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[Spehro Pefhany]

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:48:01 +0100, the renowned "Black"
<fzwart@hotpop.com> wrote:

Who needs missiles when you can hijack a couple of airplanes to do the job
....

If they had the capability and desire, terrorists would probably use a
few $3000 shipping containers, and one or two would get through.

ABM is intended to nullify the deterrent capability of weak states and
3rd-rate regional powers, not for use against terrorists.


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[Spehro Pefhany]

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 13:38:52 -0500, the renowned Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@us.ibm.com> wrote:

Actually, all the electricity gets sent back and forth 60 times a second.
Interdependence is a wonderful thing, which is why all families are happy.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

<LOL>


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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[Ken Finney]

"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:36:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

Canada has recently decided to withdraw from the North American
Missile Defense Agreement.

Not withdraw, just not actively join in, other than through NORAD.
Apparently it will make no practical difference in any case.

P.M. Martin currently heads a "minority government", meaning that he
has to be unusually sensitive to the wishes of the electorate. His
government would likely have fallen had he tried to ram such an
unpopular program through. Public opposition to participation is 3 to
2 in English Canada and 3 to 1 in Quebec. Democracy can be like that.

Plus, Canada does have some pressing military needs. Bilge pumps, for
instance.

 

[R Adsett]

In article <kqpb219lahk3t5h8uaf9n2tsinr4t66ut0@4ax.com>,
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat says...

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:17:46 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote:

The whole point of ABMs is to sustain deterrance.

Nah, to the extent they may work, they are a scheme to gain
first-strike capability over other countries, and thus make it easier
to threaten them with a first use of nuclear weapons or subject them
to conventional attack.

While that certainly appears to be its only effect, I suspect a lot of
the proponents are more attracted to the will-o-wisp of a 'perfect
shield'. Not to say there aren't some who relish the upper hand it might
give them on attack (provided of course they can ever get it to work).

Robert

 

[Robert Monsen]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:17:46 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote:


The whole point of ABMs is to sustain deterrance.


Nah, to the extent they may work, they are a scheme to gain
first-strike capability over other countries, and thus make it easier
to threaten them with a first use of nuclear weapons or subject them
to conventional attack.

Submarines provide guaranteed survivable and robust response to an
enemy first strike, so the ABMs are most certainly not required for
that.

As you say, any talk of 'tactical nukes' or 'anti-missle shields' are
really directed at keeping Russia and China in line.

Korea and Iran aren't about to take on the role of "Evil Empire",
despite Bush's "Axis of Evil" rhetoric. They might be able to scrape
together a few hiroshima sized nukes (assuming they haven't already done
so) and sell them on the black market, but nobody is going to put such a
precious commodity on a missle when they can ship one to NY in a
container for $1000.

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:56:50 GMT, the renowned "Ken Finney"
<kenneth.c.finney@boeing.com> wrote:

Plus, Canada does have some pressing military needs. Bilge pumps, for
instance.

Or maybe some Boeing helicopters, rather than EH-101 or Eurocopter
NH-90. I think Boeing has the largest non-Russian product (and it's
fairly unlikely Canada would go with Russian helicopters).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:57:04 +0100, the renowned "Black"
<fzwart@hotpop.com> wrote:

"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
ABM is intended to nullify the deterrent capability of weak states and
3rd-rate regional powers, not for use against terrorists.

Since when do those states comply to the rule that they only use missiles ?
Koreans can fly planes too.

A very short flight, followed by plummeting, exploding, burning sort
of things.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:19:17 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:20:02 -0800, John Larkin
jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:53:36 GMT, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:36:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

Canada has recently decided to withdraw from the North American
Missile Defense Agreement.

Today, Paul Martin, the Prime Minister of Canada, has declared we (the
USA) will have to ask permission before shooting down missiles (for
example, originating from North Korea) over Canadian airspace.

Bwahahahahaha!

With what army will PM Martin be enforcing such a ludicrous statement?

Seems Canada's principal worry should be whether the Koreans are
sufficiently competent to CLEAR Canadian airspace!

Bye, bye, Toronto ;-)

Stick to what you're good at.

The US would get pretty hot under the collar if anybody fired missiles
over their territory, whether or not it was 'in defence'.


So we should sacrifice entire cities to Canada's political
sensitivities?

John

Yep, Canadian cities.

Actually we should just send all the beef back, quoting Spehro, that's
the way democracy works ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Hey, Jim, please don't insult our Canukite neighbors too much. They
might cut off our supply of Canadian Bacon, and we couldn't make Eggs
Benedict any more, and the entire US brunch industry would collapse.
Thousands of gay waiters named Brian ("hello, I'll be your server
today, let me tell you about the specials") would be thrown out of
work.

