DVD picture doesn't fill the screen

On 14-January-2016 8:00 PM, Robert wrote:
"Trevor" <trevor@home.net> wrote in message
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On 14/01/2016 5:29 PM, Robert wrote:
DVDs are old tech. It's time to move on from them. Use a smart
wifi-enabled TV and you can stream movies from your computer or other
devices.

Or just plug a USB drive into most recent TV's. I haven't burnt a DVD
(or CD) for myself for years. Handy if you want to give to someone
else however.


Why not just give them a USB stick instead of a DVD?

cost?

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"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 14-January-2016 5:28 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 14/01/2016 11:15 AM, felix wrote:
On 11-January-2016 8:05 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 11/01/2016 6:46 PM, felix wrote:

burnt a DVD yesterday and it freezes halfway thru when playing in the
DVD player. so now I need to figure out.. is it the disc causing the
problem, the burner, or the player? (sigh) 'life wasn't meant to be
easy' [ Asus DVD burner, LG media, Panasonic player ]

Panasonic player. Try using DVD+R instead of DVD-R, sometimes helps.

most shops seem to sell on the minus kind. I don't know why

I know their set top DVD writers are fairly fussy about media type,
not sure about their players.

I tried it in a Samsung DVD player, and it wouldn't play at all!

Obviously a faulty disk/burn then.


Try checking the disk for errors in your computer as well.

what's the best way to do that?

I use Nero, but there are other programs to check disk bit error rate.


Never used LG media myself, but if it's like the rest of their stuff
I'd suggest trying a different brand anyway.

I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs produce
different results.

You do realise you are writing digital DATA right? IF the data read is
the same as what was written, there will be NO difference whatsoever
between brands.

well that's the theory,

It isnt a theory, it’s a fact.

> but I can see the difference.

Like hell you can. You wouldn’t be able to pick it in a double blind test.

I always used TDK discs, but then I got some LG discs, and the first time
I used one, I noticed that they produced a sharper but less colourful
image. the colour is also more 'pinky' than with the TDK disks which have
more natural colour.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed fantasys.

What DOES happen is that some brands will produce less errors than others
in particular writer/reader combinations. The effect of those errors
depends on the player, but *rarely* (if ever) what you describe. More
usual just freezing/jerkiness, or pixelation.


anyway, I then burnt another LG of the same movie,
and it played just fine also! in all cases I have used the same burner
and source files. what do you think the problem could have been? just a
faulty disc? or somehow a 'bad burn'? I would have thought that quality
control these days would be so good that it's not possible (or likely)
for some discs in a batch to be bad, and that burners don't produce
'faulty' burns either these days.

You thought wrong then! And what many people don't realise is that a
marginal disk may play OK now, but not in a year or two. :-(

Best tip, always burn disks at a lower speed than what they are rated at.
I find 16x disks give far better burns in my writer when burnt at 8x.
YMMV though. But if you don't know the actual written bit error rate on
the disk, you have NO idea.
 
"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 14-January-2016 5:29 PM, Robert wrote:
DVDs are old tech. It's time to move on from them. Use a smart
wifi-enabled TV and you can stream movies from your computer or other
devices.

I do stream from my PC as well, as I have a LAN connection from my router,
but if there's a movie I particularly want to keep I burn a DVD.

More fool you, they last longer on a hard drive.

> I also burn them to give to other ppl.

More fool you. USB sticks work much better.
 
"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 14-January-2016 8:00 PM, Robert wrote:

"Trevor" <trevor@home.net> wrote in message
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On 14/01/2016 5:29 PM, Robert wrote:
DVDs are old tech. It's time to move on from them. Use a smart
wifi-enabled TV and you can stream movies from your computer or other
devices.

Or just plug a USB drive into most recent TV's. I haven't burnt a DVD
(or CD) for myself for years. Handy if you want to give to someone else
however.


Why not just give them a USB stick instead of a DVD?

cost?

Not when they supply it and keep using the USB stick.
 
