DVD picture doesn't fill the screen

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:20:37 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

I'm not really interested in trying to prove a variation in picture
quality between media brands, or explain it. I merely stated that I
could see a difference, and was told that I couldn't. I really don't
care whether anyone believes it or not.

So stop replying and let the thread die.
Little wonder you have so many whacked out ideas...

 

[felix]

On 16-January-2016 4:02 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Jeßus wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:10:18 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:25 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:08:04 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.
obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all
Well, I have a lot to do with 'high end audio'.

bullshit. if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me.

ROTFL.

and don't you live out in the bush somewhere?

How in the hell is that relevant?


So does Trevor Wilson
(wherever he's disappeared to lately).

So, you're one of those audiophools that buys into the bullshit
promulgated by snake oil merchants. There's only so much a cable can
do, and if it's well made out of decent quality materials, then that's
as good as it gets.

Feel free to spend two grand or more on an RCA cable if you like, I
doubt you would anyway as I don't even believe your claim that you
know a damned thing about 'high end audio', as you put it.

why would you. you never believe anything I say. worked in the industry
for 30 years fuckwit. even had my own business.

Mmm... '30 years in the industry' and you asked the questions you
asked... LOL.

So spill the details on your business then.
You won't, because you can't. There isnt a hifi store that ever
existed in Australia that somebody on stereo.net doesnt know about. So
let's hear all about that, felix.

What gear do you have, out of interest?

none of your business. I'm tired of ppl on usenet constantly wanting me
to justify everything I say.

Yet you don't ask yourself why that is? Could it be a conspiracy to
pick on just you perhaps?

you don't have to believe it, I don't care.
and although I do have good hifi and audio equipment- including the
brands Redgum, Kef, Richard Allen, Yamaha, Panasonic, Dual, Akai,
Onkyo,
Samsung, Beyonwiyz, Topfield, Pioneer, LG,

So would I be, actually. Panasonic, Samsung, Topfield, LG for example
aren't 'high end' and never have been. Dual, Akai were borderline at
best and only their very best stuff even reaches borderline level.
Onkyo's very top of the range stuff is alright, ditto Pioneer (I much
prefer TAD though - do you know what that is?)

I do have a pair of Kefs, but they get no use as they're not my cup of
tea.

and la pičce de résistance..
three t-boxes and Foxtel, and I'd be surprised if you have even
several of those-

Fuck... I'm gonna have to stop sipping beer when I read your posts.
Tired of having to wipe the monitor down.

and even my PC audio in the study runs thru a
HiFi amp

From the sound card to whatever this 'hifi' amp is, right? Speakers
are?

The PC I'm using right now is connected to a $2000 DAC, which is
currently connected to a fully restored Sansui AU-717 and a pair of
1293SRTL's, the ones with the 12" drivers:
http://adelaidespeakers.com/summoner-floorstanders.html

And yes, very decent interconnects and speaker cables, without going
silly and spending/wasting money on snake oil crap.

I have several vintage integrated and pre/power amplifiers, all
professionally restored/improved. Both solid state and valve. Marantz,
Luxman and many Sansuis from their golden era. And many more to come,
too. It's become a hobby of mine. A few decent turntables too,
including a couple of restored Garrard 401s. I've spent around $16K
this year alone on equipment, CDs and vinyl.


Not far off my annual income.

makes one wonder what he does for a living.




--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[Rod Speed]

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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:58:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
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In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_ plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever you
like.

Can you really see felix using Photoshop??? I can't...

Plenty of other stuff that even someone as stupid as him
can use to fiddle with the saturation that he claims varys
with the DVD blanks.

 

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:10:18 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:25 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:08:04 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.
obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all
Well, I have a lot to do with 'high end audio'.

bullshit. if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me.

ROTFL.

> and don't you live out in the bush somewhere?

How in the hell is that relevant?

So does Trevor Wilson
(wherever he's disappeared to lately).

So, you're one of those audiophools that buys into the bullshit
promulgated by snake oil merchants. There's only so much a cable can
do, and if it's well made out of decent quality materials, then that's
as good as it gets.

Feel free to spend two grand or more on an RCA cable if you like, I
doubt you would anyway as I don't even believe your claim that you
know a damned thing about 'high end audio', as you put it.

why would you. you never believe anything I say. worked in the industry
for 30 years fuckwit. even had my own business.

Mmm... '30 years in the industry' and you asked the questions you
asked... LOL.

