Is there a requirement for phones to be able to dial if the

[Rod Speed]

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In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:
1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology
and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like
replacing
poles etc.

Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car
crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off.
It
is
a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend
to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

More pig ignorant drivel.

Dunno about those private blokes, but the good citizens of the tourist
ghetto of Cairns have long suffered from a combination of poor
maintenance and under-capacity of the retail distribution network --
always assuming I can take the whinges in the daily tabloid at face
value.

Bet its mostly under capacity retail distribution network.

Yeah, I have the impression it's mostly that -- but they have had
quite a few poles simply fall down in the past couple of years due to
lack of maintenance/replacement.

OK, thats certainly poor maintenance. Just got one myself, my
personal power pole is whiteant riddled. Still pretty solid. Corse
we dont know that they wouldnt have replaced it before it fell down.

Second rate poor quality material in the first place.

Mindlessly superficial.

Cement is far more solid and doesn't deplete forests either.

But fucks the enviroment.

NSW has a habit of building cheap infrastructure then suffering for it.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

Also a number of insulator failures attributed to "the drought"
by the spin doctors. (May be something in this one -- they
seemed to believe it themselves enough to hire
helicopters to go around and wash the bloody things!)

Yeah, its a real problem. Doesnt actually cause mains
failure, just a damned nuisance interference wise.

 

[Rod Speed]

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There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It
is a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

Absolute load of shit.



Mikey, you obviously have now power industry knowledge.

Neither do you.

Stick to what you know best - selling phone plans.

You cant even manage that.

 

[Michael]

OK, thats certainly poor maintenance. Just got one myself, my
personal power pole is whiteant riddled. Still pretty solid. Corse
we dont know that they wouldnt have replaced it before it fell down.


Second rate poor quality material in the first place.

Cement is far more solid and doesn't deplete forests either.

No, thanks, over SA way last week and those cement power poles with metal
either side look completely shit and cheap

Wooden poles are a renewable resource.

Also a number of insulator failures attributed to "the drought"
by the spin doctors. (May be something in this one -- they
seemed to believe it themselves enough to hire
helicopters to go around and wash the bloody things!)

Yeah, its a real problem. Doesnt actually cause mains
failure, just a damned nuisance interference wise.

I heard in very dry times, when it finally rains, the build up of dust /
dirt can cause problems as the whole mass becomes electrified????

 

[Michael]

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There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off.
It
is a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW
don't
tend to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

Absolute load of shit.



Mikey, you obviously have now power industry knowledge.

Yes, thanks

Stick to what you know best - selling phone plans.

I tell you what, you are probably a bleeding heart, fuckwit Liberal.

We've seen the results of privisation in Victoria and its just fucked.
the SECV is down the tubes and we did initially suffer with price issues and
reliability issues when privitised

The "privitised" train system here is completely fucked.

Private owners DO NOT take better care of their assets, especially not power
companies

 

[Phred]

In article <2Y4Hd.123101$K7.121979@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

OK, thats certainly poor maintenance. Just got one myself, my
personal power pole is whiteant riddled. Still pretty solid. Corse
we dont know that they wouldnt have replaced it before it fell down.


Second rate poor quality material in the first place.

Cement is far more solid and doesn't deplete forests either.

No, thanks, over SA way last week and those cement power poles with metal
either side look completely shit and cheap

Wooden poles are a renewable resource.

Also a number of insulator failures attributed to "the drought"
by the spin doctors. (May be something in this one -- they
seemed to believe it themselves enough to hire
helicopters to go around and wash the bloody things!)

Yeah, its a real problem. Doesnt actually cause mains
failure, just a damned nuisance interference wise.

I heard in very dry times, when it finally rains, the build up of dust /
dirt can cause problems as the whole mass becomes electrified????

Yeah. That's what they were claiming was the cause of some pole-top
short-circuits around Cairns. Had some fires on the poles too, but
I'm not sure if that was claimed to part of the same process.

