Debug advice Kenmore coldspot 106-59422801 stopped refrigera

In article <no5e0b$rs0$1@news.mixmin.net>, dannydiamico@yahoo.com
says...
Yet, the moment I opened up the bottom of the new Whirlpool fridge, a
Kenmore build sheet popped out.

The only thing different is the name plate.
Sigh.
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Have not checked into it in a long time, but isn't Kenmore just the name
put on by Sears as Sears does not really make anything ? They could be
made by anyone.

Whirlpool is the name of a company that actually makes things. They also
have the Roper (think that is the one) line that is an economy line.


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Danny D. wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 23:22:01 -0000 (UTC), Danny D. wrote:

Debugging advice requested.
I have never debugged a refrigerator in my life.
I never even looked at the back of one before.

2010 Sears Kenmore coldspot 106-59422801 refrigerator/freezer just
stopped working at the same time that a periodic "humming and then
clicking" noise started happening.

Inside temperature this morning was 59F degrees in the frig and 49F
in the freezer (outside temperature is about 70F).

Both dial settings are on cold (mid range) where they were always
left. There is no on/off switch that we know about.
Electricity is working (fan and lights are working).

Fan is blowing full time (dunno if it always did that).
http://i.cubeupload.com/dQOTKL.jpg

Coils are at room temperature and are dusty:
http://i.cubeupload.com/jgkVXv.jpg

Compressor may not be turning on (how can we tell)?
http://i.cubeupload.com/p2OiCZ.jpg

No reason to suspect icemaker water supply yet:
http://i.cubeupload.com/myOvgH.jpg

Top of compressor is hot to the touch but not so hot as to burn (but
pretty hot otherwise):
http://i.cubeupload.com/wAX37P.jpg

We hear a humming noise kick on every five minutes for about 10 or 20
seconds and then a click when it shuts off:
http://tinypic.com/r/e6abk7/9

The only things new are the humming noise, and the fact that the
refrigerator and freezer aren't working.

First aim is to figure out how this thing works.
I was expecting to see a "motor" for the black compressor "bulb" but
there is no motor I can see - but the top of the black compressor
"bulb" is hot to the touch - but the coils are not.

I think the solenoid at the compressor "bulb" is what is making the
noise. Any debugging advice?

To update this thread, I replaced the Kenmore with a Whirlpool long
ago. http://i.cubeupload.com/3yXHsM.jpg

When I opened the back of the Whirlpool, I was surprised to find a
Kenmore build sheet inside. Everything is almost exactly the same in
the Whirlpool as it was in the Kenmore, even down to the capacitor
and relay.

Even the shelves and wire racks were the same.

So Whirlpool *is* Kenmore and Kenmore is Whirlpool.
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NO. Kenmore makes NOTHING, Whirlpool, Samsung etc build for Kenmore and put
the Kenmore name on it.
 
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:25:36 -0500, ChairMan wrote:

NO. Kenmore makes NOTHING, Whirlpool, Samsung etc build for Kenmore and put
the Kenmore name on it.
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So that means kenmore is whirlpool but whirlpool is whirlpool.

Good to know.

I'll never buy *another* whirlpool/kenmore then.
:)
 
In article <no6dqb$tdu$1@news.mixmin.net>, dannydiamico@yahoo.com
says...
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:25:36 -0500, ChairMan wrote:

NO. Kenmore makes NOTHING, Whirlpool, Samsung etc build for Kenmore and put
the Kenmore name on it.

So that means kenmore is whirlpool but whirlpool is whirlpool.

Good to know.

I'll never buy *another* whirlpool/kenmore then.
:)
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It means that Kenmore could be almost anything, but a Whirlpool is
Whirlpool.

One other thing, sometimes the internal parts of a brand name may be
made by someone else. Sort of like years ago the way a Jeep was made.
You had to know the day of the year the Jeep was made to know who made
the actual parts for it.


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On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 3:32:39 PM UTC-4, Danny D. wrote:
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 22:34:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Many new units have dual systems. My Samsung keep each setting,
freezer, refrigerator, center drawer at the exact set temperature.

We wanted a KISS refrigerator, just as we want a KISS washing machine and
dryer.

I remember when I was in college, we used the washing machines and dryers
in the laundry room of the dorm, where they pretty much had a slot for
quarters and a button for on and off (and maybe a water temperature
settings).

We wanted a refrigerator that was simple.
The only rule was that we would NOT reward Kenmore by buying another
Kenmore for the rest of our lives. That's a principle thing.

However, because of the layout of the kitchen, we were stuck with the
side-by-side doors so we ended up with a frige of the same type as the old.

We never expected it to be *exactly* the same though, since we bought
online and had it delivered. So we didn't realize that it was exactly the
same until it was delivered, and even then, until I took the backplate off,
I hadn't realized everything was exactly the same inside also.

Sigh. Fooled me they did.
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No, they did not "fool" you. You made a fool of yourself if your goal was not to purchase a "Kenmore" machine. A simple google search would have told you who makes what.

http://www.appliance411.com/purchase/make.shtml

We purchase name-brand appliances from the makers whose actual name is on the faceplate. Kenmore is NOT one of those. Full Stop.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
Danny D. posted for all of us...


On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:25:36 -0500, ChairMan wrote:

NO. Kenmore makes NOTHING, Whirlpool, Samsung etc build for Kenmore and put
the Kenmore name on it.

So that means kenmore is whirlpool but whirlpool is whirlpool.

Good to know.

I'll never buy *another* whirlpool/kenmore then.
:)
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It used to be that IIRC the first three digits of the model number would
tell one the manufacturer. DAGS

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Tekkie
 
replying to Danny D., Mikeky32 wrote:
Well that's 20min of shit I wont get back..damn people, either take his
advice or dont, my pecker is the smallest, there, you win...
Wiring power to hard start 3in1 Kenmore elite upright off the main black and
white or after the control panel with the yellow and white which appears to
power fan also. Will only start compressor if I tie in both before on black
load + after on yellow load + HSa then both sides of neutral white+HSb. Kicks
compressor on , correct amps, hot but assuming heating oil. Has anyone had to
tie in power to a hard start like this before or am I missing a piece by
bypassing it?

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