EAGLE Netlist conversion

[Fred*]

Hello,
well, I surely don't want to reinvent the wheel. as I said, that's
essentialy for learning purpose (I'm coming back to Windows programming,with
C# and as I didn't find a schematic software that really please me...).
and there will probably never be something visible from this work, free or
not.. (but of course if I got something to show it will be free and probably
open source).
I have many things to learn or remember before being able to really
contribute to an existing open source project. and if I can do the
different things I want to try, I could re-use my work for example to make a
file importer/converter (for netlists or schematics) for an existing
project..

and I know gEDA, KiCAD, FreePCB, TinyCAD, SCORE,..
I like SCORE, but it's still in early development (I tried to contact the
developer, but his email is always full and rejecting new mail.. will try
again later).


concerning your link about EDIF, that's reflecting what I already found
about it.. :-(

Thanks.
Fred.

 

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:24:57 GMT, qrk <SpamTrap@spam.net> wrote:


On 30 Oct 2006 17:17:25 -0800, "lixiaoyao" <liletian@gmail.com> wrote:


hello all
Can anyone recommend a beginning book for pspice software, I never
use it before and just get it installed, thanks a lot.
Cheers,
B

If you are new to Spice, you can find tutorials on the web. You can
run a hand generated netlist in PSpice which will get you familiar
with Spice syntax. Highly recommended to learn the traditional way
before using schematic capture front-ends which make it easy to hide
what is happening.


[snip]


Mark


Good point! I went for several years with early versions of PSpice
using HAND-DRAWN schematics and typing in my own netlists ;-)

Same here. Even when I had set up a reliable procedure to draw in OrCad
and export to a PSpice netlist I kept on typing netlists. It was often
faster to do that, especially with rapid changes. Well, I guess there
are similar reasons why I bought a stick-shift car.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Robert]

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:39:31 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"
JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:m89ik2p95oomj6pvv0fg6jk7boumj6i1hh@4ax.com...
If my youngest son was still alive(*), he'd take anyone on... with his
1500HP Mustang ;-)

I bet he'd still want something other than a free beer as the prize...
those
1500HP engines have a significant cost per mile to run!


Certainly ;-)

We lucked out with that engine. It never got installed in the Mustang
before my son's death. Settling the estate, the machine shop that
built it to my son's specifications graciously took it back and
refunded the money.

...Jim Thompson

It might have been worth more when they took it back (being unused) than
when they sold it to him.

Robert

 

Joerg wrote:

Hello Karthik,


Which is the better option to buy -- ORCAD or EAGLE ?

Both are dated CAD systems IMO. OrCAD's dev, or what is jokingly
called dev, now emanates from India after OrCAD was sucked dry by
Cadence. Eagle is, and always has been, a difficult to use tool. They
are both very much products of the 90's and have had their day. The
only thing Eagle has going for it is the free version. Before you
spend money take one look at Pulsonix 4 and you'll see what a product
from this century should look.

Prescott

 

[JeffM]

DMBPrescott@ aol.com wrote:

Before you spend money take one look at Pulsonix 4
and you'll see what a product from this century should look.
Prescott

Yup. Pulsonix has rabid advocates here:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=Pulsonix+author:Leon&scoring=d
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/9124c951a8bc2198/68696da941bcdb2d?q=Pulsonix-imports+schematic.PCB.and.library.files+*-*-*-*-*-*-limitations-of-*-compatibility+zzz+opening-PCAD/Accel-*-*-*-*-*-with-*-Pulsonix-*+*-*-*-*-*-any-serious-CAD-programs-*-can-*-make-a-net-list-that-has-the-*-package-information
..
as well as pragmatic admirers
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=Pulsonix+author:Joel-Kolstad&scoring=d
[1]http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/156e588b818ac77b/417588c45949adf4?q=*-real-showstopper-bugs+import.ORCAD.schematics+Pulsonix+ORCAD.is.on.life.support.these.days+India+Cadence+get-fixed-*-*-immediately+zzz+DOS.version

(who are not blind to its shortcomings)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/d51da34addb81b6b/01e1d9f82a9d6697?q=*-*-producitivity-*+*-have-nets-connect-by-copying-pasting-*-*-*-*-*-components-*-*-*-nets-on-top-of-*-other-nets++drawing-*-line-past-*-*-*-pins-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-doesn't-connect-*-net-*-*-*+*-*-Pulsonix-EasyPC-lack+*-make-*-*-*-*-two-click-operations-*-twenty-click-operation
..
..
[1] In case you don't follow Joel's syntax,
he's talking about *Pulsonix* patches.

