Gas shortage UK...

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 02:20:56 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:56:43 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:09:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> writes:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:01:01 -0500, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

Mine had a selection button: petrol or LPG, so also a normal fuel tank.
Lots of people who did drive many km used LPG.
Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?



UK petrol costs twice as much as US gasoline. Taxes often drive usage.

Given that, they deserve different names.


The UK petrol/diesel fleet gets almost twice the fleetwide
MPG as the corresponding US fleet, and they drive on average
only a third of the annual miles compared with those in the
US.

We have a giant country. 2600 miles from San Francisco to Manhattan.
Just California is over 800 miles long.

Shouldn\'t change the annual mileage of a lorry. We just get more trips in per day.

In your tiny old country, you can\'t drive very far.

Our country would be fine if we had a sensible population density.

We drive about 190 miles each way for a ski weekend. How far do you
drive for a ski weekend?

65 miles each way, if there\'s snow. The mountains here are pitifully small. Our highest is 7.5 times smaller than Everest. I wonder if anyone\'s skied down Everest? That would be fun! Yip, 4 hour descent!

The runs are probably not well groomed.

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 03:29:14 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 02:20:56 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:56:43 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:09:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> writes:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:01:01 -0500, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

Mine had a selection button: petrol or LPG, so also a normal fuel tank.
Lots of people who did drive many km used LPG.
Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?



UK petrol costs twice as much as US gasoline. Taxes often drive usage.

Given that, they deserve different names.


The UK petrol/diesel fleet gets almost twice the fleetwide
MPG as the corresponding US fleet, and they drive on average
only a third of the annual miles compared with those in the
US.

We have a giant country. 2600 miles from San Francisco to Manhattan.
Just California is over 800 miles long.

Shouldn\'t change the annual mileage of a lorry. We just get more trips in per day.

In your tiny old country, you can\'t drive very far.

Our country would be fine if we had a sensible population density.

We drive about 190 miles each way for a ski weekend. How far do you
drive for a ski weekend?

65 miles each way, if there\'s snow. The mountains here are pitifully small. Our highest is 7.5 times smaller than Everest. I wonder if anyone\'s skied down Everest? That would be fun! Yip, 4 hour descent!

The runs are probably not well groomed.

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Nevis is 4000 feet, but the only proper ski runs with lifts are a neighbouring mountain. 3400 feet in one go (up a few button lifts, then ski from the summit down to the car park).

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/activities/ski-board/the-mountain/piste-map-stats/
There\'s a lift missing on that map from the top of Alpha Button to the bottom of Summit Button.

https://goo.gl/maps/SQFjYso6e1FrBznZ8
Depending on your browser, you should get a red marker at the summit of Aonach Mor (yeah we got stupid Gaelic names) and a green marker at the car park.

I get funny looks when I ski shirtless. I\'m probably on the net somewhere, since I\'ve seen video cameras out. I know someone filmed me in a tartan thong which I did for a laugh at someone\'s request.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

ROTFPMSL! I\'ve never met a Texan.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:15:13 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 03:29:14 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 02:20:56 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:56:43 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:09:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> writes:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:01:01 -0500, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

Mine had a selection button: petrol or LPG, so also a normal fuel tank.
Lots of people who did drive many km used LPG.
Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?



UK petrol costs twice as much as US gasoline. Taxes often drive usage.

Given that, they deserve different names.


The UK petrol/diesel fleet gets almost twice the fleetwide
MPG as the corresponding US fleet, and they drive on average
only a third of the annual miles compared with those in the
US.

We have a giant country. 2600 miles from San Francisco to Manhattan.
Just California is over 800 miles long.

Shouldn\'t change the annual mileage of a lorry. We just get more trips in per day.

In your tiny old country, you can\'t drive very far.

Our country would be fine if we had a sensible population density.

We drive about 190 miles each way for a ski weekend. How far do you
drive for a ski weekend?

65 miles each way, if there\'s snow. The mountains here are pitifully small. Our highest is 7.5 times smaller than Everest. I wonder if anyone\'s skied down Everest? That would be fun! Yip, 4 hour descent!

The runs are probably not well groomed.

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Nevis is 4000 feet, but the only proper ski runs with lifts are a neighbouring mountain. 3400 feet in one go (up a few button lifts, then ski from the summit down to the car park).

