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I think Trevor Tosspot has just be handed a first class spankingOn Jul 11, 7:29 pm, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:
"Thomas" <recalcitrant_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7326af5b-6c06-4fb4-8337-e9c07b6baa76@g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com....
On Jul 11, 11:25 am, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
**Feel free to list three arguments that you feel I have failed to "win".
Be
certain to include the entire text. Your use of paraphrasing is
unnacceptable. Your inability to list three cites will invaldate your
claim.
You're kidding right, the full text of every arguement you've lost
would cause Usenet to go into meltdown.
**Cite.
When you get spanked for telling fibs on gun related forums, and then
scuttle away and post the same anti-gun assertions on places like
rec.audio.opinion, aus.hi-fi, aus.tv, aus.legal and now
aus.electronics - you've lost the arguement.
**Cite.
Surehttp://groups.google.com.au/
When you post unsubstantiated assertions about gun dealers using
gunshows to sell guns to criminals, but fail to provide ant evidence
to support thos assertions when asked to - you've lost the arguement..
**They're not unsubstantiated assertions. They're facts, you idiot.
Without proof, they're unsubstantiated assertions...........
When you post unsubstantiated and possibly dematory claims that the
NSW Shooter's Party is seeking to arm criminals, and fail to provide
any evidence when asked to support that assertion - you've lost the
arguement.
**Cite where I claimed such a thing.
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On Mar 15 2007, 10:28 am, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
These guys actively seek to arm criminals:
http://www.shootersparty.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=vie...
They clearly seek to legalise their own bloodlust.
A dangerous and deluded bunch of nutters.
--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au
--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
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Its at
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/5...
When you loudly claim that you never crosspost, and yet your identical
posts appear at exactly the same time on aus.tv, aus.legal and
aus.electronics - you've lost the arguement.
**I do not crosspost. I suggest you brush up on your nettiquette.
Then explain your identical posts appearing on different groups at the
same time.
When you claim you only deal in facts at about the same time you're
claiming your local library keeps Lotts work in the fiction section -
you've lost the arguement.
**Your continued inability to understand sarcasm is duly noted.
Your continued inability to deal with the truth is duly naoted.
When another poster asks to explain your assertions and the only reply
you can come up with is "non-sequitur or "ask a nine year old to
explain it to you" - you've lost the arguement.
**I accept that you are unable to understand the logical flow of a
discussion and argument. Witness this outbust from you.
When you claim to have a friend capable of stopping and restarting his
heart at will whilst target shooting - you've lost the arguement.
**Were you there?
Were you?
When you claim to be able to diagnose medical or mental conditions
over the internet without ever having done the necessary training -
you've lost the arguement.
**You and John have managed that all on your own. A large number of people
now realise the depths of your psychosis.
When you've got to rely on foul-mouthed sock-puppets like Blinky Blonk
and No-One - you've lost the arguement.
**Yep. You're an absolute moron. Thanks for the confirmation.
--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au-
I'll answer this one."Thomas" <recalcitrant_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When you get spanked for telling fibs on gun related forums, and then
scuttle away and post the same anti-gun assertions on places like
rec.audio.opinion, aus.hi-fi, aus.tv, aus.legal and now
aus.electronics - you've lost the arguement.
**Cite.
This appeared on aus.electronicsOn Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:45:20 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
**Yes, it is. The FBI says so. If you have a problem with that, then ake it
up with the FBI.
Their count does not include incidents not reported to them. They
do not include incidents where the aggressor did not die. The FBI
figures do not include incidents that were reported to other agencies.
----------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------**The figures for people legitemately shooting alleged criminals (I say
alleged, because in places like Texas, it would seem that the authorites are
now prepared to accept the word of the 'last man standing', as to the
legitemacy of the shooting) are miniscule in the extreme. FBI figures show
that, in the US, something like 400-odd people are shot and killed by police
in so-called 'justifiable homicide' acts each year. This figure needs to be
examined in the same light as the number killed by civilians in similar
circumstances. The figure for civilians is approximately 230 PA. That figure
needs to be tempered by the inadequacies of the laws in places like Texas,
where lip service is paid by LEOs under many circumstances. Additionally,
one must bear in mind that the number of civilians killed by gunshot each
year in the US is approximately 10,000. Clearly, carrying guns for self
defence purposes is a failed experiment. It is an experiment that many of
the nutters in the pro-gun lobby, here in Australia, wish to duplicate.
These are the same individuals who seem to feel that shooting native ducks
and other indigenous critters is, somehow, sporting. They seem to consider
that the indiscriminate spraying of lead shot into pristine environments,
whilst causing the needless suffering of wild animals is all in a good
cause.
So you are yet another sock-puppet for piggy-shitcan LMAOHey John - Melb,
looks like you got yerself a serious `fan'
Mr Murtz and Reg,regn.pickford wrote:
Hey John - Melb,
looks like you got yerself a serious `fan'
There is a school of thought that Blinky bill and Trevor are one and the
same
"Blinky Bill" <nos...@anytime.com> wrote in message
news:h375nl$t0g$1@news.eternal-september.org...
