Design for infrared light healer (from Wired) published anyw

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

Please reply in the group; the e-mail address is NOT valid. Thanks.

 

[Ian Stirling]

In sci.electronics.design nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

My first question would not be how to build it, but where is a peer-reviewed

double-blind trial that shows positive benefits.

 

[Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun]

In article <mpfhqvkch6n2ok914eb1dcj5a7p1v10vr5@4ax.com>,
nobody@nospamaccepted.no mentioned...

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

Treating the retina only needs a few LEDs, but treating a larger area
such as a patch of skin would require many, many LEDs, making it
expensive.

Seems that it would be easier to put a filter in front of sunlight and
expose the body to that filtered light. The filter would remove the
UV and light wavelengths to keep the patient from getting sunburned
and overheated. The light is free, a lot cheaper than IR LEDs.


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In article <boaq99$781$2$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk>,
root@mauve.demon.co.uk mentioned...

In sci.electronics.design nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:
I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

My first question would not be how to build it, but where is a peer-reviewed
double-blind trial that shows positive benefits.

The article said that such studies had already been done. Even so,
plain old sunlight (in moderate doses) has been used for millenia to
help heal patients. Seems to me that these gizmos are just a way to
bring a facsimile of sunlight inside.


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that will give you a choice and save you money(up to half).
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changed it: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
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[Fred]

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.1a129c9ca1a334c49898af@news.dslextreme.com...

In article <mpfhqvkch6n2ok914eb1dcj5a7p1v10vr5@4ax.com>,
nobody@nospamaccepted.no mentioned...
I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared
LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output
LED's
flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or
ten
bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is,
does
anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

Treating the retina only needs a few LEDs, but treating a larger area
such as a patch of skin would require many, many LEDs, making it
expensive.

Seems that it would be easier to put a filter in front of sunlight and
expose the body to that filtered light. The filter would remove the
UV and light wavelengths to keep the patient from getting sunburned
and overheated. The light is free, a lot cheaper than IR LEDs.

Failing being able to use the sun - try an array of tungsten filament light
bulbs. They push out more IR than anything else. Underun them if you want
less light but I wouldn't bother.

 

[Jerry G.]

From what I perceive, that if you were to make an array of IR LED's such
that are used on TV remotes, this will work for you. I am under the
impression that a simple DC source should do it. You would have to use the
proper value series resistor to each LED to match to the feed voltage. This
should be very simple to do. It is also speculated that most any IR light
source should work for this. In the past it has been said that the rays
from the sun can heal many things.

If you do a search under this topic, hundreds of sites about this will show
up. They are mostly all referring to credible references.

As for the eyes, I would not start pointing light sources of any kind
directly in to them without seriously knowing the safety factors involved
and the effect of the particular wavelength characteristics, with the
particular light source. You may end up doing more damage than not.


The links below look interesting.

http://www.thorlaser.com/wound/how-does-it-work.htm

http://garm.dyndns.org/whelan_lab/01/html/%20/whelan.html


One thing I noticed, I used to have a troublesome wart on my hand. One time
I was playing around with a laser pointer. I was shining it at the wart for
a while and being fascinated about how the light was reflecting from it.
About a week later, it went away! I have no idea if this was from the
laser pointer, or from the medication that I put on it... Next time, if it
returns, I will have to try it again without the medication.


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<nobody@nospamaccepted.no> wrote in message
news:mpfhqvkch6n2ok914eb1dcj5a7p1v10vr5@4ax.com...
I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

Please reply in the group; the e-mail address is NOT valid. Thanks.

 

[Chuck Harris]

Duct tape has been proven to be more effective than either cryo removal,
or any of the wart remover medicines.

Just clean the wart with soap and water, and cover it completely with
duct tape. Leave it on, replace when it gets yucky. In a week, or so,
the wart will be all gone.

-Chuck

Jerry G. wrote:

From what I perceive, that if you were to make an array of IR LED's such
that are used on TV remotes, this will work for you. I am under the
impression that a simple DC source should do it. You would have to use the
proper value series resistor to each LED to match to the feed voltage. This
should be very simple to do. It is also speculated that most any IR light
source should work for this. In the past it has been said that the rays
from the sun can heal many things.

If you do a search under this topic, hundreds of sites about this will show
up. They are mostly all referring to credible references.

As for the eyes, I would not start pointing light sources of any kind
directly in to them without seriously knowing the safety factors involved
and the effect of the particular wavelength characteristics, with the
particular light source. You may end up doing more damage than not.


The links below look interesting.

http://www.thorlaser.com/wound/how-does-it-work.htm

http://garm.dyndns.org/whelan_lab/01/html/%20/whelan.html


One thing I noticed, I used to have a troublesome wart on my hand. One time
I was playing around with a laser pointer. I was shining it at the wart for
a while and being fascinated about how the light was reflecting from it.
About a week later, it went away! I have no idea if this was from the
laser pointer, or from the medication that I put on it... Next time, if it
returns, I will have to try it again without the medication.

 

[Richard Henry]

"Jerry G." <jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bob1s6$q5l$1@news.eusc.inter.net...