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/activities/ski-board/the-mountain/piste-map-stats/
There\'s a lift missing on that map from the top of Alpha Button to the bottom of Summit Button.

https://goo.gl/maps/SQFjYso6e1FrBznZ8
Depending on your browser, you should get a red marker at the summit of Aonach Mor (yeah we got stupid Gaelic names) and a green marker at the car park.

I get funny looks when I ski shirtless. I\'m probably on the net somewhere, since I\'ve seen video cameras out. I know someone filmed me in a tartan thong which I did for a laugh at someone\'s request.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

ROTFPMSL! I\'ve never met a Texan.

They buy expensive skis and outfits and fall off chair lifts.

Here\'s Sugar Bowl. I get a season pass every year.

https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams

It\'s more of a local place than the monsters like Squaw and Northstar.
One of the runs is called Pacific Crest Trail because it is. One peak
is Mt Disney because Walt was one of the original investors. So it\'s a
Mickey Mouse ski area.

The prevailing wind off the ocean rises and peaks just about there. In
a good year they get 80 feet of snow. One year we skiied on the 4th of
July.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgu1x1ajlk3rpit/July_4_Bikini.jpg?raw=1

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 12:46:43 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
<t84omhd1pn52teq2iiu9685a3vm3alhs13@4ax.com>:

>We drive miles, and we call it LNG.

Yea, and use feet and one of your mars landers crashed when you used the wrong units,,,
And not to forget you use a comma where EU uses a dot like your 12,000 is just 12 here...
Why not act normal?
;-)
(and not only in units) so small that US is on my globe...Look at the size of China, Russia, Africa, etc

Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?


Next time an empire wants to rule Europe, we\'ll let them have it.

We? LOL you have just been conquered by mass migration from the south..
Children sex changes, everybody queer, no more math at schools, crime increasing,

OK am disappointed that the Republicans did not score higher but it is all Trunps fault
they should have pushed DeSantis.

US just one big weapon factory selling death all over the world.
At Any Cost
Go free yourself mate

 

[Max Demian]

On 12/11/2022 15:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:32:35 -0000, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:
On 11/12/2022 7:57 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

A diesel engine might cost more, but it lasts twice as long.

Your taxes are much higher and tend to level cost.

Odd, I thought the UK government taxed diesel more due to pollution
concerns.

When unleaded petrol came in they subsidised it so it was the same price
as leaded to encourage people to switch (if their vehicles allowed). So
leaded and diesel were both taxed more than unleaded.

This is before diesel became such a Bad Think; when the govt. wanted us
all to switch as diesel is more economical.

--
Max Demian

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 05:41:59 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 05:21:35 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:55:59 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:36:26 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:15:13 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 03:29:14 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Nevis is 4000 feet, but the only proper ski runs with lifts are a neighbouring mountain. 3400 feet in one go (up a few button lifts, then ski from the summit down to the car park).

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/activities/ski-board/the-mountain/piste-map-stats/
There\'s a lift missing on that map from the top of Alpha Button to the bottom of Summit Button.

https://goo.gl/maps/SQFjYso6e1FrBznZ8
Depending on your browser, you should get a red marker at the summit of Aonach Mor (yeah we got stupid Gaelic names) and a green marker at the car park.

I get funny looks when I ski shirtless. I\'m probably on the net somewhere, since I\'ve seen video cameras out. I know someone filmed me in a tartan thong which I did for a laugh at someone\'s request.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

ROTFPMSL! I\'ve never met a Texan.

They buy expensive skis and outfits and fall off chair lifts.

Sounds like they\'re fun to watch.

Except the one that whacked me in the calf with a snowboard.

Is it true all snowboarders go shirtless? I detest people wrapping up warm in the snow, it\'s pathetic.

Here\'s Sugar Bowl. I get a season pass every year.

https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams

Jesus what\'s with the regulations?
https://www.sugarbowl.com/uphill

Uphill? Do people ski uphill?

People too mean to pay for the skilift?

It\'s more of a local place than the monsters like Squaw and Northstar.
One of the runs is called Pacific Crest Trail because it is. One peak
is Mt Disney because Walt was one of the original investors. So it\'s a
Mickey Mouse ski area.

