Common Emitter Amplifier with 2N3904

[Rich Grise]

Please, for heaven's sakes, don't quit posting. In fact, your question
is very close to one that's almost been nagging at me, albeit I'm more
at the level of not knowing exactly what question to ask. I've got an
idea that I could build an NPN CE amp, for a mic preamp. But having
started out as a hobbyist, and educated as a technician, I tend to
"design" by the seat of my pants, as well as simply lifting other
people's designs and connecting the dots, so to speak.

So your question and the answers (once you learn which blockheads
to ignore) have been useful to me, as well.

And don't let the rantings of a blockhead or two dissuade you from
feeling welcome here, at least as far as I'm concerned. It is a public
forum, after all.

Cheers!
Rich

"Lily Bepant" <lily@masterz.com> wrote in message
news:40964975.0401141117.7eec1552@posting.google.com...

Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:<4003EE89.4060800@nospam.com>...

-Stuff deleted-
unique combination of (Ic,Vce) satisfying the external circuit I-V
requirements subject to the transistor Ic-Vce behavior for a fixed value
of base current Ib.
Thanks for the information.

You have been told time and again that your question is inadequate- but
you refuse to address that- because you are a troll. You do in fact know
a little about setting up DC bias points, and seeing NG responses
somewhat less articulate than the pabulum textbook you are using makes
you feel superior.

I didn't construct that question. It was what that is asked to me. For
the last time I'm repeating that electronics is NOT my major. (It's
Information Technology)
I learned how to set up DC bias points, from helpful people from this
newsgroup and from the real world. In fact it's you trolling this
newsgroup.

To all:
I have started this thread, and I see that it is disturbing REAL
people having REAL topics to discuss about electronics. I don't have
enough knowledge about this topic to give to this people, just take
from them. What I can only give are thanks for the advisories and
apologies for making rude people fire up for a simple question.
Therefore I will not post here again.

For the last time, thanks for the helpful replies and sorry for the
disturbance.

 

[John S. Dyson]

In article <7c584d27.0401151528.7c56b4a4@posting.google.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman) writes:

toor@iquest.net (John S. Dyson) wrote in message news:<bu6pjm$248i$2@news.iquest.net>...
In article <4005aec2.5506833@news.cis.dfn.de>,
john_c@tpg.com.au (John Crighton) writes:
On 13 Jan 2004 05:13:07 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
wrote:
snip

Our American members have a rather different perspective - they've
been trained in primary school to panic when they hear the word
socialism, and few ever recover enough to develop a rational approach
to politics.

snip

Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Hello Bill, Paul and the Group,
I am not going to get involved in personal slanging matches
between individuals, but your comment above, Bill, about
Americans "been trained in primary school to panic when
they hear the word socialism"

It isn't 'hearing' the word socialism that is so worrisome, but
the idiocy and idiots behind it.

Like I said, childhood training. You don't know a thing about
socialism,

Actually, I understand socialism, but similar to in YOUR case, I have

found that it isn't worthwhile to teach a pig to sing (teach you to
look beyond socialism and be open minded.) It will only make the
pig irritated, and the pig will never sing...

Basically, your doctorinaire attitudes aren't of any use or interest
to me. I am NOT anti-all-socialism, but only against the socialism
religion.

For open mindedness and liberalism, it is best to ignore the die-hard
national socialists and various modifications of those religious
type beliefs... Often these narrow minded national socialists (like you)
will uses excuses to deny their true beliefs -- but your obvious
doctorinare attitudes are quite clear.

So, basically, your just aren't interesting.

John

 

[bubba]

You got a diagram?


"Lily Bepant" <lily@masterz.com> wrote in message
news:40964975.0401101335.5478ae35@posting.google.com...

Hello,
I have been up to a question like this:
"Design a common emitter amplifier with an output impedance of 4.7Kohm
and a gain of -10 using 2N3904 powered by 12V DC power supply."

I got the pencil and paper started to design the thing. (I'm not an
electronics major)

I have jumped through many equations to find that: (I'm novice, so
don't assume that these are correct, please correct wherever possible)

Rc+Re=Vbb/Ic(max)

Ic(max).. I looked up 2N3904 manual and found that Ic(max) is 200 mA
for it. With 12V Vbb, it means Rc+Re= 60 Ohms. We want a gain of 10,
thus Rc/Re should be 10, which yields to the result that Re = 60/11 =
5.4 ohms Rc = 55 ohms (rounded these).