Cheers, Phred.

--
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID

 

[Rod Speed]

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OK, thats certainly poor maintenance. Just got one myself, my
personal power pole is whiteant riddled. Still pretty solid. Corse
we dont know that they wouldnt have replaced it before it fell down.


Second rate poor quality material in the first place.

Cement is far more solid and doesn't deplete forests either.

No, thanks, over SA way last week and those cement power poles with metal
either side look completely shit and cheap

Wooden poles are a renewable resource.

Also a number of insulator failures attributed to "the drought"
by the spin doctors. (May be something in this one -- they
seemed to believe it themselves enough to hire
helicopters to go around and wash the bloody things!)

Yeah, its a real problem. Doesnt actually cause mains
failure, just a damned nuisance interference wise.

I heard in very dry times, when it finally rains, the build up of dust /
dirt can cause problems as the whole mass becomes electrified????

Thats what you get from listening to clowns that dont have a clue.

 

[Brendon]

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The "privitised" train system here is completely fucked.

The public Cityrail system in NSW is also fucked.

 

[The Family]

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"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The "privitised" train system here is completely fucked.

The public Cityrail system in NSW is also fucked.

Ask Qld (and soon NSW) people about what they think of the reliability of
their power supplies. Bad and getting worse due to decades of investment
neglect. Govt is a bad asset owner and treats the power business as a cash
cow. It ain't.

 

[The Family]

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We've seen the results of privisation in Victoria and its just fucked.
the SECV is down the tubes and we did initially suffer with price issues
and
reliability issues when privitised

Pretty good now though due to good, professional asset management. You can
also bask comfortably in the knowledge that pricing is about right and not
hidden in the State tax system.

Victorian and SA outage data has been improving steadily while in Qld and
NSW it is degrading. The gap between the reliability of privatised and
state-owned systems is becoming stark and voters in the northern states are
asking "why?" In Qld they're doing so to the extent that Beattie is now
worried about his re-election chances. Ever wondered why Egan (NSW) has
just quit?

SECV was once a financial basket case that Victorians were paying an arm and
a leg for, despite the illusion of low tariffs. It was run by the same
mentality that drove SBV broke.

Vics are STILL paying for the legacy of that "great" deal to supply power to
Alcoa's aluminium plant (a huge power user). Alcoa's US shareholders have
been laughing all the way to the bank for years on that one.

 

[Rod Speed]

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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

No, thanks, over SA way last week and those cement power
poles with metal either side look completely shit and cheap

Look bad. Last ages. Saved countless trees.
Many are well over 50 years old.

So are many timber poles.

I like the more recent designs that are now widely used in Vic and SA

More fool you.

- they look like wood but they're actually concrete-clad steel.

Wota packa silly wankers.

 

[Rod Speed]

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Brendon <no@way.man> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

The "privitised" train system here is completely fucked.

The public Cityrail system in NSW is also fucked.

Ask Qld (and soon NSW) people about what
they think of the reliability of their power supplies.

NSW is fine. And what most care about is power costs, not reliability.

Bad and getting worse due to decades of investment neglect.

Not around here it aint.

Govt is a bad asset owner and treats the
power business as a cash cow. It ain't.

Corse Kennett didnt flogged his power system for the cash, eh ?

Wota fucking wanker.

 

[Rod Speed]

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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

We've seen the results of privisation in Victoria and its just
fucked. the SECV is down the tubes and we did initially
suffer with price issues and reliability issues when privitised

Pretty good now though due to good, professional asset management.

Have fun explaining the power shortage problems. SA in spades.

And the reliability issues werent actually due to privatisation, eh ?

You can also bask comfortably in the knowledge that
pricing is about right and not hidden in the State tax system.

Mindless stuff.

Victorian and SA outage data has been improving steadily

Pity about how dramatically it went down hill on privatisation.

