Jihad needs scientists

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:

If they did all this on their own, then may be we should be worried.

I think that's exactly the point.

You think we should be very worried?

Yes and no. I don't think there's a huge actual threat but we should be
concerned about the alienation of young Muslims ( and how and why of course ).

Me personally, I think they are no different (if slightly more suicidal)
than the idiots who were IRA bombers in the seventies. Slightly less scary
though.

The IRA made bigger bombs.

Graham

 

[JoeBloe]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:06:53 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> Gave us:

Nonsense. Better double up on your hat.

The fart sounds and smells that guy emits will still ring (wring)
through. :-]

 

[Eeyore]

Daniel Mandic wrote:

I think you can count up to two, or three. At four you have actualley
stucked, as many other .... unfortunately.

Who is it now? The world leader... Rusia? USA? Europe?

No, no wait... it's the Moonstation Captain speaking to you... brzzz,
breeek, pam. USA - is - the - World - Moon - Leader -.

WhY? just look to the weird people there, buying claims on the moon. I
believe you could defent taht claims, but that shows even more that the
pure moron is found in the United States of America.

You're *so* right !

Graham :~)

 

[JoeBloe]

On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:07:34 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> Gave us:

In article <45241443.FB093847@hotmail.com>,
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com says...


Keith wrote:

jfields@austininstruments.com says...

Graham is vehemently anti-American, as can be seen in his posts
which have nothing to do with US policy.

Yep! ...right down to the way local school districts run their
school buses. He knows all.

It seems Americans are too stupid to even consider the concept of double decker
buses if you need to move more ppl than fit in a single deck one !

See folks" He is _that_ stupid.

Yes. The difference between little London streets and the
metropolises contained in this country are vast.
There would be double decker spill overs everywhere. Most places
wouldn't support them at all due to the way our traffic light/power
line systems are strung.

He falls into the category of "Big Dope".

 

[Daniel Mandic]

Eeyore wrote:

John Fields wrote:

My reference to not speaking English as a first language was a
euphemism for being conquered, which was related to an earlier post
by Graham stating that had the US not become involved in WW2,
England and Germany might have teamed up to fight Russia after
Germany double-crossed Russia. In my opinion that would have been
suicide for England, as depleted as it would have been, when Russia
came rolling in to get Germany.

It wouldn't just have been Britain and Germany you clot !

Graham

He knows nothing about the 'Britonia Story' and the Austrian emigrant
(Hi.... is just an artist name, nothing real), knowing that period of
time better, thusand years afterwards.



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

[Daniel Mandic]

John Fields wrote:

My reference to not speaking English as a first language was a
euphemism for being conquered, which was related to an earlier post
by Graham stating that had the US not become involved in WW2,
England and Germany might have teamed up to fight Russia after
Germany double-crossed Russia. In my opinion that would have been
suicide for England, as depleted as it would have been, when Russia
came rolling in to get Germany.

So yes, the question was loaded, but it wasn't Monday morning
quarterbacking. Monday morning quarterbacking would have been more
like: "If only Germany had done thus and such, she would have won."

What things do you write about. My dear, your insights of the Human
history is reduced to a period of 7 years, yes?

C'mon, let's get some million years back.....



Best regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: And how does Na.. shi.. Time relate to 'Jihad need Scientists'?

 

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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I see terrorist attack doesn't make the top twenty then That war on
tobacco really needs to get started soon.

It has, thankfully. Most major cities in the US ban tobacco use in public
places, and several states are considering state-wide bans. Still perfectly
legal at home and in most places outdoors, but at least I can eat dinner in
a restaurant without smoke making me physically ill.

Eric Lucas

 

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

What does the USA get out of it ? Apart from terrorist attacks ?

Well, my personal feeling is that changing your foreign policy as
the result of terrorist attacks is _always_ wrong.

You'd be insane to ignore the reasons !

What reasons?

If you mean countries should adjust their policy at the whim of
bombers then I hope you never run for political office.

Like I said. You'd be insane not to consider the why of it.

Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean the "why of it?"

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make it.

Why would ppl want to bomb us ?

Because some people are bad.

Sure but WHY ? Even bad ppl need some kind of reason !

There is an interesting twist on your posts. You appear to think it logical
to say all Americans want to do is bomb every one else and are happy for
pointing out that they are (generally) aggressive war mongerers.

OK.

Then in this line, you think it is possible to be in a situation where other
people
would not want to bomb us because ( I assume) we [tinw] are so good and
nice.

Until we got into the Iraq war they *didn't* !

In global politics it is never going to be possible to not offend someone.
Ever.

For sure. But there are degrees of pissing ppl off.

When that someone turns out to be mad, the risk of them retaliating is high.

Take this example. Dispute between country A and country B. Superpower A is
asked to help solve the dispute. Citizens of country B feel Superpower A
went against their best interests and bomb Superpower A a bit.

Superpower A, thinks I don't want to be bombed and changes its policy.

Now Country A (quite rightly) gets offended. Fortunately for them, the
precedence has been set and they bomb Superpower A for a while.

Superpower A, thinks I don't want to be bombed and changes its policy.

Can you see where this is heading?

Changing the policy of a democratically elected government in response to
violence or the threats of violence is (IMHO obviously) madness.

What if the policy was fundamentally wrong in the first place ? Are we not to
revise it for fear of being seen 'weak' ?

Graham

 

[Daniel Mandic]

JoeBloe wrote:

Fuck off, retard.

You are far away from being a petard. You are a singular minded bother,
nothing else... If NOT!!! Then show up your character! (4 is also
allowed...)


Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

 

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Not sure about spelling, but I've read some very well-researched
serious scholarly linguistic articles that say that the British English
accent at the time of the American colonies was very much closer to the
current New England accent than to the current variety of British
accents. It seems speech in the "colonies" was and is much more
conservative than speech in the mother land. I don't remember what
their evidence was, there are obviously no audio tapes to compare.

It has the potential (and that dreaded "ring of truth") however the
reality is possibly very, very far from the case.

Both sets of languages have had an equal time to "evolve" into their
current form. The US has been much more influenced by immigrant
linguistics over that period than England has, so I am inclined to doubt
the validity of the claim.

I suspect both languages are equally distant from the English spoken in
(say) 1775.

Yeah, I know, those were all *exactly* the same response I had when I
first heard the thesis. But I do remember that the evidence was
convincing. Dammit all, I wish I could remember where I read/saw that. I
don't expect you to take my word for it, but to me, it really was more
convincing than I've managed to convey.

It would be interesting to see it.

Some linguists even interpret the shifts in England as related to
blueblood Londoners putting on airs, and that accent subsequently
catching on in other parts of the country. I suspect this last part is
a bit of a stretch, but the whole thing is an interesting thesis. I
find it fascinating to think about how people spoke in the past, and
how language has evolved. Puts a whole new perspective in the various
new inner-city lexicons and pronunciations that have developed, even in
my lifetime.

Languages evolve all the time. Welsh is a good example.

Yep, that's what I find so fascinating. So, did Welsh get all the extra
consonants that would otherwise have gone with the vowels ("u") you
English stole? :^)


Yes. It is even funnier listening to their conversation because all the
modern words are in English. So you get "bable bable Television bable
bable microwave cooker bable bable" and so on.

Kind of like reading a Korean/Japanese/Chinese chemistry patent. A lot of
stuff that looks like Martian (for all I know), interspersed with chemical
names.

Eric Lucas

 

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:

Military Police patrolling civilian towns is not normal... The fact
the idea was even suggested is shocking and I am ex-Army.

What was the idea behind the use of MPs ?

Civilian police were too undermanned to provide a suitable presence at
weekends and it was thought that most of the drinkers would be local
soldiers.

I can see the logic in that.

Possibly. It is wrong though. If you were a local civilian caught up in it,
how would you feel being arrested by Military Police?

I'd have thought they would only have the right to arrest soldiers. I imagine
they might detain civilians until the regular police could arrive.

Graham

 

[YD]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:09:10 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:40:45 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:58:53 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:43:32 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:

[snip]

Most certainly Jim's claim to be libertarian.

- YD.

[cross-posting to non S.E.D deleted]

War: To the right of Attila the Hun
Threat to the US in any form: Nuk'em
Religious terrorists: Kill and desecrate their bodies
Guns: Everyone should have at least one, AND sufficient ammo
Economics: No taxes except for infrastructure; free market,
no gov't controls, no social legislation
Abortion: Pro
Stem Cell Research: Pro
Personal Consumption of Drugs: Go ahead and kill yourself if you like
Gay: I could care less... just stay out of my face
Religion: I could care less... just stay out of my face
Democrats: OK, if you are that ignorant... just stay out of my face
In my face: Eat a bullet
Global warming caused by man: Hogwash
Graham/Eeyore: Ignorance to the point of PRICELESS ;-)
Eric Lucas: A close second

Sounds Libertarian to me ;-)


No, it doesn't.

- YD.

Which part doesn't meet your expectation ?

...Jim Thompson

Pretty much all of the redneck attitude.

- YD.

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[Eeyore]

Homer J Simpson wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in

20,000 killed by sex and yet only 13,426 of that number from Aids ? What's
going on ?

That's what comes of abstinence only courses. They don't get the message
about lamp sockets.

LMAO !

Graham

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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WhY? just look to the weird people there, buying claims on the moon. I
believe you could defent taht claims, but that shows even more that the
pure moron is found in the United States of America.

You're *so* right !

No, but I do think that the inhabitants of the US are the most gullible
people on earth. Odd, because with so much deceptive advertising and often
outright lying in advertising you'd think they would be immune to BS.

 

[Eeyore]

Kurt Ullman wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

They gave up on the job.

They are still looking. Just don't have a bunch of people delegated
to that job specifically. I am on record from soon after 9/11 as saying
specifically targeting OBL like that was a dumb idea. Took assets away
from other more pressing issues.

What more pressing issues ?

I've read that US Special Forces reckoned they were hot on his heels in
Afghanistan until they were pulled off the job to train for Iraq.

Graham

 

[YD]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:43:07 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

YD wrote:

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 20:13:35 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Jim Thompson wrote:

I should know shortly what low-life job Eric has at Battelle... my
guess is janitor ;-)


Are you sure they would give him that much responsibility?


It is interesting that instead of disagreeing with Eric's comments and
explaining why, the general response has been to criticise his imagined work
status.

Nothing I have seen in this thread seems to relate to his job and he has not
claimed professional authority based on his employment so what, on Earth,
does his job matter?

Unless this really is a pathetic attempt to "one up" on someone you think is
in a lower paid / less "exalted" job. If it is, you really should be ashamed
of yourselves.


It's just a bunch of obnoxious bitter old men and has-beens with no
real control over much of anything anymore. They've transferred their
lives to this ng. Their only way of one-upping is to degrade those not
espousing their POVs to below their level with name calling and
ridicule with no substance of fact.

Makes them look like school-yard bullies or teen-age gangs hanging out
on street corners.

Overall damn immature, and that goes for those bothering to keep it
going too.


Bitter? Are you sure? In truth, we enjoy watching morons prove
their stupidity, day by day, and hour by hour.

Positively so. All you have left is posing as powerful know-it-alls on
the internet.

Ever tried to figure what you look like to those outside of your tight
little circle of cronies?

- YD.

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[Eeyore]

John Fields wrote:

I was born in Panama and raised in the Canal Zone, and there were
tugs on my heartstrings when Carter gave that toy "back" to Panama.

You have a heart ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

JoeBloe wrote:

Hey! Donkey boy! We don't want the polygraph answer, donkey boy...
We want the long, technical response.

What do you do for an encore ?

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:08:27 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com
wrote:

[snip]
or the gas tanks of '69
Dodge Chargers (I will never let my friend live that one down) or...

Bwahahahahaha! ROTFLMAO! I guess that one way to get lead in your
dick ;-)

...Jim Thompson

You're tedous and dull Thompson.

Go play with your biker mates.

Graham

 

[YD]

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:30:50 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <%8RUg.8425$GR.1728@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
lucasea@sbcglobal.net says...

"Keith" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
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Oh, you mean like the Reagen and Clinton administrations did with Osama
bin Laden when he was fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan?

Sadly, yes.

Another idiot heard from.

You don't believe that former administrations provided substantial support
to two people/organizations who have subsequently turned against the US?
You need to read more, it's well-known.

It's well known that the Quarterbacking on Monday morning is much
better than that on Sunday afternoon too. What a maroon!

You should return that computer you're using. When the salesman asks
why tell him you're too stupid to use one.

- YD.

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