The prevailing wind off the ocean rises and peaks just about there. In
a good year they get 80 feet of snow. One year we skiied on the 4th of
July.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgu1x1ajlk3rpit/July_4_Bikini.jpg?raw=1

Pah, I prefer it when they\'re cold.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/77/8c/47778c5bb078f4ac26ff9e0428d69d8c.jpg

It\'s fun to soak in a nice hot tub and let your hair freeze.

Sissy.

Girls make the experience even better.

If I go on some passive vacation, I\'ll think about electronics all the
time. I can ski from 9AM to 4PM with just a couple of breaks, up in
the gorgeous mountains, and basically not think much at all. Then when
I\'m done I\'m too tired to think.

Skiing has actually taught me a lot. About trusting your body and your
instincts, about hesitation and commitment, about dynamics.

Indeed. Best to do everything subconsciously. Trying to calculate things takes too long and you come across things you didn\'t expect. Same goes for driving.

Do you calculate steering and braking forces as you drive?

In engineeering new ideas are usually qualitative and subconscious.
May as well get them while you\'re asleep. Ideas only need analysis
(classic math or simulation) once they exist. Good quantity instincts
will usually disqualify really bad ideas before you wake up.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:36:26 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:15:13 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 03:29:14 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 02:20:56 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:56:43 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:09:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> writes:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:01:01 -0500, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

Mine had a selection button: petrol or LPG, so also a normal fuel tank.
Lots of people who did drive many km used LPG.
Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?



UK petrol costs twice as much as US gasoline. Taxes often drive usage.

Given that, they deserve different names.


The UK petrol/diesel fleet gets almost twice the fleetwide
MPG as the corresponding US fleet, and they drive on average
only a third of the annual miles compared with those in the
US.

We have a giant country. 2600 miles from San Francisco to Manhattan.
Just California is over 800 miles long.

Shouldn\'t change the annual mileage of a lorry. We just get more trips in per day.

In your tiny old country, you can\'t drive very far.

Our country would be fine if we had a sensible population density.

We drive about 190 miles each way for a ski weekend. How far do you
drive for a ski weekend?

65 miles each way, if there\'s snow. The mountains here are pitifully small. Our highest is 7.5 times smaller than Everest. I wonder if anyone\'s skied down Everest? That would be fun! Yip, 4 hour descent!

The runs are probably not well groomed.

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Nevis is 4000 feet, but the only proper ski runs with lifts are a neighbouring mountain. 3400 feet in one go (up a few button lifts, then ski from the summit down to the car park).

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/activities/ski-board/the-mountain/piste-map-stats/
There\'s a lift missing on that map from the top of Alpha Button to the bottom of Summit Button.

https://goo.gl/maps/SQFjYso6e1FrBznZ8
Depending on your browser, you should get a red marker at the summit of Aonach Mor (yeah we got stupid Gaelic names) and a green marker at the car park.

I get funny looks when I ski shirtless. I\'m probably on the net somewhere, since I\'ve seen video cameras out. I know someone filmed me in a tartan thong which I did for a laugh at someone\'s request.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

ROTFPMSL! I\'ve never met a Texan.

They buy expensive skis and outfits and fall off chair lifts.

Sounds like they\'re fun to watch.

Here\'s Sugar Bowl. I get a season pass every year.

https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams

Jesus what\'s with the regulations?
https://www.sugarbowl.com/uphill

It\'s more of a local place than the monsters like Squaw and Northstar.
One of the runs is called Pacific Crest Trail because it is. One peak
is Mt Disney because Walt was one of the original investors. So it\'s a
Mickey Mouse ski area.

The prevailing wind off the ocean rises and peaks just about there. In
a good year they get 80 feet of snow. One year we skiied on the 4th of
July.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgu1x1ajlk3rpit/July_4_Bikini.jpg?raw=1

Pah, I prefer it when they\'re cold.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/77/8c/47778c5bb078f4ac26ff9e0428d69d8c.jpg

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:38:09 -0000, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 12:46:43 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
t84omhd1pn52teq2iiu9685a3vm3alhs13@4ax.com>:

We drive miles, and we call it LNG.

Yea, and use feet and one of your mars landers crashed when you used the wrong units,,,
And not to forget you use a comma where EU uses a dot like your 12,000 is just 12 here...
Why not act normal?

The EU is wrong. A dot is a decimal point. For example 12.345 is about twelve and a third. 12,345 is over twelve thousand. How do you decide which one 12.345 is?

