Driver to drive?

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:45:39 PM UTC-4, George Herold wrote:

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:29:38 PM UTC-4, haitic...@gmail.com wrote:

LIBERAL HOAX #3 - Carcinogens







I want to add the area of carcinogens in the environment. This piece of flim-flam



Huh? Asbestos is nasty stuff.



George H.



is beloved of the government because they can "protect us" and make us passive



in the face of a major threat. Centralized government is desperate to find a way



to be useful, because it makes them look good, and maybe in some there is a



twinge of guilt about their theft of money from the economy.







I mean, it is more attractive to say to your grand-children, "I helped save a



million people from environment-caused cancer," than "I stole millions based on



pure hokum, and now we have this nice house?"







The carcinogens hoax has been used to drive major parts of the US economy out of



business - and to China. Examples abound, but nearly all our vitamins are made



in China, because regulations have forced US manufacturers out of business,



based on carcinogens and other myths.







The myth of carcinogens has been one of the more destructive of the modern



scientific scams fostered by the government-academic complex.

well, yes, asbestos, but there is another 20,000 that are not. I was trying to
zero in on the "cancer scare industry" in which carcinogens abound.

The best guy to listen to about this is Prof. Bruce Ames, originator of the
"Ames Carconogen test." He now says that all the dangerous carcinogens is just
a bunch of bunk. (bruce ames yourtube) He is THE main man on carcinogens, and
at age 80, says his life work (or that part of it - he did work on
mitochondrial aging and aging in general which is very current.) -was mistaken.

more later

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 04/15/2014 03:11 AM, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2014-04-15 03:54, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
Den mandag den 14. april 2014 19.27.27 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
On 04/14/2014 12:33 PM, Martin Brown wrote:
The problem was not sanity checking the parameters in the message for
validity. This is all too common

See e.g. http://xkcd.com/327/
that is obviously because the database was written in c

-Lasse


I don't see what C's got to do with this. This concerns
some form of SQL.

"'s a joke, son, jes' a joke."

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[David Brown]

On 15/04/14 15:25, haiticare2011@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:40:31 AM UTC-4, Kennedy wrote:
snip
SSRI drugs, medical treatments, IPhone, IOT...



Homeopathy - this is hilarious stuff:



http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/09/09/homeopathic-leak-threatens-catastrophe/

Yes, homeopathy is an obvious fraud, in the view of traditional science. There
was a fellow in europe who claimed to have scientific proof for it, but he was
faking data, as I remember.
I had an acquaintance, a woman who lived to the age of 100. When she was alive,
I looked at her vitamin shelf, and it was all homeopathy!
Homeopathy may belong in the area of "higher placebo effect." The nurses study,
a landmark lifestyle-health study, showed that friends are more important than
even smoking! And other studies show church-going has a big effect.

Friends are more important than diet or anything else!
Explain that, materialist scientists!

When I see things like that, I am hesitant to dismiss homeopathy completely.

When you write that, I have no hesitation in dismissing you completely.

Freud said that the power of suggestion was the strongest psychological force.
I am at a loss to explain the effect of friends.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 06:15:20 GMT, Jan Panteltje <panteltje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:41:26 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
dudpk9p01aabttb3vrgag1mb19rflo96rd@4ax.com>:

We're thinking about moving, in a year or so maybe, to a bigger place in a
quietier neighborhood. Moving is such fun!

Cheaper city?

No, just a few blocks south to a less frantic location. Mission, Otis, South
Van Ness, as 12th streets collide with a total of 27 lanes of traffic. That's
about 25 too many.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

 

[RobertMacy]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:57:11 -0700, panfilero <panfilero@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm interested in sensing AC and DC currents, 0-8A nominally, but up to
160A for 10msec current surges from both AC and DC sources... I'm after
the best resolution I can get... I don't know if it's possible to do
this for both AC and DC off the same current sense circuit... I was
thinking a shunt through a current sense amplifier then to an RMS to DC
converter IC... but I'm not sure if this is the best approach... any
suggestions?

much thanks!

Once for monitoring giant industrial control system, I designed a
universal, low-cost, isolated sensor. This isolated, extremely low
cost/wide range multi-'voltage' sensor was used as the input(s) into
multiple sets of 8, or 16 analog input GNDed MUXes for computer system
measuring multi-voltage ranges [important characteristic to have universal
measurement range, sensors interchangeable, and exact types unknown to the
installer] for monitoring DC/AC switches and DC/AC motors in 'electrically
robust' industrial applications. Since basic sensor actually used a
resistor to be high impedance and the sensor actually measured current
through that resistor, you could adapt the basic design to your needs.