 

[Joerg]

Hello Prescott,

Which is the better option to buy -- ORCAD or EAGLE ?


Both are dated CAD systems IMO. ...

I don't know what else to wish for in a CAD system, other than what I
mentioned in the previous post. So, what would be modern CAD systems?
And here I mean somthing that doesn't cost as much as a Rolls Royce.

... OrCAD's dev, or what is jokingly
called dev, now emanates from India after OrCAD was sucked dry by
Cadence. ...

Had a hunch back then that this would happen. And then it did :-(

... Eagle is, and always has been, a difficult to use tool. ...

Not really, maybe except for the library editor where I do think that
OrCad's was more intuitive. Eagle is from Germany and for some reason
"cut" means "copy". Like usual in Europe they use lots of icons so
initially I needed a cheat sheet that showed me that clicking on the
marriage counseling icon really meant "duplicate". But after a few hours
of practice you get the hang of it.

... They
are both very much products of the 90's and have had their day. The
only thing Eagle has going for it is the free version. Before you
spend money take one look at Pulsonix 4 and you'll see what a product
from this century should look.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Wrighty]

This sounds very unprofessional of them.

I use PCBCAD17 which I got off ebay for a few quid and it installed
with zero problems.



Alfred Lorona wrote:

I can download Tiny Cad but can't open it. The screen says that the
oleacc.dll cannot start. I've tried downloading and installing that file.
How can I fix the problem? The Tiny Cad Yahoo group and the faq there is no
help.

Thanks, AL

 

[JeffM]

Wrighty TOP-POSTED:

I use PCBCAD17 which I got off ebay for a few quid

Troll
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/458810115ecdb20d/0c5c799ea7309947?q=promoting-your-product-by-spamming-usenet+zzz+fool+qq+pretending-to-be-a-user

Know your vendor: 8-(
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/07faedb5000ef8c1/70f06e9f2863598f?q=posted-pictures.of-his-ass+Yahoogroup+You-can-guess-how-he'd-respond-to-a-bug-report-or-request-for-assistance-with-his-software

 

[Leon]

JeffM wrote:

Wrighty TOP-POSTED:
I use PCBCAD17 which I got off ebay for a few quid

Troll
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/458810115ecdb20d/0c5c799ea7309947?q=promoting-your-product-by-spamming-usenet+zzz+fool+qq+pretending-to-be-a-user

Know your vendor: 8-(
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/07faedb5000ef8c1/70f06e9f2863598f?q=posted-pictures.of-his-ass+Yahoogroup+You-can-guess-how-he'd-respond-to-a-bug-report-or-request-for-assistance-with-his-software

I've just reported him to his ISP (UKOnline). They told me that his
account was terminated back in July but they didn't delete his web
site. They have promised me that it will be removed within 24 hours. He
seems to have sent this latest post from a new account with the same
ISP, so I've asked them to do something about it, as well.

Leon

 

[Leon]

Leon wrote:

JeffM wrote:
Wrighty TOP-POSTED:
I use PCBCAD17 which I got off ebay for a few quid

Troll
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/458810115ecdb20d/0c5c799ea7309947?q=promoting-your-product-by-spamming-usenet+zzz+fool+qq+pretending-to-be-a-user

Know your vendor: 8-(
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/07faedb5000ef8c1/70f06e9f2863598f?q=posted-pictures.of-his-ass+Yahoogroup+You-can-guess-how-he'd-respond-to-a-bug-report-or-request-for-assistance-with-his-software

I've just reported him to his ISP (UKOnline). They told me that his
account was terminated back in July but they didn't delete his web
site. They have promised me that it will be removed within 24 hours. He
seems to have sent this latest post from a new account with the same
ISP, so I've asked them to do something about it, as well.

Leon

I was actually wrong about his current ISP, a DNS search showed it as
Opal Telecom. I've complained to them about him.

Leon

 

[KBG]

Hi,

What about PCAD and EWB ... ?
I came to know that EWB is also good one.
But, does it have all the necessary stuffs just like ORCAD, EAGLE ,
PULSONIX.

Further, i am interested in KiCAD, gEDA also. But, do those have all
the necessary functionalities and easy interfaces just as ORCAD, EAGLE
, PULSONIX.

Share your views regarding PCAD, EWB, KiCAD and gEDA.

Really, a big set of tools with vast features to download and check
all the tools before
getting on with one of them.

