CO detector (was Re: Mains power voltage drop to reduce usage?)...

On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 1:56:57 PM UTC-8, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:33:38 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 14/11/2022 01:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Please don\'t tell me you\'re as bad as one of my relatives who writes the
date she replaced the battery in a clock.

Useful if you want to know whether LR44 cells that cost £2 for 10 are
good value compared to ones that are £2 each.

Try NiMH. They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

Bad info there; they go dead by self-discharge in a few months, only with
multiple recharges do they last so long. A clock that\'s wrong every few
months is... much worse than one that works five or ten years on an alkaline C cell.
Keeping a note of battery insertion date would clear up this kind of confusion,
in a few months.
 
On 2022-11-17 01:07, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 1:56:57 PM UTC-8, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:33:38 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 14/11/2022 01:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Please don\'t tell me you\'re as bad as one of my relatives who writes the
date she replaced the battery in a clock.

Useful if you want to know whether LR44 cells that cost £2 for 10 are
good value compared to ones that are £2 each.

Try NiMH. They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

Bad info there; they go dead by self-discharge in a few months, only with
multiple recharges do they last so long. A clock that\'s wrong every few
months is... much worse than one that works five or ten years on an alkaline C cell.
Keeping a note of battery insertion date would clear up this kind of confusion,
in a few months.

:-D

--
Cheers, Carlos.
 
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:34:42 AM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:53:37 AM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:46:31 AM UTC-8, a a wrote:
11:36a
Elon Musk tells Twitter employees to put in ‘long hours at high intensity’ or take severance
His accountants tried to stop him from getting this tax shelter. However, he threatened to fire them. He said, quoting another famous preacher: I know better than those generals, scientists and accountants. I need to shelter my taxes.

His accountants explain: you excised you stock options at much lower price but higher market price. You sell you stocks at lower market price. Tax law says you have losses, not gains. You don\'t need another $44B tax shelter.

He said: i have other business to steal (sorry, to have tax advantages) from the Gov. One more word and you are fired.
\"Musk said in fact he does not want to be CEO of Tesla, and never wanted to be CEO of any company, while confirming his leadership of Twitter is only temporary.\"

He just want to be the \"whip\". Whip Employee Now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/16/elon-musk-says-he-doesnt-want-to-be-a-ceo-walks-back-sec-insults.html

PS: I don\'t have the Blue Verification Mark, but i am me and for real.

So, he is acting CEO of Twitter and unacting (trying to get out of) CEO of Tesla. Twitter costs 10 millions wage and 3 millions interest per day due to tough job of screening out people like you and me here. The Supreme Commanding Blue Bird is turning the company into free (speech) for all bulletin board, kind of like free usenet.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-tesla-ceo-job-broken-chief-hypocrisy-officer-2022-11

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/musks-all-nighters-twitter-raise-concern-tesla-investors-2022-11-15/
 
On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 12:56:16 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:34:42 AM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:53:37 AM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:46:31 AM UTC-8, a a wrote:
11:36a
Elon Musk tells Twitter employees to put in ‘long hours at high intensity’ or take severance
His accountants tried to stop him from getting this tax shelter. However, he threatened to fire them. He said, quoting another famous preacher: I know better than those generals, scientists and accountants. I need to shelter my taxes.

His accountants explain: you excised you stock options at much lower price but higher market price. You sell you stocks at lower market price. Tax law says you have losses, not gains. You don\'t need another $44B tax shelter.

He said: i have other business to steal (sorry, to have tax advantages) from the Gov. One more word and you are fired.
\"Musk said in fact he does not want to be CEO of Tesla, and never wanted to be CEO of any company, while confirming his leadership of Twitter is only temporary.\"

He just want to be the \"whip\". Whip Employee Now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/16/elon-musk-says-he-doesnt-want-to-be-a-ceo-walks-back-sec-insults.html

PS: I don\'t have the Blue Verification Mark, but i am me and for real.
So, he is acting CEO of Twitter and unacting (trying to get out of) CEO of Tesla. Twitter costs 10 millions wage and 3 millions interest per day due to tough job of screening out people like you and me here. The Supreme Commanding Blue Bird is turning the company into free (speech) for all bulletin board, kind of like free usenet.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-tesla-ceo-job-broken-chief-hypocrisy-officer-2022-11

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/musks-all-nighters-twitter-raise-concern-tesla-investors-2022-11-15/
Twitter collapsed and no chance to survive under Melon

Old chat technology is not attracting many today.