The sensor met the following:
DC/AC: 'voltmeter' [DC, or AC mains switches, motors, etc]
INPUT: input required less than 1/2 watt max
OUTPUT: analog waveform
RANGE: 'accurately' measure unknown sources of +/-5Vdc to 480Vac [200ppm
of FS, remember, sensing current]
ISOLATION: 3kVac [standard high quality transformer, UL/NRTL approved.
Note, at the input's isolated voltage there were two terminals, two
resistors, a capacitor, and the input to the 3/8 inch transformer so the
PCB area for creepage distance, etc was SMALL!]
POWER SUPPLY: used available +-12Vdc, less than 200 mW per sensor
COST: $.87 per sensor

These racks of sensors provided inexpensive monitoring in sets of 8 to 16
isolated pairs that then could be put into the computer's GNDed 8, or 16,
to 1 analog MUX for the computer to do its ADC on. Sets of sensors,
because some Systems required over 100 monitoring points, some Systems
much less. The application was for a pretty complex industrial computer
control of a 'monster' of an industrial system. controlling a myriad of
motors while monitoring all kinds of supply/running voltages and position
ON/OFF type switches. At each installation, the computer control system
was identical, yet each installation/application was absolutely different
at each of those locations. To lower costs, the overall installation had
to be 'universal' without regard to what was being monitored, whether it
was a 5Vdc switch, or a 480Vac motor supply. Even the computer system was
set up to 'learn' what was connected to it. Cabling was a nightmarish
jumble. The motors were, well, BIG! Moving several tons around. Electrical
environment? When everything was running the EMC was enough to shut off
your hand drill, not really, but very, very robust interference.
Industrial grade EMC AC mains requirements, with motor switching noise in
excess of 1000 Volt spikes and surges type noise.

If you have a 'volume' requirement, or need 'universal' inexpensive
isolated input sensors; contact me. The design can be adapted.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 04/15/2014 04:53 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

On 14/04/2014 06:56, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:54:39 +1000, Sylvia Else
sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

At the time of its creation, both memory and CPU time were expensive. It
wasn't practical to specify the language in a way that ensured bounds
checking because of the memory and time costs involved.

In the 1970's i wrote a lot of programs for 16 bit mini computers
using FORTRAN IV, which only had tables and indexes, no pointers or
character strings. At least some compilers had the option to generate
run time index checks. This was usually employed during product
development, but turned off in the shipped product.

Actually it did have pointers but FORTRAN programmers tended not to be
aware of them. The lack of any strong typing meant that an inordinate
amount of time was wasted by physicists calling NAGLIB routines that
expected 8 byte DOUBLE PRECISION REAL arrays with 4 byte REAL ones.

SUBROUTINE SWAP(I,J)
K=I
I=J
J=K
RETURN
END

When called with arguments like SIN and COS could have very interesting
side effects on subsequent use of trig functions. A pointer to an array
of unknown length was declared by convention as length 1 eg.

INTEGER TRICKY(1)


FORTRAN IV did not have any string data type, so you had to write your
own string library using byte arrays (or in the worst case integer
arrays). It was as primitive as C. The only difference is that C
provides ready made string subroutine library (strcpy etc.).

It did have character arrays but only a handful of custom dialects
allowed easy string manifest constants in quotes. 6HSTRING was always
portable but heaven help you if you miscounted the string length.

It would after F66 let you assign Hollerith character constants to
arrays in DATA statement. I think this illustrates my point perfectly.

PROGRAM HELLO
C
INTEGER IHWSTR(3)
DATA IHWSTR/4HHELL,4HO WO,3HRLD/
C
WRITE (6,100) IHWSTR
STOP
100 FORMAT (3A4)
END

Believe it or not that was an improvement on what went before!

The lack of reserved words made the language interesting with the
Chinese usage. It wasn't hard to break compilers back then. Indeed
FORTRAN G was so unsure of itself that all successful compilations ended
with the message "NO DIAGNOSTICS GENERATED?".


Fortran-77 integrated strings into the language. A similar integration
was available only in C++, not in C.

Ironically they were integrated too late. C had its nul terminated
strings but they were just that and so intrinsically dangerous.

Had there been a string length at the start (as occurred in some other
languages of the era) the world be a very different place. That was
probably one of the most destructive peephole optimisations of all time.

+1

Though it was really all the land mines in the library, e.g. strncpy
_sometimes_ failing to copy the trailing null. The only really awful
thing about the null is having to remember that it's there, e.g. that
sizeof(string) != strlen(string).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:57:11 -0700 (PDT), panfilero
<panfilero@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm interested in sensing AC and DC currents, 0-8A nominally, but up to 160A for 10msec current surges from both AC and DC sources... I'm after the best resolution I can get... I don't know if it's possible to do this for both AC and DC off the same current sense circuit... I was thinking a shunt through a current sense amplifier then to an RMS to DC converter IC... but I'm not sure if this is the best approach... any suggestions?

much thanks!

Are you only measuring the 0-8A, and just tolerating the 160A surge,
or do you need to measure the 160A as well?

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[RobertMacy]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 06:43:03 -0700, <habib.bouaziz@gmail.com> wrote:

...snip...
Hello !

In such situation i may say "Please avoid any design based on a resitor
shunt". Although most of engineers are thinking about shunts, thinking
it may produce a clean and low cost PCBA, in fact it will not ! believe
me, chosing a shunt for such current will drive you crazy ... you are
warned.

The only best choice for

- DC/AC large range of currents,
- sustain surge current,
- galvanic insulation,
- ...etc

is a Hall effect closed loop CT. --> try googling with.

Habib.

Re-inforce what you say, with
1. don't want to mess with those kinds of power connections - leave them
intact.
2. better to have isolation to those lines, you have no idea what they're
doing.
3. Don't insert anything.

PS: I don't like Hall-effect sensors because they are current hogs and
drift.

for 'one offs' I'd look at GMR sensors, readily available, like Hall
Effect, but only require around 1-2mA bias current.

NVE Corporation (800) GMR-7141 (800) 467-7141
11409 Valley View Road
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
http://www.nve.com

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 15 Apr 2014 07:14:08 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
<fgfqk9t4410tl0jrt02u5o2etuel4a2eqi@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 06:15:20 GMT, Jan Panteltje <panteltje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:41:26 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
dudpk9p01aabttb3vrgag1mb19rflo96rd@4ax.com>:

We're thinking about moving, in a year or so maybe, to a bigger place in a
quietier neighborhood. Moving is such fun!

Cheaper city?

No, just a few blocks south to a less frantic location. Mission, Otis, South
Van Ness, as 12th streets collide with a total of 27 lanes of traffic. That's
about 25 too many.

Yes I see it in google maps..
Was wondering if you were about to move to Arizona across from Jim.
I would think things are cheaper there..

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:54:45 +0100, Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com>
wrote:

Most carriers are sensitive and carry out the shippers instructions.

In this case it seems UPS's tail is wagging the dog and DigiKey just
cite UPS's rules.

I would think they'd be motivated by possibly getting stuck with
shipping charges if it gets returned to them and you dispute the CC
bill as never having been delivered, but maybe they've colluded with
UPS to deal with that.

Doesn't the NHS require photo ID? We used to have photo-less health
cards, but between illegal immigrants and uninsured from south of the
border, it became necessary.

--sp

 

[RobertMacy]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 07:39:41 -0700, Jan Panteltje <panteltje@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 15 Apr 2014 07:14:08 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
fgfqk9t4410tl0jrt02u5o2etuel4a2eqi@4ax.com>:

...snip....
We're thinking about moving, in a year or so maybe, to a bigger place
in a
quietier neighborhood. Moving is such fun!
...snip....
Yes I see it in google maps..
Was wondering if you were about to move to Arizona across from Jim.
I would think things are cheaper there..

Heads up when you move. Crowd everybody into their 'final' spaces. Do NOT
allow people to spread out to use all the available space.

I made that mistake once. I allowed people to take over all the space,
anywhere from 200 sqft each to over 500 sqft each, then as I added people,
morale went DOWN!! major setback, everybody perceived demotion as they
lost space. So next time, I forced everybody into their 'final' locations
with a giant empty space in plain view. Then, as I added people, morale
went UP!

Some people's children and sharing. sigh.

 

[David Eather]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:00:44 +1000, <haiticare2011@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:19:24 AM UTC-4, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 15/04/2014 00:39, Tim Wescott wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:12:09 -0700, haiticare2011 wrote:



I can't give an exhaustive list, due to time constraints, but here is

the first. It is:



The Human Genome Project



This has been a dismal failure. A worm has similar DNA to ours. Here
is

just one brief view of it: I have heard supposedly intelligent PhD's
say

that "everything about us is determined by DNA." And VC's went along

with this hoax.



But even a high school student in Biology 1A knows that the genotype
and

a phenotype both interact to produce the organism.



Without going into details, the perpetrators of the HGP lured
investors

by promising that patentable DNA sequences would predict cancer, and
the

like.

But any cancer researcher knows that only a small percentage are
linked

to genetics.



