High speed strobe schematic query

[Scott Coutts]

Has anyone ever tried making something like this?

http://www.xtrsystems.com/strobe/strobe_light

I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds. I'm having a bit of trouble
finding some parts and also interpreting what some of the parts actually
are from the hand-drawn schematic. My electronics skills arent that
great... more the 'follow the instructions' type Can anyone help me
sort out what I actually need for this?

Cheers,

Scott.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts"

Has anyone ever tried making something like this?

http://www.xtrsystems.com/strobe/strobe_light

I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds.

** That site shows the bare bones of a LOW speed strobe with a shorter
flash duration than a photo flash.

I'm having a bit of trouble finding some parts and also interpreting what
some of the parts actually are from the hand-drawn schematic.

** Then keep away - it is a highy dangerous device and way out of your
league.

An automotive timing light might serve your purpose better anyhow.

http://www.magnumforceracing.com/flaming_river_timing_light.asp




.............. Phil

 

[Scott Coutts]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Scott Coutts"


Has anyone ever tried making something like this?

http://www.xtrsystems.com/strobe/strobe_light

I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds.

** That site shows the bare bones of a LOW speed strobe with a shorter
flash duration than a photo flash.

It is a high speed strobe in comparison to a standard camera strobe and,
as I stated earlier, that is what I need. You're talking semantics. I
need a strobe with a flash duration of, ideally, less than 20 microseconds.

I'm having a bit of trouble finding some parts and also interpreting what
some of the parts actually are from the hand-drawn schematic.

** Then keep away - it is a highy dangerous device and way out of your
league.

I was waiting for that. I'm not so ignorant that I'd cause any damage to
myself with it, despite what you might think.

An automotive timing light might serve your purpose better anyhow.
http://www.magnumforceracing.com/flaming_river_timing_light.asp

I've never seen or used one of those before. How bright are they and
what is the flash duration on those? I need it to flash when manually
triggered, and flash only once.

Scott.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts"

Phil Allison wrote:

Has anyone ever tried making something like this?

http://www.xtrsystems.com/strobe/strobe_light

I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds.

** That site shows the bare bones of a LOW speed strobe with a shorter
flash duration than a photo flash.


It is a high speed strobe in comparison to a standard camera strobe and,

** Camera do not use strobes - they have flash guns.

as I stated earlier, that is what I need. You're talking semantics.

** No - you do not know what a strobe is.

A "strobe" flashes continuously - usually at a rate of many times per
second.

I'm having a bit of trouble finding some parts and also interpreting what
some of the parts actually are from the hand-drawn schematic.

** Then keep away - it is a highly dangerous device and way out of your
league.


I was waiting for that. I'm not so ignorant that I'd cause any damage to
myself with it, despite what you might think.

** What I think is what matters most to me.

What you just posted tells me you are not competent with high voltage
circuitry.

An automotive timing light might serve your purpose better anyhow.
http://www.magnumforceracing.com/flaming_river_timing_light.asp


I've never seen or used one of those before. How bright are they and what
is the flash duration on those? I need it to flash when manually
triggered, and flash only once.

** Go to an automotive parts place and have a look at one.

It may need modifying to produce single flashes on cue.

But all the hard work is is done for you.



........... Phil

 

[Phillip Allison]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:06:58 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

** What I think is what matters most to me.

** That explains all those discussions you have with yourself.




.......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts" ...

I need a strobe with a flash duration of, ideally, less than 20
microseconds.


I need it to flash when manually triggered, and flash only once.

** I have the answer - a small camera flash can be modified to produce
vastly shorter flashes - just remove the main storage cap and replace it
with a much smaller value.

A 3.3 uF, 400 volt plastic film cap would be ideal and about the same size
as the original circa 150 uF electro.

See the WES catalogue for their "Solen " polyprops.

Eg, cat: SCR 3.3



........... Phil

 

[Scott Coutts]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Scott Coutts"

Phil Allison wrote:

It is a high speed strobe in comparison to a standard camera strobe and,

** Camera do not use strobes - they have flash guns.

Yes, but in the photography industry, 'flash guns' are often called
heads, strobes, blocks, monolights, etc.

as I stated earlier, that is what I need. You're talking semantics.

** No - you do not know what a strobe is.

I do in fact know what a strobe is. The term can be used differently
depending on your field. My comment regarding semantics was made on the
assumption that you were not being quite so pedantic as I had expected.

A "strobe" flashes continuously - usually at a rate of many times per
second.

I am aware that that is one of the uses of the term and, yes, perhaps I
should have chosen a different term to describe the light when
discussing it in an electronics group.

I was waiting for that. I'm not so ignorant that I'd cause any damage to
myself with it, despite what you might think.

** What I think is what matters most to me.

um... ok. I certainly dont doubt that.

What you just posted tells me you are not competent with high voltage
circuitry.

There is no question that I am not familiar with high voltage circuitry.
I stated that from the outset. That doesnt mean that I am sufficiently
ignorant or incompetent that I will hurt myself with it.

I've never seen or used one of those before. How bright are they and what
is the flash duration on those? I need it to flash when manually
triggered, and flash only once.

