Lithium batteries, not worth it...

[Peeler]

On 17 Apr 2023 01:24:10 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Yes he was the rocket scientist in the family. He learned part of his
trade from the best in the business -- the Germans at Redstone Arsenal.

Yeah, but was he a bigmouth like you? Or were your whole \"family\" a bunch of
pathological bigmouths? Or are you the only one who stand out in that
regard?

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero\'s senile
life:
\"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either.\"
MID: <k84ip9Fesb1U1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 17 Apr 2023 01:28:19 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My Toyota Yaris sometimes gets 41 mpg with no prep and a 1500 cc ICE with
a full load of camping gear, tools, snowshoes, spare boots, and so forth.
That falls off quite a bit a 80 mph.

Whereas your endlessly gossiping big mouth NEVER seems to fall off, not even
for a short time, you pathological bigmouth! LOL

--
Another one of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" lines:
\"If you\'re an ax murderer don\'t leave souvenir photos on your phone.\"
\"MID: <k7ssc7F8mt9U3@mid.individual.net>\"

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 19:32:41 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

You didn\'t seem to respond to what I said.

Hold your breath. Or cry. Or something.

Nope, you troll-feeding senile asshole, HE\'ll just keep baiting with ever
more idiotic baits!

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 07:06:22 +0100, anal_m, the notorious troll-feeding
senile retard, blathered again:

> And the M25 can be the UKs biggest parking lot at times

Will thrashing of these poor ngs by you abnormal and brain dead sick
assholes never end?

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 19:34:13 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

Point taken.
Point taken.
Point taken.
Point taken.

....and troll fed again, you troll-feeding sick senile asshole!

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 16/04/2023 20:16, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:14:29 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-16, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

far flung outbacks of the UK

I love your dry, British sense of humor.

http://www.undertheraedar.com/2011/01/exactly-how-big-is-united-
kingdom.html

You could dump the entire 93,628 square miles in eastern Montana and only
the prairie dogs would notice.

And what a huge difference in culture in would make.

--
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 17/04/2023 02:28, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:36:48 +0100, alan_m wrote:

The miles per gallon figures are shown on the screen. 44mpg and from
1980 when they removed all seats, except the drivers seat, removed the
spare wheel, removed carpets, taped up any cracks in the bodywork etc.
etc. to obtain the mileage figures.

My Toyota Yaris sometimes gets 41 mpg with no prep and a 1500 cc ICE with
a full load of camping gear, tools, snowshoes, spare boots, and so forth.
That falls off quite a bit a 80 mph.

My Jaguar XF sometimes gets 41mph with a 3 litre V6 twin turbodiesel.
Load doesn\'t matter as it weighs so much to start with. Its all about
not using the brakes.


--
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

 

[Frank]

On 4/16/2023 7:16 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 16/04/2023 12:11, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 12:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:00:03 +1000, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Since coal can be made into gasoline, can
natural gas be made into gasoline as well?

You can make any hydrocarbon into any
other hydrocarbon, but whether it makes
sense to do that is a separate issue.

That would also be my answer.

Google \'catalytic cracking\'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_catalytic_cracking

That\'s how they break up heavy oils into lighter fractions.
Going the reverse direction is not used so much.

But still, is used...

http://www.setlab.com/resources/refining/polymerization/

Syn gas from coal might be a better precursor. I saw a process once
where it was used to make acetic acid.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 17/04/2023 12:41, Frank wrote:

On 4/16/2023 7:16 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/2023 12:11, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 12:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:00:03 +1000, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Since coal can be made into gasoline, can
natural gas be made into gasoline as well?

You can make any hydrocarbon into any
other hydrocarbon, but whether it makes
sense to do that is a separate issue.

That would also be my answer.

Google \'catalytic cracking\'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_catalytic_cracking

That\'s how they break up heavy oils into lighter fractions.
Going the reverse direction is not used so much.

But still, is used...

http://www.setlab.com/resources/refining/polymerization/


Syn gas from coal might be a better precursor.  I saw a process once
where it was used to make acetic acid.

Syngas from coal is fine.
If you have coal.
When all you have is a nuke, you need to be more creative

--
A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on
its shoes.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 10:59:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

My Jaguar XF sometimes gets 41mph with a 3 litre V6 twin turbodiesel.
Load doesn\'t matter as it weighs so much to start with. Its all about
not using the brakes.

I had a \'62 Lincoln Continental that would get into the low 20s on the
highway. It weight about 5500 lbs and had a 430 ci engine with a 4 barrel
carburetor. It makes me wonder when I see new SUVs that claim less
mileage.