"John - Melb" <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:483eafb4-6c95-4e11-8279-d66785a541f1@c2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 6:48 pm, "Blinky Bill" <nos...@anytime.com> wrote:
"John - Melb" <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:b02f172e-f345-4a79-93fc-5537c3398cc0@32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 10, 6:01 pm, "Blinky Bill" <nos...@anytime.com> wrote:
SNIP
And Tosspot's foul-mouthed sock puppet finally makes an
appearance...........
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So you snip the thread and try to change the subject to a personal
attack.
ROTFLMAO. Why don't you act your age, or at least the age you claim.
Showed up to giive us some more of you public toilet comments have you?
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You enjoy reading about yourself, don't you LMAO
Who is your puppet-master tonight shitcan? Is it piggy, or fartz or
sputum?
Here is just some of your "bluff, bluster and bullshit".
- "I do have friends that are gay" .. "Unlike you cock-head, I don't
classify people on the basis of their sexual orientation"
LMAO No further comment necessary. He displays his usual tenuous grasp
on
English and logic.
- "I've never met a gun owner who claims to be able to
diagnose a medical condition over the internet, that interesting
belief appears solely the domain of the anti-gun zealot."
Despite the fact that dozens of web-sites tout the services of on-line
doctors.
- "South Australia finished their buyback in Dec 96, all other states
had
completed the buy-back process by mid 97."
Despite the fact that even the SSAA says it ended in SA on 28 February
1997 and in the other states on 30 September 1997
http://www.ssaa.org.au/research/1997/1997-08-26_thanks-participants-f...
- ". in the period immediately folowing the buy-back, there was a
significant increase in the criminal misuse of firearms."
But piggy-shitcan can't provide evidence of this when asked - he
provided
evidence of what happened DURING the buyback
- There is a letter from Tim Fischer on the SSAA web site.
But nobody else could find this letter on the SSAA web-site.
- The FBI web site doesn't show UCR figures.
Trivially easy to prove an obvious lie.
- The results of a survey become "tainted" because they are cited by
somebody that piggy-shitcan disagrees with.
Despite many requests for elaboration on this puzzling theory of
statistics, piggy-shitcan was never able to explain the nature of this
"tainting".
Piggy-shitcan get "all precious" about people who he claims are
"foul-mouthed" but calls people "cunt" and "fucking pathetic".
Piggy-shitcan regularly lies about what people have written.
He accused Phil Smythe of stating "we can reduce shooting murders by
reducing the tenure of firearms licences". Does he behave like an adult
when he is called on his lie? Of course not - his response is to write
"Or gee, sweetie, you're shouting, have I touched a raw nerve".
When commenting on the study by Killias, piggy wrote "He in part
concluded
there was a weak correlation between total homicide and gun ownership."
The actual words used by Killias to describe the correlation were
"substantial" and "reasonably strong".
Like all would-be bullies, piggy-shitcan thinks the rules that he makes
about others don't apply to him because he is a special case - he is
probably right about that but not for the reason he thinks. ROTFLMAO-
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I'll answer this one."Thomas" <recalcitrant_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When you get spanked for telling fibs on gun related forums, and then
scuttle away and post the same anti-gun assertions on places like
rec.audio.opinion, aus.hi-fi, aus.tv, aus.legal and now
aus.electronics - you've lost the arguement.
**Cite.
This appeared on aus.electronicsOn Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:45:20 +1000, "Trevor Wilson"
**Yes, it is. The FBI says so. If you have a problem with that, then ake
it
up with the FBI.
Their count does not include incidents not reported to them. They
do not include incidents where the aggressor did not die. The FBI
figures do not include incidents that were reported to other agencies.
----------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------**The figures for people legitemately shooting alleged criminals (I say
alleged, because in places like Texas, it would seem that the authorites
are
now prepared to accept the word of the 'last man standing', as to the
legitemacy of the shooting) are miniscule in the extreme. FBI figures show
that, in the US, something like 400-odd people are shot and killed by
police
in so-called 'justifiable homicide' acts each year. This figure needs to
be
examined in the same light as the number killed by civilians in similar
circumstances. The figure for civilians is approximately 230 PA. That
figure
needs to be tempered by the inadequacies of the laws in places like Texas,
where lip service is paid by LEOs under many circumstances. Additionally,
one must bear in mind that the number of civilians killed by gunshot each
year in the US is approximately 10,000. Clearly, carrying guns for self
defence purposes is a failed experiment. It is an experiment that many of
the nutters in the pro-gun lobby, here in Australia, wish to duplicate.
These are the same individuals who seem to feel that shooting native ducks
and other indigenous critters is, somehow, sporting. They seem to consider
that the indiscriminate spraying of lead shot into pristine environments,
whilst causing the needless suffering of wild animals is all in a good
cause.