So spill the details on your business then.
You won't, because you can't. There isnt a hifi store that ever
existed in Australia that somebody on stereo.net doesnt know about. So
let's hear all about that, felix.

What gear do you have, out of interest?

none of your business. I'm tired of ppl on usenet constantly wanting me
to justify everything I say.

Yet you don't ask yourself why that is? Could it be a conspiracy to
pick on just you perhaps?

you don't have to believe it, I don't care.
and although I do have good hifi and audio equipment- including the
brands Redgum, Kef, Richard Allen, Yamaha, Panasonic, Dual, Akai, Onkyo,
Samsung, Beyonwiyz, Topfield, Pioneer, LG,

So would I be, actually. Panasonic, Samsung, Topfield, LG for example
aren't 'high end' and never have been. Dual, Akai were borderline at
best and only their very best stuff even reaches borderline level.
Onkyo's very top of the range stuff is alright, ditto Pioneer (I much
prefer TAD though - do you know what that is?)

I do have a pair of Kefs, but they get no use as they're not my cup of
tea.

and la pičce de résistance..
three t-boxes and Foxtel, and I'd be surprised if you have even several of those-

Fuck... I'm gonna have to stop sipping beer when I read your posts.
Tired of having to wipe the monitor down.

and even my PC audio in the study runs thru a
HiFi amp

From the sound card to whatever this 'hifi' amp is, right? Speakers
are?

The PC I'm using right now is connected to a $2000 DAC, which is
currently connected to a fully restored Sansui AU-717 and a pair of
1293SRTL's, the ones with the 12" drivers:
http://adelaidespeakers.com/summoner-floorstanders.html

And yes, very decent interconnects and speaker cables, without going
silly and spending/wasting money on snake oil crap.

I have several vintage integrated and pre/power amplifiers, all
professionally restored/improved. Both solid state and valve. Marantz,
Luxman and many Sansuis from their golden era. And many more to come,
too. It's become a hobby of mine. A few decent turntables too,
including a couple of restored Garrard 401s. I've spent around $16K
this year alone on equipment, CDs and vinyl.

I
don't need to own a Mercedes to know it's a better car than a Ford, and
nor do I accept the argument that they will both perform equally well
because they are both cars and both well made.

An idiotic analogy on the face of it.

Let's see you post your thoughts to stereo.net, I'd really like to see
that

wow! some good gear there. bet it's all connected with leads from a $2
shop..

If you are at all for real, my guess is you'll be institutionalised
within the next few years due to dementia and/or psych issues.

 

[Clocky]

On 16/01/2016 10:11 AM, Je�us wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:17:44 +0800, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com
wrote:

I suppose you can see a difference when using two different brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much sense.

Oh Jaysus... now there's a can of worms, much like with the snake oil
cable merchants in the hifi world

Yeah

Apparently Felix is not finished trolling and now claims he can see a
difference between HDMI cables too. Heh.

 

[Rod Speed]

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On 16-January-2016 12:58 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
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In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_ plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever you
like.


duh! the photos would have to be unaltered

Impossible to ensure that, stupid.

Ideally one would want an image of the exact same frame from both DVDs.
To this end, some DVD players have an option of only pausing on
keyframes, which would make it easier to manually pick the exact same
frame to make an image of.

 

[felix]

On 16-January-2016 12:59 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 15-January-2016 3:10 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:


"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I
prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have
better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no
problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG
disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of
discs produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video.
Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is
like saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB
memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.


well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the
differences
between the two.

Bet you can't in a proper double blind trial.


It proves to me that he would be a prime candidate to sell some
welding wire size speaker cables with whizbang insulation to!

it's well known among hifi enthusiasts that speaker cables can
affect the sound from speakers. many years ago I did some testing
in that regard. there was a popular idea at the time to use 240v
solid copper wire electrical cable for speakers, but it never
produced the same sound or tonal quality.

Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.

obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all

I have actually, fuckwit child.

yeah, sure you have mr. know-it-all-and-never-wrong..


--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[felix]

On 16-January-2016 1:25 PM, Je�us wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:08:04 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.
obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all
Well, I have a lot to do with 'high end audio'.

bullshit. if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me. and don't you live
out in the bush somewhere?

So does Trevor Wilson
(wherever he's disappeared to lately).

So, you're one of those audiophools that buys into the bullshit
promulgated by snake oil merchants. There's only so much a cable can
do, and if it's well made out of decent quality materials, then that's
as good as it gets.

