Is there a requirement for phones to be able to dial if the

If all else fails, build one yourself. Appropriate rechargeable
batteries,
wiring and a plug pack (it sounds like you already own the latter)
should do
the trick.

Yeah, I was originally thinking of using a 12V SLA with a float charger
and a 9V regulator, but that's most likely overkill. I could probably
get away with 7 NiCd batteries, two diodes, a resistor and the existing
plugpack.
You are all nerds.

Get a double adapter for the socket. cost = $3.
Go to your local market and buy a spare T200. cost = $5.

Should lack of power arise, connect T200 to double adapter socket.

Problem solved.

Sheesh
 
"Ed" <eddie_nospam@optusnet.com> wrote in message
news:41e48ba7$0$2869$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
get an old gsm phone for $10 or so, you dont need a valid sim card
it has a battery, charge it up once a month or so
call 112 if you need to call emergency services
Unreliable. Who is going to remember to charge it up once a month?

A T200 in the cupboard will be fine
googlegroups@sensation.net.au> wrote in message
news:1105485954.685377.322870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
One of the first things I noticed about our Uniden DECT phones is that
the base station dies completely if there is a power failure. Obviously
the communication with handsets is out the window, but there is not
even a basic dial-talk-listen service available via the speakerphone.

I seem to remember some requirement that Australian phones must be able
to dial 000 at all times, is my memory failing, or outdated? :)

It's ironic that the handsets have battery power, but the base doesn't.
Has anyone come up with a simple mini-UPS solution for this type of
situation? The plugpack puts out 9VDC @350mA.
 
"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:34k7t6F4cl7m2U1@individual.net...
Hardly and suppliers of any decent handsets these days. Yeah the Big W
ones
are cheap, yet the more expensive ones at DSE and the likes are not much
better. Even Telstra's standard handset is some el cheapo plastic heap of
crap nowadays.
You dont need a 'decent' handset.
A phone that makes and receives calls for $10 is quite reasonable
 
Best get those ears tested. I doubt we get
more than one a year or so and much less
that are out for more than a few minutes.

One a year, that's poor service quality.
Nope, fits the regulations and internal rules of good service

Hmm. I can't recall precisely when the power last went off where I
live... it was years ago.

That'd be unusual Aust wide.

Wrong again, as always.
Nope, you are wrong.
In 2.5 years the power has probably been off here 6 times.
Not too bad
 
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
Pointless, we wouldnt qualify and I dont agree with that
sort of terminal stupidity anyway. I prefer to have lower
power bills when they take reasonable steps to deliver
power reliably and accept the fact that there will be
some times that they need to turn it off deliberately etc.

You would where I live.

1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
What a load of shite. 1 hour is just one hour.
What kind of a pathetic wanker are you? You should be in the pool or
listening to the cricket on your battery powered transistor radio.

Or get off your arse and take a one hour walk
 
"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:34k7fbF4dfmreU1@individual.net...
Not to mention that there is never any comparison to the audio quality of
a
hard-wired handset. Even the best DECT fancy handsets often have some low
level noise, or the sidetone is never the same as a normal hardwired
handset - not to mention the "static" on the older (analogue) cord-less
types.
My Telstra DECT phones are fine, thanks for asking
 
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Wt0Gd.118975$K7.95822@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
If all else fails, build one yourself. Appropriate rechargeable
batteries,
wiring and a plug pack (it sounds like you already own the latter)
should do
the trick.

Yeah, I was originally thinking of using a 12V SLA with a float charger
and a 9V regulator, but that's most likely overkill. I could probably
get away with 7 NiCd batteries, two diodes, a resistor and the existing
plugpack.

You are all nerds.

Get a double adapter for the socket. cost = $3.
Go to your local market and buy a spare T200. cost = $5.

Should lack of power arise, connect T200 to double adapter socket.

Problem solved.

Sheesh
I'd rather have the cordless phones continue to operate
thru a mains failure, even tho I do have the fax handset
keep working thru a mains failure thanks, dunnychild.
 
