CO detector (was Re: Mains power voltage drop to reduce usage?)...

On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 20:36:26 -0800, John Larkin, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> They buy expensive skis and outfits and fall off chair lifts.

WTF has your shit got to do with any of the 3 ngs you keep crossposting it
to, you demented trolling senile shithead?
 
On Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:21:35 -0800, John Larkin, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> Uphill? Do people ski uphill?

YOU certainly shove your thick senile head way up the troll\'s arse, you
trolling senile shithead!
 
On 2022/11/11 5:43 p.m., Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 1:40:20 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/11/2022 1:18 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:46:07 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 11/10/2022 11:46 PM, Ricky wrote:

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

Right, libs are wussy conservatives, and want regular-conservatives to
like them enough so they can whine to them about health care like
\"Whyyyy you guys, like we could be friends and you could rule me all you
like if you just compromised with me on this\"

LOL I don\'t blame the wing nuts for not listening frankly - what a bunch
of wussies.

Wow, talk about someone being a caricature of himself!


Yes, I\'m not interested in compromising with Republicans! I want to burn
their whole world to ashes, and erase their party from history.

You are all wise so should control everything. Just kill anyone who
disagrees.

I\'m sure you design the best possible electronics too.

After you burn down their world, you won\'t have to eat any food grown
by republicans.

Who said anything about killing anyone? By \"burn their whole world to
ashes\" I mean \"It will be the law that I will be required to help pay
for the wing nut boomer\'s universal healthcare expenses in their old
age, and routine high quality and compassionate mental health treatment
for all Trump-cultists.\"

Fate worse than death, I suppose..

Please educate us which party wants universal free healthcare and free education (loan forgiveness). We will have >$1T deficit as far as we can see.
Click to expand...

I don\'t thin there is anything like free health care in any developed
country - here in Canada it is part of our taxes like other government
services such as roads, police, education...you know, the essentials for
a sane society.

John :-#)#
 
On 11/14/22 22:56, Flyguy wrote:
The US health system s remarkably ineffective at that, as you can
see fro the number Americans who are oveweight.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

This demonstrates the SHEAR IGNORANCE of Bozo better than ANYTHING
ELSE!! The healthcare system in the US doesn\'t make people drink
gallons of sugar water or eat barrels of ice cream or swallow tons of
greasy Big Macs - people do it gleefully ALL ON THEIR OWN! It is no
wonder why the MOST freezers in the grocery stores are devoted
exclusively to ICE CREAM!!!!

BTW Bozo, your spelling SUCKS!
Click to expand...

SHEAR wasn\'t the right word. You either don\'t know how it\'s spelled, or
chose the wrong word, or don\'t realize there are two.
Whichever, it\'s far worse than Sloman\'s typos.
 
On Wednesday, 9 November 2022 at 17:30:44 UTC, Martin Brown wrote:

The people with the biggest consuming kit in the 1960\'s were Prof
Pippard\'s group studying Fermi surfaces with a 2MW magnet and a direct
line to the national grid to warn them when they were about to switch it
on (always late at night when electricity prices were cheaper)!
Click to expand...

I went to his seminars in experimental physics. He was very keen on
gyroscopes!

John
 
On 11/12/2022 10:41 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

> Except emergency rooms. I overheard couple of homeless saying. Let\'s pretend to be sick and go to the emergency room. Nice free room and board for couple of days. Very expensive homeless shelter.

They must not have been in an emergency department, lately, if they
think they\'ll get anything like a hotel experience. Maybe you haven\'t
seen the inside of one lately, either..

Parked on a gurney in a hallway for two or three days is what you can
expect if you\'re sick enough to be admitted but not critically ill, much
less a \"room\", even at many suburban hospitals these days.

You\'d likely get better sleep on a quiet park bench.
 
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 10:01:08 PM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote:
On 2022/11/11 5:43 p.m., Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 1:40:20 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/11/2022 1:18 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:46:07 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 11/10/2022 11:46 PM, Ricky wrote:

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

Right, libs are wussy conservatives, and want regular-conservatives to
like them enough so they can whine to them about health care like
\"Whyyyy you guys, like we could be friends and you could rule me all you
like if you just compromised with me on this\"

LOL I don\'t blame the wing nuts for not listening frankly - what a bunch
of wussies.