One thing I noticed, I used to have a troublesome wart on my hand. One
time
I was playing around with a laser pointer. I was shining it at the wart
for
a while and being fascinated about how the light was reflecting from it.
About a week later, it went away! I have no idea if this was from the
laser pointer, or from the medication that I put on it... Next time, if it
returns, I will have to try it again without the medication.

If it returns, is it really healed?

 

[Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun]

Jerry G. wrote:

From what I perceive, that if you were to make an array of IR LED's such
that are used on TV remotes, this will work for you. I am under the
impression that a simple DC source should do it. You would have to use the
proper value series resistor to each LED to match to the feed voltage. This
should be very simple to do. It is also speculated that most any IR light
source should work for this. In the past it has been said that the rays
from the sun can heal many things.

If you do a search under this topic, hundreds of sites about this will show
up. They are mostly all referring to credible references.

As for the eyes, I would not start pointing light sources of any kind
directly in to them without seriously knowing the safety factors involved
and the effect of the particular wavelength characteristics, with the
particular light source. You may end up doing more damage than not.

The links below look interesting.

http://www.thorlaser.com/wound/how-does-it-work.htm

http://garm.dyndns.org/whelan_lab/01/html/%20/whelan.html

One thing I noticed, I used to have a troublesome wart on my hand. One time
I was playing around with a laser pointer. I was shining it at the wart for
a while and being fascinated about how the light was reflecting from it.
About a week later, it went away! I have no idea if this was from the
laser pointer, or from the medication that I put on it... Next time, if it
returns, I will have to try it again without the medication.

Dontcha know the home remedy for warts? You cut a notch in a stick and
rub it on the wart, and bury it. This works, because much of the healing
is psychosomatic.

A guy I knew had a wart on his knee, so he went to the college's health
center and they doused it with liquid nitrogen and put a bandage over
it. A few days later, the blister broke, and the liquid dribbled down
his leg, and you could see where it ran by the tiny new warts growing
along its path. :-(

Skip down and read the one that all in CAPITALS.
http://www.otan.us/webfarm/emailproject/warts.htm

 

[René]

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 04:24:40 -0500, nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

Please reply in the group; the e-mail address is NOT valid. Thanks.

I remember a distant past where in many houshold a so called
"InfraPhil" lamp was present, basically a deep red incandescent
spotlight made by Philips. Was supposed to do good with backaches and
such.

I guess one is getting really old if inventions are crossing one's
path for the second time....

--
- René

 

[pkh]

The article says nothing about a double blind test with placebo on humans.

Sounds like another miracle bracelet or magnetic therapy product to me!

Paul

Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover wrote:

In article <boaq99$781$2$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk>,
root@mauve.demon.co.uk mentioned...

In sci.electronics.design nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:


My first question would not be how to build it, but where is a peer-reviewed
double-blind trial that shows positive benefits.


The article said that such studies had already been done. Even so,
plain old sunlight (in moderate doses) has been used for millenia to
help heal patients. Seems to me that these gizmos are just a way to
bring a facsimile of sunlight inside.

 

[Mark Jones]

In news:bob2ra$q7j$1@bob.news.rcn.net (Chuck Harris):

Duct tape has been proven to be more effective than either cryo removal,
or any of the wart remover medicines.

Just clean the wart with soap and water, and cover it completely with
duct tape. Leave it on, replace when it gets yucky. In a week, or so,
the wart will be all gone.

-Chuck

Did that, had a stubborn wart that would not respond to salacylic acid. It
gets painful to keep covered constantly, I recommend 6 out of 7 days. Also
don't be surprised if it takes longer than a week. Mine took about a month.
But at least it's gone!

 

[Mark Jones]

In news:bob3t2$4o53m$1@hades.csu.net (Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark
Remover"):

Jerry G. wrote:
From what I perceive, that if you were to make an array of IR LED's
such that are used on TV remotes, this will work for you. I am under
the impression that a simple DC source should do it. You would have
to use the proper value series resistor to each LED to match to the
feed voltage. This should be very simple to do. It is also
speculated that most any IR light source should work for this. In the
past it has been said that the rays from the sun can heal many things.

If you do a search under this topic, hundreds of sites about this will
show up. They are mostly all referring to credible references.

As for the eyes, I would not start pointing light sources of any kind
directly in to them without seriously knowing the safety factors
involved and the effect of the particular wavelength characteristics,
with the particular light source. You may end up doing more damage
than not.

The links below look interesting.

http://www.thorlaser.com/wound/how-does-it-work.htm

http://garm.dyndns.org/whelan_lab/01/html/%20/whelan.html


One thing I noticed, I used to have a troublesome wart on my hand.
One time I was playing around with a laser pointer. I was shining it
at the wart for a while and being fascinated about how the light was
reflecting from it. About a week later, it went away! I have no idea
if this was from the laser pointer, or from the medication that I put
on it... Next time, if it returns, I will have to try it again without
the medication.

Dontcha know the home remedy for warts? You cut a notch in a stick and
rub it on the wart, and bury it. This works, because much of the
healing is psychosomatic.

