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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:27:44 -0800 (PST), bill.sloman@ieee.org
wrote:

On Jan 26, 2:08 am, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:36:13 -0800 (PST), bill.slo...@ieee.org
wrote:

On Jan 25, 6:08 pm, mad.scientist...@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in building a "selector" gadget for devices that take
jumpers
to select a program, such as this game cartridge where you have 5
jumpers
to select program #0-31 (the jumpers represent the binary number):

snip

Why don't you just use a rotary switch which opens and closes four
outputs. You can get binary coded decimal or hexadecimal - if you use
a hex switch your users have to understand the the sequence
0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B.D,E,F.

---
What, no "C"? ;)
---

Oops. That should have been 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F. Sorry.

Farnell stocks both kinds of switch in a variety of formats, and there
must be other broad-line distributors who cater to the segment of the
market.

It's a lot easier and cheaper than programming a PIVC and wiring up 7-
segment displays.

---
You still have to wire up seven-segment displays, and you still have
to wire up them up to BCD to seven-segment decoder-drivers, and you
have to wire the inputs of the decoder-drivers to pulled-up or
pulled-down switch contacts, so the only advantage is not having to
use logic to drive the decoder inputs.

Hexadecimal rotary switches have a pointer on the rotating bit which
points to the appropriate number out of the 16 printed on the front of
the part - you see the numbers and the pointer by virtue of the light
reflected from them.
---
Not always, and why are you going on about a 16 state hexadecimal
switch which can only switch between 16 channels when the OP said
he's looking for a BCD display and the ability to switch between 32
channels?

You do know how BCD works, don't you?
---

Wasting time and effort duplicating this with a
seven segment display may play well in Texas, but in areas where
congenital stupidity is not part of the birthright it would be seen as
a bit odd.
---
Well, since I wasn't born in Texas that little tirade doesn't apply
to me, so I guess your bashing is just you venting your resentment
at Texans in general because of your being supported by the
doctorate that your wife took (and the rules she had to follow in
order to win it) at the University of Texas.

Besides, the OP stated that he wanted to use seven-segment displays
so, unlike you, who wants to shove his "solutions" down everybody's
throats I prefer to give 'em what they ask for.

If he wants to use an UP/DOWN pushbutton scheme, or a pot and an
ADC, that's fine with me and I enjoy the exercise of executing the
design, while it seems all you enjoy is trying to execute the
designer.
---

Which, when you look at the price of BCD encoded rotary switches
turns out to be a serious _dis_ advantage.

You can pay of the order of $20 (if the U.S. dollar hasn't completely
collapsed since I looked at this evening paper) for a fancy
hexadecimal switch intended to end up on the front panel of
"professional" gear, or you can pay a couple of dollars for a part in
a dual-in-line package intended to be soldered into a board.
---
Ah, but if the application calls for a front panel, then the panel
mounted rotary switch (or the ON/OFF pushbuttons, or the pot and
ADC, or the rotary encoder, or thumbwheel switches, etc, etc.) could
be used to good advantage, especially if the front panel was
screened with numerical switch position/channel legends.
---

Even Texas now has minimum wage legislation, so spending a couple of
hours wiring up several unnecessary seven segment display would chew
up rather more money than you'd need to spend even on a professional
rotary switch.
---
Several hours???

I guess you've never heard of PCB mount seven-segment displays.
---


Go to:

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Cat=1114210

and filter on "BCD" and "Panel Mount" for a shock.

My Digi-Key paper catalogue offers RTE DIL parts for around $3.00 each
- the catalogue does date back before the last Republican assault on
the U.S. economy, so current prices may be higher.
---
You really do have trouble staying on track and you never miss a
chance to spew vitriol, do you?
---

I'm sure that there are cheaper versions out there, but If I was
going to do it that way I'd use a cheap mechanical quadrature shaft
encoder.