Wow, talk about someone being a caricature of himself!


Yes, I\'m not interested in compromising with Republicans! I want to burn
their whole world to ashes, and erase their party from history.

You are all wise so should control everything. Just kill anyone who
disagrees.

I\'m sure you design the best possible electronics too.

After you burn down their world, you won\'t have to eat any food grown
by republicans.

Who said anything about killing anyone? By \"burn their whole world to
ashes\" I mean \"It will be the law that I will be required to help pay
for the wing nut boomer\'s universal healthcare expenses in their old
age, and routine high quality and compassionate mental health treatment
for all Trump-cultists.\"

Fate worse than death, I suppose..

Please educate us which party wants universal free healthcare and free education (loan forgiveness). We will have >$1T deficit as far as we can see.
I don\'t thin there is anything like free health care in any developed
country - here in Canada it is part of our taxes like other government
services such as roads, police, education...you know, the essentials for
a sane society.

John :-#)#
Click to expand...

Nothing is more expensive than something advertised as \"free.\"
 
On 11/12/2022 8:56 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

The law entitles everyone to emergency care.

Emergency care is designed to stop you dying on the spot. It isn\'t designed to get people cured from the the disorder that brought them in.
Click to expand...

Emergency departments in the US are pretty good at recognizing the
drug-addicted looking for drugs and they\'ll let them sweat it out in the
waiting room, dropped to the very end of the priority queue, hopping up
and down begging the lady behind the window \"Please..I\'m in pain..I\'m
dying here..I\'ve been here five hours...\" every 15 min making the other
patients waiting miserable, until one of three things happen, they get
really agitated/violent and are slammed to the ground by security and
taken to jail, they leave in frustration, or they collapse
 
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:05:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 10:01:08 PM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote:
On 2022/11/11 5:43 p.m., Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 1:40:20 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/11/2022 1:18 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:46:07 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 11/10/2022 11:46 PM, Ricky wrote:

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

Right, libs are wussy conservatives, and want regular-conservatives to
like them enough so they can whine to them about health care like
\"Whyyyy you guys, like we could be friends and you could rule me all you
like if you just compromised with me on this\"

LOL I don\'t blame the wing nuts for not listening frankly - what a bunch
of wussies.

Wow, talk about someone being a caricature of himself!


Yes, I\'m not interested in compromising with Republicans! I want to burn
their whole world to ashes, and erase their party from history.

You are all wise so should control everything. Just kill anyone who
disagrees.

I\'m sure you design the best possible electronics too.

After you burn down their world, you won\'t have to eat any food grown
by republicans.

Who said anything about killing anyone? By \"burn their whole world to
ashes\" I mean \"It will be the law that I will be required to help pay
for the wing nut boomer\'s universal healthcare expenses in their old
age, and routine high quality and compassionate mental health treatment
for all Trump-cultists.\"

Fate worse than death, I suppose..

Please educate us which party wants universal free healthcare and free education (loan forgiveness). We will have >$1T deficit as far as we can see.
I don\'t thin there is anything like free health care in any developed
country - here in Canada it is part of our taxes like other government
services such as roads, police, education...you know, the essentials for
a sane society.

Nothing is more expensive than something advertised as \"free.\"
Click to expand...

Doesn\'t apply to US health care which is roughly half again more expensive per head than that offered in other advanced industrial countries, while delivering a roughly five years poorer expectation of life.

As John Robertson says, nobody advertises universal health care as free. It\'s paid for with a tax - in my case a 2% levy on my income - but you don\'t getdenied care because you can\'t afford it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:27:53 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 11/12/2022 10:41 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

Except emergency rooms. I overheard couple of homeless saying. Let\'s pretend to be sick and go to the emergency room. Nice free room and board for couple of days. Very expensive homeless shelter.

They must not have been in an emergency department, lately, if they
think they\'ll get anything like a hotel experience. Maybe you haven\'t
seen the inside of one lately, either..

Parked on a gurney in a hallway for two or three days is what you can
expect if you\'re sick enough to be admitted but not critically ill, much
less a \"room\", even at many suburban hospitals these days.

