Anti-gun lobby displaying it's ignorance again.

J

John-Melb

Guest
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website
-------------------------------------------------------
Recently, the National Coalition for Gun Control’s spokesperson
Samantha Lee was on television, once again espousing her objection to
the shooting sports. Among other things, she argued that civilians do
not need self-loading handguns and that sporting shooters only require
‘one shot’ to participate in shooting competitions.

Previous experience has shown us that anti-gun groups don’t always
properly research their subject matter or check facts before they
begin their frantic tirades against private firearm ownership and the
shooting sports. Indeed, these groups are often just plain wrong when
it comes to commenting on the many and varied activities involved in
our chosen sport. These groups apparently also believe that the
Olympic or Commonwealth Games are the only arenas for sports shooting.

Recognising this, I would like to use this month’s editorial to set
the record straight about what many of the SSAA’s shooting
competitions actually involve.

The SSAA has more than a dozen shooting competitions with many
categories and matches in each one and many thousands of Australian
shooters participating in them each month. These competitions and
their related matches require the use of many different types of
firearms, from shotguns, pistols and revolvers to rimfire, centrefire,
air and black powder rifles.In Action Match, an international
competition in which the SSAA regularly competes and does extremely
well in, the competitors use both revolvers and self-loading pistols
to engage the targets. In the Falling Plates section of Action Match,
48 shots are fired at metal plate targets in timed events.

In competitions such as Single Action, competitors engage metallic
targets with revolvers and lever-action rifles. These targets are
placed at various distances and the competitor’s score is calculated
by the number of targets hit and the amount of time taken to engage
them.

The SSAA also competes in Target Pistol, which requires 10 shots to be
fired in as little as 40-second and 20-second strings of fire during
the course.

Furthermore, despite what Ms Lee says, even the various Commonwealth
Games shooting competitions require shooters to fire multiple shots.
Their 25m Pistol competition includes a Precision event and a Rapid
Fire event, with each consisting of six stages of five shots for a
total of 30 shots.

The SSAA rifle and shotgunning competitions also require multiple
shots. Field Rifle consists of 42 shots taken at various targets and
distances in timed events, while Lever Action is designed around fast,
accurate shots with all types of lever-action rifles utilised. In most
field shotgun competitions such as 5-Stand, a competitor requires a
shotgun that can deliver a quick second shot to obtain a score if the
target is missed on the first attempt.

Clearly, there are many competitions at club, state, national and
international levels that involve shooters taking multiple shots at
targets. We suspect that the National Coalition for Gun Control’s
misinformed statements about the ‘needs’ of competitive shooters and
what the shooting sports apparently involve is just another ploy by
the anti-gun groups to confuse the non-shooting public and that their
real agenda is, in fact, to ban all firearms, one at a time, handgun
to longarm, multiple-shot to single-shot, until there are no legal
firearms left. Of course, this does nothing to curb illegal firearms,
which may still be used by unlicensed shooters in criminal activities.

The only way to counteract the misinformation of the anti-gun brigade
is through public education and hands-on experience. Perhaps we should
send the National Coalition for Gun Control a copy of our new SSAA’s
Comprehensive Guide to Shooting & Hunting in Australia, which details
all of the SSAA’s shooting competitions? We doubt they would bother to
read it though!
 
On Jul 4, 10:08 pm, John-Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Recently, the National Coalition for Gun Control’s spokesperson
Samantha Lee was on television, once again espousing her objection to
the shooting sports. Among other things, she argued that civilians do
not need self-loading handguns and that sporting shooters only require
‘one shot’ to participate in shooting competitions.
Wonder why the networks are going broke in America? Because ever-
fewer people are willing to watch what amounts to a giant press
release for leftist politicians and leftist advocacy groups -
especially when they know from either personal experience or the
experience of relatives that the "facts" the "mainstream" media says
are bullshit.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
 
John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website
How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?

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"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
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John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website

How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?

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I agree - it's about as relevant as John-Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com>
who has started a few similarly relevant threads of late.
 
John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:23 pm, "Dennis" <den...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
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John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website

How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?

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I agree - it's about as relevant as John-Melb
mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com
who has started a few similarly relevant threads of late.

It's about as relevant as Trevor Tosspot's rants about guns and gun
owners on aus.electronics.
Oh, that recent OT thread that you started and also cross posted to
aus.electronics?

Trevor often does that, get's spanked for telling porkies on a gun
related groups, so he scuttles off to totally unrelated groups and
posts rants about guns and gun owners, last time it was
rec.audio.opinion and aus.hi-fi, this time it's aus.electronics.
He was simply reply to the thread you started when you cross-posted it here
for no good reason.
Trevor is one of the longest standing posters to aus.electronics, and I
can't say I ever remember him talking about guns on this group, except when
you started and cross posted these threads for no good reason.