And a couple of expensive 7-segment displays to tell you how far you'd
rotated the shaft?
---
And in which direction. Of course, if that's what the client
wanted. You, however, would deride your client's wishes and insist
on doing it your way, and in the process lose friend and fee.

Fucking myopic idiot, you are.


--
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On Nov 9, 12:19 pm, mad.scientist...@gmail.com wrote:
Can anyone explain how to (or where to find instructions) build an
accurate linear slide potentiometer of 100k, 150k or 1M ohm? I am
looking to make one with a physical length would be from 2" to 10". I
have seen little exercises where you can draw a pencil line on paper
and connect electrodes to it, and it acts as a resistor, so I am
thinking that building a slide pot might be possible with the right
materials. Any info appreciated...
http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Panasonic/Web%20Photos/New%20Photos/EVB-NC2P088BL.jpg

Or just buy one. Take it apart. Mail the parts to yourself and start
building it!
 
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:08:53 -0800 (PST), mad.scientist.jr@gmail.com
wrote:

I am interested in building a "selector" gadget for devices that take
jumpers
to select a program, such as this game cartridge where you have 5
jumpers
to select program #0-31 (the jumpers represent the binary number):

http://www.retroblast.com/Misc/Vectrex.php
http://www.retroblast.com/images/stories/Image/rb_archive/photos/vectrex/Vectrex_Review%20(4).JPG
http://www.retroblast.com/images/stories/Image/rb_archive/photos/vectrex/Vectrex_Review%20(12).JPG

The selector would have two 7-segment LEDs that display the currently
selected program number (0-31), and a couple pushbuttons (+/-) that
let you
increase/decrease the program #. The device translates the number
into
binary and turns on/off the appropriate switches or relays which are
attached to the jumpers on the device (ie the above game cartridge).
---
If you want to do it in hardware you could use a couple of 74XX193's
feeding an EEPROM with a lookup table burned into it as described
below.

You'd also want to decode 32 and 128 (overflow for your setup and
underflow for the counter) and use those decodes to generate a reset
pulse which would send the counter and the displays back to zero.
---

Or I would even like to build a kind of analog to digital converter
device which has a potentiometer (for example 100k) which gets
translated
into an 8-bit number (0-255) and 8 switches get opened/closed that
represent the value of the pot. Adding three 7-segment LEDs to
display
the current value in decimal would be cool and then it could be used
as a "selector" as well.
---
Bad idea.

If you want a resolution of one part in 255 out of a single turn pot
with a rotation angle of (say) 330° degrees from stop-to-stop that
translates into a granularity of about 1.3°, which means you'd be
hard-pressed to select one value out of 255 (if only because of
stiction) no matter how much you diddled the pot.

However, if you used only the 5 MSBs, that's 330°/31 steps, which
will get you 10.6° per step, which is eminently doable.

The displays are easy, too, since all you need to do is program an
EPROM with the following truth table:

ADDRESS | BCD DATA | DISPLAY
----------|-----------|---------
0000000 0000 0000 00
0000001 0000 0001 01
0000010 0000 0010 02
0000011 0000 0011 03
0000100 0000 0100 04
0000101 0000 0101 05
0000110 0000 0110 06
0000111 0000 0111 07
0001000 0000 1000 08
0001001 0000 1001 09
0001010 0001 0000 10
0001011 0001 0001 11
0001100 0001 0010 12
0001101 0001 0011 13
0001110 0001 0100 14
0001111 0001 0101 15
0010000 0001 0110 16
0010001 0001 0111 17
0010010 0001 1000 18
0010011 0001 1001 19
0010100 0010 0000 20
0010101 0010 0001 21
0010110 0010 0010 22
0010111 0010 0011 23
0011000 0010 0100 24
0011001 0010 0101 25
0011010 0010 0110 26
0011011 0000 0111 27
0011100 0000 1000 28
0011101 0000 0001 29
0011110 0011 0000 30
0011111 0011 0001 31

and then connect the outputs to a couple of BCD to seven-segment
decoder-drivers.
---

Does anyone know of any plans or schematics out on the Web to
construct
something like these? (For now I just wire switches to the jumpers.)
---
I don't, but if you're really serious about building something I can
post a couple of schematics for you some time next week.

Interested?


--
JF
 
Roger Hamlett wrote:

"Don McKenzie" <look@mysig.com> wrote in message
news:4676c491$0$24918$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Boki wrote:


Hi All,

I am connecting to Nokia phone, due to its output is only USB signal,
even it can emulate com port at PC side, however, it need USB host
( and driver )

I am implementing on embedded system, I believe you know what I need.

Could you please adivce the sutible chip for me ?

I want as cheap as possible.


Best regards,
Boki.

I doubt that this wil do the job for you regards a phone, but have a
look through the dats sheets and specs, it may help.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16654
also:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16620

Don...

These are complete 'built' assemblies, based on the Vinculum chip, which
will do what he wants (the phone is only seen by the PC as a 'comm'
device).
Hi Roger,
second one I listed is the chip itself, and the first one, the module, I
gave as an example for him, to enable him to understand what is required.

However the chip alone, is about 1/3rd the price, and he has
already asked for something cheaper!...
yes I know, and I listed the IC, but won't if cost him more than the
price of a chip, and devise a means of somehow hooking up to an IC and
I/O connectors, and get it running?

reality is, for a one off, you would be lucky to do it cheaper, let
alone the time involved it getting it all running.

But if he can, fine! :)

I gave him all the options to look at in the Vinculum family, and make a
judgement based on having the info at his fingertips.

Cheers Don...


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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:31:31 GMT, Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net>
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Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in
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who writes things worth reading despite his invective, you don't because
unlike him, you don't have the clarity needed to stick to the point.

Fuck you, LostGalliRetard. Go find a tall bridge, you retarded twit.
 
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life and small fottprint.

Can anyone recommend any device that fits these requirements ?
 
my 8031 board is essentially a romless 8051 (minus program
memory as datasheet says) .

the board has an external ROM chip for 8031 to read.

can one sub an 8051 with on chip ROM that is null **with out
worries**
my concern would be the 8051 on chip ROM conflicting with the
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and of course how likely to copy external ROM to the 8051 on chip
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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-= why won't. the British police do their job and put a stop to it? -=
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The British police obviously do know what is taking place.. Besides my
interpretations of what individual officers have said which forces. that
conclusion,. it would be inconceivable for them to be unaware of something
on this. scale.

If they know,. then they will know that the abusers have broken laws in the
UK and abroad. Recently the UK introduced laws. against electronic spying
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illegal harassment is taking place, and do nothing. about it, then they are
failing in their. responsibilities.

Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station. in London and spoke
to an officer about the harassment. against me. But I couldn't provide
tangible. evidence; what people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond
proof, and without something to support my statements I. cannot expect a
police officer to take. the complaint seriously.

The current situation with regard to the police is. not one which allows a
breakthrough in. dealing with the problem. On the one hand, most individual
officers. at a local police station may not know about the ongoing assaults,
so a complaint at that level will not yield results.. Yet the police as an
organisation do know. of the harassment, and they must be aware that a
complaint has been made at a. police station. So it is clearly their duty to
take preventative action against the. continuing molestation, but because
the criminals are operating on behalf of. a state agency, the police are not
carrying out. their duty.

585
 
Thank you !. yes, Alp have taper C.I never know that taper C is inverse
log pot.


Oyek

Eeyore wrote:
Michael Black wrote:

Eeyore (rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com) writes:
Oyek wrote:

Is there any inverse log/audio potentiometers in the market (mouser or
digikey ?) ?
I need potentiometers which resistor values decaying fast from bigger to
small values when they turn clockwise.I can use regular audio
potentiometers but unfortunately to get this effect I have to turn them
CCW.Thanks for your help.
They are very difficult to obtain. Pro-audio equipment is the only sector I know
that regularly uses them.