You\'d likely get better sleep on a quiet park bench.
Click to expand...

I had a very nice visit to the ER at SF General, where the people were
great. I got three CT scans until they were happy with the images. I
have them around here somewhere. I traveled a lot back and forth for
the imaging and didn\'t see any gurneys parked in hallways.

Then I got a beautiful private room with a view for two days. Not bad
for a medicaire patient in a public hospital.

Zuckerberg\'s wife is an MD at SF General, so he bought the hospital
for her. It\'s the only major-trauma center in town.
 
On 2022-11-12 07:01, John Robertson wrote:
On 2022/11/11 5:43 p.m., Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 1:40:20 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/11/2022 1:18 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:46:07 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net
wrote:

On 11/10/2022 11:46 PM, Ricky wrote:

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their
opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

Right, libs are wussy conservatives, and want
regular-conservatives to like them enough so they can
whine to them about health care like \"Whyyyy you guys,
like we could be friends and you could rule me all you
like if you just compromised with me on this\"

LOL I don\'t blame the wing nuts for not listening frankly
- what a bunch of wussies.

Wow, talk about someone being a caricature of himself!


Yes, I\'m not interested in compromising with Republicans! I
want to burn their whole world to ashes, and erase their
party from history.

You are all wise so should control everything. Just kill anyone
who disagrees.

I\'m sure you design the best possible electronics too.

After you burn down their world, you won\'t have to eat any food
grown by republicans.

Who said anything about killing anyone? By \"burn their whole
world to ashes\" I mean \"It will be the law that I will be
required to help pay for the wing nut boomer\'s universal
healthcare expenses in their old age, and routine high quality
and compassionate mental health treatment for all
Trump-cultists.\"

Fate worse than death, I suppose..

Please educate us which party wants universal free healthcare and
free education (loan forgiveness). We will have >$1T deficit as
far as we can see.

I don\'t thin there is anything like free health care in any developed
country - here in Canada it is part of our taxes like other
government services such as roads, police, education...you know, the
essentials for a sane society.

John :-#)#
Click to expand...

Of course it isn\'t free in that sense. Of course it has to be paid
through some form of taxes, social security or obligatory insurance.
The point is that when you need medical help, you\'ll get it without
first having to jump through hoops to prove that you can afford it.

Jeroen Belleman
 
On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:42:53 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:27:53 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 11/12/2022 10:41 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

Except emergency rooms. I overheard couple of homeless saying. Let\'s pretend to be sick and go to the emergency room. Nice free room and board for couple of days. Very expensive homeless shelter.

They must not have been in an emergency department, lately, if they
think they\'ll get anything like a hotel experience. Maybe you haven\'t
seen the inside of one lately, either..

Parked on a gurney in a hallway for two or three days is what you can
expect if you\'re sick enough to be admitted but not critically ill, much
less a \"room\", even at many suburban hospitals these days.

You\'d likely get better sleep on a quiet park bench.

I had a very nice visit to the ER at SF General, where the people were
great. I got three CT scans until they were happy with the images. I
have them around here somewhere. I traveled a lot back and forth for
the imaging and didn\'t see any gurneys parked in hallways.

Then I got a beautiful private room with a view for two days. Not bad
for a medicaire patient in a public hospital.

Zuckerberg\'s wife is an MD at SF General, so he bought the hospital
for her. It\'s the only major-trauma center in town.
Click to expand...

Experiences differ depending on where you are. I recently accompanied my brother to the ER at the insistence of his PCP. Arrived around noon after we left the PCP\'s office. We had to wait in the \'over flow\' room. Four hrs after arrival they took my brother for blood sample urine sample, and vitals.. Six hours after that, he was seen by an ER doc and then told to wait in the waiting room till they determined if they had a bed for him. Three hours after that (we are up to 13 hrs) they \'found\' a bed for him in the hallway of the ER area. So as I leave through the ER at approximately 2AM, the waiting room looked like a homeless shelter. I asked the nurse what gives and she wryly said it is the poors\' health care system.....And this was in a hospital in the more \'upscale\' area of the city, which is close to the more undesirable parts of the city.
A day later they found a semiprivate room for him where he stayed for 2 days...and then at the insistence of one of the attendies and his PCP, he was moved to \'a better floor\' and a private room...
 
