Jihad needs scientists

[T Wake]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
T Wake wrote:

Planes to the US are becoming a joke now, all because of four domestic
flights being taken over. How many flights take off each day?

Taken over ?

I don't think a single one has been 'taken over'.

Hmm. Pedantry again. What terminology would you use to describe the
actions
of the terrorists who flew the planes into the world trade centre?

Did they not "take over" the plane? Was it not a domestic flight?

I may be mistaken, and I often am.

You said 'to the US' not 'in the US' so I took it to mean international
flights.

Sorry, I meant the flights going to the US were a joke, because four
domestic US flights had been taken over. The idea was to highlight the
foolishness of the resulting "Airport Security" actions. Interesting
(related) article linked to from this page -
http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2006/09/28/slashdot-effect-still-working/

 

[T Wake]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

The insurgent isn't automatically a terrorist.

It is a viewpoint issue. Were the July train bombers in London
insurgents
or
terrorists?

Definitely terrorists. Not insurgents in any organised way.

But they were organised.

An organised group of 5 ?

Yes.

Is there a minimum number before you can become organised?

Apart from that, who recruited them? Who trained them? Who equipped
them?
Who encouraged them?

You can't conceive of the idea they did this on their own ?

Well, yes. I can conceive the idea.

There were still five of them. That is organised.

If they did this on their own then it is a worrying sign. Normally you
would
hope they had been radicalised by some insane cleric with a grudge
against
the US. I am impressed they learned to make home made explosives (HME)
without killing themselves - HME probably killed more IRA bombers than
all
the security forces put together.

I am impressed at their untrained operational security in that they
discussed it with each other an no one else on the planet found out about
it.

If they did all this on their own, then may be we should be worried.

I think that's exactly the point.

You think we should be very worried?

Me personally, I think they are no different (if slightly more suicidal)
than the idiots who were IRA bombers in the seventies. Slightly less scary
though.

 

[Daniel Mandic]

John Larkin wrote:

And there is a tiny fraction of the Jews
living in Germany than there were in 1935.

John

Says what? .... or do you just gamble!?


Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Daniel Mandic]

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:19:37 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
Keith wrote:

Meanwhile, the stuffed donkey will watch the documentary about
the >> >> wild west, "Blazing Saddles".

I've never watched it. It's far too tedious.

Graham

Most of Mel Brooks' stuff is loaded with Hollywood insider jokes,
usually mocking studio fatheads. His "Robin Hood: Men in Tights"
did a >> nice job on Kevin Cosner. Like in Wodehouse's books, the
plots are >> just a framework to hold things up.

I find the humour too juvenile for my taste. It's like finding
farts funny and nothing else.

---
I suggest American and Jewish all at once is too much for you...

Yea, you can count up to three. Fantastic!

Make it easier )) Count 1 for USA and 2 for the World. So you have
no further debate.



Best regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Homer J Simpson wrote:

If you want to get snippy, consider this: there are several times
more Native Americans alive now, in the USA, than there were when
Columbus landed in the Americas.

Pure blood?

Bah... If you can show me men with green blood or people with over
1800ccm headbrain volume, I will believe to racial shite.

Chuck Norris. Dave Haynie. Robert Beltran. Lou Diamond Phillips. Kevin
Costner. And so on...



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: Jimmy Carter.

 

[Daniel Mandic]

I think you can count up to two, or three. At four you have actualley
stucked, as many other .... unfortunately.


Who is it now? The world leader... Rusia? USA? Europe?


No, no wait... it's the Moonstation Captain speaking to you... brzzz,
breeek, pam. USA - is - the - World - Moon - Leader -.

WhY? just look to the weird people there, buying claims on the moon. I
believe you could defent taht claims, but that shows even more that the
pure moron is found in the United States of America.



Best regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:14:43 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:35:28 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:08:34 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
Homer J Simpson wrote:
lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote

I don't think Clinton was a very good moral example, but then
again, there
are lots of things that are worse than getting an adulterous
blowjob at
work

Carter sold arms to the Indonesians so they could massacre the East
Timorese. Compared to that a blowjob is nothing.

Heck, even the UK sold arms to the Idonesians. Jet fighters in fact.

That the US public could get so worked up over a minor sexual
indiscretion yet
not give a damn about killing tens of thousands of foreigners is very
telling
and a very depressing comment on the state of US society.

You pay _way_ too much attention to the media.

I'm imagining Ken Starr ?

Without the media's turning Clinton's sexual indiscretions into a
cause célebre, the Lewinski matter would have remained private, as
it should have stayed.

That's rich. Democratic idiocies (Clinton's inappropriate sexual relations
in office) are the Democrats' fault, but Republican idiocies (attempting to
smear and impeach Clinton over something so ridiculously small) are the
fault of the press.

---
Chicken-egg.

I don't know which came first, but I'm assuming the sensationalism
of his idiocies in the media led to the Democrat feeding frenzy.

Was it the other way around?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[T Wake]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

What does the USA get out of it ? Apart from terrorist attacks ?

Well, my personal feeling is that changing your foreign policy as
the
result of terrorist attacks is _always_ wrong.

You'd be insane to ignore the reasons !

What reasons?

If you mean countries should adjust their policy at the whim of
bombers
then I hope you never run for political office.

Like I said. You'd be insane not to consider the why of it.

Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean the "why of it?"

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it.

Why would ppl want to bomb us ?

Because some people are bad.

There is an interesting twist on your posts. You appear to think it logical
to say all Americans want to do is bomb every one else and are happy for
pointing out that they are (generally) aggressive war mongerers. Then in
this line, you think it is possible to be in a situation where other people
would not want to bomb us because ( I assume) we [tinw] are so good and
nice.

