Chip with simple program for Toy

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:23:36 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:

Richardson wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...


Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.

No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.

Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

Watts are Amps multiplied by Volts. Without changing the operating voltage the only way to get more power out is to increase the current.

That's one reason trucks use 24V instead of 12V ( nominal ).

Graham
And why cars now run 12 instad of 6 volts.
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 08:44:29 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:

On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:


"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...


Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.

No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.


Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.

No, power is NEVER measured in amps. Current is measured in amps.
Power is in Watts, Joules, Calories, BTUs or horsepower. (or volt-amps
or foot-lbs per unit time)
>>
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:48:41 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:44:28 -0400, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com
wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...

Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.
No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.

Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.


Much as I hate to agree with that troll, you *can* change the operating
voltage of an alternator pretty easily.

I didn't mean to imply that that was not possible, but in an
automotive environment, it is not desirable. Changing output voltage
(to a limited extent) can be as simply as implementing the external
voltage sense line found on many alternators, and sticking a diode in
series.

You don't want to do it while
it's in your car, but it's very easy when removed from your car and
driven by another prime mover.

But you still have to spin it at a couple thousand RPM, so they are
pretty difficult to use with wind turbines (a point that troll keeps
missing).

daestrom
With today's switch mode power supply technology there really is no
reason an alternator cannot produce higher voltage and have it
electronically converted to clean, regulated power of whatever voltage
is desired for battery charging and accessory power use.

That is already done on most hybrids.
 
<clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
news:gqas75htj33nj5lhc14ussro1m74bc5hnk@4ax.com...

[snip]

No, power is NEVER measured in amps. Current is measured in amps.
Power is in Watts, Joules, Calories, BTUs or horsepower. (or volt-amps
or foot-lbs per unit time)
When did the Joule, calorie, and BTU become a unit of power?

Bob
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== All google group posts are automatically deleted due to spam ==
 
"PeterDumb" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message news:tjsq7558gr8ddcp1d5ihl0po8jg24er11c@4ax.com...
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:


"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...


Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.

No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.


Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.

We're not talking about automotive generator, we are talking about WIND GENERATOR stupid. Look up there, see the word "Energy homwpower" You got a set of broken eyes or what?
 
"PeterDumb" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message news:tjsq7558gr8ddcp1d5ihl0po8jg24er11c@4ax.com...
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:


"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...


Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.

No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.


Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.


So to double 3000 Watts, is to multiply its output power by 2. i.,e 3000watt x 2 = 6000watt.
Amp is not the only thing to dictate output power, it has to go alone with sustainable voltage.

So you are going to double the voltage instead? Neat trick, should
work really well!


So with your stupid logic 3V X 300AMP = 900watt.

Well, for a moron you can do simple math. Too bad logic escapes you.

That's not even double output,

Double output of what?

that less than double don't you know Punk?



The windings have electrical resistance and the heating effect follows the
SQUARE of the current. In short, to double the output would generate FOUR times
more waste heat in the alyernator coils and they would burn out. That is, if
the rectifier diodes didn't pack up first !

This is very basic 'kiddy science'. You're a damn lunatic.

Graham

--
due to the hugely increased level of spam please make the obvious adjustment to
my email address



It's time for you to quick acting smart Eeyore (or Graham) because you aren't smart PUNK!!
You smell bad for many years, I know your history more than you know mine.


Bwa-ha-ha-ha... OK, try another troll.




Again power is not measured in AMP, but in WATT you stupid jerks, Give it up now suckers.
 
clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:23:36 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:



Richardson wrote:


"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...


Richardson wrote:


I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.

No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.

Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

Watts are Amps multiplied by Volts. Without changing the operating voltage the only way to get more power out is to increase the current.

That's one reason trucks use 24V instead of 12V ( nominal ).

Graham

And why cars now run 12 instad of 6 volts.
Actually, the voltage was raised to save on copper, weight and space.

Which is the reason, 48 volt electrical systems in car's was once a
subject and may still happen one day.
 
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message news:7ilr755v0ijpbdlrqjb2svjalo4dg186t1@4ax.com...
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:44:28 -0400, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com
wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...

Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.
No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.

Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.


Much as I hate to agree with that troll, you *can* change the operating
voltage of an alternator pretty easily.

I didn't mean to imply that that was not possible, but in an
automotive environment, it is not desirable. Changing output voltage
(to a limited extent) can be as simply as implementing the external
voltage sense line found on many alternators, and sticking a diode in
series.

You don't want to do it while
it's in your car, but it's very easy when removed from your car and
driven by another prime mover.

