audio recording on IC -help wanted

Don Bowey wrote:
On 5/4/06 5:51 PM, in article 445a9430$0$29303$88260bb3@free.teranews.com,
"Daniel" <dxmm@nospam.albury.net.au> wrote:

Geoff wrote:
Tek wrote:
I want to change the clock value in a device.
I know the unit can handle it but I wanted to ask if anyone know if
there will be an issue.
The current clock generator is an Xtal... I cannot find the correct
frequency XTAL but crystals are easy to get.

thanks for any advice!
If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal, then by
what basis have you decided that you want to change it, that the unit can
'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do it ?

geoff


Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying is that the places Tek is
looking for XTALs/Crystals don't seem to indicate that they are the same
thing!

Your observation is pointless; XTAL and crystal *are* the same.
Click to expand...
My point is I would hope the places Tek is buying his gear from SHOULD
know Xtal and Crystal ARE the same thing, or is he just dealing with
Sales people that have no idea what they're selling?

On the other hand, you can buy a xtal/crystal oscillator that is more than
just the xtal/crystal.
Click to expand...
Yes, a xtal/crystal oscillator is a circuit which, amongst other
components, contains a xtal/crystal. Your point being......?

Daniel

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On Thu, 04 May 2006 20:57:39 -0700, the renowned Don Bowey
<dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

On 5/4/06 5:51 PM, in article 445a9430$0$29303$88260bb3@free.teranews.com,
"Daniel" <dxmm@nospam.albury.net.au> wrote:

Geoff wrote:
Tek wrote:
I want to change the clock value in a device.
I know the unit can handle it but I wanted to ask if anyone know if
there will be an issue.
The current clock generator is an Xtal... I cannot find the correct
frequency XTAL but crystals are easy to get.

thanks for any advice!

If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal, then by
what basis have you decided that you want to change it, that the unit can
'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do it ?

geoff



Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying is that the places Tek is
looking for XTALs/Crystals don't seem to indicate that they are the same
thing!

Your observation is pointless; XTAL and crystal *are* the same.

On the other hand, you can buy a xtal/crystal oscillator that is more than
just the xtal/crystal.
Click to expand...
Could you subsitute an OSC?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in
news:7cbm521n17fd2t6ui424frqslevfrmrekp@4ax.com:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 20:57:39 -0700, the renowned Don Bowey
dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

On 5/4/06 5:51 PM, in article
445a9430$0$29303$88260bb3@free.teranews.com, "Daniel"
dxmm@nospam.albury.net.au> wrote:

Geoff wrote:
Tek wrote:
I want to change the clock value in a device.
I know the unit can handle it but I wanted to ask if anyone know
if there will be an issue.
The current clock generator is an Xtal... I cannot find the
correct frequency XTAL but crystals are easy to get.

thanks for any advice!

If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal,
then by what basis have you decided that you want to change it,
that the unit can 'handle it', and you have the technical skill to
do it ?

geoff



Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying is that the places
Tek is looking for XTALs/Crystals don't seem to indicate that they
are the same thing!

Your observation is pointless; XTAL and crystal *are* the same.

On the other hand, you can buy a xtal/crystal oscillator that is more
than just the xtal/crystal.

Could you subsitute an OSC?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Click to expand...
Isn't OSC just short for Oscillator and thus horribly unspecific? In
practise it might mean they are using a plastic encapsulated ceramic
(probably piezo electric) element instead of a canned crystal. Maybe less
accurate, but I don't know.
 
On Fri, 05 May 2006 06:49:03 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 20:57:39 -0700, the renowned Don Bowey
dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

On 5/4/06 5:51 PM, in article 445a9430$0$29303$88260bb3@free.teranews.com,
"Daniel" <dxmm@nospam.albury.net.au> wrote:

Geoff wrote:
Tek wrote:
I want to change the clock value in a device.
I know the unit can handle it but I wanted to ask if anyone know if
there will be an issue.
The current clock generator is an Xtal... I cannot find the correct
frequency XTAL but crystals are easy to get.

thanks for any advice!