** Go to an automotive parts place and have a look at one.

I doubt they will specify the flash duration, but I'll have a look anyway.

It may need modifying to produce single flashes on cue.
But all the hard work is is done for you.

So they dont use high-voltage to trigger the xenon tube?

 

[Scott Coutts]

Phillip Allison wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:06:58 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

** What I think is what matters most to me.
** That explains all those discussions you have with yourself.

Anyone else have something useful to say?

Scott.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts"

Phil Allison wrote:

It is a high speed strobe in comparison to a standard camera strobe and,

** Camera do not use strobes - they have flash guns.


Yes, but in the photography industry, 'flash guns' are often called heads,
strobes, blocks, monolights, etc.

** Industry jargon should be left where you found it.

as I stated earlier, that is what I need. You're talking semantics.

** No - you do not know what a strobe is.

I do in fact know what a strobe is.

** Then why ask for a "strobe" when you wanted single fashes??

The term can be used differently depending on your field.

** We are not pro photographers here.

My comment regarding semantics was made on the assumption that you were
not being quite so pedantic as I had expected.

** Make less assumptions.

Then you will not look such a fool.

A "strobe" flashes continuously - usually at a rate of many times per
second.


I am aware that that is one of the uses of the term and, yes, perhaps I
should have chosen a different term to describe the light when discussing
it in an electronics group.

** Correct - industry jargon is not for export.

What you just posted tells me you are not competent with high voltage
circuitry.


There is no question that I am not familiar with high voltage circuitry. I
stated that from the outset. That doesnt mean that I am sufficiently
ignorant or incompetent that I will hurt myself with it.

** That is your very silly opinion.

It may need modifying to produce single flashes on cue.
But all the hard work is is done for you.


So they dont use high-voltage to trigger the xenon tube?

** Now you have graduated to being an outright smatarse.

Bye.......



........... Phil

 

[Mark Harriss]

What kind of camera are you using? film or a digital?.
Leds can run at fairly high speeds for the non white types
which have a phosphor which would likely be slower to
fade back to darkness, but you'd have to check on that.

It may be possible in your application to have an array
of high brightness LEDs (or a couple of 5 Watt units)
driven by a simple 555 oscillator circuit set up to have
a short duty cycle.

A quick Google shows this mob make a unit good for 1uSec
pulses:

http://www.stockeryale.com/i/leds/accessories/sd3000.htm

You'll have to excuse Phil as it's a full moon after all.


Regards
Mark

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts"

I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds.

** One of these will do the trick:

http://www.maxwell.com.au/products/sunpak/1600a.html

1/45,000 of a second is 22 microseconds !!!!!!!!!!


This is one of the **cheapest** flash units on sale in Australia.

I bought one similar 25 years ago.


Some big time pro-photographer you are - dickhead.





......... Phil

 

[Phillip Allison]

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:51:47 +0000, Scott Coutts wrote:

Phillip Allison wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:06:58 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

** What I think is what matters most to me.

** That explains all those discussions you have with yourself.


Anyone else have something useful to say?

Are you wishing or hoping?

 

[Scott Coutts]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Scott Coutts"


I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds.


** One of these will do the trick:

http://www.maxwell.com.au/products/sunpak/1600a.html

1/45,000 of a second is 22 microseconds !!!!!!!!!!


This is one of the **cheapest** flash units on sale in Australia.

I bought one similar 25 years ago.


Some big time pro-photographer you are - dickhead.





........ Phil

Here we go again. Yet another one.

 

[Scott Coutts]

Mark Harriss wrote:

What kind of camera are you using? film or a digital?.
Leds can run at fairly high speeds for the non white types
which have a phosphor which would likely be slower to
fade back to darkness, but you'd have to check on that.

It may be possible in your application to have an array
of high brightness LEDs (or a couple of 5 Watt units)
driven by a simple 555 oscillator circuit set up to have
a short duty cycle.

A quick Google shows this mob make a unit good for 1uSec
pulses:

http://www.stockeryale.com/i/leds/accessories/sd3000.htm

You'll have to excuse Phil as it's a full moon after all.

Yeah, I think every group has one. Now I know what he is, I'll just
leave him alone. Thanks for the info.

Cheers,

Scott.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts"

Yeah, I think every group has one.

** Harris is a complete fuckwit and a troll.

You are not in his league - fuckhead.





......... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts" <scott.coutts@med.monash.edu.au>

** Typical, know nothing, arrogant Uni student PUKE !!!

I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds.


** One of these will do the trick:

http://www.maxwell.com.au/products/sunpak/1600a.html

1/45,000 of a second is 22 microseconds !!!!!!!!!!


This is one of the **cheapest** flash units on sale in Australia.

I bought one similar 25 years ago.


Some big time pro-photographer you are - dickhead.


Here we go again. Yet another one.

** How many giant kicks in the arse would you like - Scott ??

Or maybe you are a gay boy, uni fuckwit ???



.......... Phil

 

[Scott Coutts]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Scott Coutts"

Phil Allison wrote:

Yes, but in the photography industry, 'flash guns' are often called heads,
strobes, blocks, monolights, etc.