On 14/01/2016 8:00 PM, Robert wrote:
"Trevor" <trevor@home.net> wrote in message
news:n77ksp$1odi$1@gioia.aioe.org...
On 14/01/2016 5:29 PM, Robert wrote:
DVDs are old tech. It's time to move on from them. Use a smart
wifi-enabled TV and you can stream movies from your computer or other
devices.

Or just plug a USB drive into most recent TV's. I haven't burnt a DVD
(or CD) for myself for years. Handy if you want to give to someone
else however.


Why not just give them a USB stick instead of a DVD?

DVD blanks still a lot cheaper than USB sticks. Perhaps not for too much
longer though. Actually I doubt USB sticks will ever be <50cents each,
they just keep getting bigger for $5 or more.

Trevor.
 
On 14/01/2016 8:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 5:28 PM, Trevor wrote:
You do realise you are writing digital DATA right? IF the data read is
the same as what was written, there will be NO difference whatsoever
between brands.

well that's the theory, but I can see the difference. I always used TDK
discs, but then I got some LG discs, and the first time I used one, I
noticed that they produced a sharper but less colourful image. the
colour is also more 'pinky' than with the TDK disks which have more
natural colour.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were talking about printable disk labels.

Trevor.
 
On 14-January-2016 10:01 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 14/01/2016 8:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 5:28 PM, Trevor wrote:
You do realise you are writing digital DATA right? IF the data read is
the same as what was written, there will be NO difference whatsoever
between brands.

well that's the theory, but I can see the difference. I always used TDK
discs, but then I got some LG discs, and the first time I used one, I
noticed that they produced a sharper but less colourful image. the
colour is also more 'pinky' than with the TDK disks which have more
natural colour.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were talking about printable disk labels.

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so you
could see for yourself, but I can't


--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
 
On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.

well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the differences
between the two.

--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
 
On 14/01/2016 9:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.


well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the differences
between the two.

No you can't because it's digital.
 
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs produce
different results.

That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.

No, it's true!

At first I used these black SanDisk sticks, but I didn't see a thing!
Then I used white Kingston ones and the picture was perfect, nicely
balanced! For a bit, I tried the red TDK ones, but the picture was too
red-ish for me. So from now on, white Kingston ones it is!

P.S. I also tried to play some videos from the hard-disk, but they were
too silver-ish, which was a bit of a bummer, because hard-disks are much
cheaper than memory-sticks.
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In aus.electronics Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
P.S. I also tried to play some videos from the hard-disk, but they were
too silver-ish

Worse yet with Solid State Drives, with them the video won't move at
all!

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"Trevor" <trevor@home.net> wrote in message
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On 14/01/2016 8:00 PM, Robert wrote:
"Trevor" <trevor@home.net> wrote in message
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On 14/01/2016 5:29 PM, Robert wrote:
DVDs are old tech. It's time to move on from them. Use a smart
wifi-enabled TV and you can stream movies from your computer or other
devices.

Or just plug a USB drive into most recent TV's. I haven't burnt a DVD
(or CD) for myself for years. Handy if you want to give to someone
else however.


Why not just give them a USB stick instead of a DVD?

DVD blanks still a lot cheaper than USB sticks. Perhaps not for too much
longer though. Actually I doubt USB sticks will ever be <50cents each,
they just keep getting bigger for $5 or more.

Woolys has just had a runout sale of 8GB USB sticks for $2. USB2.
 
"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.


well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the differences
between the two.

Bet you can't in a proper double blind trial.
 
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 00:25:44 +0800, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com>
wrote:

On 14/01/2016 9:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.


well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the differences
between the two.



No you can't because it's digital.

felix strikes again... needless to say, if he really can see the
difference, then they've been encoded differently in some way.
 
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 00:43:58 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 14-January-2016 10:01 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 14/01/2016 8:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 5:28 PM, Trevor wrote:
You do realise you are writing digital DATA right? IF the data read is
the same as what was written, there will be NO difference whatsoever
between brands.

well that's the theory, but I can see the difference. I always used TDK
discs, but then I got some LG discs, and the first time I used one, I
noticed that they produced a sharper but less colourful image. the
colour is also more 'pinky' than with the TDK disks which have more
natural colour.