If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal, then by
what basis have you decided that you want to change it, that the unit can
'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do it ?

geoff



Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying is that the places Tek is
looking for XTALs/Crystals don't seem to indicate that they are the same
thing!

Your observation is pointless; XTAL and crystal *are* the same.

On the other hand, you can buy a xtal/crystal oscillator that is more than
just the xtal/crystal.

Could you subsitute an OSC?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Click to expand...
Y?

--

Boris Mohar
 
On 5/5/06 3:49 AM, in article 7cbm521n17fd2t6ui424frqslevfrmrekp@4ax.com,
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 20:57:39 -0700, the renowned Don Bowey
dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

On 5/4/06 5:51 PM, in article 445a9430$0$29303$88260bb3@free.teranews.com,
"Daniel" <dxmm@nospam.albury.net.au> wrote:

Geoff wrote:
Tek wrote:
I want to change the clock value in a device.
I know the unit can handle it but I wanted to ask if anyone know if
there will be an issue.
The current clock generator is an Xtal... I cannot find the correct
frequency XTAL but crystals are easy to get.

thanks for any advice!

If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal, then by
what basis have you decided that you want to change it, that the unit can
'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do it ?

geoff



Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying is that the places Tek is
looking for XTALs/Crystals don't seem to indicate that they are the same
thing!

Your observation is pointless; XTAL and crystal *are* the same.

On the other hand, you can buy a xtal/crystal oscillator that is more than
just the xtal/crystal.

Could you subsitute an OSC?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
Click to expand...
Substitute it for what?
 
On Fri, 05 May 2006 09:03:21 -0400, the renowned Boris Mohar
<borism_-void-_@sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 05 May 2006 06:49:03 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 20:57:39 -0700, the renowned Don Bowey
dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

On 5/4/06 5:51 PM, in article 445a9430$0$29303$88260bb3@free.teranews.com,
"Daniel" <dxmm@nospam.albury.net.au> wrote:

Geoff wrote:
Tek wrote:
I want to change the clock value in a device.
I know the unit can handle it but I wanted to ask if anyone know if
there will be an issue.
The current clock generator is an Xtal... I cannot find the correct
frequency XTAL but crystals are easy to get.

thanks for any advice!

If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal, then by
what basis have you decided that you want to change it, that the unit can
'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do it ?

geoff



Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying is that the places Tek is
looking for XTALs/Crystals don't seem to indicate that they are the same
thing!

Your observation is pointless; XTAL and crystal *are* the same.

On the other hand, you can buy a xtal/crystal oscillator that is more than
just the xtal/crystal.

Could you subsitute an OSC?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Y?
Click to expand...
/Y?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Tek wrote:
I cannot find the correct frequency XTAL
but crystals are easy to get.
Click to expand...
Geoff wrote:
If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal,
then by what basis have you decided that you want to change it,
that the unit can 'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do it ?
Click to expand...
Daniel wrote:
Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying
is that the places Tek is looking for XTALs/Crystals
don't seem to indicate that they are the same thing!
Click to expand...
What's REALLY fascinating
is that Geoff dug back just shy of 2 years
to find a post to which he would respond.
OP: May 8 2004
If Tek is still looking, it must not be a high priority.

Also worth noting that alt.electronics.analog was never a valid group.
 
Isn't there a manufacturer/PN on the case of the device that's to be
replaced?

Seems a simple search will determine what this part really is...

"Don Bowey" <dbowey@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:C080B919.3131E%dbowey@comcast.net...
On 5/5/06 3:49 AM, in article 7cbm521n17fd2t6ui424frqslevfrmrekp@4ax.com,
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 20:57:39 -0700, the renowned Don Bowey
dbowey@comcast.net> wrote:

On 5/4/06 5:51 PM, in article
445a9430$0$29303$88260bb3@free.teranews.com,
"Daniel" <dxmm@nospam.albury.net.au> wrote:

Geoff wrote:
Tek wrote:
I want to change the clock value in a device.
I know the unit can handle it but I wanted to ask if anyone know if
there will be an issue.
The current clock generator is an Xtal... I cannot find the correct
frequency XTAL but crystals are easy to get.

thanks for any advice!