It'd need to improve, stupid.

while in Qld and NSW it is degrading.

Lie with NSW.

The gap between the reliability of privatised
and state-owned systems is becoming stark

You're lying again when comparing Vic and NSW.

and voters in the northern states are asking "why?"

Their problem. NSW voters aint, you're lying again.

In Qld they're doing so to the extent that Beattie
is now worried about his re-election chances.

You're lying again. He just pretends to, just like he did in the runup
to the last election when he got the best Qld result for decades.

Ever wondered why Egan (NSW) has just quit?

He's been there long enough for it to be boring, fuckwit.

SECV was once a financial basket case that Victorians were
paying an arm and a leg for, despite the illusion of low tariffs.
It was run by the same mentality that drove SBV broke.

And that aint happening in NSW, liar.

We never did have the terminal stupiditys
that labor managed in the southern states.

Vics are STILL paying for the legacy of that "great" deal to supply power
to Alcoa's aluminium plant (a huge power user). Alcoa's US shareholders
have been laughing all the way to the bank for years on that one.

Yet another labor terminal stupidity.

 

[Michael]

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The "privitised" train system here is completely fucked.

The public Cityrail system in NSW is also fucked.

Good

 

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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

We've seen the results of privisation in Victoria and its just
fucked. the SECV is down the tubes and we did initially
suffer with price issues and reliability issues when privitised

Pretty good now though due to good, professional asset management.

Have fun explaining the power shortage problems. SA in spades.

No power shortages in SA or Vic. The market responded by quickly building
more capacity. Not so in NSW - watch out Sydneysiders.

And the reliability issues werent actually due to privatisation, eh ?

Reliability was due to a fucked State system. Now fixed by the private
owners in Vic and SA.

You can also bask comfortably in the knowledge that
pricing is about right and not hidden in the State tax system.

Mindless stuff.

Victorian and SA outage data has been improving steadily

Pity about how dramatically it went down hill on privatisation.

No. The data only became public following privatisation.

It'd need to improve, stupid.

It did.

while in Qld and NSW it is degrading.

Lie with NSW.

Look at the data yourself on the nemmco website.
NSW outage stats are getting steadily worse.

The gap between the reliability of privatised
and state-owned systems is becoming stark

You're lying again when comparing Vic and NSW.

Basis?

I base my data on nemmco.

and voters in the northern states are asking "why?"

Their problem. NSW voters aint, you're lying again.

You don't live in the Blue Mtns, Newcastle or W'gong. SYD will get its
turn, mark my words. Already less reliable there than Mel or Adl. You've
said elsewhere that you put up with outages.

In Qld they're doing so to the extent that Beattie
is now worried about his re-election chances.

Pretends? I guess the head of the Qld electricity authority just
"pretended" to suicide, huh?

Power issues in Qld are VERY serious.

You're lying again. He just pretends to, just like he did in the runup
to the last election when he got the best Qld result for decades.

Ever wondered why Egan (NSW) has just quit?

He's been there long enough for it to be boring, fuckwit.

Do a little thinking...

SECV was once a financial basket case that Victorians were
paying an arm and a leg for, despite the illusion of low tariffs.
It was run by the same mentality that drove SBV broke.

And that aint happening in NSW, liar.

Like the electricity hedging contract that Egan's boys lost a mozza on.
Head in the sand stuff, buddy. Keep your eyes closed and you'll never see
the lights go out.

We never did have the terminal stupiditys
that labor managed in the southern states.

And in the cas of the power system, private capital fixed, quickly.

Anyway, how old are you? Obviously don't remember the 60's. NSW power -
laughing stock of the western world.

Vics are STILL paying for the legacy of that "great" deal to supply
power
to Alcoa's aluminium plant (a huge power user). Alcoa's US shareholders
have been laughing all the way to the bank for years on that one.

Yet another labor terminal stupidity.

Agreed.