A guy I knew had a wart on his knee, so he went to the college's health
center and they doused it with liquid nitrogen and put a bandage over
it. A few days later, the blister broke, and the liquid dribbled down
his leg, and you could see where it ran by the tiny new warts growing
along its path. :-(

Skip down and read the one that all in CAPITALS.
http://www.otan.us/webfarm/emailproject/warts.htm

Sheesh! I'm surprised moon rock dust and bat essence wasn't suggested as a
viable treatment.

 

[ChronoFish]

Scientific Frontiers (the Nova-like show on PBS by Scientific American)
recently showed using Lasers to remove tattoos. There was little to no pain
experience by the patient so I would think that a focused LED may be able to
provide similar results. It also proved useful for removing "gang
branding". The simple procedures were begin done in Boston.

I wasn't able to find links to what I think I saw (maybe it was a different
show) but How Stuff Works as quick blurb about it here.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/tattoo-removal4.htm



"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:boaq99$781$2$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk...

In sci.electronics.design nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:
I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared
LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

My first question would not be how to build it, but where is a
peer-reviewed
double-blind trial that shows positive benefits.

 

[Ian Stirling]

In sci.electronics.design Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, Dark Remover" <alondra101@hotmail.com> wrote:

In article <boaq99$781$2$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk>,
root@mauve.demon.co.uk mentioned...
In sci.electronics.design nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:
I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

My first question would not be how to build it, but where is a peer-reviewed
double-blind trial that shows positive benefits.

The article said that such studies had already been done. Even so,
plain old sunlight (in moderate doses) has been used for millenia to
help heal patients. Seems to me that these gizmos are just a way to
bring a facsimile of sunlight inside.

The articles "other links" at the bottom did not raise my expectations of
science accuracy from this publication.

 

[N. Thornton]

René <rjz@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:<927iqv4dt1jq3oj4ulil51kak2u1e2k4n6@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 04:24:40 -0500, nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

how bout a torch?

I remember a distant past where in many houshold a so called
"InfraPhil" lamp was present, basically a deep red incandescent
spotlight made by Philips. Was supposed to do good with backaches and
such.

Yes thats what I was thinking. Also there was the ultra violet lamp,
using a mercury discharge tube. Theyre good for sterilising stuff, and
no-one wants them. Just beware the hopelessly inadequate goggles.

BTW, glacial acetic acid is the best thing for warts.


Regards, NT

 

[Watson A.Name \"Watt Sun]

ChronoFish wrote:

Scientific Frontiers (the Nova-like show on PBS by Scientific American)

I watched Sci Am Frontiers the other night and they had none other than
Paul Horowitz, of AoE fame, plugging their SETI project where they
(Hahvahd) are looking for a planet with life.

recently showed using Lasers to remove tattoos. There was little to no pain
experience by the patient so I would think that a focused LED may be able to
provide similar results. It also proved useful for removing "gang
branding". The simple procedures were begin done in Boston.

I wasn't able to find links to what I think I saw (maybe it was a different
show) but How Stuff Works as quick blurb about it here.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/tattoo-removal4.htm

"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:boaq99$781$2$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk...

In sci.electronics.design nobody@nospamaccepted.no wrote:

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared

LED

light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

My first question would not be how to build it, but where is a

peer-reviewed

double-blind trial that shows positive benefits.

 

[Neil]

As a Canadian I feel that this must be said.
In the immortal words of Red Green........

"Duct Tape...is there anything it cant do?"

Kim

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

"Watson A.Name - Watt Sun, Dark Remover" wrote:

In article <mpfhqvkch6n2ok914eb1dcj5a7p1v10vr5@4ax.com>,
nobody@nospamaccepted.no mentioned...
I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60786,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

The principle looks pretty simple, you have one or more high output LED's
flashing at the 680-, 730- and 880-nanometer wavelength. Seems like
something that could be put together in kit form and sold for five or ten
bucks (unless those LED's are really expensive). So my question is, does
anyone know of available plans (or a kit) for something like this?

Treating the retina only needs a few LEDs, but treating a larger area
such as a patch of skin would require many, many LEDs, making it
expensive.

Seems that it would be easier to put a filter in front of sunlight and
expose the body to that filtered light. The filter would remove the
UV and light wavelengths to keep the patient from getting sunburned
and overheated. The light is free, a lot cheaper than IR LEDs.

I have an electric heating pad that works quite well.

I'd guess that an LED would be easier for applying IR to a retina,
although this isn't something I'd play around with without medical
supervision. The principles are probably similar. Warming an area up
increases local blood flow and speeds healing.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailtoaul@Hovnanian.com
note to spammers: a Washington State resident
------------------------------------------------------------------
Ban the bomb. Save the world for conventional warfare.

 

[Wim Ton]

I just wondered if there have been any plans published for an infrared LED
light healer such as is used by the military and NASA, and described in
this Wired magazine article:

Philips sells similar things for 40 years under the name Infraphil,
basically a lamp with a filter.

Wim