Driver to drive?

On 9/6/2016 3:15 PM, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 2:39:13 PM UTC-4, JW wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bulk-Lot-180-pallets-mixed-Server-Pc-Printers-Phone-Home-Electronics-E-Waste-/112122190565?hash=item1a1b00dae5:g:84YAAOSwFe5Xx66f

Think again.
This guy better re-think his pricing strategy...

That's a riot... so if I put all my E-waste on a pallet I can sell it?
He wants $2.5 Million! ~$10k/pallet

Yeah, but that's Australian dollars... ;)

--

Rick C
 
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 02:14:58 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 02:10:30 UTC+1, Don Y wrote:

I was at a local auction many years ago and was interested in one
particular "lot". But, buried in that lot was a ~20 lb container of
mercury: "Where the hell am I going to dispose of *that*?"

Saleable surely, to a vetted buyer.

Unvetted ones would pay even more, given it's a simple matter to make an
extremely powerful explosive from it!
 
Unvetted ones would pay even more, given it's a simple matter to make an
extremely powerful explosive from it!

But not so simple to survive handling the resulting product in any quantity. Fulminate of mercury is touchy stuff, almost in the nitrogen triiodide class.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 14:23:01 -0700, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Unvetted ones would pay even more, given it's a simple matter to make an
extremely powerful explosive from it!

But not so simple to survive handling the resulting product in any
quantity. Fulminate of mercury is touchy stuff, almost in the nitrogen
triiodide class.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

That's why it's used as the (percussion-sensitive) primer in shells, Phil.
 
On 09/07/2016 07:12 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 14:23:01 -0700, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Unvetted ones would pay even more, given it's a simple matter to make an
extremely powerful explosive from it!

But not so simple to survive handling the resulting product in any
quantity. Fulminate of mercury is touchy stuff, almost in the nitrogen
triiodide class.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

That's why it's used as the (percussion-sensitive) primer in shells, Phil.

Used to be. Not since WW2 at least, iirc.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 19:55:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:

> Used to be. Not since WW2 at least, iirc.

Well maybe I'm a bit out of date on the subject. We used to make that
stuff, soak it up in blotting paper, let it dry out, then fire it with
pea-shooters at the heads of 10yr old girls we fancied. I should say I
was only 10 myself at the time and this was over 50 years ago.
I'm not aware any of the girls' hearing was permanently damaged by this
unusual form of courtship.
 
Used to be.  Not since WW2 at least, iirc.

Well maybe I'm a bit out of date on the subject. We used to make that
stuff, soak it up in blotting paper, let it dry out, then fire it with
pea-shooters at the heads of 10yr old girls we fancied. I should say I
was only 10 myself at the time and this was over 50 years ago.
I'm not aware any of the girls' hearing was permanently damaged by this
unusual form of courtship.

;)

Sure it wasn't nitrogen tri-iodide? All you need for that is ammonia and iodine drops.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
Den torsdag den 8. september 2016 kl. 18.30.59 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
Used to be.  Not since WW2 at least, iirc.

Well maybe I'm a bit out of date on the subject. We used to make that
stuff, soak it up in blotting paper, let it dry out, then fire it with
pea-shooters at the heads of 10yr old girls we fancied. I should say I
was only 10 myself at the time and this was over 50 years ago.
I'm not aware any of the girls' hearing was permanently damaged by this
unusual form of courtship.

;)

Sure it wasn't nitrogen tri-iodide? All you need for that is ammonia and iodine drops.

https://youtu.be/lZT7VHVSlTo
 
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:30:56 -0700 (PDT), Phil Hobbs
<pcdhobbs@gmail.com> wrote:

Used to be.  Not since WW2 at least, iirc.

Well maybe I'm a bit out of date on the subject. We used to make that
stuff, soak it up in blotting paper, let it dry out, then fire it with
pea-shooters at the heads of 10yr old girls we fancied. I should say I
was only 10 myself at the time and this was over 50 years ago.
I'm not aware any of the girls' hearing was permanently damaged by this
unusual form of courtship.

;)

Sure it wasn't nitrogen tri-iodide? All you need for that is ammonia and iodine drops.

We used to make that stuff by the pound. Years later, my mother's
best friend married the owner of the drug store we bought the ammonia
water from. He couldn't figure out what we were doing with gallons of
28% ammonia water. My mother asked and wished she had remained
ignorant. ;-)
 
On Friday, 9 September 2016 20:30:10 UTC+1, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2

Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10 seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to disable this
"feature".

a bigger cap should make it a minute


NT
 
On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 12:30:10 PM UTC-7, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2

Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10 seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to disable this
"feature".