Feel free to spend two grand or more on an RCA cable if you like, I
doubt you would anyway as I don't even believe your claim that you
know a damned thing about 'high end audio', as you put it.

why would you. you never believe anything I say. worked in the industry
for 30 years fuckwit. even had my own business.

> What gear do you have, out of interest?

none of your business. I'm tired of ppl on usenet constantly wanting me
to justify everything I say. you don't have to believe it, I don't care.
and although I do have good hifi and audio equipment- including the
brands Redgum, Kef, Richard Allen, Yamaha, Panasonic, Dual, Akai, Onkyo,
Samsung, Beyonwiyz, Topfield, Pioneer, LG, and la pièce de rÊsistance..
three t-boxes and Foxtel, and even my PC audio in the study runs thru a
HiFi amp, and I'd be surprised if you have even several of those- I
don't need to own a Mercedes to know it's a better car than a Ford, and
nor do I accept the argument that they will both perform equally well
because they are both cars and both well made.

Let's see you post your thoughts to stereo.net, I'd really like to see
that

wow! some good gear there. bet it's all connected with leads from a $2
shop..


--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:27:58 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 12:58 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
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In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_ plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever you
like.


duh! the photos would have to be unaltered

Trolling...

 

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
I suppose you can see a difference when using two different brands of
HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as much sense.

well you are completely wrong there because there are visible
differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see them, I can only
assume you do not have equipment of sufficient quality
You really are a lost cause

Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of reasonable quality
materials and are not faulty in some way and of the same length should
produce the same result.

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality affects
audio/video quality

LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the topic.
Espouse your theories there. Please do

NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I reinstated).
Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling, which I'm at the
point of being convinced is exactly what you've been doing these past
three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are just *too*
ridiculous to be for real.

 

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:08:04 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.

obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all

Well, I have a lot to do with 'high end audio'. So does Trevor Wilson
(wherever he's disappeared to lately).

So, you're one of those audiophools that buys into the bullshit
promulgated by snake oil merchants. There's only so much a cable can
do, and if it's well made out of decent quality materials, then that's
as good as it gets.

Feel free to spend two grand or more on an RCA cable if you like, I
doubt you would anyway as I don't even believe your claim that you
know a damned thing about 'high end audio', as you put it.
What gear do you have, out of interest?

Let's see you post your thoughts to stereo.net, I'd really like to see
that

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2016-01-16, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

no, you are if you want to argue against what is well known among
audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect quality affects
audio/video quality

yeah, but with digital signals you don't get snow, ghosting, tinting or
distortion, if the cable doesn't work right you get artifacts, or more
often nothing at all (no picture, no sound).

--
\_(ツ)_

 

[Rod Speed]

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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:58:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
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In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so
you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince
us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could
possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_
plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I
would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever you
like.

Can you really see felix using Photoshop??? I can't...

Plenty of other stuff that even someone as stupid as him
can use to fiddle with the saturation that he claims varys
with the DVD blanks.

Sure, but do you think he'd do a convincing job of it?

Likely, it isnt that hard to do. Even someone as stupid as him
should be able to do that if someone was actually stupid
enough to lend him a seeing eye dog and a white cane.

> He can't even make a rational post.

True, but that's much harder for fools like that to manage.

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 16-January-2016 3:13 PM, Je�us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:10:18 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:25 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:08:04 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.
obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all
Well, I have a lot to do with 'high end audio'.
bullshit. if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me.
ROTFL.

and don't you live out in the bush somewhere?
How in the hell is that relevant?

not many hi end audio stores out in the bush

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to
work out how to get to somewhere that has them,
if someone was actually stupid enough to lend
you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.

In NSW they even provide 4 free trips a year to those who qualify.

So does Trevor Wilson
(wherever he's disappeared to lately).

So, you're one of those audiophools that buys into the bullshit
promulgated by snake oil merchants. There's only so much a cable can
do, and if it's well made out of decent quality materials, then that's
as good as it gets.

Feel free to spend two grand or more on an RCA cable if you like, I
doubt you would anyway as I don't even believe your claim that you
know a damned thing about 'high end audio', as you put it.
why would you. you never believe anything I say. worked in the industry
for 30 years fuckwit. even had my own business.
Mmm... '30 years in the industry' and you asked the questions you
asked... LOL.

So spill the details on your business then.
You won't, because you can't. There isnt a hifi store that ever
existed in Australia

never said I had a hifi store, or even a store.

Just your dick in your hand, as always.

that somebody on stereo.net doesnt know about. So
let's hear all about that, felix.

I have no intention of giving out personal info about myself.

You've done that already.