And don't forget, we need the English Muffins, too.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:16:21 GMT, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:20:02 -0800, John Larkin
jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 06:53:36 GMT, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:36:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

Canada has recently decided to withdraw from the North American
Missile Defense Agreement.

Today, Paul Martin, the Prime Minister of Canada, has declared we (the
USA) will have to ask permission before shooting down missiles (for
example, originating from North Korea) over Canadian airspace.

Bwahahahahaha!

With what army will PM Martin be enforcing such a ludicrous statement?

Seems Canada's principal worry should be whether the Koreans are
sufficiently competent to CLEAR Canadian airspace!

Bye, bye, Toronto ;-)

Stick to what you're good at.

The US would get pretty hot under the collar if anybody fired missiles
over their territory, whether or not it was 'in defence'.


So we should sacrifice entire cities to Canada's political
sensitivities?

Why should anyone comply to civilized guidelines of behavior, or to
the rules of law?

So you should write to Kim and point out (very politely) that firing
missiles over Japan isn't nice.

John

 

[Rich Grise]

[posted from a.b.s.electronic]

On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 00:15:02 -0800, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark

"Tim Williams" <tmoranwms@charter.net> wrote in message
"Al Borowski" <al.borowski@EraseThis.gmail.com> wrote in message
Why don't you take your lunatic fringe political BS to the
appropriate
newsgroup?!

Seconded.

Thirded, and seconded Gregg's and especially xray's comments.

Hey! I represent - er, resent that!

Please, oh please, someone add a fourth and a fifth, etc., so we can get
this political BS to stop.

So, we have a tradeoff between idiots clogging up the group with lunatic
fringe BS (of every stripe - there's a 23-post apolitical pissing contest
a couple of threads up), and those who clog up the NG bitching about OT
posts.

I say, leave BOTH kinds out, and plonk the offenders. At least on
_this_ NG. ;-)

If you want to find a place that won't notice more political lunatic BS,
check out sci.physics! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHIS
landPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote (in <6mce211b6jmivm7tf4usuchfv2c6ko8h2v@
4ax.com&gt about 'OT: Canada Agrees to be Missile Target', on Thu, 3 Mar
2005:

Hey, Jim, please don't insult our Canukite neighbors too much. They
might cut off our supply of Canadian Bacon, and we couldn't make Eggs
Benedict any more, and the entire US brunch industry would collapse.
Thousands of gay waiters named Brian ("hello, I'll be your server today,
let me tell you about the specials") would be thrown out of work.

And don't forget, we need the English Muffins, too.

You have a highly commendable sense of priorities. Incidentally, in UK,
we call Canadian bacon 'back bacon' or maybe 'cut-through'. And I'm not
at all sure that your 'English muffins' are what we call(ed) a muffin.
We appear to call your muffins 'American muffins'!

Why is the spin you can put on a Frisbee called 'English'?
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Woodgate wrote:

I have it on excellent authority that Eve was US Citizen, and she got us
thrown out of Eden!
--
Regards, John Woodgate

Lies! All lies! She was French!

--
Cyber stalking is a crime!

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 22:58:31 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:57:57 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote:

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:17:35 GMT, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

I understand that the Korean nuclear capability is an indirect result
of the US's molycoddling of Pakistan.

No argument there. We're directly at fault for all the evils of the
world for the last 4,000 years at least.

John

You've been reading too much Chomsky. Stay away from those MIT types.

Chomsky is a hoot; he's listened to his own fatheaded twaddle for so
long that he's grown exponentially loony. Somebody just did some
experiments that prove that one of his pet linguistic theories (that
language skill is a necessary portal to mathematics) is hogwash. What
a Moore-On.

John

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:25:22 +0000, the renowned John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlog
DOTyou.knowwhat> wrote (in <13qg211gcukktju7pdcdja4mo6k2pj28qn@4ax.com&gt
about 'OT: Canada Agrees to be Missile Target', on Fri, 4 Mar 2005:

John- if you have time available, perhaps we could get together. If I
can be of any assistance, please ask.

Sounds interesting. The thing is, that I am scheduled to spend most of
May outside UK at IEC meetings, so by June 1 I expect not to be human.
You might have to feed me through the bars!

It would be a pleasure. ;-)


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 19:42:54 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:32:26 -0500, Chuck Harris
cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
Light bulb socket extender... very short length

Provides pig-tail out the side

Does such a thing exist?

...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,

It would help to know a little more about the application.

Is it for normal household 120V screw base lamps?

How long is short?

Is the pig-tail in series or parallel, or is pig-tail Arizonian for
a pull cord switch?

-Chuck

Sno-o-o-ort ;-) Isn't "pig-tail" a fat broad ?