These values seem to be weird to me. What am I doing wrong?

Also, what would I take B (beta) of this thing? This is a design
question, therefore I understand that I should design something
independent of the B (beta) value. But how, when

R1+R2 = [(Vbb)]/[(10Ic)/B]

or not?
I'm interested in electronics but don't have enough knowledge on it.
Thanks for your guidance.

Best Regards,
Lily

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:12:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

Lily should post a drawing on A.B.S.E so that we can be of help.
Vagueness invites the village idiots.

What do you mean? I was able to answer her question without reference
to any diagram!
--

My opinion is worth what you've paid for it.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:18:13 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:



I think that's fundamental... self-confident males love smart,
assertive women.

Wienies like to demean women... they lack the guts to pick on anyone
else.

...Jim Thompson



Yeah, and speaking of weenies, what about Fred's promise to stop
posting?

========

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:08:36 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:


Right- these people like the pseudo-intellectual Burridge and
superficial Ian Bell who advocate abuse of people they consider "odd"-
is best handled by starving the public information pool. From now on- my
posts go the OPs return address- no more public contributions or discussion.


========


I knew it was too good to be true.

John

Right- you're thin as a worm and with about as much backbone. You don't
know much about women as I always suspected I know many intelligent
women who have made the mistake of marrying complete morons- and they
are demeaned beyond reason- and I am talking about women who are sharp
cookies- very competent business and professional people. Once again you
demonstrate yourself to be a superficial nerd. The OP in this thread was
a total fake- posting from Turkey- note the stark extremes between the
various writing styles in the responses- probably more than one person.
Why don't you go to Turkey!- take Lily out for dinner- you seem like the
kind of guy who prefers women with facial hair anyway- so it should be a
match.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Aubrey McIntosh wrote:

And I am angry. I am angry at you, I am angry at Bloggs, I am angry
at others. Why am I angry at you? Because you are letting a bully
drive you from a public place.

Let me see- I stated the OP was a troll, and challenged he/she/it to
expand the details of the question- and you call this bullying?!! HERE'S
THE DEAL- YOU, AUBREY McINTOSH- ARE A FRIGGIN MORON- YOU'RE ANOTHER PoS
WHO HAS ******NOTHING******** TO CONTRIBUTE- A BORING AND IGNORANT
ASPIRING ACADEMIC AND WELFARE RECIPIENT. TAKE YOUR TOTAL CRAP ABOUT
FRESH MINDS- WHICH YOU KNOW ***ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT*** AND GO TO
HELL!!! TOTAL FAKE AND WORTHLESS PARASITE THAT YOU ARE!!!!!!!!
Aren't you the mental midget working on that hex-inverter switching
regulator?- zzzzzzzzzzz- what a joke- but there's apparently no project
too small for an pseudo-intellectual.....Oh yeah, and get a job before
you call yourself a chemist, just having a degree from a diploma mill
doesn't qualify you for the title.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Larkin wrote:

Newsgroups provide an appealing forum for creeps who can otherwise not
attract or hold an audience, people that other sensible people walk
away from asap.

Right- and that statement is a good example of what you're about, a
self-serving elitist and superficial PoS looking to antagonize people.
You believe in absolutely NOTHING- you are totally unprincipled SOUTHERN
WHITE TRASH from Louisiana- not a credible background for your
PRETENSIONS. USENET would be better off without you, a career
plagiarizing hack- and quite dull.

 

[Bill Sloman]

toor@iquest.net (John S. Dyson) wrote in message news:<bu7oh0$2dlp$1@news.iquest.net>...

In article <7c584d27.0401151528.7c56b4a4@posting.google.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman) writes:
toor@iquest.net (John S. Dyson) wrote in message news:<bu6pjm$248i$2@news.iquest.net>...
In article <4005aec2.5506833@news.cis.dfn.de>,
john_c@tpg.com.au (John Crighton) writes:
On 13 Jan 2004 05:13:07 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
wrote:
snip

Our American members have a rather different perspective - they've
been trained in primary school to panic when they hear the word
socialism, and few ever recover enough to develop a rational approach
to politics.

snip

Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Hello Bill, Paul and the Group,
I am not going to get involved in personal slanging matches
between individuals, but your comment above, Bill, about
Americans "been trained in primary school to panic when
they hear the word socialism"

It isn't 'hearing' the word socialism that is so worrisome, but
the idiocy and idiots behind it.