I'll admit it annoys me that you and others will never believe anything I
say,

Because of the mindless silly shit you spew.

> but everything I have said is fact,

Pigs arse it is.

so I guess I just have to accept that some ppl are just naturally
suspicious

They actually understand how DIGITAL systems work, even if you don’t.

> and live with it.

Yes, you do get to live with the FACT that you actually
are too stupid to understand how DIGITAL systems work.

makes me wonder tho about your/their own integrity if you/they keep
assuming others are always lying.

No one has ever said you are lying except whoever it
was that believes you are just trolling. We've noticed
that you don’t have a fucking clue about how DIGITAL
systems work.

What gear do you have, out of interest?

none of your business. I'm tired of ppl on usenet constantly wanting me
to justify everything I say.

Yet you don't ask yourself why that is? Could it be a conspiracy to pick
on just you perhaps?

I reckon it's because many ppl here can't see beyond the end of their
noses.

More fool you. Its actually because EVERYONE in here
who has commented actually understands how DIGITAL
systems work, even if you are too stupid to do that yourself.

None of the rest of your even sillier shit worth bothering with...

you don't have to believe it, I don't care.
and although I do have good hifi and audio equipment- including the
brands Redgum, Kef, Richard Allen, Yamaha, Panasonic, Dual, Akai, Onkyo,
Samsung, Beyonwiyz, Topfield, Pioneer, LG,
So would I be, actually. Panasonic, Samsung, Topfield, LG for example
aren't 'high end' and never have been.

and I never said they were. if you spent more time taking note of what I
actually say instead of simply wanting to have a go at me you might do
better

Dual, Akai were borderline at
best and only their very best stuff even reaches borderline level.
Onkyo's very top of the range stuff is alright, ditto Pioneer (I much
prefer TAD though - do you know what that is?)

I do have a pair of Kefs, but they get no use as they're not my cup of
tea.

yeah, we know your preferred beverage is beer


and la pièce de rÊsistance..
three t-boxes and Foxtel, and I'd be surprised if you have even several
of those-
Fuck... I'm gonna have to stop sipping beer when I read your posts.
Tired of having to wipe the monitor down.

and even my PC audio in the study runs thru a
HiFi amp
From the sound card to whatever this 'hifi' amp is, right? Speakers
are?

The PC I'm using right now is connected to a $2000 DAC, which is
currently connected to a fully restored Sansui AU-717 and a pair of
1293SRTL's, the ones with the 12" drivers:
http://adelaidespeakers.com/summoner-floorstanders.html

And yes, very decent interconnects and speaker cables, without going
silly and spending/wasting money on snake oil crap.

so why are you arguing with me about interconnects? why aren't you
connecting that (if you even have it, time for me to get suspicious now)
with elcheapo $2 leads?


I have several vintage integrated and pre/power amplifiers, all
professionally restored/improved. Both solid state and valve. Marantz,
Luxman and many Sansuis from their golden era. And many more to come,
too. It's become a hobby of mine. A few decent turntables too,
including a couple of restored Garrard 401s. I've spent around $16K
this year alone on equipment, CDs and vinyl.

I
don't need to own a Mercedes to know it's a better car than a Ford, and
nor do I accept the argument that they will both perform equally well
because they are both cars and both well made.
An idiotic analogy on the face of it.

nope. it's what ppl (and you!) have been arguing. leads are leads and
quality/construction doesn't matter.


Let's see you post your thoughts to stereo.net, I'd really like to see
that
wow! some good gear there. bet it's all connected with leads from a $2
shop..
If you are at all for real, my guess is you'll be institutionalised
within the next few years due to dementia and/or psych issues.

so you don't even understand sarcasm?

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 16-January-2016 3:16 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfto5rFniatU1@mid.individual.net...
On 16-January-2016 12:58 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:n7bt7j$18lg$1@gioia.aioe.org...
In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK
disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so
you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince
us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could
possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_
plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I
would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image
files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever you
like.


duh! the photos would have to be unaltered

Impossible to ensure that, stupid.

of course. so if I can't be trusted to post unaltered pics then there's no
point in even doing it is there, stupid

Precisely. Which might just be why I didn’t suggest you should, fuckwit.

Ideally one would want an image of the exact same frame from both
DVDs.
To this end, some DVD players have an option of only pausing on
keyframes, which would make it easier to manually pick the exact same
frame to make an image of.

 

[Rod Speed]

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfu3t7FpvecU3@mid.individual.net...