===========



I'm open to any suggestions of further scientific flim-flam. On my
list

are AI, medical research, much nano-technology, alternative energy,

climate change,

SSRI drugs, medical treatments, IPhone, IOT...



Oh jeeze, don't stop there -- you left out evolution!



And Copernicanism.



Cheers

--

Syd

On a deep level, yes, you could say that Copernicus had another side. As
a
scientist, of course he was "right." The Christian Bible put forward a
belief
that the earth is the center of the universe.

<snip>

That is absolutely not true. The Bible says NOTHING on the arrangement of
the solar system. What happened was that the Catholic church accepted
large amounts of Aristotelian beliefs - including the shape/organization
of the solar system. It was the ancient Greeks, not the Christians who put
the earth at the center of the universe.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 14:39:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <panteltje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 15 Apr 2014 07:14:08 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
fgfqk9t4410tl0jrt02u5o2etuel4a2eqi@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 06:15:20 GMT, Jan Panteltje <panteltje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:41:26 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
dudpk9p01aabttb3vrgag1mb19rflo96rd@4ax.com>:

We're thinking about moving, in a year or so maybe, to a bigger place in a
quietier neighborhood. Moving is such fun!

Cheaper city?

No, just a few blocks south to a less frantic location. Mission, Otis, South
Van Ness, as 12th streets collide with a total of 27 lanes of traffic. That's
about 25 too many.

Yes I see it in google maps..
Was wondering if you were about to move to Arizona across from Jim.
I would think things are cheaper there..

Certainly cheaper, out in a desert, with miles and miles of miles and miles. But
there's a reason why Google and Square and Twitter and Linear and a zillion
other tech companies are in San Francisco and New York and Austin. The kind of
people that we need like to live here.

Besides, the air is cleaner here.

http://pilgrimito.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/phoenix-brown-cloud.jpg

Besides, I'd probably run into Jim at IHOP or Applebees or The Olive Garden.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 15 Apr 2014 08:28:00 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
<i1jqk91db339snges0irvk8tpqm9mk6vlt@4ax.com>:

Certainly cheaper, out in a desert, with miles and miles of miles and miles. But
there's a reason why Google and Square and Twitter and Linear and a zillion
other tech companies are in San Francisco and New York and Austin. The kind of
people that we need like to live here.

Besides, the air is cleaner here.

http://pilgrimito.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/phoenix-brown-cloud.jpg

I took this picture yesterday late afternoon, from inside:
http://panteltje.com/pub/rainbow_IMG_4440.JPG


>Besides, I'd probably run into Jim at IHOP or Applebees or The Olive Garden.

Yea, likely.
;-)

 

[Jon Elson]

John Larkin wrote:

We ordered a Universal pick-and-place machine. Wound up getting a
dual-head one sort of by accident.



It's weird that a machine that places parts the size of ants has to weigh
five tons and comes on 11 pallets.

Geez, I had no idea they were that heavy. Our Philips CSM84 is 5 x 7 feet,
and 5' tall, and weighs something like 1700 Lbs. It has 3 heads and can
do up to 5000 PPH or so using multiple heads with mechanical alignment
jaws. I didn't get the model with vision.

I had to have a double door installed when I knew the machine was coming.
That cost me more than the machine+shipping!

Jon

 

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:53:45 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com

wrote:



On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:22:00 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:00:17 -0700 (PDT), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail..com



wrote:







On Monday, April 14, 2014 11:47:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:



snip







More of your damned fool ignorance:







http://www.mmh.com/article/walkie_lift_trucks_a_good_walk_optimized







For the really out sized stuff, they just jack up one end of the pallet and shove a wheel set under it.







The pallets and machines are easy to move, once they are flat on the floor. The



problem was unloading the truck.







https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Gear/PnP/7500_Lbs.JPG







My folks had fun unloading this stuff, and are looking forward to setting it up



and learning how to run it all.







You are perpetually hostile and negative and crabby. That can't be healthy. Or



fun.











--







John Larkin Highland Technology Inc



www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com







Precision electronic instrumentation



There are these things, Sherlock :



http://www.southworthproducts.com/content1873.html



None of this requires an 80' flatbed transport to the site. When you call the forklift people they're going to rent you a forklift because it's all they know.





Nonsense. Armchair theorist.



We don't need a loading dock in a pit; imagine what that would cost! And the

truck could not have backed up to one without blocking half the traffic in

downtown San Francisco.



The forklift guys delivered the green monster to our door in half an hour after

we decided that we needed it, for $500.