But you still have to spin it at a couple thousand RPM, so they are
pretty difficult to use with wind turbines (a point that troll keeps
missing).

daestrom


It's easy to call people trolls by the stupid American jerk who doesn't know shit about electronic or car's alternator. Even for a fixed voltage (14V) in automobile you are still wrong, Power is measured in AMP but in WATT no matter where in car or in your house of assholes. No wonder why you flunked comparing to other nation's education.

I admire the old American fathers, they are great and well educated but their youngsters are terrible.
 
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:47:16 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com>
wrote:


We're not talking about automotive generator,
we are talking about WIND GENERATOR stupid.
Look up there, see the word "Energy homwpower"
You got a set of broken eyes or what?
Where did get that from ?

Subject: Re: Hey do you know your car's alternator only outputs 7-10% while it's running?
This would strongly suggest that automotive generators are discussed.

From the cross posting list one might guess that this might also be
relevant to wind generators, since car parts are sometimes used in
miniature wind turbines.

Paul
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:56:38 -0400, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

And why cars now run 12 instad of 6 volts.
Actually, the voltage was raised to save on copper, weight and space.

Which is the reason, 48 volt electrical systems in car's was once a
subject and may still happen one day.
When was the 48 V system discussed ?

The 42 V (3 x 14 V) system was a hot debate subject in the beginning
of this century.

Paul
 
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7DC3BD.8FD637FD@notcoldmail.com...
daestrom wrote:

PeterD wrote:
"Richardson" <member@newsguy.com> > wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message
Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.
No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.

Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP >> but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.

Much as I hate to agree with that troll, you *can* change the operating
voltage of an alternator pretty easily. You don't want to do it while
it's in your car, but it's very easy when removed from your car and
driven by another prime mover.

But you still have to spin it at a couple thousand RPM, so they are
pretty difficult to use with wind turbines (a point that troll keeps
missing).

Youtube has some lovely clips of wind turbines self-destructing when the brake or feather mechanism designed to cope
with high winds fails.

Of course when it's made by junky American nerds.



Running at higher rpm may also exceed bearing ratings too, i.e. the alternator life will be drastically shorted. Try
revving your Chevy to 10,000 rpm for comparison !

Don't worry dumbass, you're the man of helucination, you will never see higher than 1200 RPM in a professioanl wind generators. Junky or tiny ones yes.


Graham
due to the hugely increased level of spam please make the obvious adjustment to my email address
 
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:...

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7DC3BD.8FD637FD@notcoldmail.com...
daestrom wrote:

PeterD wrote:
"Richardson" <member@newsguy.com> > wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message
Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.
No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.

Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP >> but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.

Much as I hate to agree with that troll, you *can* change the operating
voltage of an alternator pretty easily. You don't want to do it while
it's in your car, but it's very easy when removed from your car and
driven by another prime mover.

But you still have to spin it at a couple thousand RPM, so they are
pretty difficult to use with wind turbines (a point that troll keeps
missing).

Youtube has some lovely clips of wind turbines self-destructing when the brake or feather mechanism designed to cope
with high winds fails.

Of course when it's made by junky American nerds.



Running at higher rpm may also exceed bearing ratings too, i.e. the alternator life will be drastically shorted. Try
revving your Chevy to 10,000 rpm for comparison !

Don't worry dumbass, you're the man of hallucination, you will never see higher than 1200 RPM in a professioanl wind generators. Junky or tiny ones yes.


Graham
due to the hugely increased level of spam please make the obvious adjustment to my email address


Keep hallucinating....
 
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:59:04 -0700, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

Of course when it's made by junky American nerds.

What country are you from, retard boy?
 
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:59:04 -0700, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

you're the man of helucination,

Nicetry, richardson, you fucking retard.

The word is hallucination.
 
Richardson wrote:
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message news:7ilr755v0ijpbdlrqjb2svjalo4dg186t1@4ax.com...
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:44:28 -0400, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com
wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...
Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.
No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.
Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?
When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.

Much as I hate to agree with that troll, you *can* change the operating
voltage of an alternator pretty easily.
I didn't mean to imply that that was not possible, but in an
automotive environment, it is not desirable. Changing output voltage
(to a limited extent) can be as simply as implementing the external
voltage sense line found on many alternators, and sticking a diode in
series.

You don't want to do it while
it's in your car, but it's very easy when removed from your car and
driven by another prime mover.

But you still have to spin it at a couple thousand RPM, so they are
pretty difficult to use with wind turbines (a point that troll keeps
missing).

daestrom



It's easy to call people trolls by the stupid American jerk who doesn't know shit about electronic or car's alternator. Even for a fixed voltage (14V) in automobile you are still wrong, Power is measured in AMP but in WATT no matter where in car or in your house of assholes. No wonder why you flunked comparing to other nation's education.
You get so flustered you can't even write what you mean. "Power is
measured in AMP but in watt" ??? funny. I doubt that's what you meant,
but with you, one can never be sure.