On 16-January-2016 4:02 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Jeßus wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:10:18 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:25 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:08:04 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.
obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all
Well, I have a lot to do with 'high end audio'.

bullshit. if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me.

ROTFL.

and don't you live out in the bush somewhere?

How in the hell is that relevant?


So does Trevor Wilson
(wherever he's disappeared to lately).

So, you're one of those audiophools that buys into the bullshit
promulgated by snake oil merchants. There's only so much a cable can
do, and if it's well made out of decent quality materials, then that's
as good as it gets.

Feel free to spend two grand or more on an RCA cable if you like, I
doubt you would anyway as I don't even believe your claim that you
know a damned thing about 'high end audio', as you put it.

why would you. you never believe anything I say. worked in the industry
for 30 years fuckwit. even had my own business.

Mmm... '30 years in the industry' and you asked the questions you
asked... LOL.

So spill the details on your business then.
You won't, because you can't. There isnt a hifi store that ever
existed in Australia that somebody on stereo.net doesnt know about. So
let's hear all about that, felix.

What gear do you have, out of interest?

none of your business. I'm tired of ppl on usenet constantly wanting me
to justify everything I say.

Yet you don't ask yourself why that is? Could it be a conspiracy to
pick on just you perhaps?

you don't have to believe it, I don't care.
and although I do have good hifi and audio equipment- including the
brands Redgum, Kef, Richard Allen, Yamaha, Panasonic, Dual, Akai,
Onkyo,
Samsung, Beyonwiyz, Topfield, Pioneer, LG,

So would I be, actually. Panasonic, Samsung, Topfield, LG for example
aren't 'high end' and never have been. Dual, Akai were borderline at
best and only their very best stuff even reaches borderline level.
Onkyo's very top of the range stuff is alright, ditto Pioneer (I much
prefer TAD though - do you know what that is?)

I do have a pair of Kefs, but they get no use as they're not my cup of
tea.

and la pičce de résistance..
three t-boxes and Foxtel, and I'd be surprised if you have even several
of those-

Fuck... I'm gonna have to stop sipping beer when I read your posts.
Tired of having to wipe the monitor down.

and even my PC audio in the study runs thru a
HiFi amp

From the sound card to whatever this 'hifi' amp is, right? Speakers
are?

The PC I'm using right now is connected to a $2000 DAC, which is
currently connected to a fully restored Sansui AU-717 and a pair of
1293SRTL's, the ones with the 12" drivers:
http://adelaidespeakers.com/summoner-floorstanders.html

And yes, very decent interconnects and speaker cables, without going
silly and spending/wasting money on snake oil crap.

I have several vintage integrated and pre/power amplifiers, all
professionally restored/improved. Both solid state and valve. Marantz,
Luxman and many Sansuis from their golden era. And many more to come,
too. It's become a hobby of mine. A few decent turntables too,
including a couple of restored Garrard 401s. I've spent around $16K
this year alone on equipment, CDs and vinyl.


Not far off my annual income.

makes one wonder what he does for a living.

Corse he might just be retired, fuckwit child.

 

[felix]

On 16-January-2016 7:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

the usual abusive stuff..

but everything I have said is fact,

Pigs arse it is.

your worthless opinion does not and will never change the facts

Yes, you do get to live with the FACT that you actually
are too stupid to understand how DIGITAL systems work.

I do know how digital systems work, you obnoxious arsehole. just because
I haven't commented about it doesn't mean I don't know



--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[felix]

On 16-January-2016 7:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfu3qcFpvecU2@mid.individual.net...
On 16-January-2016 3:16 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfto5rFniatU1@mid.individual.net...
On 16-January-2016 12:58 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message
news:n7bt7j$18lg$1@gioia.aioe.org...
In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and
TDK disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen
so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between
the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can
convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could
possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_
plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I
would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video
capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG
image files.

Trouble is its too easy to photoshop one image to 'prove' whatever
you like.


duh! the photos would have to be unaltered

Impossible to ensure that, stupid.

of course. so if I can't be trusted to post unaltered pics then
there's no point in even doing it is there, stupid

Precisely. Which might just be why I didn’t suggest you should, fuckwit.

the point that escapes you shithead, is that I can be trusted. just
because arseholes like you want to believe I can't doesn't make it so.




--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[felix]

On 16-January-2016 7:36 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfu3t7FpvecU3@mid.individual.net...
On 16-January-2016 4:02 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Jeßus wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:10:18 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 16-January-2016 1:25 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:08:04 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid
wrote:

On 15-January-2016 3:56 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Like I said, completely off with the fucking fairys.
obviously then you've never had anything to do with hi end audio
equipment, mr. know-it-all
Well, I have a lot to do with 'high end audio'.

bullshit. if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me.