Like I said, childhood training. You don't know a thing about
socialism,

Actually, I understand socialism, but similar to in YOUR case, I have
found that it isn't worthwhile to teach a pig to sing (teach you to
look beyond socialism and be open minded.) It will only make the
pig irritated, and the pig will never sing...

Basically, your doctorinaire attitudes aren't of any use or interest
to me. I am NOT anti-all-socialism, but only against the socialism
religion.

Like I said, pig-ignorant. Socialism isn't a religion - though there
are nit-wits around who will promote any -ism into a religion.

For open mindedness and liberalism, it is best to ignore the die-hard
national socialists and various modifications of those religious
type beliefs...

Like I said pig-ignorant. National Socialism was Hitler's name for his
political party, and in no sense an off-shoot of any of the various
flavours of socialism active in Europe at the time. Oddly enough, it
did have some features in common with organised religion, being
largely irrational nonsense.

Often these narrow minded national socialists (like you)
will uses excuses to deny their true beliefs -- but your obvious
doctorinare attitudes are quite clear.

There *are* national socialists around today - they are usually called
neo-nazi's. I'm not one of them, as would be obvious to anybody with
minimal political sensibility.

So, basically, you just aren't interesting.

You, on the other hand, are a pretty bizarre creep. Where do you get
your demented ideas? And how do you sustain them in the face of
universal incredulity?

-----
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<40071596.52AD9521@earthlink.net>...

"John S. Dyson" wrote:

In article <4005aec2.5506833@news.cis.dfn.de>,
john_c@tpg.com.au (John Crighton) writes:
On 13 Jan 2004 05:13:07 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
wrote:
snip

Our American members have a rather different perspective - they've
been trained in primary school to panic when they hear the word
socialism, and few ever recover enough to develop a rational approach
to politics.

snip

Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Hello Bill, Paul and the Group,
I am not going to get involved in personal slanging matches
between individuals, but your comment above, Bill, about
Americans "been trained in primary school to panic when
they hear the word socialism"

It isn't 'hearing' the word socialism that is so worrisome, but
the idiocy and idiots behind it.


I thought that was good,
very funny!

It is truly sad that the socialists are so provincial and limited
by their government-solves-all attitude.


It certainly sounds true to me when I read
the posts from some Americans on this newsgroups.
Where is my wee mate John Dyson?

Your vast superior, both in intellect and experience is right
here watching the socialist children play.

John

John, what do you expect out of a bunch of bleating sheep, waiting to
be fleeced? They are afraid to make decisions for themselves, because it
has been bread out of them. It takes real men to stand up for what you
believe. After all, men own guns, sheep don't.

I think you meant "bred" out of them. Not that your social-Darwinist
nonsense wouldn't be comic in it's own right, even if you could spell.

In the meantime, I can't wait for the moment when the NRA-deluded
"real men" of America take up their guns and form themselves into an
armed rabble to fight for the silly ideas they've been conned into
adopting.

They'd be mown down by any sort of well-regulated militia who had gone
to the trouble of training together, but the assembly (and consequent
disposal) of such a crowd of Darwin-Award winners would be great day
for the human race.

Hard on their wives and kids, but that's how evolution works.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

Paul Burridge <pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote in message news:<t83e001pl7usmco505vrav2knbg5cmptda@4ax.com>...

On 15 Jan 2004 10:52:29 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
wrote:

Paul Burridge <pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4cea00tp8dpmudchggcgc6vomp4kdj8nlc@4ax.com>...
On 13 Jan 2004 23:52:15 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
wrote:

I've been here a lot longer than you have, long enough to be aware
that Fred Bloggs does make useful contributions from time to time. As
far as I am concerned, as long as he does that, his rudeness and
hostility are tolerable ideosyncracies.

By their friends shall you know them...

I think he's been even ruder and more hostile to me than I've been to
you.
They may be some mutual respect involved but friendship sounds rather
too strong a word.

"Mutual respect"?? That says enough to me, Slowman. You'll be one of
the fist in the KF when I eventually get around to re-installing the
full version of Agent.