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:33:38 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 01:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 20:17:51 -0000, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 09:08:56 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:56:12 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 07:59:43 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

One can be asleep and stay that way. CO detectors do save lives..

The detectors themselves aren\'t very reliable, in they they tend to
false-alarm before their rated lifetime. Mine seem to last about 5
years. I think the operation is based on irrevsible chemical
reactions
that can be poisoned by other things.

I think that you are correct. Modern CO and smoke detectors are
required to brick themselves when a specified time in service is
exceeded, to force replacement.

The ones with a primary lithium battery and 10 year rated lifetimes
are great, but they don\'t seem to last for 10 years.

So far, I have not had this happen. I write the service date on the
bottom of the unit before installation, so I\'d know.

Wow, OCD or what?

Please don\'t tell me you\'re as bad as one of my relatives who writes the
date she replaced the battery in a clock.

Useful if you want to know whether LR44 cells that cost £2 for 10 are
good value compared to ones that are £2 each.

Try NiMH. They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as the
batteries last a year or more.
Click to expand...

But the rechargeables last 10 years.

* I used to have a charger that charged a single NiCad button cell. It
consisted of a resistor and a diode.
Click to expand...

Ah, I\'m not familiar with LR44. Only the AAA/AA/C/D series, PP3, and the CR series. Clocks (at least the proper ones with moving hands) are usually AA.

The cell fitted a Russian MW/LW personal radio that was 1\"x3/4\"x1/4\"**..
It used a thin-film integrated circuit with discreet transistors &c.

** Actually the tuning knob stuck out as it contained the tuning capacitor.
Click to expand...

Was it as heavy as my Fed 4? https://sovietcameras.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/FED-4-1.jpg
Yes, that\'s a solar panel for the manual light meter, no batteries required. You then adjusted some dials to match the light meter pointer with a sensible aperture and shutter speed, then made an adjustment for the slightly busted solar cell from dropping it earlier. Then realised the subject had wandered off.
 
On 2022-11-16 11:14, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:49:00 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 21:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:33:38 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 14/11/2022 01:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 20:17:51 -0000, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 09:08:56 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:56:12 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 07:59:43 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

One can be asleep and stay that way. CO detectors do save lives.

The detectors themselves aren\'t very reliable, in they they
tend to
false-alarm before their rated lifetime. Mine seem to last about 5
years. I think the operation is based on irrevsible chemical
reactions
that can be poisoned by other things.

I think that you are correct.  Modern CO and smoke detectors are
required to brick themselves when a specified time in service is
exceeded, to force replacement.

The ones with a primary lithium battery and 10 year rated lifetimes
are great, but they don\'t seem to last for 10 years.

So far, I have not had this happen.  I write the service date on the
bottom of the unit before installation, so I\'d know.

Wow, OCD or what?

Please don\'t tell me you\'re as bad as one of my relatives who
writes the
date she replaced the battery in a clock.

Useful if you want to know whether LR44 cells that cost £2 for 10 are
good value compared to ones that are £2 each.

Try NiMH.  They last 10 years no matter how quick it uses them.

I\'d need a charger for them*. And I only use them in low consumption
devices like clocks. I\'ve got rechargeable AAs and AAAs and a charger
for them, but I don\'t use them in things like remote controls as the
batteries last a year or more.

But the rechargeables last 10 years.
Click to expand...

At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5. That\'s enough to make the LCD readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim. On some devices, it triggers the
low battery warning.

I know, I use rechargeables.

--
Cheers, Carlos.
 
On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 12:42:32 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered


At a lower voltage: 1.2 vs 1.5. That\'s enough to make the LCD readout
of a clock nearly unreadable, too dim.
Click to expand...

It can\'t be as dim as you two demented blithering shitheads!
 
On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 1:28:02 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 11/12/2022 10:41 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

Except emergency rooms. I overheard couple of homeless saying. Let\'s pretend to be sick and go to the emergency room. Nice free room and board for couple of days. Very expensive homeless shelter.
They must not have been in an emergency department, lately, if they
think they\'ll get anything like a hotel experience. Maybe you haven\'t
seen the inside of one lately, either..

