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On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:58:49 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
It's my general reaction to the movement to impeach him, which began
before he was even inaugurated.
The same way the media started applying the term 'Camelot' to the Obama
administration when it was a week old.
Was that a compliment or an insult?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views when
on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations and decisions
based on those onservations,
I believe that they are expected to obey the orders of superior
officers, with some penalties if they don't... all the way up the
chain of command.
The top military officer now happens to be Donald
Trump, the constitutional Commander In Chief.
and this person observed criminal
behavior from way back before he even ran.
Funny coincidence, I have sometimes observed criminal behavior too.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:30:14 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:EmInF.40139$KB2.21537@fx02.iad:
On 10/10/19 10:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
John Larkin is an abject idiot for segregating himself, and
thinking he is actually some moderately different type of person than
the rest of us. That does make him different, but thus he falls into
a particular class of narcissism.
He lives by and believes fantasy bullshit about how things are.
Very similar stupidity we saw with the Tea Party dipshits. He may be
one.
It is real simple, Johnny. Donald J. Trump is a criminal and has
no business in our nation's highest office. There has been SEVERAL
junctures at which he should have simply resigned.
He must have forgot. Email him and straighten him out.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:45:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 10/10/19 10:58 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
There certainly is a Deep State that sees Trump as a threat, that
hates him and wants to destroy him and has contempt for the flyover
yokels who elected him. DS is organized here and there, but really
it's the aggregate of people who turn to government for profit and
power, and those who are aggrieved by the perceived success and
happiness of others. There's a lot of energy there to be exploited.
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
More than half of the veterans who've served in combat I've known
personally were liberals/Democrats, sooooo.....
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 4:06:21 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso
wrote:
The same way the media started applying the term 'Camelot' to the
Obama administration when it was a week old.
Are you sure that wasn't 'Camel lot'? ;-)
That term applied to Hillary's staff, on loan from Hamas.
But maybe it should also apply to a guy who went to school during his
formative years in Indonesia.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:44:15 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:j7mupedeig07m8r4tk5ut9n3cko5h1ivq0@4ax.com:
Did that make them disloyal to their Commander in Chief?
Miliary personnel are NOT admonished to be loyal to their commander
in chief. They ARE admonished to remain silent in their views when
on duty. However, we are supposed to make observations and decisions
based on those onservations, and this person observed criminal
behavior from way back before he even ran.
This is hilarious: Congress will send their Seargeant at Arms to
arrest the President, and Trump will send the US Army to meet him.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/10/10/cornell-law-prof-encourages-congress-to-arrest-trump-allies-in-nyt-op-ed/
Can't wait!
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants me to
answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants me to
answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants me to
answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
Only fights going on at the time I was 18 were started by Bill Clinton
against destitute 3rd world countries, and the only fights going on when
I was 25 were against some more destitute 3rd world countries whose
citizens never did anything to us. The territory of the United States or
its population was never in the slightest danger aside from a terrorist
attack that could have been prevented aside from the US government's own
miserable incompetence.
Where was the "Duty" in any of that? One of Trump's own points of policy
was that there wasn't any.
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants me to
answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants me to
answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
PS: there weren't any living POWs/MIAs left behind for years or decades
in Vietnam it's another right-wing delusion.
Never-served Trump never liked John McCain because John McCain pointed
out how dumb the idea was from time to time.
John McCain was no hero. His father and his Grandfather were. McCain was a
disaster in a Navy uniform. A fire that he caused on an Aircraft carrier
killed 134 people. If his dad wasn't in charge of all the Vietnam forces, he
would have ended up in Ft. Leavenworth. He is a prime example of Stolen
Valor. People who served with him described him as a loser.
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 12:32:45 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants me to
answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
Only fights going on at the time I was 18 were started by Bill Clinton
against destitute 3rd world countries, and the only fights going on when
I was 25 were against some more destitute 3rd world countries whose
citizens never did anything to us. The territory of the United States or
its population was never in the slightest danger aside from a terrorist
attack that could have been prevented aside from the US government's own
miserable incompetence.
Where was the "Duty" in any of that? One of Trump's own points of policy
was that there wasn't any.
You are truly stupid. You have no idea of how the Military works. It is above your pay grade and it always will be.