>

 

[The Family]

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The "privitised" train system here is completely fucked.

The public Cityrail system in NSW is also fucked.

Good

Yep. And the Melbourne system doesn't have a habit of killing people.

 

[Kwyjibo]

"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> said

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Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

We've seen the results of privisation in Victoria and its just
fucked. the SECV is down the tubes and we did initially
suffer with price issues and reliability issues when privitised

Pretty good now though due to good, professional asset management.

Have fun explaining the power shortage problems. SA in spades.

No power shortages in SA or Vic.

Dunno about SA but that's definitely wrong for Vic.
There was no expansion in capacity at all in Vic between 1992 and 2003 -
Despite a 20% annual increase in demand.
After the rationing and blackouts we had in 2000 Bracks made a promise to
provide an additional power station. This promise was met with cries of
anguish from the power companies who were concerned that another station
would mean reduced charges per kWh.

The market responded by quickly building
more capacity.

This coming from a fuckwit who thinks that a week to fix a phone is
unacceptable. What absolute bullshit. 11 years is not a 'quick' response.

Explain why Bracks keeps telling us to prepare for extended power outages
during hot weather.

Not so in NSW - watch out Sydneysiders.

Utter bullshit.

And the reliability issues werent actually due to privatisation, eh ?


Reliability was due to a fucked State system. Now fixed by the private
owners in Vic and SA.

Pity the facts don't seem to back up your piece of fiction.

http://tinyurl.com/3oant


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(Remove your panties to reply by email)

 

[Rod Speed]

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Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
The Family <someone@somewhere.com> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

We've seen the results of privisation in Victoria and its just
fucked. the SECV is down the tubes and we did initially
suffer with price issues and reliability issues when privitised

Pretty good now though due to good, professional asset management.

Have fun explaining the power shortage problems. SA in spades.

No power shortages in SA or Vic.

Caught lying again.

The market responded by quickly building more capacity.

Pity they didnt build it before any effect on the customers, liar.

Not so in NSW - watch out Sydneysiders.

Lying again.

And the reliability issues werent actually due to privatisation, eh ?

Reliability was due to a fucked State system.

Pathetic, really.

Now fixed by the private owners in Vic and SA.

Lying again.

You can also bask comfortably in the knowledge that
pricing is about right and not hidden in the State tax system.

Mindless stuff.

Victorian and SA outage data has been improving steadily

Pity about how dramatically it went down hill on privatisation.

No.

Yep.

The data only became public following privatisation.

Lying again.

It'd need to improve, stupid.

It did.

Only after they looked VERY hopeless indeed.

while in Qld and NSW it is degrading.

Lie with NSW.

Look at the data yourself on the nemmco website.
NSW outage stats are getting steadily worse.

Lying again.

The gap between the reliability of privatised
and state-owned systems is becoming stark

You're lying again when comparing Vic and NSW.

Basis?

YOU made the claim.

YOU get to substantiate your claim.

THATS how it works.

I base my data on nemmco.

You're lying again.

and voters in the northern states are asking "why?"

Their problem. NSW voters aint, you're lying again.

You don't live in the Blue Mtns, Newcastle or W'gong.

You're lying about those.

SYD will get its turn, mark my words.

Anyone with any sense flushes your lies.

Already less reliable there than Mel or Adl.

You're lying again.

You've said elsewhere that you put up with outages.

Everyone does, you lying arsehole.

In Qld they're doing so to the extent that Beattie
is now worried about his re-election chances.

You're lying again. He just pretends to, just like he did in the runup
to the last election when he got the best Qld result for decades.

Pretends?

Yep, even you should have noticed that in the runup to the last Qld
election, if you ever managed to take your head out of your arse.

I guess the head of the Qld electricity
authority just "pretended" to suicide, huh?

Sweet fuck all to do with Bleaty pretending that he might lose the election.

Power issues in Qld are VERY serious.

You're lying again.

