Driver to drive?

[SioL]

"John Larkin" <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote in message news:juu7v0lne87urear6t9rrsqpll0tp76mc2@4ax.com...

The United States landed in eighth place on the list. So much for your "By a wide margin".
Although I'd give it a much worse rating, below 15.

It's easy for Norway to have a high standard of living. They have a
homogenous population, lots of technology, and virtually no need for
defense. The US has a hugely diverse population, tens of millions of
foreign-born non-English speaking immigrants, and has spent trillions
defending Europe, Japan, and South Korea. If you were to slice out the
second+generation US-born segment of the population, the living
standard rating would move way up. And the US would be just as dull
and contented and white as Norway.

Yes, if...

You forgot to mention oil, of which they have plenty.

Newsgroups allow people to be arrogant. It's a sport, it ain't real
life.

Yep, but my impression was that this is not limited to newsgroups. Its
usually not direct, but its the "we're the best" attitude you always sense
down there somewhere. We sense this and it bothers us.

Who wants a 150Kg+
girlfriend?
Not me. My cutoff limit is 100 pounds.

Sometimes they infiltrate slim and later start inflating beyond recognition

I've been to the countries mentioned here so I know what I'm talking about.
I bet you've never been outside the US, have you?

Americans travel a lot. But the country is huge and diverse, so
there's lots to see and do here without having to buy plane tickets
and travel overseas. I don't think I know anybody my age who hasn't
traveled a lot of the world. I know a lot of people who have lived in
Europe or Asia or South America for a year or more. Why do I hear
Europeans complaining about all those damned American tourists?

Your friends are mostly engineers so this is a bad example. It has been
in the papers a few years ago that about 90% of Americans never leave
the US. Can't find the source at this point, though.

It is my belief that anyone traveling to at least a couple different places
gets a much better understanding of other cultures and sees things in
a better perspective.

S

 

[Noah Roberts]

Kevin Aylward wrote:

Life can't exist without electrons, so if
your argument is valid, it must also be valid to conclude that we must
respect all electrons. This is plainly daft,

Why?

 

[Rhyanon]

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:Jum3dWB9as8BFwc+@jmwa.demon.co.uk...

I read in sci.electronics.design that Aunty Kreist <Aunty_Kreist@satanic
kittens.net> wrote (in <35fsbgF4n2g8cU1@individual.net&gt about
'Peterson's Death Sentence', on Sat, 22 Jan 2005:

What exactly do you think would happen to all these babies if abortion
were made illegal?

The majority would probably be aborted with a non-sterile knitting-
needle. Or gin and pennyroyal.
--

Which, BTW, is not effective -- pennyroyal, I mean; it generally just makes
a person very very sick, and doesn't abort the fetus.

Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Rhyanon]

Are you at all aware that many British and American politicos and industry
leaders in the early 20th century were active supporters of eugenics?


"keith" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
newsan.2005.01.23.03.52.24.630373@att.bizzzz...

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:00:56 -0500, Aunty Kreist wrote:


"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:Jum3dWB9as8BFwc+@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Aunty Kreist
Aunty_Kreist@satanic
kittens.net> wrote (in <35fsbgF4n2g8cU1@individual.net&gt about
'Peterson's Death Sentence', on Sat, 22 Jan 2005:

What exactly do you think would happen to all these babies if abortion
were made illegal?

The majority would probably be aborted with a non-sterile knitting-
needle. Or gin and pennyroyal.


You're right, and that's just damn scary.

People seem to be under the impression that women think nothing of just
trouncing off and getting an abortion. Well, NO WOMAN *wants* to have
one.
it's not something one wishes to happen. It's a result of desperation
and
much thought. It's not a decision that is easily come to. To put some
sort
of immoral stamp onto a women who is a victim of circumstance, or an
accident, whatever, just isn't logical.

Do you know that in Communist Russia abortions are safe, legal, and easy
to
obtain?

Sure, even *LATE* term. Stalin was famous for his "abortions".

--
Keith


Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Rhyanon]

I love how inbred xstains like yourself have this sheeple - witted need to
pigeonhole genders. Your own libido being a sad delusion, you think
assigning behaviors to one or the other will somehow "straighten" you out.
Heh. But it won't.

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:fsr4v095t12b4gbi045g1abjj3f3intudi@4ax.com...

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:16:06 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

My dick?

---
No willie "down there",
she feels emasculated,
but can't be a girl.

--
John Fields

 

[Rhyanon]

Oh, far from it, dicklick. I am in the silent majority of those who would
rejoice at the downfall of the zealots.

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:vjr4v058p9og52nee9e4bf6rd96cpthmm4@4ax.com...

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:15:50 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

I am saying that you and ALL your fellow zealots should kill one another
off
and leave the planet in more capable hands. Is that dumbed down enough
for
you, idiot?