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 12:32:45 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/11/19 12:13 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 8:32:42 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 8:04 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:54:30 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/10/19 4:28 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
The military, DoD, CIA, FBI, et. al. have for a long time had somewhat
different ideas about who actually runs the country vs. The People and
their elected representatives. That's mostly business-as-usual
That their contempt for Trump should be all the greater in that he
shares quite a number of their same attitudes but has the audacity to be
about 10% radically different opinions in certain areas isn't too
surprising, either. "not invented here"-mentality
The military in the USA have been steadfastly loyal to the
Constitution and to the people. CIA, FBI, DOJ seem to have evolved
into power centers with their own amoral political interests and no
affection for daylight.
We who serve in the US Military take an oath to "Uphold the Constitution, and to defend the United States against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic."
We are not released from that oath, after we are discharged. To the gutless lefties who try to trash America, they will likely never understand this issue.
I look at those who openly brag that they didn't serve but their family members did, to be on the same level of 'Stolen Valor' types.
Their Moms and grandmas, too?
I served, along with family members of both parents. Most were during WWII, but some during Korea and Vietnam. Mostly in the Army, followed by the Navy and Marines. There was no Air Force when most of them served.
One of my Aunts served in the WAC during WWII, and one grandmother was a nurse that worked with Veterans. Did yours?
First he doesn't want me to talk about my family. Now he wants me to
answer questions about my family. Sheesh!
Liar. I answered your question, but it wasn't what you expected. That Aunt and her Husband met in the Army during WW-II. He was my dad's older brother. My dad was to young to serve during WW-II, and he was married before Korea. I had five 4F medical ratings, but they disappeared when they discovered the Electronics field that I was working in. I could have acted like you and avoided serving, but some of us were raised with a strong sense of Duty.
Only fights going on at the time I was 18 were started by Bill Clinton
against destitute 3rd world countries, and the only fights going on when
I was 25 were against some more destitute 3rd world countries whose
citizens never did anything to us. The territory of the United States or
its population was never in the slightest danger aside from a terrorist
attack that could have been prevented aside from the US government's own
miserable incompetence.
Where was the "Duty" in any of that? One of Trump's own points of policy
was that there wasn't any.
You are truly stupid. You have no idea of how the Military works. It is above your pay grade and it always will be.
On 11/10/19 06:41, Michael Terrell wrote:
John McCain was no hero. His father and his Grandfather were. McCain was a
disaster in a Navy uniform. A fire that he caused on an Aircraft carrier
killed 134 people. If his dad wasn't in charge of all the Vietnam forces, he
would have ended up in Ft. Leavenworth. He is a prime example of Stolen
Valor. People who served with him described him as a loser.
That's a load of tosh according to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire
A missile from one aircraft hit a second aircraft. McCain
was the pilot in a third aircraft next to the first.
Dangerous decomposing bombs had been loaded and
stored on the deck. They split and detonated.
How do you turn that into McCain causing the fire?
On 11/10/19 06:41, Michael Terrell wrote:
John McCain was no hero. His father and his Grandfather were. McCain was a
disaster in a Navy uniform. A fire that he caused on an Aircraft carrier
killed 134 people. If his dad wasn't in charge of all the Vietnam forces, he
would have ended up in Ft. Leavenworth. He is a prime example of Stolen
Valor. People who served with him described him as a loser.
That's a load of tosh according to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire
A missile from one aircraft hit a second aircraft. McCain
was the pilot in a third aircraft next to the first.
Dangerous decomposing bombs had been loaded and
stored on the deck. They split and detonated.
How do you turn that into McCain causing the fire?
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 6:20:26 PM UTC+11, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 11/10/19 06:41, Michael Terrell wrote:
John McCain was no hero. His father and his Grandfather were. McCain was a
disaster in a Navy uniform. A fire that he caused on an Aircraft carrier
killed 134 people. If his dad wasn't in charge of all the Vietnam forces, he
would have ended up in Ft. Leavenworth. He is a prime example of Stolen
Valor. People who served with him described him as a loser.
That's a load of tosh according to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire
A missile from one aircraft hit a second aircraft. McCain
was the pilot in a third aircraft next to the first.
Dangerous decomposing bombs had been loaded and
stored on the deck. They split and detonated.
How do you turn that into McCain causing the fire?
By believing something Trump has claimed? Michael Terrell isn't famous for his careful critical thinking.