;-)
(and not only in units) so small that US is on my globe...Look at the size of China, Russia, Africa, etc

Russia really needs to take over the pissy little US. It\'s not far across to Alaska.

Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?

Next time an empire wants to rule Europe, we\'ll let them have it.

We? LOL you have just been conquered by mass migration from the south..
Children sex changes, everybody queer, no more math at schools, crime increasing,

Should have built that wall.

OK am disappointed that the Republicans did not score higher but it is all Trunps fault
they should have pushed DeSantis.

US just one big weapon factory selling death all over the world.
At Any Cost
Go free yourself mate

Indeed, sell arms to a country then declare war on it.... oh shit, we\'re getting hit by our own guns.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:55:59 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:36:26 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:15:13 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 03:29:14 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 02:20:56 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:56:43 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:09:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> writes:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:01:01 -0500, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

Mine had a selection button: petrol or LPG, so also a normal fuel tank.
Lots of people who did drive many km used LPG.
Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?



UK petrol costs twice as much as US gasoline. Taxes often drive usage.

Given that, they deserve different names.


The UK petrol/diesel fleet gets almost twice the fleetwide
MPG as the corresponding US fleet, and they drive on average
only a third of the annual miles compared with those in the
US.

We have a giant country. 2600 miles from San Francisco to Manhattan.
Just California is over 800 miles long.

Shouldn\'t change the annual mileage of a lorry. We just get more trips in per day.

In your tiny old country, you can\'t drive very far.

Our country would be fine if we had a sensible population density.

We drive about 190 miles each way for a ski weekend. How far do you
drive for a ski weekend?

65 miles each way, if there\'s snow. The mountains here are pitifully small. Our highest is 7.5 times smaller than Everest. I wonder if anyone\'s skied down Everest? That would be fun! Yip, 4 hour descent!

The runs are probably not well groomed.

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Nevis is 4000 feet, but the only proper ski runs with lifts are a neighbouring mountain. 3400 feet in one go (up a few button lifts, then ski from the summit down to the car park).

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/activities/ski-board/the-mountain/piste-map-stats/
There\'s a lift missing on that map from the top of Alpha Button to the bottom of Summit Button.

https://goo.gl/maps/SQFjYso6e1FrBznZ8
Depending on your browser, you should get a red marker at the summit of Aonach Mor (yeah we got stupid Gaelic names) and a green marker at the car park.

I get funny looks when I ski shirtless. I\'m probably on the net somewhere, since I\'ve seen video cameras out. I know someone filmed me in a tartan thong which I did for a laugh at someone\'s request.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

ROTFPMSL! I\'ve never met a Texan.

They buy expensive skis and outfits and fall off chair lifts.

Sounds like they\'re fun to watch.

Except the one that whacked me in the calf with a snowboard.

Here\'s Sugar Bowl. I get a season pass every year.

https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams

Jesus what\'s with the regulations?
https://www.sugarbowl.com/uphill

Uphill? Do people ski uphill?

It\'s more of a local place than the monsters like Squaw and Northstar.
One of the runs is called Pacific Crest Trail because it is. One peak
is Mt Disney because Walt was one of the original investors. So it\'s a
Mickey Mouse ski area.

The prevailing wind off the ocean rises and peaks just about there. In
a good year they get 80 feet of snow. One year we skiied on the 4th of
July.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgu1x1ajlk3rpit/July_4_Bikini.jpg?raw=1

Pah, I prefer it when they\'re cold.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/77/8c/47778c5bb078f4ac26ff9e0428d69d8c.jpg

It\'s fun to soak in a nice hot tub and let your hair freeze.

If I go on some passive vacation, I\'ll think about electronics all the
time. I can ski from 9AM to 4PM with just a couple of breaks, up in
the gorgeous mountains, and basically not think much at all. Then when
I\'m done I\'m too tired to think.

Skiing has actually taught me a lot. About trusting your body and your
instincts, about hesitation and commitment, about dynamics.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:38:09 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 12:46:43 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
t84omhd1pn52teq2iiu9685a3vm3alhs13@4ax.com>:

We drive miles, and we call it LNG.

Yea, and use feet and one of your mars landers crashed when you used the wrong units,,,

The Dutch and English Mars landers were much better.

