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On Saturday, 16 March 2019 13:22:55 UTC, Michael Kellett wrote:
The chance of that ever working again is probably negative
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The chance of that ever working again is probably negative
NT
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John Larkin
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:35:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code
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lunatic fringe electronics
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code
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On Monday, 18 March 2019 00:28:35 UTC, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Just realised I mistyped - should be 1200 dpi
NT
Just realised I mistyped - should be 1200 dpi
NT
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On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 7:19:55 AM UTC-5, Robert Baer wrote:
Actually the eBay warranty is pretty good. As long as you do what you need to do within the time periods, getting your money back is pretty much assured. If that fails disputing via the credit card is still an option. The only time I've not gotten satisfaction is when I miss the time limits.
In particular, a laptop I bought which had an over heating problem and they initially offer a refund or something off the purchase price. I wanted to try opening the machine to see if I needed but never did. By the time I asked for the $60 refund they no longer replied and a few days later the eBay 60 days were up. So I contacted the credit card company and ended up getting ALL my money back.
That said, I would not buy a device described this way, not tested and not warrantied. Move on to another purchase. There's always another one out there on eBay even if you need to wait a few days.
Rick C.
Actually the eBay warranty is pretty good. As long as you do what you need to do within the time periods, getting your money back is pretty much assured. If that fails disputing via the credit card is still an option. The only time I've not gotten satisfaction is when I miss the time limits.
In particular, a laptop I bought which had an over heating problem and they initially offer a refund or something off the purchase price. I wanted to try opening the machine to see if I needed but never did. By the time I asked for the $60 refund they no longer replied and a few days later the eBay 60 days were up. So I contacted the credit card company and ended up getting ALL my money back.
That said, I would not buy a device described this way, not tested and not warrantied. Move on to another purchase. There's always another one out there on eBay even if you need to wait a few days.
Rick C.
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Robert Baer
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tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
and therefore to be rejected maligned, replaced?
My Canon BJC-4100 has given maybe 10 years of service and obviously
is used.
It mechanically broke down and is too expensive to be fixed.
It uses ink cartridges that (new) are as expensive as those for the
modern inkjets.
However, the older technology cartridges are easily refillable, and
do not have reporting chips to interfere with simple replace-and-go.
Also, off-brand (and older technology) cartridges last many years.
I also have a Canon Pixma MP280 which cost an outrageous $10.00; a
"multi function" beast.
The only almost decent function is printing.
The "almost" is due to the BS fact of the "warning: Prevent printer
abrasion is set" message every time one wants to print.
The pain-in-the-neck function is the scan (copy part slightly better)
function.
It is a lot like Win7,in that it likes to hide where the images go -
but worse in that it seems impossible to move/copy them.
And the format is not standard or nominally recognizable; it was so
bad that i gave up and do not use the scan function at all.
Have a Mustek USB-1200 scanner that works with ZERO hassle in Win2K
thru WinXP and works faster.
"More features" does not necessarily mean "more useful"; the Pixma
proves that "more features" will likely mean "you cannot use the extra
stuff in an easy and hassle-free manner" and may mean "you have to go
thru more hassle to do standard desirable stuff".
It is bad enough to have a printer tied to the USB port - one cannot
do a COPY <file> LPT1:,it is worse with WiFi fighting neighbor stronger
signal interference, and cell phone interference too.
Dammit, i want my Model T, it can be fixed using the tools that came
with it; i do not need a PHD, a fancy lab and a raft of techs spanning
5-6 technologies to fix the new junk that falls apart when i lean on the
fender.
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"used printer" -- buy a new printer and the next day it is used ..
and therefore to be rejected maligned, replaced?
My Canon BJC-4100 has given maybe 10 years of service and obviously
is used.
It mechanically broke down and is too expensive to be fixed.
It uses ink cartridges that (new) are as expensive as those for the
modern inkjets.
However, the older technology cartridges are easily refillable, and
do not have reporting chips to interfere with simple replace-and-go.
Also, off-brand (and older technology) cartridges last many years.
I also have a Canon Pixma MP280 which cost an outrageous $10.00; a
"multi function" beast.
The only almost decent function is printing.
The "almost" is due to the BS fact of the "warning: Prevent printer
abrasion is set" message every time one wants to print.
The pain-in-the-neck function is the scan (copy part slightly better)
function.
It is a lot like Win7,in that it likes to hide where the images go -
but worse in that it seems impossible to move/copy them.
And the format is not standard or nominally recognizable; it was so
bad that i gave up and do not use the scan function at all.
