Electric Vehicles Are Great for Long Trips

[bitrex]

On 7/12/19 1:42 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:4PUVE.35249$Kf5.27393@fx42.iad:

Tesla also has a demographics problem wrt to their sales the
overwhelming majority of Model 3s sold domestically are sold to a
similar demographic, middle-aged white males in the IT/technology
sector in California.


Fake Stat!

You are like Trump.

Motorcycles have better market appeal to female buyers than Tesla
products do.

<https://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/one-and-five-motorcyclist-is-female/>

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 12:48:17 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:52:28 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:1akaietbcjq8n31boppk5g92bqdd5nqg5k@4ax.com:

And sometimes you just want to get there.



I saw your post about being pressed back in the seat, and how much
you liked it.

Sometimes driving is fun, like on a twisty hilly road. Straight-line
on a freeway is not much fun. I just want to get that sort of driving
over. Mo doesn't mind driving the flats, so she lets me do the fun
parts.

That''s when autopilot is so nice. Let the car handle the detail driving and you focus on watching for anomalies.

You are a hypocrite. Most EVs have faster acceleration.

Not for the hours they sit in a charging station.

At least most Tesla owners can charge at home and avoid the traffic, smells and mess of a gas station. I often charge at a Sheetz, but at least I am some dozens of yards from the stinky gas pumps.

You will likely be free for some years to continue to drive your carbon pump. But sooner or later either the gas tax will make them prohibitive to drive or the cars themselves will be taxed off the roads.

That won't matter anyway. In a few more years cars will be driving themselves and that technology will only be on electric vehicles since they won't be upgrading any ICE products... if they are making them at all.

--

Rick C.

-+-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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[John Larkin]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:52:28 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:1akaietbcjq8n31boppk5g92bqdd5nqg5k@4ax.com:

And sometimes you just want to get there.



I saw your post about being pressed back in the seat, and how much
you liked it.

Sometimes driving is fun, like on a twisty hilly road. Straight-line
on a freeway is not much fun. I just want to get that sort of driving
over. Mo doesn't mind driving the flats, so she lets me do the fun
parts.

You are a hypocrite. Most EVs have faster acceleration.

Not for the hours they sit in a charging station.


> You are just biased against certain Usenet newsgroup posters.

Their ideas, often. I try to not change my objective concepts based on
their personalities. That would be stupid, being wrong and yielding
them power that they certainly don't deserve.

Some of the biggest disasters in human history resulted from people
allowing the emotional force of others to bend their ability to
reason. It's really hard to think clearly inside a brain sloshing with
emotion and fear.

Plenty of other reasons your horse blinders are adjusted to a thin
slit as well.

Insults and swearing are easy. Electronic design is more difficult.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Rick C]

Wow! I just reached my destination and the car says I traveled the last 30 miles with only 260 Wh/mi consumption! I've never seen it that low. That was with the AC and headlights on. The car consumption was 280 Wh/mi since the charge 70 miles back.

I've seen it at 300 Wh/mi before and typically it's 330 or more on highways.. Right now with 74% charge it says I can travel 240 miles. Of course that wouldn't apply at 70 mph. Still that works out to be 325 miles per full charge. That's surprising since this car is the Queen Mary of the Tesla line.

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Rick C.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3a4ce80d-d6b3-45fe-93b7-798a1ee23813@googlegroups.com:

snip

Back to the future and Buckaroo Bansai. Not sure about the space
herpes. While I was looking it up turns out herpes is detected in
astronauts while in space more so than while on earth. They
speculate it is because of the stress of space flight. Go figure.

Oh you'd like this one...

<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087451/>

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 9:56:03 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:40eb8eec-c770-4838-af66-dce36b28353c@googlegroups.com:

Wow! I just reached my destination and the car says I traveled
the last 30 miles with only 260 Wh/mi consumption! I've never
seen it that low. That was with the AC and headlights on. The
car consumption was 280 Wh/mi since the charge 70 miles back.

I've seen it at 300 Wh/mi before and typically it's 330 or more on
highways. Right now with 74% charge it says I can travel 240
miles. Of course that wouldn't apply at 70 mph. Still that works
out to be 325 miles per full charge. That's surprising since
this car is the Queen Mary of the Tesla line.


Now, all you need is a BTTF 'reactor' on the trunk (in the trunk)
that produces enough to 'locomote' the car as well as 'refill' the
'fuel storage'. Feed it a beer can and a banana peel, and it gets
you across the country.

If you do it just right you can drive into a mountainside and into
the 8th dimension, or go 88 MPH and backward or forward in time.

Just don't let a space herpes loose in your car.

(how many movies references and what are they)?

Back to the future and Buckaroo Bansai. Not sure about the space herpes. While I was looking it up turns out herpes is detected in astronauts while in space more so than while on earth. They speculate it is because of the stress of space flight. Go figure.

--

Rick C.