If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal, then
by
what basis have you decided that you want to change it, that the unit
can
'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do it ?

geoff



Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying is that the places Tek
is
looking for XTALs/Crystals don't seem to indicate that they are the
same
thing!

Your observation is pointless; XTAL and crystal *are* the same.

On the other hand, you can buy a xtal/crystal oscillator that is more
than
just the xtal/crystal.

Could you subsitute an OSC?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Substitute it for what?
Click to expand...
 
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in
news:1146857901.676148.86890@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Tek wrote:
I cannot find the correct frequency XTAL
but crystals are easy to get.

Geoff wrote:
If you don't know that xtal is a common abbreviation for crytal,
then by what basis have you decided that you want to change it,
that the unit can 'handle it', and you have the technical skill to do
it ?

Daniel wrote:
Good question, Geoff, but what's more worrying
is that the places Tek is looking for XTALs/Crystals
don't seem to indicate that they are the same thing!

What's REALLY fascinating
is that Geoff dug back just shy of 2 years
to find a post to which he would respond.
OP: May 8 2004
If Tek is still looking, it must not be a high priority.

Also worth noting that alt.electronics.analog was never a valid group.
Click to expand...
Great, does this mean we could debate my want of a nice 8-pin DIL standard
IC for converting either frequency (or voltage representing it) to voltage
representing pitch? (Log conversion). :) I'm still hoping that thread of
mine, still hopefully current, might get some more suggestions for this..

(In group: sci.electronics.components btw, I don't like to crosspost.)
 
"AZWoody" <Reply@here.not.email> wrote in message
news:WQT6g.34$WQ2.2533@news.uswest.net...
Isn't there a manufacturer/PN on the case of the device that's to be
replaced?

Why bother! this poor schlunk cant figure out which end of the soldering
Click to expand...
iron to hold
until its too late....
He is going to "Soup it up" with a different XTAL hahahaha.....Righty-Oh!
 
Backfire Bob wrote:
"AZWoody" <Reply@here.not.email> wrote in message
news:WQT6g.34$WQ2.2533@news.uswest.net...
Isn't there a manufacturer/PN on the case of the device that's to be
replaced?

Why bother! this poor schlunk cant figure out which end of the soldering
iron to hold
until its too late....
He is going to "Soup it up" with a different XTAL hahahaha.....Righty-Oh!
Click to expand...

People did it with early personal computers to speed them up. As
long as only the CPU clock is changed, and has no effect on other system
timing, and the change is small it would work, but it is likely just a
waste of time and effort like the ones who converted a 10 MHz computer
to 12 MHz.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
JeffM wrote:
Also worth noting that alt.electronics.analog was never a valid group.
Click to expand...

It may be valid on a few servers but not be an official newsgroup
that went through the proper creation process.

On the other hand, news:alt.electronics.analog.vlsi is a valid group.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Ian Bell wrote:

I have a few tubes of NOS Z8 micros (40 pin DIP) which are mask ROM types
containing a Tiny Basic. You can just hook them up to a terminal and code
directly. Alternatively you can add external ROM and RAM for bigger
programmes.

Anyone interested in these or should I just bin them?

Ian
Maybe Tom Pittman would like them as historical keepsakes (he created
Click to expand...
Tiny Basic, remember?).
 
Ian Bell <ruffrecords@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I have a few tubes of NOS Z8 micros (40 pin DIP) which are mask ROM types
containing a Tiny Basic. You can just hook them up to a terminal and code
directly. Alternatively you can add external ROM and RAM for bigger
programmes.

Anyone interested in these or should I just bin them?
Click to expand...
I'll take a tube if they aren't gone. My son is about to hit
programming age...
[my Email is valid till it gets overwhelmed, then it increments
logically]
I'd be happy to pay shipping from the UK to the US if no-one on that
side of the pond wants them.
 
In article <446425bb.0@entanet>, ruffrecords@yahoo.co.uk says...
I have a few tubes of NOS Z8 micros (40 pin DIP) which are mask ROM types
containing a Tiny Basic. You can just hook them up to a terminal and code
directly. Alternatively you can add external ROM and RAM for bigger
programmes.

Anyone interested in these or should I just bin them?
Click to expand...
I'll offer something for trade, if you don't want to ebay them. email
rec -at- usbmicro -dot- com with Z8671 in the subject line.

They are (likely) the Z8671. Used to play with these a lot, long ago.
Would be a fun trip down memory lane to do that again.
 
Huey wrote:

In article <446425bb.0@entanet>, ruffrecords@yahoo.co.uk says...
I have a few tubes of NOS Z8 micros (40 pin DIP) which are mask ROM types
containing a Tiny Basic. You can just hook them up to a terminal and code
directly. Alternatively you can add external ROM and RAM for bigger
programmes.

Anyone interested in these or should I just bin them?

I'll offer something for trade, if you don't want to ebay them. email
rec -at- usbmicro -dot- com with Z8671 in the subject line.

They are (likely) the Z8671. Used to play with these a lot, long ago.
Would be a fun trip down memory lane to do that again.
Click to expand...
This is what it says on the devices:

Zilog Z8
Z0867108 PEC
BASIC/DBG
8828 SR02

The last line is obviously the date code and 8671 is dead centre of the
second line so it looks like that's the ones.

Ian
 
"Ian Bell" <ruffrecords@yahoo.co.uk> schreef in bericht
news:446425bb.0@entanet...
I have a few tubes of NOS Z8 micros (40 pin DIP) which are mask ROM types
containing a Tiny Basic. You can just hook them up to a terminal and code
directly. Alternatively you can add external ROM and RAM for bigger
programmes.

Anyone interested in these or should I just bin them?

Ian
Click to expand...
Ian,

I like those things. So if the alternative is to throw them away I'd like to
have them. My e-mail address contains the Dutch version of leavethisout
andthistoo. Otherwise I have a hotmail address. Which is on my nickname
petrusdotbitbyter. Problem may become shipment cost but if you can provide
the amount, a name and accountnumber I think my bank can handle it.

petrus bitbyter
 
petrus bitbyter wrote:

"Ian Bell" <ruffrecords@yahoo.co.uk> schreef in bericht
news:446425bb.0@entanet...
I have a few tubes of NOS Z8 micros (40 pin DIP) which are mask ROM types
containing a Tiny Basic. You can just hook them up to a terminal and code
directly. Alternatively you can add external ROM and RAM for bigger
programmes.

Anyone interested in these or should I just bin them?

Ian

Ian,

I like those things. So if the alternative is to throw them away I'd like
to have them. My e-mail address contains the Dutch version of leavethisout
andthistoo. Otherwise I have a hotmail address. Which is on my nickname
petrusdotbitbyter. Problem may become shipment cost but if you can provide
the amount, a name and accountnumber I think my bank can handle it.

petrus bitbyter
Click to expand...

Happy to let you have a tube - but I cannot work out your email - can you
spell is out for me pls?

Ian
 
"Ian Bell" <ruffrecords@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:446425bb.0@entanet...
I have a few tubes of NMOS Z8 micros (40 pin DIP) which are
mask ROM types containing a Tiny BASIC.
Click to expand...
Hmm, I recall they were very handy for many small and quick jobs.

You could try selling them a small school tech department, BASIC is simple
enough for kids to play with. If any of them want to take it further then
the Z8 is still on sale these days I think.

As chips go I think they're probably reasonably useful, not skip fodder just
yet.
 
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