** Industry jargon should be left where you found it.

From the OED:

"Strobe:
A. adj., an electric light that can be made to flash on and off rapidly
and automatically; also, an electronic flash for a camera"

as I stated earlier, that is what I need. You're talking semantics.

** No - you do not know what a strobe is.


I do in fact know what a strobe is.

** Then why ask for a "strobe" when you wanted single fashes??

See above, or to refresh your memory:

From the OED:

"Strobe:
A. adj., an electric light that can be made to flash on and off rapidly
and automatically; also (U.S.), an electronic flash for a camera"

The term can be used differently depending on your field.

** We are not pro photographers here.

That does not change the fact that the term 'strobe' has more than one
definition.

My comment regarding semantics was made on the assumption that you were
not being quite so pedantic as I had expected.

** Make less assumptions.
Then you will not look such a fool.

By having a quick look at your posting history, I think it is you that
is still appearing as the fool, after all this time.

I am aware that that is one of the uses of the term and, yes, perhaps I
should have chosen a different term to describe the light when discussing
it in an electronics group.

** Correct - industry jargon is not for export.

See the above definition once again.

There is no question that I am not familiar with high voltage circuitry. I
stated that from the outset. That doesnt mean that I am sufficiently
ignorant or incompetent that I will hurt myself with it.

** That is your very silly opinion.

I stated no opinion.

It may need modifying to produce single flashes on cue.
But all the hard work is is done for you.

So they dont use high-voltage to trigger the xenon tube?


** Now you have graduated to being an outright smatarse.

I asked you a serious question. First you tell me not to deal with
devices such as these, and then you tell me to modify a device which
also contains a xenon tube. Make a decision.

.... or dont. I've become tired of you now that I realise what you are. I
won't bother replying to anything more you write, so if you are petty
enough to require the last word, as most of your kind do, you can have it.

 

[Mark Harriss]

Phil Allison wrote:

"Scott Coutts"


Yeah, I think every group has one.



** Harris is a complete fuckwit and a troll.

You are not in his league - fuckhead.





........ Phil

Why gee... thanks Phil, coming from you that's
quite a compliment!.

Regards
Mark Harriss

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3keeg9Ftv5shU1@individual.net...

"Scott Coutts" <scott.coutts@med.monash.edu.au

** Typical, know nothing, arrogant Uni student PUKE !!!


I need a high-speed strobe for photographing moving objects with a
duration of around 15-30 microseconds.


** One of these will do the trick:

http://www.maxwell.com.au/products/sunpak/1600a.html

1/45,000 of a second is 22 microseconds !!!!!!!!!!


This is one of the **cheapest** flash units on sale in Australia.

I bought one similar 25 years ago.


Some big time pro-photographer you are - dickhead.


Here we go again. Yet another one.



** How many giant kicks in the arse would you like - Scott ??

Or maybe you are a gay boy, uni fuckwit ???



......... Phil

Phil, you still got this thing for gay boys? You seem to resurrect it
periodically.....

Aren't you a bit too old for this sort of thing?

A bit of a hangover from your "skool" days perhaps?

 

[Phil Allison]

"Scott Coutts"

** This fucking pimply faced uni puke, POS is just asking for it.

From the OED:

"Strobe:
A. adj., an electric light that can be made to flash on and off rapidly
and automatically; also (U.S.), an electronic flash for a camera"

** I see the qualification "U.S. " there.

Plus there is the *small matter* of context.

The term can be used differently depending on your field.

** We are not pro photographers here.


That does not change the fact that the term 'strobe' has more than one
definition.

** Depending on context and country.

This is NOT the USA and the context is not pro photography - FUCKHEAD !!

Make less stupid assumptions.

Then you will not look such a damn fool.

** Correct - industry jargon is not for export.


See the above definition once again.

** Go fuck yourself - you dumb, gay boy uni puke.

There is no question that I am not familiar with high voltage circuitry.
I stated that from the outset. That doesnt mean that I am sufficiently
ignorant or incompetent that I will hurt myself with it.

** That is your very silly opinion.

I stated no opinion.

** Liar.

Now, go fuck yourself - you dumb, gay boy uni puke.

It may need modifying to produce single flashes on cue.
But all the hard work is is done for you.

So they dont use high-voltage to trigger the xenon tube?


** Now you have graduated to being an outright smartarse.


I asked you a serious question.

** Go fuck yourself - you dumb, gay boy uni puke.

First you tell me not to deal with devices such as these,

** I said not to try building the dangerous one shown on that site -
FUCKHEAD !

and then you tell me to modify a device which also contains a xenon tube.

** Totally different kettle of fish - you gay boy uni FUCKHEAD !!!

That unit runs on batteries !!

You do not have to build it.

I've become tired of you now that I realise what you are.

** Lemme tell you what you are - Scott Coutts from Monash Uni ,
Melbourne

You are one, totally obnoxious, bullshit puking, vile, know nothing,
autistic uni wanker that needs a 40 foot flag pole shoved up your arse.






........... Phil