There was a motorcycle economy test with surprising results. Harleys with
their large, low-tech engines did better than some of the smaller engines.
While the Harleys were loafing along at highway speeds the small engines
were working harder.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 10:57:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 16/04/2023 20:16, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:14:29 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-04-16, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

far flung outbacks of the UK

I love your dry, British sense of humor.

http://www.undertheraedar.com/2011/01/exactly-how-big-is-united-
kingdom.html

You could dump the entire 93,628 square miles in eastern Montana and
only the prairie dogs would notice.

And what a huge difference in culture in would make.

Yeah, we would have to build a wall out near Billings to keep it from
spreading.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:29:40 +0100, alan_m wrote:

On 17/04/2023 02:28, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:36:48 +0100, alan_m wrote:

The miles per gallon figures are shown on the screen. 44mpg and from
1980 when they removed all seats, except the drivers seat, removed the
spare wheel, removed carpets, taped up any cracks in the bodywork etc.
etc. to obtain the mileage figures.

My Toyota Yaris sometimes gets 41 mpg with no prep and a 1500 cc ICE
with a full load of camping gear, tools, snowshoes, spare boots, and so
forth.
That falls off quite a bit a 80 mph.

So by loading it up you get 20 mpg less than the manufacturers stated
mpg.

The Commander seems to be claiming that loading up a car with extra
weight (in his case with extra batteries) doesn\'t make much difference
in performance.

No. The published EPA highway MPG is 35. I typically get a little better
than that, with 41 mpg recorded as the highest. Summer or winter it has
camping gear, water, tools, an ax, an entrenching tool, air pump, and
other assorted junk. I don\'t have a baseline figure since the day I bought
it the rear seat was folded down and stuff added, but it doesn\'t seem to
make a difference.

What does make a difference is speed. The interstates here are 80 mph
roads and I\'ve seen the mpg drop to high 20s at that speed. I don\'t have
enough data to plot a curve of mpg versus speed so I don\'t know if there
is a knee. There is a green \'eco\' light that might be some indication that
definitely isn\'t lit at 80.

 

[Peeler]

On 17 Apr 2023 14:47:17 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Yeah, we would have to build a wall out near Billings to keep it from
spreading.

I suppose they still would need to construct a muzzle that could shut YOU
and your big mouth up!

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 17 Apr 2023 16:02:18 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

No. The published EPA highway MPG is 35. I typically get a little better
than that, with 41 mpg recorded as the highest. Summer or winter it has
camping gear, water, tools, an ax, an entrenching tool, air pump, and
other assorted junk. I don\'t have a baseline figure since the day I bought
it the rear seat was folded down and stuff added, but it doesn\'t seem to
make a difference.

What does make a difference is speed. The interstates here are 80 mph
roads and I\'ve seen the mpg drop to high 20s at that speed. I don\'t have
enough data to plot a curve of mpg versus speed so I don\'t know if there
is a knee. There is a green \'eco\' light that might be some indication that
definitely isn\'t lit at 80.

LOL What a bigmouth! Man, you ARE sick! LOL

--
Yet more absolutely idiotic senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[SteveW]

On 17/04/2023 15:45, rbowman wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 10:59:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

My Jaguar XF sometimes gets 41mph with a 3 litre V6 twin turbodiesel.
Load doesn\'t matter as it weighs so much to start with. Its all about
not using the brakes.

I had a \'62 Lincoln Continental that would get into the low 20s on the
highway. It weight about 5500 lbs and had a 430 ci engine with a 4 barrel
carburetor. It makes me wonder when I see new SUVs that claim less
mileage.

A friend had a 1960 Chevrolet Sedan Delivery (for those of us in the UK,
think stretched and widened, but no taller, Ford Escort Van, with
horizontal fins). It had a 5.3l V8.

We once took it (him driving and 8 passengers) on a long motorway drive
and he got 9mpg. He was very pleased, as he\'d only got 7mpg before! And
those are UK gallons.

 

[Peeler]

On 17 Apr 2023 14:45:36 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

I had a \'62 Lincoln Continental that would get into the low 20s on the
highway. It weight about 5500 lbs and had a 430 ci engine with a 4 barrel
carburetor. It makes me wonder when I see new SUVs that claim less
mileage.

There was a motorcycle economy test with surprising results. Harleys with
their large, low-tech engines did better than some of the smaller engines.
While the Harleys were loafing along at highway speeds the small engines
were working harder.

But neither machine could compete with the speed at which your big mouth
keeps operating!

--
Gossiping \"lowbrowwoman\" about herself:
\"Usenet is my blog... I don\'t give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts.\"
MID: <iteioiF60jmU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[SteveW]

On 17/04/2023 15:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 17/04/2023 12:41, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 7:16 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/2023 12:11, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 12:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:00:03 +1000, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Since coal can be made into gasoline, can
natural gas be made into gasoline as well?