Ever wondered why Egan (NSW) has just quit?

He's been there long enough for it to be boring, fuckwit.

Do a little thinking...

Wota fucking wanker.

SECV was once a financial basket case that Victorians were
paying an arm and a leg for, despite the illusion of low tariffs.
It was run by the same mentality that drove SBV broke.

And that aint happening in NSW, liar.

Like the electricity hedging contract that Egan's boys lost a mozza on.

Not the slightest possibility of that sending them bust, fuckwit.

We never did have the terminal stupiditys
that labor managed in the southern states.

And in the cas of the power system, private capital fixed, quickly.

You're lying again.

Anyway, how old are you?

Older than you, lying cock sucker.

Obviously don't remember the 60's. NSW
power - laughing stock of the western world.

You're lying again. And even someone as stupid as you should
have noticed that that got fixed and they are STILL govt owned.

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed what
happend in NZ WITH THEIR PRIVATISED SYSTEM.

And then there's the tiny problem the
PRIVATISED system in Vic had with gas too.

Keep desperately lying. You might actually manage to fool someone, sometime.

Vics are STILL paying for the legacy of that "great" deal to supply power
to Alcoa's aluminium plant (a huge power user). Alcoa's US shareholders
have been laughing all the way to the bank for years on that one.

Yet another labor terminal stupidity.

Agreed.

So it aint relevant to govt ownership, JUST to
the terminal stupidity that Labor can produce.

Kennett never did anything so stupid.

 

[The Family]

"Kwyjibo" <Kwyjibo@YourPantiesozdebate.com> wrote in message
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Pity the facts don't seem to back up your piece of fiction.

http://tinyurl.com/3oant

Gotta admire your propensity to troll for so-called facts that back your
case - even when they're misquoted by a newspaper via someone who heard
someone say something to a pollie.

Worst of all, you quote from a newspaper column that's well over 2 years
old.

To quote you, yes, it does take time to fix badly managed power systems.
Fortunately, private operators can usually build peaking power stations with
good capacity in less than a year. I recall governments taking 10 years to
perform similar 'feats.'

The good news: there is much more capacity now. It came on-line over the
past 3 years and it means, in essence, that there's good reserves of supply
in Vic and SA. And it didn't cost either state govt a cent.

 

[The Family]

Nothing new here. Case closed.

(But feel free to add another silly comment if you wish, Mr Speed. I'm sure
you can't resist. For my part, I'll let it rest.)


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The Family <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in
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Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
The Family <someone@somewhere.com> wrote
Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote

We've seen the results of privisation in Victoria and its just
fucked. the SECV is down the tubes and we did initially
suffer with price issues and reliability issues when privitised

Pretty good now though due to good, professional asset management.

Have fun explaining the power shortage problems. SA in spades.

No power shortages in SA or Vic.

Caught lying again.

The market responded by quickly building more capacity.

Pity they didnt build it before any effect on the customers, liar.

Not so in NSW - watch out Sydneysiders.

Lying again.

And the reliability issues werent actually due to privatisation, eh ?

Reliability was due to a fucked State system.

Pathetic, really.

Now fixed by the private owners in Vic and SA.

Lying again.

You can also bask comfortably in the knowledge that
pricing is about right and not hidden in the State tax system.

Mindless stuff.

Victorian and SA outage data has been improving steadily

Pity about how dramatically it went down hill on privatisation.

No.

Yep.

The data only became public following privatisation.

Lying again.

It'd need to improve, stupid.

It did.

Only after they looked VERY hopeless indeed.

while in Qld and NSW it is degrading.

Lie with NSW.

Look at the data yourself on the nemmco website.
NSW outage stats are getting steadily worse.

Lying again.

The gap between the reliability of privatised
and state-owned systems is becoming stark

You're lying again when comparing Vic and NSW.

Basis?

YOU made the claim.

YOU get to substantiate your claim.

THATS how it works.