-++- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-++- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:40eb8eec-c770-4838-af66-dce36b28353c@googlegroups.com:

Wow! I just reached my destination and the car says I traveled
the last 30 miles with only 260 Wh/mi consumption! I've never
seen it that low. That was with the AC and headlights on. The
car consumption was 280 Wh/mi since the charge 70 miles back.

I've seen it at 300 Wh/mi before and typically it's 330 or more on
highways. Right now with 74% charge it says I can travel 240
miles. Of course that wouldn't apply at 70 mph. Still that works
out to be 325 miles per full charge. That's surprising since
this car is the Queen Mary of the Tesla line.

Now, all you need is a BTTF 'reactor' on the trunk (in the trunk)
that produces enough to 'locomote' the car as well as 'refill' the
'fuel storage'. Feed it a beer can and a banana peel, and it gets
you across the country.

If you do it just right you can drive into a mountainside and into
the 8th dimension, or go 88 MPH and backward or forward in time.

Just don't let a space herpes loose in your car.

(how many movies references and what are they)?

 

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:qgcq6e$1hfa$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3a4ce80d-d6b3-45fe-93b7-798a1ee23813@googlegroups.com:

snip

Back to the future and Buckaroo Bansai. Not sure about the space
herpes. While I was looking it up turns out herpes is detected in
astronauts while in space more so than while on earth. They
speculate it is because of the stress of space flight. Go figure.


Oh you'd like this one...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087451/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-me2inj1nNw

Bwuahahahah!

 

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:qgcqa1$1hfa$2
@gioia.aioe.org:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:qgcq6e$1hfa
$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3a4ce80d-d6b3-45fe-93b7-798a1ee23813@googlegroups.com:

snip

Back to the future and Buckaroo Bansai. Not sure about the space
herpes. While I was looking it up turns out herpes is detected
in
astronauts while in space more so than while on earth. They
speculate it is because of the stress of space flight. Go
figure.


Oh you'd like this one...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087451/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-me2inj1nNw

Bwuahahahah!

Three big brutes...

Robert Urich
John Matuszak
Ron Perlman

I never knew Robert Urich was that huge.

Also Anjelica Huston back when she looked hotter.

It is actually a pretty funny movie. Drive in kind of stuff.
Turned into a cult classic thing.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/12/19 1:15 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 12:48:17 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:52:28 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:1akaietbcjq8n31boppk5g92bqdd5nqg5k@4ax.com:

And sometimes you just want to get there.



I saw your post about being pressed back in the seat, and how much
you liked it.

Sometimes driving is fun, like on a twisty hilly road. Straight-line
on a freeway is not much fun. I just want to get that sort of driving
over. Mo doesn't mind driving the flats, so she lets me do the fun
parts.

That''s when autopilot is so nice. Let the car handle the detail driving and you focus on watching for anomalies.


You are a hypocrite. Most EVs have faster acceleration.

Not for the hours they sit in a charging station.

At least most Tesla owners can charge at home and avoid the traffic, smells and mess of a gas station. I often charge at a Sheetz, but at least I am some dozens of yards from the stinky gas pumps.

You will likely be free for some years to continue to drive your carbon pump. But sooner or later either the gas tax will make them prohibitive to drive or the cars themselves will be taxed off the roads.

That won't matter anyway. In a few more years cars will be driving themselves and that technology will only be on electric vehicles since they won't be upgrading any ICE products... if they are making them at all.

Try the open-source autopilot upgrade for ICE cars IF YOU DARE

<https://github.com/commaai/openpilot>

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 12:48:48 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 7/12/19 1:15 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 12:48:17 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:52:28 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:1akaietbcjq8n31boppk5g92bqdd5nqg5k@4ax.com:

And sometimes you just want to get there.



I saw your post about being pressed back in the seat, and how much
you liked it.

Sometimes driving is fun, like on a twisty hilly road. Straight-line
on a freeway is not much fun. I just want to get that sort of driving
over. Mo doesn't mind driving the flats, so she lets me do the fun
parts.

That''s when autopilot is so nice. Let the car handle the detail driving and you focus on watching for anomalies.


You are a hypocrite. Most EVs have faster acceleration.

Not for the hours they sit in a charging station.

At least most Tesla owners can charge at home and avoid the traffic, smells and mess of a gas station. I often charge at a Sheetz, but at least I am some dozens of yards from the stinky gas pumps.

You will likely be free for some years to continue to drive your carbon pump. But sooner or later either the gas tax will make them prohibitive to drive or the cars themselves will be taxed off the roads.

That won't matter anyway. In a few more years cars will be driving themselves and that technology will only be on electric vehicles since they won't be upgrading any ICE products... if they are making them at all.


Try the open-source autopilot upgrade for ICE cars IF YOU DARE

https://github.com/commaai/openpilot

https://xkcd.com/1720/

--

Rick C.

-+++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 11:56:03 AM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

Many here can't seem to understand that EVs don't need to be impediments to driving cross country. Very few people won't want to stop periodically to eat and use a bathroom. Here is a perfect example of what a trip in a Tesla is like.

https://electrek.co/2019/07/09/tesla-model-3-is-the-best-road-trip-car-10-hours-of-driving-on-autopilot-and-0-hours-waiting-for-charging/

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Just wait until you are TENTH in line for the supercharger...