 

[Bob F]

On 11/9/2022 9:21 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:55:59 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:36:26 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:15:13 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 03:29:14 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 02:20:56 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:56:43 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:09:14 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> writes:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 14:01:01 -0500, Frank <Frank@frank..net> wrote:

Mine had a selection button: petrol or LPG, so also a normal fuel tank.
Lots of people who did drive many km used LPG.
Nothing rare about it, most fuel station have it here.
You could also add LPG to an existing petrol car by just buying some conversion set.
When I did away with it I think I had about 250,000 km on the counter.

USA? Never heard about it, did not its states fall apart in 2022 after the midterms?



UK petrol costs twice as much as US gasoline. Taxes often drive usage.

Given that, they deserve different names.


The UK petrol/diesel fleet gets almost twice the fleetwide
MPG as the corresponding US fleet, and they drive on average
only a third of the annual miles compared with those in the
US.

We have a giant country. 2600 miles from San Francisco to Manhattan.
Just California is over 800 miles long.

Shouldn\'t change the annual mileage of a lorry. We just get more trips in per day.

In your tiny old country, you can\'t drive very far.

Our country would be fine if we had a sensible population density.

We drive about 190 miles each way for a ski weekend. How far do you
drive for a ski weekend?

65 miles each way, if there\'s snow. The mountains here are pitifully small. Our highest is 7.5 times smaller than Everest. I wonder if anyone\'s skied down Everest? That would be fun! Yip, 4 hour descent!

The runs are probably not well groomed.

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Nevis is 4000 feet, but the only proper ski runs with lifts are a neighbouring mountain. 3400 feet in one go (up a few button lifts, then ski from the summit down to the car park).

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/activities/ski-board/the-mountain/piste-map-stats/
There\'s a lift missing on that map from the top of Alpha Button to the bottom of Summit Button.

https://goo.gl/maps/SQFjYso6e1FrBznZ8
Depending on your browser, you should get a red marker at the summit of Aonach Mor (yeah we got stupid Gaelic names) and a green marker at the car park.

I get funny looks when I ski shirtless. I\'m probably on the net somewhere, since I\'ve seen video cameras out. I know someone filmed me in a tartan thong which I did for a laugh at someone\'s request.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

ROTFPMSL! I\'ve never met a Texan.

They buy expensive skis and outfits and fall off chair lifts.

Sounds like they\'re fun to watch.

Except the one that whacked me in the calf with a snowboard.


Here\'s Sugar Bowl. I get a season pass every year.

https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams

Jesus what\'s with the regulations?
https://www.sugarbowl.com/uphill


Uphill? Do people ski uphill?


It\'s more of a local place than the monsters like Squaw and Northstar.
One of the runs is called Pacific Crest Trail because it is. One peak
is Mt Disney because Walt was one of the original investors. So it\'s a
Mickey Mouse ski area.

The prevailing wind off the ocean rises and peaks just about there. In
a good year they get 80 feet of snow. One year we skiied on the 4th of
July.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgu1x1ajlk3rpit/July_4_Bikini.jpg?raw=1

Pah, I prefer it when they\'re cold.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/77/8c/47778c5bb078f4ac26ff9e0428d69d8c.jpg

It\'s fun to soak in a nice hot tub and let your hair freeze.

If I go on some passive vacation, I\'ll think about electronics all the
time. I can ski from 9AM to 4PM with just a couple of breaks, up in
the gorgeous mountains, and basically not think much at all. Then when
I\'m done I\'m too tired to think.

Skiing has actually taught me a lot. About trusting your body and your
instincts, about hesitation and commitment, about dynamics.

And being one with the mountain.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 05:21:35 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:55:59 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:36:26 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:15:13 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 03:29:14 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

You can ski about 4000 vertical feet non-stop at Aspen Highlands. I
think I actually managed to do that once.

Nevis is 4000 feet, but the only proper ski runs with lifts are a neighbouring mountain. 3400 feet in one go (up a few button lifts, then ski from the summit down to the car park).

https://www.nevisrange.co.uk/activities/ski-board/the-mountain/piste-map-stats/
There\'s a lift missing on that map from the top of Alpha Button to the bottom of Summit Button.

https://goo.gl/maps/SQFjYso6e1FrBznZ8
Depending on your browser, you should get a red marker at the summit of Aonach Mor (yeah we got stupid Gaelic names) and a green marker at the car park.

I get funny looks when I ski shirtless. I\'m probably on the net somewhere, since I\'ve seen video cameras out. I know someone filmed me in a tartan thong which I did for a laugh at someone\'s request.