I presume you mean "first in the kill-file". Granting your technical
skills, this may take you some time. I get the impression that your
twig of the evolutionary tree hasn't fully mastered flint-knapping
yet.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:19:39 +0000, Paul Burridge
<pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:12:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


Lily should post a drawing on A.B.S.E so that we can be of help.
Vagueness invites the village idiots.

What do you mean? I was able to answer her question without reference
to any diagram!

"Answer"? Bwahahahahaha!

...Jim Thompson
--
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:18:51 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:18:13 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:



I think that's fundamental... self-confident males love smart,
assertive women.

Wienies like to demean women... they lack the guts to pick on anyone
else.

...Jim Thompson



Yeah, and speaking of weenies, what about Fred's promise to stop
posting?

========

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:08:36 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:


Right- these people like the pseudo-intellectual Burridge and
superficial Ian Bell who advocate abuse of people they consider "odd"-
is best handled by starving the public information pool. From now on- my
posts go the OPs return address- no more public contributions or discussion.


========


I knew it was too good to be true.

John


Right- you're thin as a worm and with about as much backbone. You don't
know much about women as I always suspected I know many intelligent
women who have made the mistake of marrying complete morons- and they
are demeaned beyond reason- and I am talking about women who are sharp
cookies- very competent business and professional people. Once again you
demonstrate yourself to be a superficial nerd. The OP in this thread was
a total fake- posting from Turkey- note the stark extremes between the
various writing styles in the responses- probably more than one person.
Why don't you go to Turkey!- take Lily out for dinner- you seem like the
kind of guy who prefers women with facial hair anyway- so it should be a
match.

Gee Fred, I think that I might be insulted if anything that you are
saying made any sense. Of course, it doesn't. You are turning into
Sloman, a sort of dumb, automatic insult machine, a cheap Asian
knockoff of a *good* insult machine.

But more to the point: why are you still posting, when you clearly
declared your determination to "starve the public information pool"?

I'd be delighted to chat some more, but, excuse me, I have to go stir
the grits. Mo and Liz love grits.

John

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Bill Sloman wrote:

Like I said, pig-ignorant. Socialism isn't a religion - though there
are nit-wits around who will promote any -ism into a religion.

-----
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Then why are you promoting it like a moonie in an airport, while
shaking your tambourine and chanting everyone how great your socialist
ideals are?

No, you're right. It isn't religion, it is a sick cult mentality for
the feeble minded who need someone else to make every decision for them.
HAve they told that its time for you to go to the bathroom yet? Your
eyes are turning brown again.

As far a ISM's, you are obviously a member of sheepism.


--
We now return you to our normally scheduled programming.

Take a look at this little cutie! ;-)
http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/photos.html

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Bill Sloman wrote:


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I hope I got that right, because I'm not another socialist eurosheep.


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We now return you to our normally scheduled programming.

Take a look at this little cutie! ;-)
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Larkin wrote:

Gee Fred, I think that I might be insulted if anything that you are
saying made any sense. Of course, it doesn't. You are turning into
Sloman, a sort of dumb, automatic insult machine, a cheap Asian
knockoff of a *good* insult machine.

But more to the point: why are you still posting, when you clearly
declared your determination to "starve the public information pool"?

I'd be delighted to chat some more, but, excuse me, I have to go stir
the grits. Mo and Liz love grits.

John

You may think you are being smart and clever- but you're not. I have you
pegged to a tee- a seriously defective, arrogant, and deranged
troublemaker. You most likely have scoliosis of the upper back from
tilting your head backwards and looking down your nose at people /all/
the time- I know exactly what you are and have dealt with your kind on
many an occasion, have no tolerance for your kind of gamesmanship, and
arrange a swift escort out of the area.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:45:44 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

You may think you are being smart and clever- but you're not. I have you
pegged to a tee- a seriously defective, arrogant, and deranged
troublemaker.

Not here! I save the smart and clever for when they matter.

Everybody is seriously defective; you have to be arrogant to design
the stuff I design; and I enjoy being deranged, and work at it.

Best Austrian accent: Trouuble Iss My Businesss. (Title of a Raymond
Chandler book, too.)

You most likely have scoliosis of the upper back from
tilting your head backwards and looking down your nose at people /all/
the time- I know exactly what you are and have dealt with your kind on
many an occasion, have no tolerance for your kind of gamesmanship, and
arrange a swift escort out of the area.

I think the real problem here is that we're having fun, and you
aren't.