---
Unhappy she is
because there is no way out
unless she's alone.

--
John Fields

 

[Mark Fergerson]

James Knott wrote:

Aunty Kreist wrote:

Does Scientology count as a religion, or a cult?

Is there a difference?

Sure; "We" belong to a Religion, "They" are a cult.

;&gt

Mark L. Fergerson

 

[Rhyanon]

Nah -- just wishful pukings from someone who hasn't the balls to flame
effectively, nor the fortitude to admit defeat and slink away.

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:52o5v0ljr0qlf5kcu142cdgjq06htbbcqu@4ax.com...

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:34:20 -0500, "Aunty Kreist"
Aunty_Kreist@satanickittens.net> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:vjr4v058p9og52nee9e4bf6rd96cpthmm4@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:15:50 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com
wrote:

I am saying that you and ALL your fellow zealots should kill one
another
off
and leave the planet in more capable hands. Is that dumbed down enough
for
you, idiot?

---
Unhappy she is
because there is no way out
unless she's alone.

--
John Fields

Ok, Yoda.
Spare us the prose. >_

---
Haiku, grasshopper!-)

--
John Fields

 

[Brian]

"John Larkin" <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote in
message news:edu7v0ds5rsn88ld69uhea9skfgb1d67t1@4ax.com...

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:29:58 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:



That's a stretch! Do you actually think Bloggs is capable of
reproduction?

Well, there's nothing like having a couple of kids to teach a guy
humility. Draw your own conclusions.

John

Funny you say that. My 6 year old daughter works with computers, can program

VCR's etc. At 6, I think I was eating buggers.

 

[Brian]

"John Larkin" <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote in
message news:6is5v09001nfdd9fv20rqlik6no7dh55hi@4ax.com...

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:27:29 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:04:21 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



That's silly. The world's most repressive regimes have been Nazi
Germany, the USSR, China, Cambodia, and North Korea, places that kill
you if they suspect that you're *thinking* wrong.

Right- your remark is out of context- like you better hope Bush is not
thinking about regime change in the USSR or China...


Of course he is. And it will happen. It is happening. My Tektronix
TDS2012's are all made in China.

John


Wrong answer- by doing business with these people, he is strengthening
their economic power and their government. Why not sanctions as with
Iran? Why don't we convert them to freedom by increasing trade beyond
all bounds?

Well, they sure aren't going to nuke us as long as the friends and
family of the CCCP are getting rich selling us stuff.

John

Hey John,

Are you REALLY trying to discuss World Economics to him? Your cat would
probably understand better.

 

[Brian]

"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:41F3B8DF.6060501@nospam.com...

Brian wrote:
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:41F2DBF0.4070803@nospam.com...


John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 15:54:00 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



John Larkin wrote:



Did you listen to, or even better read, his Inaugural address?

No- I cannot stand listening to that drawling brainless garbage for
more than a millisecond.



Really, you should read it. This guy is really in sync with history.

OK, I understand that he has faith in the perfectibility of humankind,
and you don't. What I don't understand is why you, and so many other
people, absolutely hate him for it. It's like you *want* the world to
remain mired in hate and oppression, that you really enjoy it that
way. Do you?


"History has an ebb and flow of justice, but history also has a
visible direction, set by liberty and the Author of liberty."
Damn, that's a zinger.

John


Here is a more scholarly critique of that pile evangelical horse manure
you call a "zinger":

Published on Friday, January 21, 2005 by CommonDreams.org
The Rhetoric of Bush's Inaugural Address versus the Reality of Bush
Policy
by Stephen Zunes

President Bush’s second inaugural address has received widespread
praise for its recognition of the imperative of advancing human freedom
worldwide, not just for its own sake, but for America’s own national
interest.

Unfortunately, this ignores the fact that the United States has long
been the number one military, diplomatic, and economic backer of the
world’s most repressive regimes,


That's silly. The world's most repressive regimes have been Nazi
Germany, the USSR, China, Cambodia, and North Korea, places that kill
you if they suspect that you're *thinking* wrong.

Right- your remark is out of context- like you better hope Bush is not
thinking about regime change in the USSR or China...


Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates are free and open
societies compared to the above.

ditto


The ultimate measure of freedom is: are you allowed to leave?

That's a helluva bottom line.


Bloggy,
Um, REAGAN changed the regime in the old USSR and brought it down... only
ones more responsible was their own leadership and misguided beliefs
similar to your own.

I know you're too dumb to have a sense of cumulative effect, and Russia
maintains enough of a nuclear arsenal to pulverize the US into the stone
age- so what are you really talking about...

So, now Russia is going to pulverize us too? Man, glad I don't live in your

world of fear and hate. How do you type while hiding under your bed?

 

[Winfield Hill]

Noah Roberts wrote...

Kevin Aylward wrote:
Life can't exist without electrons, so if your argument is
valid, it must also be valid to conclude that we must respect
all electrons. This is plainly daft,

Why?

Why? I have as little respect for electrons as possible, and
mistreat them in all kinds of ways, for both work and pleasure.


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Brian]

"John Larkin" <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote in
message news:juu7v0lne87urear6t9rrsqpll0tp76mc2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:17:56 +0100, "SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net
wrote:

"Brian" <brian@w3gate.com> wrote in message
news:SsidnbKv_4ncf2_cRVn-tw@centurytel.net...

Its hard to argue with the jealous. Yeah, we go to Europe for vacations.
Because it is quaint. Rustic perhaps. Old World. But the
US is, by a huge margin, the best country in the world. As the gap
widens, the outsiders and like-thinkers whine more? Why? Simply
because they BELIEVE they are entitled to some of the wealth created by
us.

What they are entitled to is to create their own wealth. What we
should do is help them.

By the way, the best place to live in the world is Norway. And US is not
even
second or third.

Quote:
For the fourth year in a row,
the United Nations has ranked Norway as having the highest standard of
living in the
world. Sweden, Australia and Canada are next in line, while the United
States is further
down the scale.
End Quote.

The United States landed in eighth place on the list. So much for your "By
a wide margin".
Although I'd give it a much worse rating, below 15.

It's easy for Norway to have a high standard of living. They have a
homogenous population, lots of technology, and virtually no need for
defense. The US has a hugely diverse population, tens of millions of
foreign-born non-English speaking immigrants, and has spent trillions
defending Europe, Japan, and South Korea. If you were to slice out the
second+generation US-born segment of the population, the living
standard rating would move way up. And the US would be just as dull
and contented and white as Norway.


There are many countries I'd pick
rather than the US, countries with higher levels of Democracy with people
who are a lot
less arogant, are better educated overall and are a lot slimmer.

Newsgroups allow people to be arrogant. It's a sport, it ain't real
life.

Who wants a 150Kg+
girlfriend?


Not me. My cutoff limit is 100 pounds.

I've been to the countries mentioned here so I know what I'm talking
about.
I bet you've never been outside the US, have you?

Americans travel a lot. But the country is huge and diverse, so
there's lots to see and do here without having to buy plane tickets
and travel overseas. I don't think I know anybody my age who hasn't
traveled a lot of the world. I know a lot of people who have lived in
Europe or Asia or South America for a year or more. Why do I hear
Europeans complaining about all those damned American tourists?


John

100 pounds?!?!?!? I'd end up killing someone that size.

I'm not big on scrawny gals. I like a bit more curve to my women. And since
I am tall, I like taller women. Give me a 6 foot, 165 pound Amazon woman any
day!

 

[Rhyanon]

Gosh, are you drunk? have you been drinking?

"keith" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
newsan.2005.01.22.16.16.31.214169@att.bizzzz...

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:50:06 -0600, Rhyanon wrote:

She shoulda wiped you off.


Now there a rapier wit. ...from a witless top-poster.

--
Keith

 

[richard mullens]

John Larkin wrote:

The ultimate measure of freedom is: are you allowed to leave?

And are you allowed to go to Cuba - or is it a criminal offence ?

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 15:28:59 -0600, "Rhyanon" <pissoff@uberbitch.com>
wrote:

I love how inbred xstains like yourself have this sheeple - witted need to
pigeonhole genders. Your own libido being a sad delusion, you think
assigning behaviors to one or the other will somehow "straighten" you out.
Heh. But it won't.

---
"Pigeonhole"? Interesting choice of word considering that you have no
compunctions about doing the same thing to points of view which differ
from yours. But of course _your_ double standards are so much higher
than most that they only fly at half-mast _some_ of the time. As for
the libido part, I have no doubt that coming across you in a wet dream
would dry things up pretty quick!

--
John Fields

 

[Noah Roberts]

Winfield Hill wrote:

Noah Roberts wrote...

Kevin Aylward wrote:

Life can't exist without electrons, so if your argument is
valid, it must also be valid to conclude that we must respect
all electrons. This is plainly daft,

Why?


Why? I have as little respect for electrons as possible, and
mistreat them in all kinds of ways, for both work and pleasure.

That is not a why.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill <hill_a@t_rowland-
dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote (in <ct162t014vp@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Peterson's Death Sentence', on Sun, 23 Jan 2005:

Noah Roberts wrote...

Kevin Aylward wrote:
Life can't exist without electrons, so if your argument is
valid, it must also be valid to conclude that we must respect
all electrons. This is plainly daft,

Why?

Why? I have as little respect for electrons as possible, and
mistreat them in all kinds of ways, for both work and pleasure.


I don't think you CAN mistreat an electron. You would need to present

some damaged or worn-out ones to convince me. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk