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On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:55:51 -0500, mm wrote:
she said the problem is that it will eventually break.
No, it won't. Not if it's soldered correctly.
Have you soldered much?
I have a propane torch, a smaller butane torch with soldering tips, and
the
Weller soldering station. I'm not all that good (I always seem to melt the
solder instead of heating the wires) but I'd consider myself ok with
solder.
Snip
Typo. I meant it shouldnt' be hard to get. But maybe onlyFour conductor shielded wire shoudlnt' be easy to get.
I was told that if you contact customer service, they will make some sort ofAnd I too considered returning the original cable.
I asked if it had already been buried and was too
dirty to return.
from PERSONAL experience:No. Soldering is better. The phone company doesn't want to spend the
time it takes to solder each connection, up to hundreds a day, and it
has a staff to go fix problems when they develop, as well as
electronic tools to find the break in a wire, by injecting a signal at
one end if necessary.
....snip...
Elmo, believe me.On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:55:51 -0500, mm wrote:
she said the problem is that it will eventually break.
No, it won't. Not if it's soldered correctly.
Have you soldered much?
I have a propane torch, a smaller butane torch with soldering tips, and the
Weller soldering station. I'm not all that good (I always seem to melt the
solder instead of heating the wires) but I'd consider myself ok with
solder.
Of course you'll know where it is. It will be 50 feet from where you
buried the wand. And about 100 feet from where the controller is.
I could also look for an electrical connection type box (like the ones
used with the water sprinklers) and that way it would be obvious to all,
even any new owners.
Now, if you don't have an connector on the end of the wire,
you could use heat-shrink tubing,
I think the scotch 23, silicone tape will do a much better job.
I think I'll solder in a compatible wire after finding that scotch 23 in a
local hardware store. My home depot didn't have it.
BTW, are you near powerlines? Most places aren't but a few are.
Yes There are overhead power lines. Why do you ask?
No no no....this is the most entertaining thread I have read today. IThis has gone on long enough.
LOL! Thanks. I needed that today.There are currently 47 messages in this thread, which is a bit much to
read. I've only read about half, with nothing really interesting
(except my own postings).
....snip...
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The overhead power lines provide a voltage disturbance [shorted out byOn Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:55:51 -0500, mm wrote:
she said the problem is that it will eventually break.
No, it won't. Not if it's soldered correctly.
Have you soldered much?
I have a propane torch, a smaller butane torch with soldering tips, and the
Weller soldering station. I'm not all that good (I always seem to melt the
solder instead of heating the wires) but I'd consider myself ok with
solder.
Of course you'll know where it is. It will be 50 feet from where you
buried the wand. And about 100 feet from where the controller is.
I could also look for an electrical connection type box (like the ones
used with the water sprinklers) and that way it would be obvious to all,
even any new owners.
Now, if you don't have an connector on the end of the wire,
you could use heat-shrink tubing,
I think the scotch 23, silicone tape will do a much better job.
I think I'll solder in a compatible wire after finding that scotch 23 in a
local hardware store. My home depot didn't have it.
BTW, are you near powerlines? Most places aren't but a few are.
Yes There are overhead power lines. Why do you ask?
Considering the wand is burried, the only way that will happen is if"Elmo" <dcdraftworks@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in message
news:f092f721a034ccd5d2cf9cce687255db@tioat.net...
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:55:51 -0500, mm wrote:
she said the problem is that it will eventually break.
No, it won't. Not if it's soldered correctly.
Have you soldered much?
I have a propane torch, a smaller butane torch with soldering tips, and
the
Weller soldering station. I'm not all that good (I always seem to melt the
solder instead of heating the wires) but I'd consider myself ok with
solder.
Snip
Why not just replace the whole wire from the control box to the sensor wand?
Then theres no splices in the ground.
Hee-he-he-eh... Mature response, proves the point nicely....
Blow it out your ass you incessant babbling assclown.
You fucking idiots have run this topic into the ground
like a bunch off nattering old cunts. In reality you fuckheads
are the trolls, not I and I contribute where I can. Just happens my
contribution to this beaten into the ground thread is for you to end
the cross post and argue about this silly ass bullshit in AHR. If you
don't like it shove it up your fucking fart-valve.