John

 

[Ian Bell]

Rich Grise wrote:

Please, for heaven's sakes, don't quit posting. In fact, your question
is very close to one that's almost been nagging at me, albeit I'm more
at the level of not knowing exactly what question to ask. I've got an
idea that I could build an NPN CE amp, for a mic preamp. But having
started out as a hobbyist, and educated as a technician, I tend to
"design" by the seat of my pants, as well as simply lifting other
people's designs and connecting the dots, so to speak.

So your question and the answers (once you learn which blockheads
to ignore) have been useful to me, as well.

And don't let the rantings of a blockhead or two dissuade you from
feeling welcome here, at least as far as I'm concerned. It is a public
forum, after all.

Cheers!
Rich

"Lily Bepant" <lily@masterz.com> wrote in message
news:40964975.0401141117.7eec1552@posting.google.com...
Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:<4003EE89.4060800@nospam.com>...

-Stuff deleted-
unique combination of (Ic,Vce) satisfying the external circuit I-V
requirements subject to the transistor Ic-Vce behavior for a fixed
value of base current Ib.
Thanks for the information.

You have been told time and again that your question is inadequate- but
you refuse to address that- because you are a troll. You do in fact
know a little about setting up DC bias points, and seeing NG responses
somewhat less articulate than the pabulum textbook you are using makes
you feel superior.

I didn't construct that question. It was what that is asked to me. For
the last time I'm repeating that electronics is NOT my major. (It's
Information Technology)
I learned how to set up DC bias points, from helpful people from this
newsgroup and from the real world. In fact it's you trolling this
newsgroup.

To all:
I have started this thread, and I see that it is disturbing REAL
people having REAL topics to discuss about electronics. I don't have
enough knowledge about this topic to give to this people, just take
from them. What I can only give are thanks for the advisories and
apologies for making rude people fire up for a simple question.
Therefore I will not post here again.

For the last time, thanks for the helpful replies and sorry for the
disturbance.

I second that. Don't let people like Bloggs put you off. There's at least
one like him on every newsgroup. Ask away and we will do our best to help
you and hopefully nothing to offend you.

Ian

--
UKFS

 

[Ian Bell]

Fred Bloggs wrote:

John Larkin wrote:


Occasionally a woman will post to s.e.d., and invariably one or
another of the macho males here will go out of their way to make her
unwelcome.

John


Right - you're very typical of the ASCII-land chivalry types- in real
life you are hopelessly timid and would never risk the slightest
inconvenience- to include personal harm God forbid- to rescue any damsel
in distress. You're all ASCII and no action....

Much the same as you then. You certainly have a big mouth and precious
little else.

Ian
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UKFS

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote (in <7c584d27.0401160631.3bbc89c6@posting.google.com&gt about
'Common Emitter Amplifier with 2N3904', on Fri, 16 Jan 2004:

They'd be mown down by any sort of well-regulated militia who had gone
to the trouble of training together, but the assembly (and consequent
disposal) of such a crowd of Darwin-Award winners would be great day
for the human race.

It would be another 'Bloody Sunday' event, with all the dreadful long-
term ramifications.

Hard on their wives and kids, but that's how evolution works.

Is this a good Socialist attitude? I mean, I respect your political
orientation, even if I don't support it, but surely that is a denial of
your principles?
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[Bill Sloman]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4007FE44.861B92A8@earthlink.net>...

Bill Sloman wrote:


Like I said, pig-ignorant. Socialism isn't a religion - though there
are nit-wits around who will promote any -ism into a religion.

-----
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Then why are you promoting it like a moonie in an airport, while
shaking your tambourine and chanting everyone how great your socialist
ideals are?

Promoting it? Post right-wing nonsense and I'll be rude about it, and
you promptly think I'm a committed socialist.

No, you're right. It isn't religion, it is a sick cult mentality for
the feeble minded who need someone else to make every decision for them.
HAve they told that its time for you to go to the bathroom yet? Your
eyes are turning brown again.

Your brain-washing is showing. There are more sorts of socialists than
there are of protestants, and the one's I've met seem to spend most of
their time disagreeing about why their leader's decisions were wrong.
You seem to know about as much about socialism as does John S. Dyson,
but at least you don't claim to be an expert on the subject.

As far a ISM's, you are obviously a member of sheepism.

If you say so Michael.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen