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[Chuck Harris]

John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 11:57:45 -0700, Greg Pierce <trash.can@nospam.com
wrote:


As they say, gun control isn't about guns, it's about control.


It's about people being dead, instead of merely yelled at or bruised.

John

The largest mass murder that has ever occurred in the US was committed with
a jumbo jet. The second largest was committed with a bottle full of gasoline,
then, there was that truck full of fertilizer...

Knives, baseball bats, clubs, bricks, and fists have killed more people in
the US than guns ever will. Guns, however, have done an excellent job of
empowering the weak and allowing them to fend off violent attacks of all kinds...

And in warding off these attacks, most of the time, the gun is never even fired...
And when it is fired, it is usually with non fatal result.


-Chuck Harris

 

[Chuck Harris]

Jim Thompson wrote:

Maryland where? I'll be in Hagerstown, probably the week of October
10, for a family reunion.

...Jim Thompson

Damascus, just outside of Frederick.

-Chuck Harris

 

[tholen@antispam.ham, the]

tholen@antispam.ham wrote:

In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to
know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure

Don't lie.

 

[Roger Gt]

"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
news:40ebf984$0$3077$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
: -Chuck
:
: OBTW, the dozen or so states that have concealed carry permits
have
: all seen a marked reduction in violent crimes of all types.
They cases
: of permit holders misusing their guns has been so small as to be
: insignificant.

The number is 37 now! And growing.

 

[Roger Gt]

"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
news:40ebfd17$0$3073$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
:
: I think it would be more useful for you guys that believe so
: firmly in gun control to post signs in front of your houses
saying
:
: "This is a GUN FREE HOUSE"
: -Chuck
: The US is one of the only countries where more burglaries happen
: when houses ares empty, then when people are home. The burglars
: don't want to get shot!

This would certainly allow the criminals to only go where a
supporter lives for his /her booty! Save everyone a lot of worry
since the very people who wish to protect criminals would support
them! Seems fair!

 

[Roger Gt]

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:YCyzWvDxlA7AFwAe@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
: I read in sci.electronics.design that Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SPAM-
: harris@erols.com> wrote (in
<40ebf984$0$3077$61fed72c@news.rcn.com&gt
: about 'For All the Michael Moore Fans', on Wed, 7 Jul 2004:
:
: >OBTW, the dozen or so states that have concealed carry permits
have
: >all seen a marked reduction in violent crimes of all types.
They cases
: >of permit holders misusing their guns has been so small as to
be
: >insignificant.
:
: No doubt. This is the up-side of gun ownership. One of the
down-sides is
: that if a permit-owner does go mad, he/she often kills many
people, so
: it makes big news.

Not a problem, democrats and other gun control freaks are unable
to pass the simple competency test.

 

[Chuck Harris]

John Larkin wrote:

I'm sure neither of the suicides would have

happened sucessfully without a gun being handy.

I'm sure that you are wrong. Japan has the highest suicide rate in
the world... and no legal gun ownership. How *DO* they do it?

-Chuck Harris

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:47:36 GMT, "Roger Gt" <not@here.net> wrote:

BTW: with your sick attitude, how DID you survive?

By thinking. They died by not thinking.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:55:49 -0400, Chuck Harris
<cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

I'm sure neither of the suicides would have
happened sucessfully without a gun being handy.

I'm sure that you are wrong. Japan has the highest suicide rate in
the world... and no legal gun ownership. How *DO* they do it?

-Chuck Harris

Well, David probably wouldn't have been able to kill the senator with
his bare hands (the old fart was BIG) so the whole thing likely would
have ended up in shouting or scuffling.

There's no way we're going to change the gun situation in this
country, but if you have teenagers around the house, especially males,
keep the guns locked up.

John

 

[Chuck Harris]

John Larkin wrote:

I'm sure that you are wrong. Japan has the highest suicide rate in
the world... and no legal gun ownership. How *DO* they do it?

-Chuck Harris


Well, David probably wouldn't have been able to kill the senator with
his bare hands (the old fart was BIG) so the whole thing likely would
have ended up in shouting or scuffling.

A piddling swing with a baseball bat to his head would do the trick
just fine. We should outlaw baseball bats.

There's no way we're going to change the gun situation in this
country, but if you have teenagers around the house, especially males,
keep the guns locked up.

Or, you could teach your kids what guns are all about, and make them
competent. You could teach your kids that people don't come back from
being dead like they do in the movies. You could teach your kids moral
values. Nah! Too much like work! Go back to your TV.

-Chuck

 

[John Miller]

John Larkin wrote:

Well, David probably wouldn't have been able to kill the senator with
his bare hands (the old fart was BIG) so the whole thing likely would
have ended up in shouting or scuffling.

You seem to be conveniently overlooking edged weapons and clubs.

--
John Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

Give me a Plumber's friend the size of the Pittsburgh dome, and a place to
stand, and I will drain the world.

 

[Roger Gt]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com>
wrote in message
news:4teoe05eu378qq4kbnphe312pqu9ks9or8@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:55:49 -0400, Chuck Harris
: <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:
:
: >John Larkin wrote:
: > I'm sure neither of the suicides would have
: >> happened sucessfully without a gun being handy.

I notice you have a problem with the word "successfully" No
spelling checker?

: >I'm sure that you are wrong. Japan has the highest suicide
rate in
: >the world... and no legal gun ownership. How *DO* they do it?
: >-Chuck Harris
:
: Well, David probably wouldn't have been able to kill the senator
with
: his bare hands (the old fart was BIG) so the whole thing likely
would
: have ended up in shouting or scuffling.

I was taught in army hand to hand combat training that a persons
size is a disadvantage, and it is very easy to kill a person (or
dog) with your bare hands. I found it much easier to control my
temper after that revelation, knowing how to kill so easily may be
a problem if I was not in full control. It is too easy to kill
with any incidental weapon, like scissors, broomstick, hat pin or
ice pick, electric cord, or bare hands! A gun just makes it
easier to avoid being hurt yourself. Levels the playing field!

: There's no way we're going to change the gun situation in this
: country, but if you have teenagers around the house, especially
males,
: keep the guns locked up.
: John

Or teach them the proper way to handle guns like this country has
for 16 generations? I did, no problems, I am teaching my
grandchildren, also no problems! A friend used to teach Boyscouts
gun safety, none of them (Several hundreds) were ever involved in
an incident with a gun. To impart knowledge is a powerful weapon
against ignorance!

I belong to a historic re-enactment group, who fight in armor with
swords. No one has ever had more than a scratch due to the armor
shifting under impact during an attack with a two pound
"star-fire" fighting sword. Yet that same weapon could easily
behead a person with one swing. Knowing the proper manner to
handle a weapon makes it safe!

 

[Steve Sousa]

"Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast DOT net> wrote in message
news:v5OdnfwklLcm6nbdRVn_iw@comcast.com...

The problem here that you are overlooking is,
if they take MY guns away, that drug dealer
will still have his. He doesn't get them the

My understanding is:
In a life or dead situation, if you shot that dealer and live, you die
anyway. Am i wrong?

Greetings

Steve Sousa

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:24:35 -0400, Chuck Harris
<cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

I'm sure that you are wrong. Japan has the highest suicide rate in
the world... and no legal gun ownership. How *DO* they do it?

-Chuck Harris


Well, David probably wouldn't have been able to kill the senator with
his bare hands (the old fart was BIG) so the whole thing likely would
have ended up in shouting or scuffling.

A piddling swing with a baseball bat to his head would do the trick
just fine. We should outlaw baseball bats.

I can only cite my personal experience (since nobody will believe
statistics when they contradict his prejudices):

Two guys I knew, dead from self-inflicted gunshots

One murder by gunshot

Two killings of people I didn't know, on my block, when I lived across
from the Projects.

Zero murders/suicides by other means. Note zero murders/suicides in
households that had baseball bats, but no guns.

Zero examples of defense of home/hearth against intruders

Zero examples of defense of the Constitution against the ravages of
facist governments

One recent neighborhood domestic quarrel with gun, involving about 20
cops who locked down the neighborhood for about 2 hours. One arrest,
nobody got hurt.

There's no way we're going to change the gun situation in this
country, but if you have teenagers around the house, especially males,
keep the guns locked up.

Or, you could teach your kids what guns are all about, and make them
competent. You could teach your kids that people don't come back from
being dead like they do in the movies. You could teach your kids moral
values. Nah! Too much like work! Go back to your TV.

Kids sometimes get depressed; they outgrow it, if they live.

Of course your personal experiences may be different from mine. The
death rate by gun is only about 140 PPM per year in this country
(Japan is about 4) so it's unlikely that you or yours will ever be
involved in a gun death. For middle-class adults, cars are far more
dangerous.

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:23:06 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

[snip]

I can only cite my personal experience (since nobody will believe
statistics when they contradict his prejudices):

Two guys I knew, dead from self-inflicted gunshots

One murder by gunshot

Two killings of people I didn't know, on my block, when I lived across
from the Projects.

Zero murders/suicides by other means. Note zero murders/suicides in
households that had baseball bats, but no guns.

Zero examples of defense of home/hearth against intruders

Zero examples of defense of the Constitution against the ravages of
facist governments

One recent neighborhood domestic quarrel with gun, involving about 20
cops who locked down the neighborhood for about 2 hours. One arrest,
nobody got hurt.


There's no way we're going to change the gun situation in this
country, but if you have teenagers around the house, especially males,
keep the guns locked up.

Or, you could teach your kids what guns are all about, and make them
competent. You could teach your kids that people don't come back from
being dead like they do in the movies. You could teach your kids moral
values. Nah! Too much like work! Go back to your TV.

Kids sometimes get depressed; they outgrow it, if they live.

Of course your personal experiences may be different from mine. The
death rate by gun is only about 140 PPM per year in this country
(Japan is about 4) so it's unlikely that you or yours will ever be
involved in a gun death. For middle-class adults, cars are far more
dangerous.

John

At my old location I had a neighbor about a block away, took a swing
at his wife, but she ducked and his arm went thru a glass window...
bled to death before the next-door neighbor (a doctor) could do
anything.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Roger Gt]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com>
wrote in message
news:0gioe0prsrjm47uu6dpem20c6kf2vhp71t@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:24:35 -0400, Chuck Harris
: <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:
:
: >John Larkin wrote:
: >>>I'm sure that you are wrong. Japan has the highest suicide
rate in
: >>>the world... and no legal gun ownership. How *DO* they do
it?
: >>>-Chuck Harris
: >> Well, David probably wouldn't have been able to kill the
senator with
: >> his bare hands (the old fart was BIG) so the whole thing
likely would
: >> have ended up in shouting or scuffling.
: >A piddling swing with a baseball bat to his head would do the
trick
: >just fine. We should outlaw baseball bats.
:
: I can only cite my personal experience (since nobody will
believe
: statistics when they contradict his prejudices):
: Two guys I knew, dead from self-inflicted gunshots
:
: One murder by gunshot
:
: Two killings of people I didn't know, on my block, when I lived
across
: from the Projects.

So you lived in a bad area and so everyone should be punished and
loose their rights because it upset you? Gat real, see a shrink!

: Zero murders/suicides by other means. Note zero murders/suicides
in
: households that had baseball bats, but no guns.

How would you know? Many are not reported in the media!

: Zero examples of defense of home/hearth against intruders

Again, you have the media filtering what you hear and they tend to
favor gun control so they only report when it sounds like
something that will put the spin on the story they want you to
swallow!

: Zero examples of defense of the Constitution against the ravages
of
: facist governments (fascist?)

ONE! We don't have one YET! Unlikely as long as those who want
it know the possibly for their future!

: One recent neighborhood domestic quarrel with gun, involving
about 20
: cops who locked down the neighborhood for about 2 hours. One
arrest,
: nobody got hurt.

Over reactions are common.

: >> There's no way we're going to change the gun situation in
this
: >> country, but if you have teenagers around the house,
especially males,
: >> keep the guns locked up.
: >
: >Or, you could teach your kids what guns are all about, and make
them
: >competent. You could teach your kids that people don't come
back from
: >being dead like they do in the movies. You could teach your
kids moral
: >values. Nah! Too much like work! Go back to your TV.
:
: Kids sometimes get depressed; they outgrow it, if they live.

Everyone gets depressed, face it the future under a democrat in
the white house is pretty grim.

: Of course your personal experiences may be different from mine.
The
: death rate by gun is only about 140 PPM per year in this country
: (Japan is about 4) so it's unlikely that you or yours will ever
be
: involved in a gun death. For middle-class adults, cars are far
more
: dangerous.
: John

So with no guns they manage to have a 4PPM rate? How cleaver! How
unrelated!

Where I live there has been only one murder in thirty-three years,
with a butcher knife! Few incidences of violence, but you
understand that 60% or the home owners had guns and know how to
use them! Including the fourteen police officers that live in the
near neighborhoods.

 

[Roger Gt]

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:ghjoe0d8f99kanl3vf2jlgioqptgc2fu0r@4ax.com...
:
: At my old location I had a neighbor about a block away, took a
swing
: at his wife, but she ducked and his arm went thru a glass
window...
: bled to death before the next-door neighbor (a doctor) could do
: anything.
: ...Jim Thompson


I had forgotten until I read this, I had a neighbor who put his
hand in an edger. I heard him pleading for the next door neighbor
to take him to the emergency room. He refused! I ran down and
got his hand wrapped in a towel and drove him to the local
emergency room. He recovered, the damage was mostly reparable.
Learned that the next door neighbor wouldn't drive him for help
because his two sons had been arrested for selling drugs to an
undercover agent at the high school. They got long terms in
prison, but the man didn't deserve to bleed to death!

Roger Gt.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:50:29 GMT, "Robert C Monsen"
<rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:

[snip]

If that is what you are saying, then I would counter on two fronts.
First, my belief is that private gun ownership does not, in fact,
deter crime. Neighborhoods with more guns are subject to more crime.
If gun ownership prevented crime, that would probably not be true.

[snip]

Bob Monsen

Please cite some *facts*/*references* to support your statements
above.

There is a town (in Georgia if I remember correctly) that *requires*
every citizen to own a gun. Result, burglaries went virtually to
zero.

Here, in Phoenix, where it's legal to carry, even without a permit, if
the gun is visible, have a **much** lower crime rate than New York
City, where guns are theoretically banned.

Now we do suffer from an occasional gun battle amongst "illegals",
but, to my mind, they're expendable anyway ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

In <KtzOktXgTH0IFE839B05yjyYfn60Q4Yj@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism>, "tholen@antispam.ham, the keeper of the pantry" <F25V27FGdUgr@alt.binaries.erotica.voyeurism> writes:

In <ZUNLxORqMAOxC7A15C46NyaGWoDFumLL@alt.sex.escorts.ads>,
"tholen@antispam.ham, the defective, ascertaining hog"
CnyEr8bHZoZV@alt.sex.escorts.ads> writes:

chrisv writes:

How ironic, coming from someone who isn't educated enough to
know that OS/2, out of the box, supports security and
multiple processors.

How ironic, coming from tholen.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

t h o l e n

Classic evasion.

How ironic.

Where is the alleged irony, chrisv?

Tholen!

Classic evasion.

No, you stupid fuck. "Tholen!" is the irony. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

For someone faking such an identity, I'm sure

Don't lie.

How ironic, coming from someone who just truncated my previous response,
while using a fake identity.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:28:00 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

At my old location I had a neighbor about a block away, took a swing
at his wife, but she ducked and his arm went thru a glass window...
bled to death before the next-door neighbor (a doctor) could do
anything.

...Jim Thompson

Doesn't sound like she was in any great rush to apply a tourniquet.
Serves him right, beating up on women. Or windows. Whatever.

John