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xt0Gd.118977$K7.62774@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
"Ed" <eddie_nospam@optusnet.com> wrote in message
news:41e48ba7$0$2869$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
get an old gsm phone for $10 or so, you dont need a valid sim card
it has a battery, charge it up once a month or so
call 112 if you need to call emergency services

Unreliable. Who is going to remember to charge it up once a month?

A T200 in the cupboard will be fine
Makes more sense to have it permanantly connected.


googlegroups@sensation.net.au> wrote in message
news:1105485954.685377.322870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
One of the first things I noticed about our Uniden DECT phones is that
the base station dies completely if there is a power failure. Obviously
the communication with handsets is out the window, but there is not
even a basic dial-talk-listen service available via the speakerphone.

I seem to remember some requirement that Australian phones must be able
to dial 000 at all times, is my memory failing, or outdated? :)

It's ironic that the handsets have battery power, but the base doesn't.
Has anyone come up with a simple mini-UPS solution for this type of
situation? The plugpack puts out 9VDC @350mA.
 
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dp0Gd.118966$K7.106765@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
I seem to remember some requirement that Australian phones must be able
to dial 000 at all times, is my memory failing, or outdated? :)

Outdated.

The documentation will state quite clearly that it is not to be relied upon
as your only phone

YOU SHOULD NEVER RELY ON A RADIO BASED SERVICE AS YOUR *ONLY* EMERGENCY
CONTACT
Tad awkward running a long extension lead to the car wherever you go.

No wonder they only let you clean the dunnys.
 
In article <dp0Gd.118966$K7.106765@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

YOU SHOULD NEVER RELY ON A RADIO BASED SERVICE AS YOUR *ONLY* EMERGENCY
CONTACT
Tell that to people out in the boonies in 4WDs, aircraft or ships at sea.
 
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:

1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology and
live wire maintenance.
Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like replacing
poles etc.
 
"Mathew M." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:me-837244.16125015012005@individual.net...
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:

1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like replacing
poles etc.
Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It
is a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.
 
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:41e97f98$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Mathew M." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:me-837244.16125015012005@individual.net...
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:

1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like replacing
poles etc.

Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It is
a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't tend
to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.
More pig ignorant drivel.
 
In article <34teq5F4bbsq7U1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
<rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:41e97f98$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Mathew M." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:me-837244.16125015012005@individual.net...
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:
1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like replacing
poles etc.

Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It is
a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't tend
to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

More pig ignorant drivel.
Dunno about those private blokes, but the good citizens of the tourist
ghetto of Cairns have long suffered from a combination of poor
maintenance and under-capacity of the retail distribution network --
always assuming I can take the whinges in the daily tabloid at face
value. :)

Cheers, Phred.

--
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
 
"Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34ufhjF4gtlnvU1@individual.net...
In article <34teq5F4bbsq7U1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:41e97f98$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Mathew M." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:me-837244.16125015012005@individual.net...
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:
1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like replacing
poles etc.

Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It
is
a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend
to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

More pig ignorant drivel.

Dunno about those private blokes, but the good citizens of the tourist
ghetto of Cairns have long suffered from a combination of poor
maintenance and under-capacity of the retail distribution network --
always assuming I can take the whinges in the daily tabloid at face
value. :)
Bet its mostly under capacity retail distribution network.
 
There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It
is a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.
Absolute load of shit.
 
In article <34umg2F4fguqoU1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34ufhjF4gtlnvU1@individual.net...
In article <34teq5F4bbsq7U1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:41e97f98$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Mathew M." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:me-837244.16125015012005@individual.net...
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:
1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like replacing
poles etc.

Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It
is
a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend
to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

More pig ignorant drivel.

Dunno about those private blokes, but the good citizens of the tourist
ghetto of Cairns have long suffered from a combination of poor
maintenance and under-capacity of the retail distribution network --
always assuming I can take the whinges in the daily tabloid at face
value. :)

Bet its mostly under capacity retail distribution network.
Yeah, I have the impression it's mostly that -- but they have had
quite a few poles simply fall down in the past couple of years due to
lack of maintenance/replacement. Also a number of insulator failures
attributed to "the drought" by the spin doctors. (May be something in
this one -- they seemed to believe it themselves enough to hire
helicopters to go around and wash the bloody things!)