But you can get the effect of a log potentiometer with the proper value
resistor from the arm to one of the fixed ends of the pot. It's been
written up lots of times, and I recall something in "Electronics" about
using an op-amp for an improved implementation of it.

If it gives satisfactory results, then the inverse effect can be done
with putting the resistor to the other end of the pot.

Yes I know, but in audio, both applications that regularly require 'antilog' pots
aren't actually voltage dividers, so it doesn't help.

Graham
 
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Features
ˇ Compatible with MCS-51TM Products
ˇ 8 Kbytes of In-System Reprogrammable Flash Memory
Endurance: 1,000 Write/Erase Cycles
ˇ Fully Static Operation: 0 Hz to 24 MHz
ˇ Three-Level Program Memory Lock
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disabling all other chip functions until the next hardware reset.
 
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:44:15 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"
<rogerspamignored@ttelmah.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Sorry, 'CBCT', standard abbreviation, for 'core balance current
transformer'. They differ slightly from the normal current transformers,
being designed to give relatively high gains from the imbalance of current
in two (or more) wires. Generally they give high outputs, for small
imbalances, against a normal 'current transformer', which usually gives
quite a low output current for a large input. :)
They standard application, is the RCCB, which is normally based on these.

Best Wishes
OK, many thanks for the clarification. I think the ones we have are standard,
but there are also some LEM/HEME types as well. I'll still have a dig through
and report back.

Peter
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On 9 nov, 17:19, mad.scientist...@gmail.com wrote:
Can anyone explain how to (or where to find instructions) build an
accurate linear slide potentiometer of 100k, 150k or 1M ohm? I am
looking to make one with a physical length would be from 2" to 10". I
have seen little exercises where you can draw a pencil line on paper
and connect electrodes to it, and it acts as a resistor, so I am
thinking that building a slide pot might be possible with the right
materials. Any info appreciated...
HI MAD SCIENTIST,
APART FROM THE FACT YOU COULD BUY ONE, AND SEE HOW THEY DO IT,
YOU COULD PERHAPS USE A VERTICAL TUBE FILLED WITH WATER, AND ONE
ISOLATED WIRE WITH END STRIPPED TO THE BOTTOM,
AND A METAL WEIGHT ON AN OTHER WIRE ,THAT CONNECTS TO YOUR HORIZONTAL
OR VERTICAL SLIDER.
ADD SOME CHEMICALS TO ADJUST CONDUCTION.
IN MY SCHOOL DAYS THE GUYS USED A CAPPED FLUORESCENT LIGHT THAT WAY TO
CONTROL THE SPOTS
IN THE PARTY.

KEEP CLICKING HERE FOR <drawing>
 
Lostgallifreyan <no-one@nowhere.net> wrote in
news:Xns996F816CDEB0Bzoodlewurdle@140.99.99.130:

The purely functional
basis of the preference for low colour temperatures is itself symbolic
Correction, that should read "preference for HIGH colour temperatures".
 
Its programmable logic .

Today , it can pck up the stuff not in

the ARM cpu's , such as ultra H.S.

serial to parallel "path" into the cpu .

You can use another cpu , cause they

dont have the serial inputs , a PLD has .

PLDs can do many RLL serial streams

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Some CPU's have USB 2.0 Hi-Speed , which

is Run-Length-Limited , but only one channel .

PLD's can also preprocess the serial , to

allow the CPU to read 1 32 bit word of priorty

info , alllowing CPU to switch tasks quicker .

This 32bit can be the address into the routines .

Thus the PLD is actually redirecting the flow .















..
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

JensB wrote:

On 17 Jun., 11:22, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:

what is a DD214?


That'd be interesting to know...

Regards,
Jens



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announce it to the rest of the world in every email.

I guess I am missing your point.

Don...




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