I found a bookshelf amp with speakers that a neighbor was giving away for free. The built-in tape player makes an annoying noise on startup but it makes an amazing amp for the computer.

Maybe listen to music without quiet spots? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP0Ej28JeCs

Michael
 
On 2016-09-09 15:05, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 9 September 2016 20:30:10 UTC+1, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2

Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10 seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to disable this
"feature".

a bigger cap should make it a minute

Probably a timing given by a micro processor. Then the only way to
defeat it is to inject a periodical signal that is above the audio range
but still recognizeable by the detector. Got to watch out that it
doesn't annoy animals though as they can often hear much higher
frequencies than we do.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
 
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:35:46 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 15:05, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 9 September 2016 20:30:10 UTC+1, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2

Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers on
the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10
seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of audio
cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his
pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to disable
this
"feature".

a bigger cap should make it a minute


Probably a timing given by a micro processor. Then the only way to
defeat it is to inject a periodical signal that is above the audio range
but still recognizeable by the detector. Got to watch out that it
doesn't annoy animals though as they can often hear much higher
frequencies than we do.

A simple picaxe monitoring the input and putting out a low level burst of
noise at 9 seconds would work - easy to knock up too. Could also be done
with some 555's (missing pulse detector) plus glue
 
And these same incompetent fucks are designing the electronics in new cars.

Anyone got a 1967 Chevy for sale ?
 
On 9/10/2016 5:29 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
> And these same incompetent fucks are designing the electronics in new cars.

Blame the PHB's who *select* the vendors to design the electronics!
It seems like a perfect example of a PHB not understanding the technology
yet being "responsible" for making the decisions regarding its use!

Anyone got a 1967 Chevy for sale ?
 
On 2016-09-09 17:25, David Eather wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:35:46 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 15:05, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 9 September 2016 20:30:10 UTC+1, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2


Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers
on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10
seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of
audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his
pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to
disable this
"feature".

a bigger cap should make it a minute


Probably a timing given by a micro processor. Then the only way to
defeat it is to inject a periodical signal that is above the audio
range but still recognizeable by the detector. Got to watch out that
it doesn't annoy animals though as they can often hear much higher
frequencies than we do.


A simple picaxe monitoring the input and putting out a low level burst
of noise at 9 seconds would work - easy to knock up too. Could also be
done with some 555's (missing pulse detector) plus glue

But that's too pedestrian and not sporty enough :)

A real manly solution would be a transistor stage in the shape of a
regenerative receiver, except that the stage is tuned to some really
high audio frequency instead of RF and is squegging into brief
oscillation bursts.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
 
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 04:45:57 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 17:25, David Eather wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:35:46 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 15:05, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 9 September 2016 20:30:10 UTC+1, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2


Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers
on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10
seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of
audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his
pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to
disable this
"feature".

a bigger cap should make it a minute


Probably a timing given by a micro processor. Then the only way to
defeat it is to inject a periodical signal that is above the audio
range but still recognizeable by the detector. Got to watch out that
it doesn't annoy animals though as they can often hear much higher
frequencies than we do.


A simple picaxe monitoring the input and putting out a low level burst
of noise at 9 seconds would work - easy to knock up too. Could also be
done with some 555's (missing pulse detector) plus glue


But that's too pedestrian and not sporty enough :)

A real manly solution would be a transistor stage in the shape of a
regenerative receiver, except that the stage is tuned to some really
high audio frequency instead of RF and is squegging into brief
oscillation bursts.

Yep - in my older age I've stopped being sporty - ever seen a 100kg man
run without a shirt (don't try to visualize - it's not good). My concern
with near/low ultrasonics were possible filters, a/d acquisition times and
driving the nearest dog/teenager mad. Hum..., put that way.... there could
be advantages.
 
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 1:49:31 PM UTC-4, JW wrote:
On Fri, 09 Sep 2016 15:30:05 -0400 JW <none@dev.null> wrote in Message id:
fs26tb9arnl6jp2cam08qra6urtj1mjsoc@4ax.com>:

Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2

Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10 seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to disable this
"feature".


Decided winter is still too far away to live with this idiotic flaw.
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/the-dumbest-design-flaw-i've-seen-in-a-while/msg1023011/#msg1023011
Fixed.

That's not bad. Did you find out how the micro was detecting sound?
 