And if you think I care enough about fame in the eyes of
fuckwitted turds like you and the rest of these nattering nincompoops
You are woefully mistaken.
I don't remember it being called High Voltage Tape...On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:14:22 -0500, blueman <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote:
mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> writes:
If you're burying it when you're done, silicone tape, I think it's
called, is even better than heat-shrink tubing and doesn't slip on, it
wraps on. Stretch it to 2 or 3 times its length, then wrap while
streched and within a few days it merges into one big probably
waterproof blob. Hard to find though.
HD has it in several locations in our local stores (plumbing and maybe also
electrical areas) - may be hard to find cuz most people don't know about it.
It seems we are talking about -- at least that's what's included in
his kit -- "Scotch 23 High Voltage Tape"**, but when I search on that
at the Home Depot site, I get 2 hits, regular vinyl electrical tape
and packaging tape. When I search on "Scotch 23", I don't get
anything.
is exactly what it should be doing when you apply it.Now HD and Lowes have the worst webpages I've come across, so maybe
that doesn't mean anything.
The one easily visible thing I've noticed about this tape is that it
is wound on a white plastic spool, instead of a cardboard spool. It's
thick and has a backing layer that has to be removed to use a piece.
I think that's right because otherwise it would stick to itself -- which
Are we talking about the same thing? Do they really have it at HD.
They do in our area.
I looked years ago but couldnt' find it.
It's expensive. I think I paid 11 or 12 dollars a roll, but it's great
for special uses.
I seem to remember more like $5-7.
Most of the hits I got yesterday called it Scotch 23 Rubber Splicingmm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> writes:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:14:22 -0500, blueman <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote:
mm <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> writes:
If you're burying it when you're done, silicone tape, I think it's
called, is even better than heat-shrink tubing and doesn't slip on, it
wraps on. Stretch it to 2 or 3 times its length, then wrap while
streched and within a few days it merges into one big probably
waterproof blob. Hard to find though.
HD has it in several locations in our local stores (plumbing and maybe also
electrical areas) - may be hard to find cuz most people don't know about it.
It seems we are talking about -- at least that's what's included in
his kit -- "Scotch 23 High Voltage Tape"**, but when I search on that
at the Home Depot site, I get 2 hits, regular vinyl electrical tape
and packaging tape. When I search on "Scotch 23", I don't get
anything.
I don't remember it being called High Voltage Tape...
Now HD and Lowes have the worst webpages I've come across, so maybe
that doesn't mean anything.
The one easily visible thing I've noticed about this tape is that it
is wound on a white plastic spool, instead of a cardboard spool. It's
thick and has a backing layer that has to be removed to use a piece.
I think that's right because otherwise it would stick to itself -- which
is exactly what it should be doing when you apply it.
Are we talking about the same thing? Do they really have it at HD.
They do in our area.
I looked years ago but couldnt' find it.
It's expensive. I think I paid 11 or 12 dollars a roll, but it's great
for special uses.
I seem to remember more like $5-7.
Right. The only place the wand and wires comes up for air is directly atConsidering the wand is burried, the only way that will happen is if
you raise the splice above ground!
Reordered:On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:48:43 -0500, PeterD wrote:
I'd be looking for some shielded CAT5 (STP) stranded wire
Very interesting suggestion!
Don't let one person, especially a person who reads the very newsgroupNote: Removed crosspost.
Sure you can, and if you get 100 feet, doesn't that mean you'll beI didn't know what STP was but it's apparently "Shielded Twisted Pair".
Searching, I can easily find 100 foot lengths of "Cat 5 STP", e.g.,
http://www.topmicrousa.com/10x6-521hd.html
Who says it's not required? It's not facilitated or provided for, butI like the idea of wiring a female RJ45 connector and just plugging a
standard CAT5 STP wire into the RJ45 for convenience (no soldering
required).
Yes it does, to shield one pair from another, one wire from a wire inApparently CAT5 uses either foil shields or braid and maybe both as alluded
to in this url ( http://sewelldirect.com/Cat5e-STP-Bulk-Cable.asp ).