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:08:14 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy <tomseim2g@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 11:56:03 AM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
Many here can't seem to understand that EVs don't need to be impediments to driving cross country. Very few people won't want to stop periodically to eat and use a bathroom. Here is a perfect example of what a trip in a Tesla is like.

https://electrek.co/2019/07/09/tesla-model-3-is-the-best-road-trip-car-10-hours-of-driving-on-autopilot-and-0-hours-waiting-for-charging/

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Just wait until you are TENTH in line for the supercharger...

That's why they call it a long trip.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 11:08:18 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 11:56:03 AM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:
Many here can't seem to understand that EVs don't need to be impediments to driving cross country. Very few people won't want to stop periodically to eat and use a bathroom. Here is a perfect example of what a trip in a Tesla is like.

https://electrek.co/2019/07/09/tesla-model-3-is-the-best-road-trip-car-10-hours-of-driving-on-autopilot-and-0-hours-waiting-for-charging/

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

Just wait until you are TENTH in line for the supercharger...

20,000 miles and no lines yet. Most of it was done with Supercharging. I realized that with my particular driving routine, it did me little good to charge at home. Because of where the chargers are placed on the route I take, I'd still need to charge twice to get home. That will change when they get charging station in Frederick in a couple of months. Then I can charge at home, charge in Frederick and make it home again.

I think there are something like 20 charging sites around the country that have lines... out of almost 800 stations in the US presently. While California has 120 charging stations compared to no more than 40 in other states, they also have most of the congestion. I guess Teslas are pretty popular there.

I remember driving the 500 miles between TN and VA in my truck. I was ready to fall out of the truck by the time I got there. In the Tesla it is a much, much nicer trip.

--

Rick C.

+--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[whit3rd]

On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 5:32:52 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:

On 7/11/19 5:25 PM, Rick C wrote:

That's why Tesla has sold half a million EVs and no one else has.

Seems unlikely to be the reason. The US fast charging infrastructure
sucked 5 years ago and it still sucks, it just sucks somewhat less.

And the gasoline supply 'infrastructure' doesn't suck? Anyone without
a good local knowledge has problems finding diesel, and self-serve
stations get a LOT of slowpoke customers, at the most inconvenient times.

Oddly, Oregon (which has mandatory attendants at all fueling) works out well.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 2:48:17 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 02:52:28 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:1akaietbcjq8n31boppk5g92bqdd5nqg5k@4ax.com:

And sometimes you just want to get there.



I saw your post about being pressed back in the seat, and how much
you liked it.

Sometimes driving is fun, like on a twisty hilly road. Straight-line
on a freeway is not much fun. I just want to get that sort of driving
over. Mo doesn't mind driving the flats, so she lets me do the fun
parts.


You are a hypocrite. Most EVs have faster acceleration.

Not for the hours they sit in a charging station.

Except that they don't sit in a charging station for hours.

If you have a charger when you normally park your car (and it is typically parked for 95% of the time), slow charging isn't a problem.

Public charging stations can't afford to be tied up for hours at a time charging just one car.

You are just biased against certain Usenet newsgroup posters.

Their ideas, often. I try to not change my objective concepts based on
their personalities. That would be stupid, being wrong and yielding
them power that they certainly don't deserve.

But you don't seem to be all that successful in avoiding the problem.

Some of the biggest disasters in human history resulted from people
allowing the emotional force of others to bend their ability to
reason. It's really hard to think clearly inside a brain sloshing with
emotion and fear.

On the other hand, your attitude to anthropogenic global warming suggests that you real interest is in not feeling anxious, and you value maintaining your ignorant complacence above retaining contact with reality.

Or you could just be hopelessly gullible ...

Plenty of other reasons your horse blinders are adjusted to a thin
slit as well.

Insults and swearing are easy. Electronic design is more difficult.

John Larkin keeps on claiming this without ever providing any evidence that he has ever done it - he seems to confuse persistent tinkering with actual design.

He also seems to think that somebody pointing where he is failing to think things through is resorting "insults and swearing".

DLUNU does go in for swearing from time to time, but "horse blinders" doesn't qualify. It may be perjorative and insulting, but doesn't qualify as any kind of swearing. And it is difficult to point out that somebody is exhibiting defective cognition without being somewhat insulting.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 23:14:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 5:32:52 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:
On 7/11/19 5:25 PM, Rick C wrote:

That's why Tesla has sold half a million EVs and no one else has.


Seems unlikely to be the reason. The US fast charging infrastructure
sucked 5 years ago and it still sucks, it just sucks somewhat less.

And the gasoline supply 'infrastructure' doesn't suck? Anyone without
a good local knowledge has problems finding diesel, and self-serve
stations get a LOT of slowpoke customers, at the most inconvenient times.

Baloney. Ever hear of Gas Buddy?

>Oddly, Oregon (which has mandatory attendants at all fueling) works out well.

Really dumb. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to fill a gas tank.