I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

(My old garage door opener had terminals that I could hang a relay on
to turn on my "parking guidance" LEDs, the new one was conceived by
someone afraid of big brother... virtually vacuum sealed ;-)

...Jim Thompson

IIRC, you can buy a light-bulb adapter that provides a two-blade
receptacle perpendicular to the light bulb axis. A few bux at Home
Despot, brown bakelite. The purpose would be to tap off an extension.
Then you can plug a line cord into the receptacle and get your pigtail
without any modifications to the GDO.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:16:00 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

IIRC, you can buy a light-bulb adapter that provides a two-blade
receptacle perpendicular to the light bulb axis. A few bux at Home
Despot, brown bakelite. The purpose would be to tap off an extension.
Then you can plug a line cord into the receptacle and get your pigtail
without any modifications to the GDO.

---
But... about 3" long _after_ it's screwed in. :-(

--
John Fields

 

[ptaylor]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:32:26 -0500, Chuck Harris
cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:

Light bulb socket extender... very short length

Provides pig-tail out the side

Does such a thing exist?

...Jim Thompson

Hi Jim,

It would help to know a little more about the application.

Is it for normal household 120V screw base lamps?

How long is short?

Is the pig-tail in series or parallel, or is pig-tail Arizonian for
a pull cord switch?

-Chuck


Sno-o-o-ort ;-) Isn't "pig-tail" a fat broad ?

I want a pair of (parallel) sense leads that tell me that the light is
receiving power.

(My old garage door opener had terminals that I could hang a relay on
to turn on my "parking guidance" LEDs, the new one was conceived by
someone afraid of big brother... virtually vacuum sealed ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Ahh..
Here's something I ran across..I was taking apart a dead Compact
Flourescent Bulb..and cut the base open,and snipped the leads to the PC
board off..
Viola! Base,complete with "pigtail" for next to nothing,if you've got a
dead CFL around..
Use a "Y" socket thingbulb in one,and pigtail in the other..

Or maybe a Y and one of those bulb-base to 2-prong outlet adaptors..You
can probably find one at a decent hardware store for a buck or two,next
to the Y's for a couple bucks. ;-)

 

[Joerg]

Hello Jim,

Maybe I will examine the belt travel and see if I can't mount a leaf
switch somewhere.

Ours has a low voltage leaf switch at both ends. If you had one at the
far end it could be on all the time the garage door is not in the fully
closed position. Should do for the Q45 since you probably won't close
the door before the parking procedure has been completed, to avoid what
happened to a friend's Tahoe (ka-crunch...).

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:35:26 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:06:57 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

[snip]

No. This was just a light lunch ;-) "N" had a flank steak "salad",
and I decided to go peasant food and had chicken and sausage; and a
bottle-and-a-half of Col di Sasso. Then an Italian ice with assorted
berries and Espresso.

...Jim Thompson


I'm taking Mo out tonight to our second-favorite Vietnamese
restaurant. We'll eat our fill and have leftovers to take home, total
maybe $16, $20 with tip. No wine, but the tea is good and free.

John

The Burger King a few blocks from here went belly-up. <CHEER> <CHEER>

The building now houses Eddie Chan's Bistro... nice pot-stickers and
spring rolls!

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:21:17 -0800, John Larkin
<jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:34:47 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:35:26 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:06:57 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

[snip]

No. This was just a light lunch ;-) "N" had a flank steak "salad",
and I decided to go peasant food and had chicken and sausage; and a
bottle-and-a-half of Col di Sasso. Then an Italian ice with assorted
berries and Espresso.

...Jim Thompson


I'm taking Mo out tonight to our second-favorite Vietnamese
restaurant. We'll eat our fill and have leftovers to take home, total
maybe $16, $20 with tip. No wine, but the tea is good and free.

John

The Burger King a few blocks from here went belly-up. <CHEER> <CHEER

The building now houses Eddie Chan's Bistro... nice pot-stickers and
spring rolls!

...Jim Thompson


Next time you're in San Francisco, have dim sum *and* dinner at Harbor
Village. It's a high-end Chinese restaurant: fabulous Peking duck,
amazing seafood. They have the exotica, shark-fin soup, bird's nest
dessert (about $150, I recall.) You could easily spend $500 a head if
you want the fancy stuff. We had dim sum for four on Saturday, $66
total, not bad for such yummies. In the mini-chinatown where I work,
you can get a mountain of chow mein (enough to feed me four times)
with tea and fortune cookie for $3.50, or a small bucket of takeout
noodles or fried rice for $0.75.

John

When I was a student at MIT I was an at-least-twice-a-week visitor to
Boston's chinatown restaurants.

We frequented one place (Golden Rice) so much, that, when we
graduated, the restaurant closed for the evening and threw us a
private party.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.