On 2016-09-10 18:37, David Eather wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 04:45:57 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 17:25, David Eather wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:35:46 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 15:05, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 9 September 2016 20:30:10 UTC+1, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2



Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers
on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10
seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of
audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his
pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to
disable this
"feature".

a bigger cap should make it a minute


Probably a timing given by a micro processor. Then the only way to
defeat it is to inject a periodical signal that is above the audio
range but still recognizeable by the detector. Got to watch out that
it doesn't annoy animals though as they can often hear much higher
frequencies than we do.


A simple picaxe monitoring the input and putting out a low level burst
of noise at 9 seconds would work - easy to knock up too. Could also be
done with some 555's (missing pulse detector) plus glue


But that's too pedestrian and not sporty enough :)

A real manly solution would be a transistor stage in the shape of a
regenerative receiver, except that the stage is tuned to some really
high audio frequency instead of RF and is squegging into brief
oscillation bursts.


Yep - in my older age I've stopped being sporty -

Don't stop. Becoming sedentary is a fast and at some point irreversible
path into a nursing home. Now that I am gradually approaching retirement
age I have upped my game when it comes to mileage on the mountain bike
and road bike. Once I can ratchet down to 3days/week or less I'll start
doing 80-100 milers, all day rides.


... ever seen a 100kg man
run without a shirt (don't try to visualize - it's not good)....

I regularly see such a guy on bike trips east. It is not a pretty sight.


... My concern
with near/low ultrasonics were possible filters, a/d acquisition times
and driving the nearest dog/teenager mad. Hum..., put that way.... there
could be advantages.

Probably only a tiny amplitude is needed here and the speaker will have
very poor efficiency so not much gets through the chain. Also, one might
be able to simply use a continuously running oscillator which has the
least chance of disturbance.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
 
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 00:31:34 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
wrote:

On 2016-09-10 18:37, David Eather wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 04:45:57 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 17:25, David Eather wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:35:46 +1000, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2016-09-09 15:05, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, 9 September 2016 20:30:10 UTC+1, JW wrote:
Bought this piece of junk at a garage sale.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MIP108-I-Station-Speakers-Docking-Station-White/dp/B000G0G6K2



Sounds OK enough for what it is. Not using it with an iphone, I
just
wanted something better sounding than my laptops built in speakers
on the
front porch for the summer.

The problem: If the thing doesn't detect any sound for about 10
seconds,
it goes into power management mode and cuts out the amp. If you're
listening to music that has quiet sections you'll get chunks of
audio cut
out of the music while the amp turns back on!

Good grief, the idiot engineer who designed this! I hope he got his
pink
slip.

Maybe this winter I'll open it up and see if there's a way to
disable this
"feature".

a bigger cap should make it a minute


Probably a timing given by a micro processor. Then the only way to
defeat it is to inject a periodical signal that is above the audio
range but still recognizeable by the detector. Got to watch out that
it doesn't annoy animals though as they can often hear much higher
frequencies than we do.


A simple picaxe monitoring the input and putting out a low level burst
of noise at 9 seconds would work - easy to knock up too. Could also be
done with some 555's (missing pulse detector) plus glue


But that's too pedestrian and not sporty enough :)

A real manly solution would be a transistor stage in the shape of a
regenerative receiver, except that the stage is tuned to some really
high audio frequency instead of RF and is squegging into brief
oscillation bursts.


Yep - in my older age I've stopped being sporty -


Don't stop. Becoming sedentary is a fast and at some point irreversible
path into a nursing home.

Not becoming sedentary is not a choice I can make. I do what I can but it
is a long way from bench pressing more than my body weight and squatting
almost double - plus fun with karate. I loved it. But I mustn't dwell or
the 'black dog' will come and bite me.

Now that I am gradually approaching retirement
age I have upped my game when it comes to mileage on the mountain bike
and road bike. Once I can ratchet down to 3days/week or less I'll start
doing 80-100 milers, all day rides.


... ever seen a 100kg man
run without a shirt (don't try to visualize - it's not good)....


I regularly see such a guy on bike trips east. It is not a pretty sight.

It's strangely hypnotic.
Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
Mulder and Scully (Simpsons quote)

... My concern
with near/low ultrasonics were possible filters, a/d acquisition times
and driving the nearest dog/teenager mad. Hum..., put that way.... there
could be advantages.


Probably only a tiny amplitude is needed here and the speaker will have
very poor efficiency so not much gets through the chain. Also, one might
be able to simply use a continuously running oscillator which has the
least chance of disturbance.

Just musing - a random noise source (pink or brown) might work well. If
the environment is loud enough it might even pass totally unnoticed.
 

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