You can make any hydrocarbon into any
other hydrocarbon, but whether it makes
sense to do that is a separate issue.

That would also be my answer.

Google \'catalytic cracking\'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_catalytic_cracking

That\'s how they break up heavy oils into lighter fractions.
Going the reverse direction is not used so much.

But still, is used...

http://www.setlab.com/resources/refining/polymerization/


Syn gas from coal might be a better precursor.  I saw a process once
where it was used to make acetic acid.

Syngas from coal is fine.
If you have coal.
When all you have is a nuke, you need to be more creative

You can produce syngas from domestic waste. I was involved in the
control system design for a pilot plant intended to go into Sri Lanka or
somewhere like that, but it never got built. It was intended to separate
waste, burn the burnable waste and then use a heat exchanger on the
syngas to produce steam to drive a steam turbine and to burn the syngas
in a gas turbine. Both turbines generating electricity.

 

[Frank]

On 4/17/2023 12:41 PM, SteveW wrote:

On 17/04/2023 15:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/04/2023 12:41, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 7:16 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/2023 12:11, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 12:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:00:03 +1000, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Since coal can be made into gasoline, can
natural gas be made into gasoline as well?

You can make any hydrocarbon into any
other hydrocarbon, but whether it makes
sense to do that is a separate issue.

That would also be my answer.

Google \'catalytic cracking\'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_catalytic_cracking

That\'s how they break up heavy oils into lighter fractions.
Going the reverse direction is not used so much.

But still, is used...

http://www.setlab.com/resources/refining/polymerization/


Syn gas from coal might be a better precursor.  I saw a process once
where it was used to make acetic acid.

Syngas from coal is fine.
If you have coal.
When all you have is a nuke, you need to be more creative

You can produce syngas from domestic waste. I was involved in the
control system design for a pilot plant intended to go into Sri Lanka or
somewhere like that, but it never got built. It was intended to separate
waste, burn the burnable waste and then use a heat exchanger on the
syngas to produce steam to drive a steam turbine and to burn the syngas
in a gas turbine. Both turbines generating electricity.

The one I saw was at Tennesee Eastman plant making acetic acid for
acetate polymer. Just saw the outside of the unit where they dumped the
coal from box cars and looked clean. Must have been over 40 years ago.

 

[SteveW]

On 17/04/2023 18:21, Frank wrote:

On 4/17/2023 12:41 PM, SteveW wrote:
On 17/04/2023 15:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/04/2023 12:41, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 7:16 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/2023 12:11, Frank wrote:
On 4/16/2023 12:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:00:03 +1000, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Since coal can be made into gasoline, can
natural gas be made into gasoline as well?

You can make any hydrocarbon into any
other hydrocarbon, but whether it makes
sense to do that is a separate issue.

That would also be my answer.

Google \'catalytic cracking\'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_catalytic_cracking

That\'s how they break up heavy oils into lighter fractions.
Going the reverse direction is not used so much.

But still, is used...

http://www.setlab.com/resources/refining/polymerization/


Syn gas from coal might be a better precursor.  I saw a process once
where it was used to make acetic acid.

Syngas from coal is fine.
If you have coal.
When all you have is a nuke, you need to be more creative

You can produce syngas from domestic waste. I was involved in the
control system design for a pilot plant intended to go into Sri Lanka
or somewhere like that, but it never got built. It was intended to
separate waste, burn the burnable waste and then use a heat exchanger
on the syngas to produce steam to drive a steam turbine and to burn
the syngas in a gas turbine. Both turbines generating electricity.


The one I saw was at Tennesee Eastman plant making acetic acid for
acetate polymer.  Just saw the outside of the unit where they dumped the
coal from box cars and looked clean.  Must have been over 40 years ago.

This was a plasma arc furnace, with the waste being supported by a
bridge of continuously replenished coal.

 

[whit3rd]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 8:37:50 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 11:58:59 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 16/04/2023 01:40, Ed P wrote:

The current global average concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is 421
ppm as of May 2022. This is an increase of 50% since the start of the
Industrial Revolution, up from 280 ppm during the 10,000 years prior to
the mid-18th century. The increase is due to human activity.

And you know this because? That period also coincides with the end of
the little ice age, and we know that mildly warming oceans outgass lots
of CO2 until the organic life catches up with it

CO2 levels have flailed violently over past millions of years, with no
humans around.

Flails remove grain from grasses; CO2 levels have varied, as the Earth
has aged. Those \'ages\', in geological time, are not so short as the
timescale on which human interference has operated on greenhouse gas levels..

Spin doesn\'t save us from dire consequences; real action is required
according to our best information, and real costs of coasting along
without a plan are much greater than the costs of regulating our
atmospheric additive habits.

Get real.