--



John Larkin Highland Technology Inc

www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com



Precision electronic instrumentation

It's just a platform on a scissor jack, it's light and it rolls around. A 5-ton capacity is pretty small. But you know more than the manufacturer who specializes in equipment for getting cargo out of big trucks, and has been doing this for some time, not exactly a novelty item.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:39:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <panteltje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 15 Apr 2014 08:28:00 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
i1jqk91db339snges0irvk8tpqm9mk6vlt@4ax.com>:

Certainly cheaper, out in a desert, with miles and miles of miles and miles. But
there's a reason why Google and Square and Twitter and Linear and a zillion
other tech companies are in San Francisco and New York and Austin. The kind of
people that we need like to live here.

Besides, the air is cleaner here.

http://pilgrimito.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/phoenix-brown-cloud.jpg

I took this picture yesterday late afternoon, from inside:
http://panteltje.com/pub/rainbow_IMG_4440.JPG


Besides, I'd probably run into Jim at IHOP or Applebees or The Olive Garden.

Yea, likely.
;-)

Nice big one!

This is a rainbow over Lake Tahoe, on my birthday in 2010. We stopped at a
little general store for snacks and batteries, stepped outside, and saw this:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Rainbow.jpg

That's Nevada on the far side.

We missed the lunar eclipse and red moon last night; fogged over. San Francisco
gets a lot of fog, especially in our neighborhood, in the Alemany Gap. But it's
nice clean fog, and we don't need air conditioning.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

 

[John Devereux]

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> writes:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 11:54:45 +0100, Mike Perkins <spam@spam.com
wrote:


Most carriers are sensitive and carry out the shippers instructions.

In this case it seems UPS's tail is wagging the dog and DigiKey just
cite UPS's rules.

I would think they'd be motivated by possibly getting stuck with
shipping charges if it gets returned to them and you dispute the CC
bill as never having been delivered, but maybe they've colluded with
UPS to deal with that.

Doesn't the NHS require photo ID? We used to have photo-less health
cards, but between illegal immigrants and uninsured from south of the
border, it became necessary.

No, not in my experience. No ID at all AFAIK, although I have not had to
register with a new doctor (always been with the same practice since
birth). I have never been asked or had to show any kind of ID whatsoever
when turning up at doctors or hospital or ER (with a poorly toddler
say). It never occurred to me to take any either.


--

John Devereux

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 04/15/2014 12:00 PM, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, April 14, 2014 11:47:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
snip

More of your damned fool ignorance:

http://www.mmh.com/article/walkie_lift_trucks_a_good_walk_optimized

For the really out sized stuff, they just jack up one end of the pallet and shove a wheel set under it.

Good luck pulling a 7500 pound load up the camber of the street with a
manual truck. Or stopping it if it decides to go down.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 04/15/2014 11:22 AM, David Eather wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:00:44 +1000, <haiticare2011@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:19:24 AM UTC-4, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 15/04/2014 00:39, Tim Wescott wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:12:09 -0700, haiticare2011 wrote:



I can't give an exhaustive list, due to time constraints, but here is

the first. It is:



The Human Genome Project



This has been a dismal failure. A worm has similar DNA to ours.
Here is

just one brief view of it: I have heard supposedly intelligent
PhD's say

that "everything about us is determined by DNA." And VC's went along

with this hoax.



But even a high school student in Biology 1A knows that the
genotype and

a phenotype both interact to produce the organism.



Without going into details, the perpetrators of the HGP lured
investors

by promising that patentable DNA sequences would predict cancer,
and the

like.

But any cancer researcher knows that only a small percentage are
linked

to genetics.



===========



I'm open to any suggestions of further scientific flim-flam. On my
list

are AI, medical research, much nano-technology, alternative energy,

climate change,

SSRI drugs, medical treatments, IPhone, IOT...



Oh jeeze, don't stop there -- you left out evolution!



And Copernicanism.



Cheers

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Syd

On a deep level, yes, you could say that Copernicus had another side.
As a
scientist, of course he was "right." The Christian Bible put forward a
belief
that the earth is the center of the universe.

snip

That is absolutely not true. The Bible says NOTHING on the arrangement
of the solar system. What happened was that the Catholic church accepted
large amounts of Aristotelian beliefs - including the shape/organization
of the solar system. It was the ancient Greeks, not the Christians who
put the earth at the center of the universe.

It wasn't belief, it was the best science of the day. It was overturned
by experimental observation (Galileo seeing the moons of Jupiter) and
better theory. (Kepler, BTW, not Copernicus--C. just reformulated the
Ptolemaic system to get rid of the one-year epicycle on all the outer
planets.)

The other fun fact is that the classical/medieval view was that the
Earth was where all the less desirable bits of the universe collected,
due to being too gross to float in the ether. Sort of like a cosmic
version of baseband.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
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