Cheers, Phred.

--
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
 
"Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3521htF4grrfoU1@individual.net...
In article <34umg2F4fguqoU1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com
wrote:

"Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34ufhjF4gtlnvU1@individual.net...
In article <34teq5F4bbsq7U1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:41e97f98$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Mathew M." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:me-837244.16125015012005@individual.net...
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:
1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day. It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern technology and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like replacing
poles etc.

Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off. It
is
a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend
to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

More pig ignorant drivel.

Dunno about those private blokes, but the good citizens of the tourist
ghetto of Cairns have long suffered from a combination of poor
maintenance and under-capacity of the retail distribution network --
always assuming I can take the whinges in the daily tabloid at face
value. :)

Bet its mostly under capacity retail distribution network.

Yeah, I have the impression it's mostly that -- but they have had
quite a few poles simply fall down in the past couple of years due to
lack of maintenance/replacement.
OK, thats certainly poor maintenance. Just got one myself, my
personal power pole is whiteant riddled. Still pretty solid. Corse
we dont know that they wouldnt have replaced it before it fell down.

Also a number of insulator failures attributed to "the drought"
by the spin doctors. (May be something in this one -- they
seemed to believe it themselves enough to hire
helicopters to go around and wash the bloody things!)
Yeah, its a real problem. Doesnt actually cause mains
failure, just a damned nuisance interference wise.
 
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:352ksnF4ei551U1@individual.net...
"Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3521htF4grrfoU1@individual.net...
In article <34umg2F4fguqoU1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34ufhjF4gtlnvU1@individual.net...
In article <34teq5F4bbsq7U1@individual.net>, "Rod Speed"
rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:41e97f98$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Mathew M." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:me-837244.16125015012005@individual.net...
In article <41e533cc$1@duster.adelaide.on.net>,
"The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:
1 hour is an extraordinarily long outage on a bright summer day.
It
shouldn't be that way if your distributor is using modern
technology and
live wire maintenance.

Bullshit. Plenty of cases where they have to turn it off, like
replacing
poles etc.

Not at all.

Poles have a L-O-N-G lifetime, like 30 years. Usually they can and
are
replaced with the power flowing. Except in an emergency like a car
crash,
most power line work is accomplished live.

There are very few situations that require the power to be turned
off. It
is
a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW
don't
tend
to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

More pig ignorant drivel.

Dunno about those private blokes, but the good citizens of the tourist
ghetto of Cairns have long suffered from a combination of poor
maintenance and under-capacity of the retail distribution network --
always assuming I can take the whinges in the daily tabloid at face
value. :)

Bet its mostly under capacity retail distribution network.

Yeah, I have the impression it's mostly that -- but they have had
quite a few poles simply fall down in the past couple of years due to
lack of maintenance/replacement.

OK, thats certainly poor maintenance. Just got one myself, my
personal power pole is whiteant riddled. Still pretty solid. Corse
we dont know that they wouldnt have replaced it before it fell down.
Second rate poor quality material in the first place.

Cement is far more solid and doesn't deplete forests either.

NSW has a habit of building cheap infrastructure then suffering for it.


Also a number of insulator failures attributed to "the drought"
by the spin doctors. (May be something in this one -- they
seemed to believe it themselves enough to hire
helicopters to go around and wash the bloody things!)

Yeah, its a real problem. Doesnt actually cause mains
failure, just a damned nuisance interference wise.
 
"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xKMGd.121908$K7.84473@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
There are very few situations that require the power to be turned off.
It
is a very reliable service provided proper maintenance is done, though
maintenance is something that the government owners in Qld and NSW don't
tend to do. Private owners take much better care of their assets.

Absolute load of shit.
Mikey, you obviously have now power industry knowledge.

Stick to what you know best - selling phone plans.
 

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