguely legitimate
qualifications who actually wanted to work with him in the span of 3.
And they're continuing to bail right this very moment.
In the Republican party there isn't an infinite pool of non-morons to
draw from for the staffing.
That goes for the Democratic party as well surely but overall every
other administration's employee retention has been quite a bit better.
I understand pick-up-artist "abundance mentality" theory of "nexting"
every woman who irritates you ASAP in search of a better candidate
perfectly well and I know Trump is trying to apply those techniques to
America but look man, you can't dump everyone you just end up gay.
Gay, gay, gay. Is that all you think about?
There are better newsgroups for that.
I'm not interested in your wife, sorry. Wow, Kevin McAleenan, too? Can't
even get to the grocery and back without another raft hitting the water.