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

 

[Richard Kanarek]

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/tree/browse_frm/thread/07faedb5000ef8c1/5b8e1083793b0ff1?rnum=1&q=posted-pictures.of-his-ass+Yahoogroup+You-can-guess-how-he%27d-respond-to-a-bug-report-or-request-for-assistance-with-his-software&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fsci.electronics.design%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F07faedb5000ef8c1%2F70f06e9f2863598f%3Fq%3Dposted-pictures.of-his-ass+Yahoogroup+You-can-guess-how-he%27d-respond-to-a-bug-report-or-request-for-assistance-with-his-software%26#doc_5a6d0e2cfe12380a

Shortened link:

http://tinyurl.com/yc9xsu

 

[Joerg]

Hello Karthik,

What about PCAD and EWB ... ?
I came to know that EWB is also good one.
But, does it have all the necessary stuffs just like ORCAD, EAGLE ,
PULSONIX.

Further, i am interested in KiCAD, gEDA also. But, do those have all
the necessary functionalities and easy interfaces just as ORCAD, EAGLE
, PULSONIX.

Share your views regarding PCAD, EWB, KiCAD and gEDA.

Except for EWB I don't know any of these from experience. For me a CAD
system is like a pair of pliers, I try it out and if it works I buy it,
then it goes into the tool cabinet and is used whenever needed. I don't
spend much time to keep looking for a "better set of pliers" if the
current ones work.

At a client I tried EWB but was not thrilled. For simulations I like
LTSpice a lot better and for schematics Eagle or the older OrCad
versions. In the case of OrCad preferably the old DOS version which I
still have. It was (and is) better than anything I have seen after that.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Joel Kolstad]

"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
news:1162586665.261993.56030@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Yup. Pulsonix has rabid advocates here:

One of the first things I remember hearing about Pulsonix was that "it comes
with its own cheerleader," that of course being Leon. I like Leon, even
if I do think he views Pulsonix through rose-colored glasses. Plus he has a
cool web site.

Leon started and has maintained a Pulsonix users group on Yahoo! groups, which
has about zero spam and lots of good, solid information plus some useful
files -- I'd encourage anyone considering Pulsonix to go and take a look when
they have the time.

---Joel

 

[Joel Kolstad]

BTW... I should mention... I first ended up with a copy of Pulsonix as an
inexpensive way to get ahold of John Warner's SIMetrix SPICE simulator. Since
SIMetrix started being distributed by Cantena, the price rose significantly,
and while they have added a bunch of extra features, for the features *I*
needed Pulsonix was still -- by far -- the least expensive option. (John sold
me on SIMetrix while I was in college... the college had a site license for
HSPICE, and while almost everyone else was slugging it out through
hand-entered netlists, I generally was able to finish assignments in less time
with SIMetirx. In that case, I came upon SIMetrix because they had a student
version that understood BSIM3 models, which the student versions of, e.g.,
PSpice didn't. Plus John Warner was still popping up on Usenet every now and
again, having debates with the likes of Kevin Aylward of SuperSpice fame.
) Later on we needed to do a few simple boards, and although we do have a
copy of PADS kicking around for "high end" boards, it was easiest (and *much*
cheaper than buying another PADS seat -- the outright purchase price of a
Pulsonix PCB is less than we pay annual in PADS maintenance) to get a
pin-limited upgrade to Pulsonix to lay them out.

As far as I can tell, "Pulsonix SPICE," as it's called, is not a particularly
popular configuration; I think the number of times I've seen people on the
Yahoo! group discuss it could be counted on one hand. That's a shame, I
think, since the combination of Pulsonix PCB and SPICE is quite powerful and
inexpensive.

---Joel

 

[Robert Lacoste]

"KBG" <karthik.balaguru@lntinfotech.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1162461223.618233.53960@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Hi ,

Which is the better option to buy -- ORCAD or EAGLE ?
Kindly share your views and suggestions .

Proteus...

 

[KBG]

Thankyou for all of your valuable responses & tips. I will try the demo
versions also before deciding on this.

Regards,
Karthik Balaguru

 

[Joerg]

Hello Karthik,

Thankyou for all of your valuable responses & tips. I will try the demo
versions also before deciding on this.

Very wise decision, I did that as well. Make sure you also download the
manual. You'll need that, especially for library editing.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[DJ Delorie]

"Andy Peters" <Bassman59a@yahoo.com> writes:

As it turns out, the free (as in beer) PCB software is worth exactly
what you pay for it.

Why?

 

[DJ Delorie]

Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> writes:

I tried it from source. As I stated some years ago.

Ok, a lot has changed in the last few years.

WTF is wrong with a tgz.

The installer CD has all the tgzs you need, plus a script to build
what you're missing and install it - all in a separate directory, so
it wouldn't mess up your system.

So you can just build the tgz off the CD if that's what you want.

Probably will not work ;-)

If not, we want to know. Ok, Stuart wants to know ;-)