Sugar Bowl is about 1500 vf, more suited to my current ambitions.

The Ski Area Formerly Known As Squaw Valley is 2850 vf, if you can
manage to not be collided with by some yahoo from Texas.

ROTFPMSL! I\'ve never met a Texan.

They buy expensive skis and outfits and fall off chair lifts.

Sounds like they\'re fun to watch.

Except the one that whacked me in the calf with a snowboard.

Is it true all snowboarders go shirtless? I detest people wrapping up warm in the snow, it\'s pathetic.

Here\'s Sugar Bowl. I get a season pass every year.

https://www.sugarbowl.com/webcams

Jesus what\'s with the regulations?
https://www.sugarbowl.com/uphill

Uphill? Do people ski uphill?

People too mean to pay for the skilift?

It\'s more of a local place than the monsters like Squaw and Northstar.
One of the runs is called Pacific Crest Trail because it is. One peak
is Mt Disney because Walt was one of the original investors. So it\'s a
Mickey Mouse ski area.

The prevailing wind off the ocean rises and peaks just about there. In
a good year they get 80 feet of snow. One year we skiied on the 4th of
July.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgu1x1ajlk3rpit/July_4_Bikini.jpg?raw=1

Pah, I prefer it when they\'re cold.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/77/8c/47778c5bb078f4ac26ff9e0428d69d8c.jpg

It\'s fun to soak in a nice hot tub and let your hair freeze.

Sissy.

If I go on some passive vacation, I\'ll think about electronics all the
time. I can ski from 9AM to 4PM with just a couple of breaks, up in
the gorgeous mountains, and basically not think much at all. Then when
I\'m done I\'m too tired to think.

Skiing has actually taught me a lot. About trusting your body and your
instincts, about hesitation and commitment, about dynamics.

Indeed. Best to do everything subconsciously. Trying to calculate things takes too long and you come across things you didn\'t expect. Same goes for driving.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 05:24:30 -0000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/9/2022 9:21 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:55:59 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:36:26 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

It\'s more of a local place than the monsters like Squaw and Northstar.
One of the runs is called Pacific Crest Trail because it is. One peak
is Mt Disney because Walt was one of the original investors. So it\'s a
Mickey Mouse ski area.

The prevailing wind off the ocean rises and peaks just about there. In
a good year they get 80 feet of snow. One year we skiied on the 4th of
July.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgu1x1ajlk3rpit/July_4_Bikini.jpg?raw=1

Pah, I prefer it when they\'re cold.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/47/77/8c/47778c5bb078f4ac26ff9e0428d69d8c.jpg

It\'s fun to soak in a nice hot tub and let your hair freeze.

If I go on some passive vacation, I\'ll think about electronics all the
time. I can ski from 9AM to 4PM with just a couple of breaks, up in
the gorgeous mountains, and basically not think much at all. Then when
I\'m done I\'m too tired to think.

Skiing has actually taught me a lot. About trusting your body and your
instincts, about hesitation and commitment, about dynamics.

And being one with the mountain.

Is that legal?

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:23:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<mj2pmhlqah5brhu22r79jpr285r8da7hfd@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:38:09 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 12:46:43 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
t84omhd1pn52teq2iiu9685a3vm3alhs13@4ax.com>:

We drive miles, and we call it LNG.

Yea, and use feet and one of your mars landers crashed when you used the wrong units,,,

The Dutch and English Mars landers were much better.

Well, the Dutch and English once ruled the world like the US now think it does.
History has the habit of repeating itself.
There is a lesson to learn from that.

From a Darwinian POV I see it as one ant heap against the other,
may the best one win.

The next species ? What will it look like?
Flies and mosquitos seem to be doing quite well here too.

One could predict that by the time US lands people on mars
they will have to pay landing rights to China and eat in nice Chinese restaurants.
Used to live next to one, we went to eat there many many times.\'
Not sure they will except dollars on mars.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 08:01:46 -0000, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:23:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
mj2pmhlqah5brhu22r79jpr285r8da7hfd@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 04:38:09 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 12:46:43 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
t84omhd1pn52teq2iiu9685a3vm3alhs13@4ax.com>:

We drive miles, and we call it LNG.

Yea, and use feet and one of your mars landers crashed when you used the wrong units,,,

The Dutch and English Mars landers were much better.