Sorry, I didn't realise you were talking about printable disk labels.

If I could be bothered I would burn the same movie on a LG and TDK disc,
play each and pause at the same spot, and photograph the screen so you
could see for yourself, but I can't

So play it on the PC and take screen shots that way (we all know you
won't). Surely you've been trolling this past month, so many
outrageously ridiculous posts across the aus. groups.
 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:29:07 +0800, "Robert" <robert@no.email> wrote:

DVDs are old tech. It's time to move on from them. Use a smart
wifi-enabled TV and you can stream movies from your computer or other
devices.

Been doing that for 15 years now, albeit not with wifi.
 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 20:46:54 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

On 14-January-2016 5:28 PM, Trevor wrote:
On 14/01/2016 11:15 AM, felix wrote:
On 11-January-2016 8:05 PM, Trevor wrote:

You do realise you are writing digital DATA right? IF the data read is
the same as what was written, there will be NO difference whatsoever
between brands.

well that's the theory, but I can see the difference. I always used TDK
discs, but then I got some LG discs, and the first time I used one, I
noticed that they produced a sharper but less colourful image. the
colour is also more 'pinky' than with the TDK disks which have more
natural colour.

It's digital, not analogue. What you're suggesting is impossible and
can you find anyone else making such a claim (not that I've looked)?
 
On 15-January-2016 3:25 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 14/01/2016 9:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have
better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no
problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs
produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like
saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.


well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the differences
between the two.



No you can't because it's digital.

so I have an over active imagination? I'm not trying to explain it, I'm
just saying how it is. surely discs from different manufactures are not
made exactly the same, so that could explain it. or maybe it's a
function of the electronics processing the signal from the discs
reacting to something inherently different between them? the DVD player
is connected to a home theatre amp that upscales the signal to 1080p.
whatever the reason there is a visible difference

--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
 
"felix" <me@nothere.invalid> wrote in message
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On 15-January-2016 3:25 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 14/01/2016 9:46 PM, felix wrote:
On 14-January-2016 3:33 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have
better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no
problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs
produce
different results.
That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like
saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.


well you can say what you like about it, but I can see the differences
between the two.



No you can't because it's digital.

so I have an over active imagination?

Yep, you're imagining it.

> I'm not trying to explain it, I'm just saying how it is.

No you aren't, you are imagining it.

> surely discs from different manufactures are not made exactly the same,

Just as true of hard drives and USB drives. Doesn’t mean
that a DIGITAL movie will look any different depending
on what its being played from.

In spades with stuff streamed on the net or wifi etc.

> so that could explain it.

Nope.

or maybe it's a function of the electronics processing the signal from the
discs reacting to something inherently different between them?

Not with a DIGITAL system when being played in the same device.

the DVD player is connected to a home theatre amp that upscales the signal
to 1080p.

Still has the same DIGITAL input regardless of the blank used.

And you can prove that any time by doing a
DIGITAL comparison of the two files, bit by bit.

> whatever the reason there is a visible difference

No there isnt.
 
"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
In aus.electronics felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:

I burnt the same movie on a TDK disc, and it played fine. I prefer to
use LG tho since I get a better picture from them. TDK discs have
better
colour saturation, but are less clear than LG (not as sharp). no
problem
to turn the colour up a bit on the tv tho when playing an LG disc. I
don't know that many ppl realize that different brands of discs produce
different results.

That's completely nuts. DVDs use digital MPEG encoded video. Saying the
picture quality is different depending on the DVD-R brand is like saying
the same video file looks different when played from a USB memory stick
compared to from a PC's Hard Disk.

No, it's true!

At first I used these black SanDisk sticks, but I didn't see a thing!
Then I used white Kingston ones and the picture was perfect, nicely
balanced! For a bit, I tried the red TDK ones, but the picture was too
red-ish for me. So from now on, white Kingston ones it is!

P.S. I also tried to play some videos from the hard-disk, but they were
too silver-ish, which was a bit of a bummer, because hard-disks are much
cheaper than memory-sticks.

Someone will beleive this, but not I.

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