I went there and found it, the fact that you couldn't just serves to"Thomas" <recalcitrant_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8036ba79-a81d-4423-be3d-1eb2dd31e835@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 11, 7:29 pm, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:
"Thomas" <recalcitrant_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7326af5b-6c06-4fb4-8337-e9c07b6baa76@g31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com....
On Jul 11, 11:25 am, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
**Feel free to list three arguments that you feel I have failed to
"win".
Be
certain to include the entire text. Your use of paraphrasing is
unnacceptable. Your inability to list three cites will invaldate your
claim.
You're kidding right, the full text of every arguement you've lost
would cause Usenet to go into meltdown.
**Cite.
**Inability to cite is duly noted.
When you get spanked for telling fibs on gun related forums, and then
scuttle away and post the same anti-gun assertions on places like
rec.audio.opinion, aus.hi-fi, aus.tv, aus.legal and now
aus.electronics - you've lost the arguement.
**Cite.
Surehttp://groups.google.com.au/
**Inability to cite is duly noted.
Two rants from anti-gun politial lobby groups, one opinion/editorialWhen you post unsubstantiated assertions about gun dealers using
gunshows to sell guns to criminals, but fail to provide ant evidence
to support thos assertions when asked to - you've lost the arguement.
**They're not unsubstantiated assertions. They're facts, you idiot.
Without proof, they're unsubstantiated assertions...........
** Idiot.http://www.vpc.org/studies/gunloop.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_showhttp://www.csgv.org/site/c.pmL5JnO7KzE/b.3509285/http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/200...
And that's exactly what you done...... Ha Haa!When you post unsubstantiated and possibly dematory claims that the
NSW Shooter's Party is seeking to arm criminals, and fail to provide
any evidence when asked to support that assertion - you've lost the
arguement.
**Cite where I claimed such a thing.
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On Mar 15 2007, 10:28 am, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
These guys actively seek to arm criminals:
http://www.shootersparty.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=vie...
They clearly seek to legalise their own bloodlust.
A dangerous and deluded bunch of nutters.
--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au
--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
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Its at
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/5...
**Inability to provide an accurate cite is duly noted. Idiot. Your claim
was:
"When you post unsubstantiated and possibly dematory claims that the NSW
Shooter's Party is seeking to arm criminals, and fail to provide any
evidence when asked to support that assertion - you've lost the arguement.."
someone touched a raw nerve?When you loudly claim that you never crosspost, and yet your identical
posts appear at exactly the same time on aus.tv, aus.legal and
aus.electronics - you've lost the arguement.
**I do not crosspost. I suggest you brush up on your nettiquette.
Then explain your identical posts appearing on different groups at the
same time.
**I DO NOT CROSSPOST. I respond to posts. I DO NOT CROSSPOST. That honour
lies with your mate John (Shitcan) McNamara.
Trevor Tosspot has got all upset and has started shouting, Or gee has
"Fence-sitters", you're refering to those wankers over atWhen you claim you only deal in facts at about the same time you're
claiming your local library keeps Lotts work in the fiction section -
you've lost the arguement.
**Your continued inability to understand sarcasm is duly noted.
Your continued inability to deal with the truth is duly naoted.
**Your continued inability to understand sarcasm is duly noted.
When another poster asks to explain your assertions and the only reply
you can come up with is "non-sequitur or "ask a nine year old to
explain it to you" - you've lost the arguement.
**I accept that you are unable to understand the logical flow of a
discussion and argument. Witness this outbust from you.
When you claim to have a friend capable of stopping and restarting his
heart at will whilst target shooting - you've lost the arguement.
**Were you there?
Were you?
**Answer the question. Were you there? Yes or no?
When you claim to be able to diagnose medical or mental conditions
over the internet without ever having done the necessary training -
you've lost the arguement.
**It is abundantly clear that you and John (Shitcan) McNamara have some
serious problems. The last few days adequately demonstrate this. Something
confirmed by a number of emails I've recently received. You two have managed
to convert some 'fence-sitters' into activists. Congratulations. You've
actually managed to alienate other gun owners with your antics. Here's an
excerpt from an email which arrived the other day:
----
Trevor,
I'm a pig shooter. I like shooting pigs because their (sic) sneaky and
tough. They also damage the bush so I feel that I am doing some good. I've
read some of your posts on the gun group and I don't agree with a lot that
you say. Still you say some good things too. The gun laws have been a pain
in the arse for me but I recognise the value in some aspects of them. This
guy John-Melb is a complete nutter. He is NOTHING like any of my mates (who
also shoot pigs and some rabbits). He does not speak for me or anyone I
know. Please do not judge most of us gun owners by John-Melb.
SNIP
To late dopey, he already does, and has done for a very long time.
----
**You and John have managed that all on your own. A large number of people
now realise the depths of your psychosis.
When you've got to rely on foul-mouthed sock-puppets like Blinky Blonk
and No-One - you've lost the arguement.
**Yep. You're an absolute moron. Thanks for the confirmation.
**Thanks again.
--
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