In global politics it is never going to be possible to not offend someone.
Ever.

When that someone turns out to be mad, the risk of them retaliating is high.

Take this example. Dispute between country A and country B. Superpower A is
asked to help solve the dispute. Citizens of country B feel Superpower A
went against their best interests and bomb Superpower A a bit.

Superpower A, thinks I don't want to be bombed and changes its policy.

Now Country A (quite rightly) gets offended. Fortunately for them, the
precedence has been set and they bomb Superpower A for a while.

Superpower A, thinks I don't want to be bombed and changes its policy.

Can you see where this is heading?

Changing the policy of a democratically elected government in response to
violence or the threats of violence is (IMHO obviously) madness.

 

[T Wake]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:

Military Police patrolling civilian towns is not normal... The fact
the
idea was even suggested is shocking and I am ex-Army.

What was the idea behind the use of MPs ?

Civilian police were too undermanned to provide a suitable presence at
weekends and it was thought that most of the drinkers would be local
soldiers.

I can see the logic in that.

Possibly. It is wrong though. If you were a local civilian caught up in it,
how would you feel being arrested by Military Police?

 

[Daniel Mandic]

T Wake wrote:

Endurance.


Aha. The mad, the unemployed, the social misfits, (and so on) are the
victors then. Wonderful.

wpldfndjshnwnmskksmskdmd


Yeah, endurance. (Great statement!)



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <afGdnYbRToSzCrjYRVnygg@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

"Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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.
In article <452590E2.F828860@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Lobbing missiles

The targeting was quite precise actually.

Yep. He hit that aspirin factory dead on. Managed to put down the
chimney of the Chinese Embassy during Kosovo, too, Rip roaring accuracy.

Wow. Does your president launch and aim the missiles himself?

He most often picks the targets, especially in these kinds of

one-off retalitatory strikes. Although I think I see a tongue stuck in
that cheek,

Amazing. I love your country.
As well you should.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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If they did this on their own then it is a worrying sign. Normally you
would hope they had been radicalised by some insane cleric with a grudge
against the US. I am impressed they learned to make home made explosives
(HME) without killing themselves - HME probably killed more IRA bombers
than all the security forces put together.

If they did all this on their own, then may be we should be worried.

Gotta love that internet!

Results about 28,400,000 for home made explosives.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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I see terrorist attack doesn't make the top twenty then That war on
tobacco really needs to get started soon.

WHAT!! How dare you! Why, some of our finest congress things are supported
by the good folks that make cigarettes.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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20,000 killed by sex and yet only 13,426 of that number from Aids ? What's
going
on ?

That's what comes of abstinence only courses. They don't get the message
about lamp sockets.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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I don't have to. Your country can intercept other nations to gather
foreign intelligence.

With the help of the British. Menwith Hill.

http://duncan.gn.apc.org/echelon-dc.htm

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <45259736.ADA6BCBA@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Kurt Ullman wrote:

In article <452590E2.F828860@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Lobbing missiles

The targeting was quite precise actually.

Yep. He hit that aspirin factory dead on. Managed to put down the
chimney of the Chinese Embassy during Kosovo, too, Rip roaring accuracy.

I gather the Chinese Embassy was down to poor 'intelligence' !
Actually both of them were. Interestingly enough the CIA chief who

was involved in both of these was the guy still in charge in the run up
Iraq, a hold over from the Clinton Administration. Congressional types
keep forgetting that.

They gave up on the job.

They are still looking. Just don't have a bunch of people delegated

to that job specifically. I am on record from soon after 9/11 as saying
specifically targeting OBL like that was a dumb idea. Took assets away
from other more pressing issues.

 

[T Wake]

"Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <afGdnYbRToSzCrjYRVnygg@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

"Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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.
In article <452590E2.F828860@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Lobbing missiles

The targeting was quite precise actually.

Yep. He hit that aspirin factory dead on. Managed to put down the
chimney of the Chinese Embassy during Kosovo, too, Rip roaring
accuracy.

Wow. Does your president launch and aim the missiles himself?

He most often picks the targets, especially in these kinds of
one-off retalitatory strikes. Although I think I see a tongue stuck in
that cheek,

There may well be....

 

[T Wake]

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:C2hVg.51716$E67.14401@clgrps13...

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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If they did this on their own then it is a worrying sign. Normally you
would hope they had been radicalised by some insane cleric with a grudge
against the US. I am impressed they learned to make home made explosives
(HME) without killing themselves - HME probably killed more IRA bombers
than all the security forces put together.

If they did all this on their own, then may be we should be worried.

Gotta love that internet!

Results about 28,400,000 for home made explosives.

Try making them (*) without killing yourself, knocking your house down or
alerting the neighbours.

It is easy for people on websites to post recopies which the Daily Mail can
get into a huff about. The hard part is making it work.

--
(*) In a sufficient quantity to do harm to at least one other person

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <C2hVg.51714$E67.31280@clgrps13>,
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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I see terrorist attack doesn't make the top twenty then That war on
tobacco really needs to get started soon.

WHAT!! How dare you! Why, some of our finest congress things are supported
by the good folks that make cigarettes.

And large parts of the budgets of most states.

 

[T Wake]

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:C2hVg.51714$E67.31280@clgrps13...

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
news:sMSdnbsYYP59D7jYRVnyjQ@pipex.net...

I see terrorist attack doesn't make the top twenty then That war on
tobacco really needs to get started soon.

WHAT!! How dare you! Why, some of our finest congress things are supported
by the good folks that make cigarettes.

Fair point. Let us declare war on the things which kill less people then

Who is up for the war on fruit flies?