Parked on a gurney in a hallway for two or three days is what you can
expect if you\'re sick enough to be admitted but not critically ill, much
less a \"room\", even at many suburban hospitals these days.

You\'d likely get better sleep on a quiet park bench.
Click to expand...

Those were pandemic conditions, the hospital was swamped with lunatic anti-vaxxers sick with COVID.
 
On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:42:53 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:27:53 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 11/12/2022 10:41 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

Except emergency rooms. I overheard couple of homeless saying. Let\'s pretend to be sick and go to the emergency room. Nice free room and board for couple of days. Very expensive homeless shelter.

They must not have been in an emergency department, lately, if they
think they\'ll get anything like a hotel experience. Maybe you haven\'t
seen the inside of one lately, either..

Parked on a gurney in a hallway for two or three days is what you can
expect if you\'re sick enough to be admitted but not critically ill, much
less a \"room\", even at many suburban hospitals these days.

You\'d likely get better sleep on a quiet park bench.

I had a very nice visit to the ER at SF General, where the people were
great. I got three CT scans until they were happy with the images. I
have them around here somewhere. I traveled a lot back and forth for
the imaging and didn\'t see any gurneys parked in hallways.

Then I got a beautiful private room with a view for two days. Not bad
for a medicaire patient in a public hospital.

Zuckerberg\'s wife is an MD at SF General, so he bought the hospital
for her. It\'s the only major-trauma center in town.
Click to expand...

Is there some medical reason for requiring a private room? I think not. The hospitals need to go back to using large wards. If someone has a problem with that, they can go somewhere else. The hospital can increase their capacity 4x, which just might explain the private room allowance.
 
On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 00:49:59 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-14 22:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:49:38 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-14 02:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 20:17:51 -0000, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 09:08:56 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:56:12 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 07:59:43 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 15:24:49 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 11/11/2022 15:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:42:26 +0100, \"Carlos E.R.\"
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2022-11-11 12:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:58:57 -0000, Vir Campestris
vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 09/11/2022 12:08, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I don\'t have house heating. I heat a room at a time using a
butane
stove.

Carlos, I hope you have a CO detector? It doesn\'t take a lot
to go wrong
with a portable stove to produce poison gas.

I have one in my head, it\'s called getting a headache. I don\'t
waste
money on safety shit.

That\'s for CO2, fumes, and lack of O2, not abundance of CO.

The first symptom for CO is usually getting dead.

IME its a splitting headache and drowsiness.

One can be asleep and stay that way. CO detectors do save lives.

The detectors themselves aren\'t very reliable, in they they tend to
false-alarm before their rated lifetime. Mine seem to last about 5
years. I think the operation is based on irrevsible chemical
reactions
that can be poisoned by other things.

I think that you are correct. Modern CO and smoke detectors are
required to brick themselves when a specified time in service is
exceeded, to force replacement.

Joe Gwinn

The ones with a primary lithium battery and 10 year rated lifetimes
are great, but they don\'t seem to last for 10 years.

So far, I have not had this happen. I write the service date on the
bottom of the unit before installation, so I\'d know.

Wow, OCD or what?

Please don\'t tell me you\'re as bad as one of my relatives who writes the
date she replaced the battery in a clock.

I do.

Why? So you don\'t waste 20 cents on a new battery?

To know if that battery is better than others,
Click to expand...

Just read reviews. Alkaline is alkaline. NiMH and LiIon, shoddy workmanship galore - Panasonic 100% of what it says on the tin. Samsung 80%. Any Chinese shit like Trustfire or anything with the word fire in it, 20%. I\'ve tested all these by charging and discharging through a torch. Best to weigh the battery, when you get ripped off, they\'re much lighter!

or to know if the clock
is going bad. And because I like to do it.
Click to expand...

The clock is bad when it fails to keep time.
 
On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 5:43:28 PM UTC-5, three_jeeps wrote:
On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 2:42:53 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:27:53 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 11/12/2022 10:41 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

Except emergency rooms. I overheard couple of homeless saying. Let\'s pretend to be sick and go to the emergency room. Nice free room and board for couple of days. Very expensive homeless shelter.

They must not have been in an emergency department, lately, if they
think they\'ll get anything like a hotel experience. Maybe you haven\'t
seen the inside of one lately, either..