Well, the Dutch and English once ruled the world like the US now think it does.
History has the habit of repeating itself.
There is a lesson to learn from that.

From a Darwinian POV I see it as one ant heap against the other,
may the best one win.

The next species ? What will it look like?
Flies and mosquitos seem to be doing quite well here too.

Not here they don\'t. They still fall for UV light and 2000 volts.

And rodents fall for peanut butter and 8000 volts.

> One could predict ***that*** by the time US lands people on mars

Remove the word in *s and see how it reads.

they will have to pay landing rights to China and eat in nice Chinese restaurants.
Used to live next to one, we went to eat there many many times.\'

You ate there and actually chose to go back?

 

[Peeler]

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 19:29:14 -0800, John Larkin, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> The runs are probably not well groomed.

With your thick head way up the unwashed troll\'s arse again, you abnormal
troll-feeding senile pest?

 

[Peeler]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 12:47:34 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
The Natural Philosopher about senile Rodent:
\"Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole.\"
Message-ID: <pu07vj$s5$2@dont-email.me>

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:03:04 +0000, Max Dumb, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

Odd, I thought the UK government taxed diesel more due to pollution
concerns.

When unleaded petrol came in they subsidised it so it was the same price
as leaded to encourage people to switch (if their vehicles allowed). So
leaded and diesel were both taxed more than unleaded.

This is before diesel became such a Bad Think; when the govt. wanted us
all to switch as diesel is more economical.

HAHAHAHAAA!!! That retarded Scottish wanker (with a self-declared \"IQ of
148) sets out silly bait after silly bait ...and you demented senile
ASSHOLES happily come hopping along to feed him instantly, EVERY time! LMAO

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 09/11/2022 20:46, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 18:19:13 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 09 Nov 2022 06:50:05 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
66fnmhdoa1lhoula6j8hj8o76id5cfufpk@4ax.com>:

On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 08:13:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 08/11/2022 16:56, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 16:40:57 +0000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk
wrote:

On 08/11/2022 01:41, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 23:37:35 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Nov 2022 19:55:17 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 17:59:28 +0000, Vir Campestris
vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 06/11/2022 22:28, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Gasoline is not Methane. They are two different things, and
gasoline both becoming scarce, becoming expensive and in
small lawn equipment, very polluting.


Scott, the thread title points to this being in the UK.

In the UK gas usually means methane. The stuff we put in our cars is
petrol - petroleum spirit.

Andy

The car stuff is officially \"gasoline\" in the USA.

But calling it gas means it gets confused with real gas.

I don\'t think many people get confused.

It could be very confusing if there if you also include the posibility
of a gas (LPG) powered car.

That would be an \"LNG powered car\" or a \"hydrogen powered car.\" Both
rare.

No, it would be an LPG powered car. Liquefied Petroleum Gas.

Not confusing at all.

Seems to have confused you.

Don\'t be an obnoxious jerk. Nobody likes jerks.

In the USA we have clearly labeled cars and trucks: LNG and CNG. Both
natural gas, mostly methane. The cars can ride in commute lanes with
just the driver onboard.

LPG usually means propane. Some forklifts run on propane, as do rural
homes without piped gas (ie, NG) service. It\'s expensive.

I recall rural cabins with underground butane tanks.

Look Mr Larkin
I had a LPG car for many many years
Reason: LPG was, when I bought it, a lot cheaper than gas or diesel.
That changed over the years as government here started taxing it more and more.
Anyways it is stored in liquid form in a pressurized tank in the car.
Liquified Petrolium Gas
Mine had a selection button: petrol or LPG, so also a normal fuel tank.
Lots of people who did drive many km used LPG.

We drive miles, and we call it LNG.

LNG is not LPG.

LPG is derived from the lighter fractions of crude oil - methane,
butane, pentane etc.

LNG is derived from unrefined natural gas. Overwhelmingly methane IIRC

The fact that you think they are the same is merely a testament to
ignorance.



--
\"The great thing about Glasgow is that if there\'s a nuclear attack it\'ll
look exactly the same afterwards.\"

Billy Connolly

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 09/11/2022 23:56, John Larkin wrote:

We drive about 190 miles each way for a ski weekend. How far do you
drive for a ski weekend?

I generally drive at leats 1000 miles to avoid a ski weekend.
Fortunately, they happen in other countries *shudder*

--
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.

Al Capone