Melon is not technology man to save Twitter
 
On 11/18/2022 6:56 AM, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:34:42 AM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:53:37 AM UTC-8, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:46:31 AM UTC-8, a a wrote:
11:36a
Elon Musk tells Twitter employees to put in ‘long hours at high intensity’ or take severance
His accountants tried to stop him from getting this tax shelter. However, he threatened to fire them. He said, quoting another famous preacher: I know better than those generals, scientists and accountants. I need to shelter my taxes.

His accountants explain: you excised you stock options at much lower price but higher market price. You sell you stocks at lower market price. Tax law says you have losses, not gains. You don\'t need another $44B tax shelter.

He said: i have other business to steal (sorry, to have tax advantages) from the Gov. One more word and you are fired.
\"Musk said in fact he does not want to be CEO of Tesla, and never wanted to be CEO of any company, while confirming his leadership of Twitter is only temporary.\"

He just want to be the \"whip\". Whip Employee Now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/16/elon-musk-says-he-doesnt-want-to-be-a-ceo-walks-back-sec-insults.html

PS: I don\'t have the Blue Verification Mark, but i am me and for real.

So, he is acting CEO of Twitter and unacting (trying to get out of) CEO of Tesla. Twitter costs 10 millions wage and 3 millions interest per day due to tough job of screening out people like you and me here. The Supreme Commanding Blue Bird is turning the company into free (speech) for all bulletin board, kind of like free usenet.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-tesla-ceo-job-broken-chief-hypocrisy-officer-2022-11

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/musks-all-nighters-twitter-raise-concern-tesla-investors-2022-11-15/

Musk got it in his mind that most devs at Twitter were LAZY LIBS and
they were putting some secret LIB ALGORITHM in the code.

He\'s discovered that actually they were some of the top developers in
the US and whatever their politics are, they\'re not going to be pushed
around by this guy, lots of other companies will pay them them as well
as he would.
 
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:35:00 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 15:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:42:32 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Try NiMH. They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5. That\'s enough to make the LCD readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

I haven\'t seen a device that can\'t handle the lower voltage for about 15
years. And that was a mechanical clock. Fucking terrible on any kind
of battery, as it slowed down as the voltage changed.

This one doesn\'t:

https://www.ikea.com/es/en/p/klockis-clock-thermometer-alarm-timer-white-80277004/

The LCD becomes too faint.

Ikea ROTFPMSL!
 
On 2022-11-19 06:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:35:00 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 15:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:42:32 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Try NiMH.  They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5.  That\'s enough to make the LCD readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

I haven\'t seen a device that can\'t handle the lower voltage for about 15
years.  And that was a mechanical clock.  Fucking terrible on any kind
of battery, as it slowed down as the voltage changed.

This one doesn\'t:

https://www.ikea.com/es/en/p/klockis-clock-thermometer-alarm-timer-white-80277004/

The LCD becomes too faint.

Ikea ROTFPMSL!

At least it works.

The brand name weather station doesn\'t, and lights up the \"change
battery\" icon.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
 
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 12:49:28 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered

> At least it works.

Not as much as the troll\'s idiotic baits that he keeps setting out exactly
for senile idiots like you, you cretinous troll-feeding dumb spick!
 
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 11:49:28 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-19 06:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:35:00 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 15:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:42:32 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Try NiMH. They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5. That\'s enough to make the LCD readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

I haven\'t seen a device that can\'t handle the lower voltage for about 15
years. And that was a mechanical clock. Fucking terrible on any kind
of battery, as it slowed down as the voltage changed.

This one doesn\'t:

https://www.ikea.com/es/en/p/klockis-clock-thermometer-alarm-timer-white-80277004/

The LCD becomes too faint.

Ikea ROTFPMSL!

At least it works.

That\'s not working. Anything built in the last few decades should handle rechargeables.

> The brand name weather station

Which brand name?

doesn\'t, and lights up the \"change
battery\" icon.

I have a device which lights up a battery icon, I ignore it. Cheap shit freebie from a power company to monitor power usage.
 
On 2022-11-22 00:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 11:49:28 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-19 06:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:35:00 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 15:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:42:32 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Try NiMH.  They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low
consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a
charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as
the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5.  That\'s enough to make the LCD
readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it
triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

I haven\'t seen a device that can\'t handle the lower voltage for
about 15
years.  And that was a mechanical clock.  Fucking terrible on any kind
of battery, as it slowed down as the voltage changed.