ROTFL.

and don't you live out in the bush somewhere?

How in the hell is that relevant?


So does Trevor Wilson
(wherever he's disappeared to lately).

So, you're one of those audiophools that buys into the bullshit
promulgated by snake oil merchants. There's only so much a cable can
do, and if it's well made out of decent quality materials, then
that's
as good as it gets.

Feel free to spend two grand or more on an RCA cable if you like, I
doubt you would anyway as I don't even believe your claim that you
know a damned thing about 'high end audio', as you put it.

why would you. you never believe anything I say. worked in the
industry
for 30 years fuckwit. even had my own business.

Mmm... '30 years in the industry' and you asked the questions you
asked... LOL.

So spill the details on your business then.
You won't, because you can't. There isnt a hifi store that ever
existed in Australia that somebody on stereo.net doesnt know about. So
let's hear all about that, felix.

What gear do you have, out of interest?

none of your business. I'm tired of ppl on usenet constantly
wanting me
to justify everything I say.

Yet you don't ask yourself why that is? Could it be a conspiracy to
pick on just you perhaps?

you don't have to believe it, I don't care.
and although I do have good hifi and audio equipment- including the
brands Redgum, Kef, Richard Allen, Yamaha, Panasonic, Dual, Akai,
Onkyo,
Samsung, Beyonwiyz, Topfield, Pioneer, LG,

So would I be, actually. Panasonic, Samsung, Topfield, LG for example
aren't 'high end' and never have been. Dual, Akai were borderline at
best and only their very best stuff even reaches borderline level.
Onkyo's very top of the range stuff is alright, ditto Pioneer (I much
prefer TAD though - do you know what that is?)

I do have a pair of Kefs, but they get no use as they're not my cup of
tea.

and la pičce de résistance..
three t-boxes and Foxtel, and I'd be surprised if you have even
several of those-

Fuck... I'm gonna have to stop sipping beer when I read your posts.
Tired of having to wipe the monitor down.

and even my PC audio in the study runs thru a
HiFi amp

From the sound card to whatever this 'hifi' amp is, right? Speakers
are?

The PC I'm using right now is connected to a $2000 DAC, which is
currently connected to a fully restored Sansui AU-717 and a pair of
1293SRTL's, the ones with the 12" drivers:
http://adelaidespeakers.com/summoner-floorstanders.html

And yes, very decent interconnects and speaker cables, without going
silly and spending/wasting money on snake oil crap.

I have several vintage integrated and pre/power amplifiers, all
professionally restored/improved. Both solid state and valve. Marantz,
Luxman and many Sansuis from their golden era. And many more to come,
too. It's become a hobby of mine. A few decent turntables too,
including a couple of restored Garrard 401s. I've spent around $16K
this year alone on equipment, CDs and vinyl.


Not far off my annual income.

makes one wonder what he does for a living.

Corse he might just be retired, fuckwit child.

well in that case what he did for a living dickhead

--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
"As long as Rod Speed is on usenet, it will never be a nice place"
http://www.siotw.org/

 

[Gordon Levi]

not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

In aus.electronics Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

That would merely result in a discussion about the perceived
difference in your photographs. If there is a difference between the
images displayed from the different brands of DVDs you can convince us
all by telling us how the bits recorded on the LG disks could possibly
differ from the bits recorded on the TDK disks in a way that would
explain your observations. You don't have to be right. _Any_ plausible
explanation will do.

I don't see felix doing it, but if I wanted to prove this point I would
take screenshots of the DVDs playing on a PC, or if the problem
magically only happens with a real DVD player, use a PC video capture
card (or USB stick) to grab still images of the video as PNG image files.

Ideally one would want an image of the exact same frame from both DVDs.
To this end, some DVD players have an option of only pausing on
keyframes, which would make it easier to manually pick the exact same
frame to make an image of.

I did not intend to say that felix could not produce the images. My
claim is that, if he did, the debate would merely shift to an equally
pointless discussion about the photographs. If they were obviously
different then the way he took the photographs would be questioned.
Alternatively, they may appear the same to those of us who do not
share felix's acute sensitivity to differences caused by different CD
blanks or HDMI cables.

I would be content with a theoretical explanation of the difference
between the two images. If he was able to capture the two frames
digitally and show us that the bits were actually different he has won
the argument hands down.