If you keep the voltage fixed, you have to increase the current to get
more power, even a troll like you should agree to that. Unless you want
to shift the whole discussion to AC power transmission, but I don't
think you have the background to carry on a discussion about
torque-angles and power factor so we'll just keep to DC for your sake.

As to what I know about electrical machinery and electronics, you have
no idea what you're talking about. I was re-wiring motors and fixing
the regulators for the old-style DC generators for marine engines while
your mama was still wiping your poop of your butt.

daestrom
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:28:13 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

Youtube has some lovely clips of wind turbines self-destructing when the
brake or feather mechanism designed to cope with high winds fails.

Running at higher rpm may also exceed bearing ratings too, i.e. the
alternator life will be drastically shorted. Try revving your Chevy to
10,000 rpm for comparison !
A few months ago, California State route 58 was closed at Tehachapi
because of a runaway wind turbine. They are *big* ones there.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)
 
On Aug 8, 10:04 pm, Paul Keinanen <keina...@sci.fi> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:56:38 -0400, Jamie

jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

And why cars now run 12 instad of 6 volts.
Actually, the voltage was raised to save on copper, weight and space.

Which is the reason, 48 volt electrical systems in car's was once a
subject and may still happen one day.

When was the 48 V system discussed ?
The nominal 48V was really 56V. It was 4 nominal 12V batteries in
series.
There is still talk of it in the area of hybrid cars.

The 42 V (3 x 14 V) system was a hot debate subject in the beginning
of this century.

Paul
 
On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:26:12 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:59:04 -0700, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

Of course when it's made by junky American nerds.


What country are you from, retard boy?
Retard boy is from CA, clearly an Obama supporter.
 
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:49:37 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com>
wrote:

"PeterDumb" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message news:tjsq7558gr8ddcp1d5ihl0po8jg24er11c@4ax.com...
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:


"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...


Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.

No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.


Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.


So to double 3000 Watts, is to multiply its output power by 2. i.,e 3000watt x 2 = 6000watt.
Amp is not the only thing to dictate output power, it has to go alone with sustainable voltage.

So you are going to double the voltage instead? Neat trick, should
work really well!


So with your stupid logic 3V X 300AMP = 900watt.

Well, for a moron you can do simple math. Too bad logic escapes you.

That's not even double output,

Double output of what?

that less than double don't you know Punk?



The windings have electrical resistance and the heating effect follows the
SQUARE of the current. In short, to double the output would generate FOUR times
more waste heat in the alyernator coils and they would burn out. That is, if
the rectifier diodes didn't pack up first !

This is very basic 'kiddy science'. You're a damn lunatic.

Graham

--
due to the hugely increased level of spam please make the obvious adjustment to
my email address



It's time for you to quick acting smart Eeyore (or Graham) because you aren't smart PUNK!!
You smell bad for many years, I know your history more than you know mine.


Bwa-ha-ha-ha... OK, try another troll.


Again power is not measured in AMP, but in WATT you stupid jerks, Give it up now suckers.
Trolls are not measured in 'Richardsons' but they should be...
 
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:02:30 -0400, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:48:41 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:

On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:44:28 -0400, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com
wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:41:22 -0700, "Richardson" <member@newsguy.com
wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message news:4A7C4B7D.C9006A01@notcoldmail.com...

Richardson wrote:

I removed alternators off many vehicles over 50 times per month. Not even
single mistake have I made. I am giving you this tip for your own benefit.
Oh by the way any one of your idiots know how to double the power off your
Alternator? Let's say it's a 150amp alt, can you double its output? The
answer is Yes you can.
No you can't.

To double the output would require 300A output.

Where you get that from Asshole? Do you realize Power Output is not measured in AMP but in WATT?

When voltage is fixed (as an automotive alternator is) then power is
measured in amps, which are directly related to watts. Eeyore is 100%
right, and you're a complete spamming moron.


Much as I hate to agree with that troll, you *can* change the operating
voltage of an alternator pretty easily.

I didn't mean to imply that that was not possible, but in an
automotive environment, it is not desirable. Changing output voltage
(to a limited extent) can be as simply as implementing the external
voltage sense line found on many alternators, and sticking a diode in
series.

You don't want to do it while
it's in your car, but it's very easy when removed from your car and
driven by another prime mover.

But you still have to spin it at a couple thousand RPM, so they are
pretty difficult to use with wind turbines (a point that troll keeps
missing).

daestrom
With today's switch mode power supply technology there really is no
reason an alternator cannot produce higher voltage and have it
electronically converted to clean, regulated power of whatever voltage
is desired for battery charging and accessory power use.
Why add all that complexity when the field current can be varied?

And PM alternators can be shorted with an SCR or equivalent to limit
battery charging current.

John
 

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