This one doesn\'t:

https://www.ikea.com/es/en/p/klockis-clock-thermometer-alarm-timer-white-80277004/

The LCD becomes too faint.

Ikea ROTFPMSL!

At least it works.

That\'s not working.  Anything built in the last few decades should
handle rechargeables.

ROTFL

The brand name weather station

Which brand name?

doesn\'t, and lights up the \"change
battery\" icon.

I have a device which lights up a battery icon, I ignore it.  Cheap shit
freebie from a power company to monitor power usage.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 11:41:49 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-22 00:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 11:49:28 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-19 06:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:35:00 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 15:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:42:32 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Try NiMH. They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low
consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a
charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as
the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5. That\'s enough to make the LCD
readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it
triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

I haven\'t seen a device that can\'t handle the lower voltage for
about 15
years. And that was a mechanical clock. Fucking terrible on any kind
of battery, as it slowed down as the voltage changed.

This one doesn\'t:

https://www.ikea.com/es/en/p/klockis-clock-thermometer-alarm-timer-white-80277004/

The LCD becomes too faint.

Ikea ROTFPMSL!

At least it works.

That\'s not working. Anything built in the last few decades should
handle rechargeables.

ROTFL

Take it back under warranty.
 
On 2022-11-22 13:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 11:41:49 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-22 00:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 11:49:28 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-19 06:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:35:00 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 15:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:42:32 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Try NiMH.  They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low
consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a
charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as
the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5.  That\'s enough to make the LCD
readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it
triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

I haven\'t seen a device that can\'t handle the lower voltage for
about 15
years.  And that was a mechanical clock.  Fucking terrible on any
kind
of battery, as it slowed down as the voltage changed.

This one doesn\'t:

https://www.ikea.com/es/en/p/klockis-clock-thermometer-alarm-timer-white-80277004/

The LCD becomes too faint.

Ikea ROTFPMSL!

At least it works.

That\'s not working.  Anything built in the last few decades should
handle rechargeables.

ROTFL

Take it back under warranty.

ROTFL

--
Cheers, Carlos.
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 13:46:52 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-22 13:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 11:41:49 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-22 00:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 11:49:28 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-19 06:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:35:00 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 15:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:42:32 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Try NiMH. They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low
consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a
charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as
the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5. That\'s enough to make the LCD
readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it
triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

I haven\'t seen a device that can\'t handle the lower voltage for
about 15
years. And that was a mechanical clock. Fucking terrible on any
kind
of battery, as it slowed down as the voltage changed.

This one doesn\'t:

https://www.ikea.com/es/en/p/klockis-clock-thermometer-alarm-timer-white-80277004/

The LCD becomes too faint.

Ikea ROTFPMSL!

At least it works.

That\'s not working. Anything built in the last few decades should
handle rechargeables.

ROTFL

Take it back under warranty.

ROTFL

Why do you accept inferior shit?
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:41:49 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


That\'s not working.  Anything built in the last few decades should
handle rechargeables.

ROTFL

What are you laughing at, you troll-feeding senile dumb spick? At your or at
his idiocy?
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:46:52 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


Take it back under warranty.

ROTFL

You STILL don\'t realize what an asshole you are, you troll-feeding dumb
spick?
 
On 11/22/2022 5:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2022-11-22 13:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:

......

Take it back under warranty.

ROTFL

Conversations with Kinsey are a total waste of time/bandwidth.
 
On 2022-11-22 23:55, Bob F wrote:
On 11/22/2022 5:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2022-11-22 13:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:

.....


Take it back under warranty.

ROTFL


Conversations with Kinsey are a total waste of time/bandwidth.

True.

Eventually I tire out, when he is too silly.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 00:33:23 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered


Conversations with Kinsey are a total waste of time/bandwidth.

True.

Eventually I tire out, when he is too silly.

Nope, you twisted senile spick! HE will tire out eventually and leave you
alone in your misery again, with no troll to feed and no opportunity for you
to continue bullshitting endlessly! ;-)
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 22:55:47 -0000, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/22/2022 5:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2022-11-22 13:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Take it back under warranty.

ROTFL

Conversations with Kinsey are a total waste of time/bandwidth.

Then why waste your time reading them? You do know how to use a killfile, right?
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 23:33:23 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-22 23:55, Bob F wrote:
On 11/22/2022 5:46 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2022-11-22 13:21, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Take it back under warranty.

ROTFL


Conversations with Kinsey are a total waste of time/bandwidth.

True.

Eventually I tire out, when he is too silly.

No, you back down when you realise I\'m correct.
 

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