Have a Mustek USB-1200 scanner that works with ZERO hassle in Win2K
thru WinXP and works faster.
"More features" does not necessarily mean "more useful"; the Pixma
proves that "more features" will likely mean "you cannot use the extra
stuff in an easy and hassle-free manner" and may mean "you have to go
thru more hassle to do standard desirable stuff".
It is bad enough to have a printer tied to the USB port - one cannot
do a COPY <file> LPT1:,it is worse with WiFi fighting neighbor stronger
signal interference, and cell phone interference too.
Dammit, i want my Model T, it can be fixed using the tools that came
with it; i do not need a PHD, a fancy lab and a raft of techs spanning
5-6 technologies to fix the new junk that falls apart when i lean on the
fender.
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Cursitor Doom wrote:
could be used for tracing counterfeiters, etc.
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That hidden code was/is there to uniquely identify the printer, and
could be used for tracing counterfeiters, etc.
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tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
the old, original Rex Rotary offset duplicator.
With extra inking rollers, one can switch colors in minutes to
produce a colorful fanzine.
And with a little care, one can easily get a few thousand copies per
stencil.
Organize stencils for titles, cartoons-in-middle of text as you see fit.
A little care, and one can produce a page with quality close to
professional printing.
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Well, if all one cares about is PRINTING, then make a stencil and use
the old, original Rex Rotary offset duplicator.
With extra inking rollers, one can switch colors in minutes to
produce a colorful fanzine.
And with a little care, one can easily get a few thousand copies per
stencil.
Organize stencils for titles, cartoons-in-middle of text as you see fit.
A little care, and one can produce a page with quality close to
professional printing.
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tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
wheel.
A bit tricky,keep wheel not-too-wet and not dry.
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For some dot-matrix printers, there was an add-on that used an inked
wheel.
A bit tricky,keep wheel not-too-wet and not dry.
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tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
for cross-reference (cartridges VS printers), such cross-reference inf
was incomplete; worse now.
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Yea..even 5 years ago,when there was some sites that could be usedOn Friday, 8 March 2019 15:18:49 UTC, VanguardLH wrote:
Robert Baer wrote:
I have a number of ink cartridges for the BC 4100; cartridges for the
newer printers are as expensive or more and AFAIK cannot be refilled.
Furthermore,one cannot do a DOS print (you know, COPY TextFile.TXT
LPT1
Oh,yes..a number of those fancy printers do not work if the color
cartridge is missing or empty.
If you don't want to pay for shipping, you're stuck looking for a local
seller -- and it highly unlikely anyone in Usenet will be within 30
miles of your location and with a working Canon BJC 4xxx printer and who
will guarantee its functionality.
If online local sales/auction sites don't pan out, you might have
salvage or refurbish or recycling centers for electronics or computers
that might have the old printer. I've found swap meets are mostly for
foraging for old junk that you might utilize but not if you are looking
for something specific. Even if you don't find what you want on the
online auction sites, some let you advertise as "wanted", like
Craigslist; i.e., you post as a buyer trying to find a seller. I've
never posted "wanted" ads at Craigslist, so I have no clue as to how
successful those are.
I doubt the Canon cartridges are usable in only 1 or 2 models of their
printers. Have you done the reverse by looking up the cartridges to see
in which models they fit? After finding the model number of the
cartridges for the BCJ-4100, look up the cartridge models to see in what
printers they fit. For example, in a Google search on "canon bjc-4100
cartridge", I found:
https://www.4inkjets.com/Canon-BJC-4100-printer-ink-cartridges-toner
(never bought from there, just the 1st hit in the search)
That listed the Canon BCI121Bk black cartridge. I then clicked on the
link to the cartridge which took me to:
https://www.4inkjets.com/BCI21B-Canon-Ink-Cartridge-Black-Compatible
In their web page for that product, they have a slew (30) of compatible
printers listed. I never keep a large inventory of spare inkjet
cartridges because they go bad over time, and I replace them at about
1-year intervals because I do so little printing. I only keep 1 set
(black + color) on hand for immediate swapping when the current set gets
empty. I don't know how many is "a number"; however, looks like you can
use them in more than just the BJC-4100 printer.
Back when we had Canon inkjets they made cartridges under other numbers for other models that would also fit the printers we had. But they didn't list them as fitting them
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for cross-reference (cartridges VS printers), such cross-reference inf
was incomplete; worse now.
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On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 05:23:41 UTC, Spare Change wrote:
model is at 21V +/- 4%. The de-rating graph indicates that the maximum
load is reduced by 20% at 21V.
So it is very unlikely that it will be useful at 12V, even if modified
to bypass the under-voltage shutdown.
John
The data sheet states that the under-voltage shutdown for the 24V
model is at 21V +/- 4%. The de-rating graph indicates that the maximum
load is reduced by 20% at 21V.
So it is very unlikely that it will be useful at 12V, even if modified
to bypass the under-voltage shutdown.
John
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On Monday, 18 March 2019 18:42:01 UTC, Robert Baer wrote:
Feature-overloaded junk will keep being made & sold as long as there are people that are drawn to buy it. That's their concern, but when it takes over the whole market it becomes my concern.
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Feature-overloaded junk will keep being made & sold as long as there are people that are drawn to buy it. That's their concern, but when it takes over the whole market it becomes my concern.
NT
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On Monday, 18 March 2019 19:06:26 UTC, Robert Baer wrote:
I never investigated those due to their usually abysmal quality. How do you get them to print decently?
NT
I never investigated those due to their usually abysmal quality. How do you get them to print decently?
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Martin Brown
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On 19/03/2019 13:08, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
With extreme difficulty and a lot of annual maintenance. It also helps
to have a tame touch typist who never makes any mistakes for cutting
stencils. We used to do our annual astronomy magazine that way.
As for the dreaded aniline purple Roneo spirit duplicator they were the
invention of the devil. The prints are not light stable either.
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With extreme difficulty and a lot of annual maintenance. It also helps
to have a tame touch typist who never makes any mistakes for cutting
stencils. We used to do our annual astronomy magazine that way.
As for the dreaded aniline purple Roneo spirit duplicator they were the
invention of the devil. The prints are not light stable either.
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Michael Kellett
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On 18/03/2019 01:14, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
Now there's a problem for you.
A zero(%) chance means never - but what is a -50% chance ?
A 0.1% chance is not often, but what about -0.1% ?
And if it's only probably negative ........
MK
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Now there's a problem for you.
A zero(%) chance means never - but what is a -50% chance ?
A 0.1% chance is not often, but what about -0.1% ?
And if it's only probably negative ........
MK
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On 19/03/2019 14:05, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
It is 1970's technology. No-one would use it today.
It was by far the most commonly used.
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It is 1970's technology. No-one would use it today.
It was by far the most commonly used.
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On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:13:38 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
I guess you're not going to tell me.
Violet isn't light stable, other colours are relatively good.
NT
I guess you're not going to tell me.
Violet isn't light stable, other colours are relatively good.
NT
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tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote in
news:4a2658d3-40f1-4191-ab73-8435f8926a8b@googlegroups.com:
Pro office lasers are not feature ridled or feature driven. They are
output driven. So we see large paper drawers and collation assemblies,
etc. as "features".
news:4a2658d3-40f1-4191-ab73-8435f8926a8b@googlegroups.com:
Pro office lasers are not feature ridled or feature driven. They are
output driven. So we see large paper drawers and collation assemblies,
etc. as "features".
Guest
On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:13:55 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
Loads of people still use such stuff. We might even try it if it could give fair print quality.
NT
Loads of people still use such stuff. We might even try it if it could give fair print quality.
NT
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Dave Platt
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In article <q6qptt$v12$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I'm not sure I agree. The devil has a reputation for being both
subtle and sneaky. Spirit duplicators are neither - you can smell
them in use from six blocks away, upwind.
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I'm not sure I agree. The devil has a reputation for being both
subtle and sneaky. Spirit duplicators are neither - you can smell
them in use from six blocks away, upwind.
J
Jeff Liebermann
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 00:35:52 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
Incidentally, that's why most inkjet printers will refuse to print
anything with only the black ink cartridge installed. The yellow ink
cartridge has to be installed in order to print the MIC dots.
I haven't bothered doing this, but it might be interesting to put some
dark colored ink in a yellow ink cartridge to make the dots more
visible. Or, use a blue LED reading light:
<http://seeingyellow.com>
At 0.1mm diameter and 1mm spacing, the dots are really difficult to
see without magnification and color filtering.
Light reading:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code>
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:
Incidentally, that's why most inkjet printers will refuse to print
anything with only the black ink cartridge installed. The yellow ink
cartridge has to be installed in order to print the MIC dots.
I haven't bothered doing this, but it might be interesting to put some
dark colored ink in a yellow ink cartridge to make the dots more
visible. Or, use a blue LED reading light:
<http://seeingyellow.com>
At 0.1mm diameter and 1mm spacing, the dots are really difficult to
see without magnification and color filtering.
Light reading:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code>
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558