I base my data on nemmco.

You're lying again.

and voters in the northern states are asking "why?"

Their problem. NSW voters aint, you're lying again.

You don't live in the Blue Mtns, Newcastle or W'gong.

You're lying about those.

SYD will get its turn, mark my words.

Anyone with any sense flushes your lies.

Already less reliable there than Mel or Adl.

You're lying again.

You've said elsewhere that you put up with outages.

Everyone does, you lying arsehole.

In Qld they're doing so to the extent that Beattie
is now worried about his re-election chances.

You're lying again. He just pretends to, just like he did in the runup
to the last election when he got the best Qld result for decades.

Pretends?

Yep, even you should have noticed that in the runup to the last Qld
election, if you ever managed to take your head out of your arse.

I guess the head of the Qld electricity
authority just "pretended" to suicide, huh?

Sweet fuck all to do with Bleaty pretending that he might lose the
election.

Power issues in Qld are VERY serious.

You're lying again.

Ever wondered why Egan (NSW) has just quit?

He's been there long enough for it to be boring, fuckwit.

Do a little thinking...

Wota fucking wanker.

SECV was once a financial basket case that Victorians were
paying an arm and a leg for, despite the illusion of low tariffs.
It was run by the same mentality that drove SBV broke.

And that aint happening in NSW, liar.

Like the electricity hedging contract that Egan's boys lost a mozza on.

Not the slightest possibility of that sending them bust, fuckwit.

We never did have the terminal stupiditys
that labor managed in the southern states.

And in the cas of the power system, private capital fixed, quickly.

You're lying again.

Anyway, how old are you?

Older than you, lying cock sucker.

Obviously don't remember the 60's. NSW
power - laughing stock of the western world.

You're lying again. And even someone as stupid as you should
have noticed that that got fixed and they are STILL govt owned.

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed what
happend in NZ WITH THEIR PRIVATISED SYSTEM.

And then there's the tiny problem the
PRIVATISED system in Vic had with gas too.

Keep desperately lying. You might actually manage to fool someone,
sometime.

Vics are STILL paying for the legacy of that "great" deal to supply
power
to Alcoa's aluminium plant (a huge power user). Alcoa's US
shareholders
have been laughing all the way to the bank for years on that one.

Yet another labor terminal stupidity.

Agreed.

So it aint relevant to govt ownership, JUST to
the terminal stupidity that Labor can produce.

Kennett never did anything so stupid.

 

[Rod Speed]

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Kwyjibo <Kwyjibo@YourPantiesozdebate.com> wrote

Pity the facts don't seem to back up your piece of fiction.

http://tinyurl.com/3oant

Gotta admire your propensity to troll for so-called facts that back your
case - even when they're misquoted by a newspaper via someone who heard
someone say something to a pollie.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of your predicament
better than that pathetic effort. It exposes your lie that there has been
no power shortages with the privatised systems in Vic and SA, liar.

Worst of all, you quote from a newspaper column that's well over 2 years old.

Irrelevant, thats when the power shortages happened, fuckwit.

To quote you, yes, it does take time to fix badly managed power systems.

More flagrant lying. The shortages in Vic particularly only happened
well AFTER the privatisation of the power generation industry. If the
privatised industry had been as effective as you stupidly pig ignorantly
claimed, it wouldnt have happened, liar.

Fortunately, private operators can usually build peaking power stations with
good capacity in less than a year. I recall governments taking 10 years to
perform similar 'feats.'

Separate issue entirely to your stupid pig ignorant claim that
power shortages dont happen with a privatised generation industry.

You lied, as usual.

And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed what
happened with the privatised gas industry in Vic when it went bang.

The good news: there is much more capacity now. It came on-line over the
past 3 years and it means, in essence, that there's good reserves of supply in
Vic and SA. And it didn't cost either state govt a cent.

Pity about what it costs the consumer in higher power charges.