Parked on a gurney in a hallway for two or three days is what you can
expect if you\'re sick enough to be admitted but not critically ill, much
less a \"room\", even at many suburban hospitals these days.

You\'d likely get better sleep on a quiet park bench.

I had a very nice visit to the ER at SF General, where the people were
great. I got three CT scans until they were happy with the images. I
have them around here somewhere. I traveled a lot back and forth for
the imaging and didn\'t see any gurneys parked in hallways.

Then I got a beautiful private room with a view for two days. Not bad
for a medicaire patient in a public hospital.

Zuckerberg\'s wife is an MD at SF General, so he bought the hospital
for her. It\'s the only major-trauma center in town.
Experiences differ depending on where you are. I recently accompanied my brother to the ER at the insistence of his PCP. Arrived around noon after we left the PCP\'s office. We had to wait in the \'over flow\' room. Four hrs after arrival they took my brother for blood sample urine sample, and vitals.. Six hours after that, he was seen by an ER doc and then told to wait in the waiting room till they determined if they had a bed for him. Three hours after that (we are up to 13 hrs) they \'found\' a bed for him in the hallway of the ER area. So as I leave through the ER at approximately 2AM, the waiting room looked like a homeless shelter. I asked the nurse what gives and she wryly said it is the poors\' health care system.....And this was in a hospital in the more \'upscale\' area of the city, which is close to the more undesirable parts of the city.
A day later they found a semiprivate room for him where he stayed for 2 days...and then at the insistence of one of the attendies and his PCP, he was moved to \'a better floor\' and a private room...
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Floors are organized by the medical condition and required treatment of the patients, much of which requires specialized certification of the hospital staff to administer, as well as specialized instrumentation and equipment. It\'s most efficient to have that and the people all in one place. There\'s no such thing as a \'better\' floor. It\'s not a status symbol.
 
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:40:35 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:05:57 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 10:01:08 PM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote:
On 2022/11/11 5:43 p.m., Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 1:40:20 PM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/11/2022 1:18 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:46:07 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 11/10/2022 11:46 PM, Ricky wrote:

I don\'t hate Republicans. But I don\'t understand their opposition to healthcare. That\'s just nuts!

Right, libs are wussy conservatives, and want regular-conservatives to
like them enough so they can whine to them about health care like
\"Whyyyy you guys, like we could be friends and you could rule me all you
like if you just compromised with me on this\"

LOL I don\'t blame the wing nuts for not listening frankly - what a bunch
of wussies.

Wow, talk about someone being a caricature of himself!


Yes, I\'m not interested in compromising with Republicans! I want to burn
their whole world to ashes, and erase their party from history.

You are all wise so should control everything. Just kill anyone who
disagrees.

I\'m sure you design the best possible electronics too.

After you burn down their world, you won\'t have to eat any food grown
by republicans.

Who said anything about killing anyone? By \"burn their whole world to
ashes\" I mean \"It will be the law that I will be required to help pay
for the wing nut boomer\'s universal healthcare expenses in their old
age, and routine high quality and compassionate mental health treatment
for all Trump-cultists.\"

Fate worse than death, I suppose..

Please educate us which party wants universal free healthcare and free education (loan forgiveness). We will have >$1T deficit as far as we can see.
I don\'t thin there is anything like free health care in any developed
country - here in Canada it is part of our taxes like other government
services such as roads, police, education...you know, the essentials for
a sane society.

Nothing is more expensive than something advertised as \"free.\"
Doesn\'t apply to US health care which is roughly half again more expensive per head than that offered in other advanced industrial countries, while delivering a roughly five years poorer expectation of life.
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Care to explain what kind of miracle health care system is responsible for life expectancy? All you\'re talking about, but too dumb to realize, is the inhabitants of these other places adhere to less unhealthy lifestyles. Medicine cannot reverse a lifetime of self-destructive unhealthy behavior.

With the exception of possibly Germany, U.S. has the best health care system in the world.


As John Robertson says, nobody advertises universal health care as free. It\'s paid for with a tax - in my case a 2% levy on my income - but you don\'t getdenied care because you can\'t afford it.
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No one is denied health care in U.S.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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