Don't like it, take it up with Trevor, he chooses the field, I simply
play by his rules.
How about you make up your own rule, remove aus.electronics from your
cross-post list.
Please.

Thanks.
Dave.
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On Jul 5, 7:23 pm, "Dennis" <den...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:4%Z3m.10469$8P7..5340@newsfe21.iad...

John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website

How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?

Dave.
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I agree - it's about as relevant as John-Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com
who has started a few similarly relevant threads of late.
It's about as relevant as Trevor Tosspot's rants about guns and gun
owners on aus.electronics.

Trevor often does that, get's spanked for telling porkies on a gun
related groups, so he scuttles off to totally unrelated groups and
posts rants about guns and gun owners, last time it was
rec.audio.opinion and aus.hi-fi, this time it's aus.electronics.

Don't like it, take it up with Trevor, he chooses the field, I simply
play by his rules.

Or, are you implying that posts by anti-gun zealots like Trevor,
ranting about guns and gun owners is relevant to aus.electronics, but
a differing opinion is not?
 
The vast majority in aus.electronics don't really care. Lets not trash our
working ng's by crossposting irrelevant topics.

cheers.
 
On Jul 5, 10:39 pm, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:23 pm, "Dennis" <den...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:4%Z3m.10469$8P7.5340@newsfe21.iad...

John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website

How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?

Dave.
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I agree - it's about as relevant as John-Melb
mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com
who has started a few similarly relevant threads of late.

It's about as relevant as Trevor Tosspot's rants about guns and gun
owners on aus.electronics.

Oh, that recent OT thread that you started and also cross posted to
aus.electronics?
No, look again.
Trevor often does that, get's spanked for telling porkies on a gun
related groups, so he scuttles off to totally unrelated groups and
posts rants about guns and gun owners, last time it was
rec.audio.opinion and aus.hi-fi, this time it's aus.electronics.

He was simply reply to the thread you started when you cross-posted it here
for no good reason.
Trevor is one of the longest standing posters to aus.electronics, and I
can't say I ever remember him talking about guns on this group, except when
you started and cross posted these threads for no good reason.
No, responding to rants by anti-gun zealots, is in your opinion "no
good reason", well I'm glad we've worked that out.

Don't like it, take it up with Trevor, he chooses the field, I simply
play by his rules.

How about you make up your own rule, remove aus.electronics from your
cross-post list.
Please.
What, and continue to let Trevor post his rants without challenge, not
bloody likely.
Thanks.
Dave.
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- Show quoted text -
 
On Jul 5, 10:51 pm, John - Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 5, 10:39 pm, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh, that recent OT thread that you started and also cross posted to
aus.electronics?

No, look again.
Try here
-------------------------------------------
On Jun 16, 3:21 pm, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**Despite the fact that VASTLY more Americans carry guns around the streets,
legally, the US remains the most dangerous, deadly Western, developed
Democratic nations. Carrying guns achieves, at best, nothing. At worst, it
leads to more violence and death. In fact, the US homicide rate is presently
3 times the Australian one.
------------------------------------------------------------

This rant pre-dates any post I've ever made on aus.electronics. Whilst
these comments seem fairly inoffensive, they must be placed in
context.

Trevor Tosspot took the opportunity to post rants about gun ownership
on a thread which, up to that time had not mentioned firearms at all.

He's previously done that, after being (spanked for telling porkies)
on aus.hi-fi and rec.audio.opinion as well. He believes he can post
his rants and no-one will know enough about the subject matter to
challenge his assertions.

As I said, he chose the field.

I notice you snipped my question, I'll ask again

"Or, are you implying that posts by anti-gun zealots like Trevor,
ranting about guns and gun owners is relevant to aus.electronics, but
a differing opinion is not? "
 
David L. Jones wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:23 pm, "Dennis" <den...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:4%Z3m.10469$8P7.5340@newsfe21.iad...

John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website
How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?
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I agree - it's about as relevant as John-Melb
mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com
who has started a few similarly relevant threads of late.
It's about as relevant as Trevor Tosspot's rants about guns and gun
owners on aus.electronics.

Oh, that recent OT thread that you started and also cross posted to
aus.electronics?

Trevor often does that, get's spanked for telling porkies on a gun
related groups, so he scuttles off to totally unrelated groups and
posts rants about guns and gun owners, last time it was
rec.audio.opinion and aus.hi-fi, this time it's aus.electronics.

He was simply reply to the thread you started when you cross-posted it here
for no good reason.
Trevor is one of the longest standing posters to aus.electronics, and I
can't say I ever remember him talking about guns on this group, except when
you started and cross posted these threads for no good reason.

Don't like it, take it up with Trevor, he chooses the field, I simply
play by his rules.

How about you make up your own rule, remove aus.electronics from your
cross-post list.
Please.

Thanks.
Dave.

Trevor started ranting about guns when Sylvia brought up stun guns and
that is what started it
 
David, while you're discussing his posting practices with your
"longest standing poster" you might want remind him of the claim he
posted on aus.electronics, that US gun dealers are using gunshows to
sell firearms illegally to criminals without carrying out background
checks. You might want to point out to him I asked him at the time to
cite some evidence to support this assertion. You might want to point
out that I'm still waiting for that evidence..................

------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Jun 18, 12:54 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Yes. Easily. Across the US, each year, there are hundreds of 'gun shows'.
At these 'gun shows' dealers, posing as private citizens sell thousands of
guns to criminals. They can do so, because there are virtually zero
restrictions on the sale of 'second hand' guns. Even if that gun has only
been 'second hand' for a couple of minutes and has never been fired. Here in
Australia (and pretty much the rest of the developed world) ALL gun sales
must be recorded and tracked. Even secondary sales. Such an action ensures
that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

As I said, he chose the field.
 
On Jul 5, 11:41 pm, "Dennis" <den...@nowhere.com> wrote:
The vast majority in aus.electronics don't really care. Lets not trash our
working ng's by crossposting irrelevant topics.

cheers.
You're implying Trevor's remarks were relevant, or that his previous
posts on rec.audio.opinion or aus.hi-fi were relevant, but somehow
mine are not?
 
"Dennis" <dennis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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The vast majority in aus.electronics don't really care. Lets not trash our
working ng's by crossposting irrelevant topics.
You're on record as having asked **Trevor not to post OT ?

<Ob on topic component>

When is a fuse, not a fuse?
 
regn.pickford wrote:
"Dennis" <dennis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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The vast majority in aus.electronics don't really care. Lets not trash our
working ng's by crossposting irrelevant topics.


You're on record as having asked **Trevor not to post OT ?

Ob on topic component

When is a fuse, not a fuse?
When it's amp rating is too high.
 
F Murtz wrote:
David L. Jones wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:23 pm, "Dennis" <den...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:4%Z3m.10469$8P7.5340@newsfe21.iad...

John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website
How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?
Dave.
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I agree - it's about as relevant as John-Melb
mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com
who has started a few similarly relevant threads of late.
It's about as relevant as Trevor Tosspot's rants about guns and gun
owners on aus.electronics.

Oh, that recent OT thread that you started and also cross posted to
aus.electronics?

Trevor often does that, get's spanked for telling porkies on a gun
related groups, so he scuttles off to totally unrelated groups and
posts rants about guns and gun owners, last time it was
rec.audio.opinion and aus.hi-fi, this time it's aus.electronics.

He was simply reply to the thread you started when you cross-posted
it here for no good reason.
Trevor is one of the longest standing posters to aus.electronics,
and I can't say I ever remember him talking about guns on this
group, except when you started and cross posted these threads for no
good reason.
Don't like it, take it up with Trevor, he chooses the field, I
simply play by his rules.

How about you make up your own rule, remove aus.electronics from your
cross-post list.
Please.

Thanks.
Dave.


Trevor started ranting about guns when Sylvia brought up stun guns and
that is what started it
Ah, ok, missed that one, but at least he didn't start a thread about it.
Threads do drift off occasionally of course.
Doesn't explain why John-Melb has to respond by *starting* two more cross
posted threads on aus.electronics specifically on the subject? Take it
someplace else John, please.

Dave.

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John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 5, 10:39 pm, "David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote:
John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:23 pm, "Dennis" <den...@nowhere.com> wrote:
"David L. Jones" <altz...@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:4%Z3m.10469$8P7.5340@newsfe21.iad...

John-Melb wrote:
From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website

How is this of relevance to the aus.electronics group?

Dave.
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I agree - it's about as relevant as John-Melb
mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com
who has started a few similarly relevant threads of late.

It's about as relevant as Trevor Tosspot's rants about guns and gun
owners on aus.electronics.

Oh, that recent OT thread that you started and also cross posted to
aus.electronics?

No, look again.
No, you look again.
I see no threads on the topic started by Trevor in aus.electronics.
But I do see two topics *started by you* on the subject crossed posted to
aus.electronics.

Don't like it, take it up with Trevor, he chooses the field, I
simply play by his rules.

How about you make up your own rule, remove aus.electronics from your
cross-post list.
Please.

What, and continue to let Trevor post his rants without challenge, not
bloody likely.
It ain't rocket science, if you don't start cross posted threads to
aus.electronics then we won't see anything about guns on this group. Trevor
certainly isn't starting them.
Please stop.

Dave.
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John - Melb wrote:
David, while you're discussing his posting practices with your
"longest standing poster" you might want remind him of the claim he
posted on aus.electronics, that US gun dealers are using gunshows to
sell firearms illegally to criminals without carrying out background
checks. You might want to point out to him I asked him at the time to
cite some evidence to support this assertion. You might want to point
out that I'm still waiting for that evidence..................
Why would I want to do that. It's your silly fight with Trevor, you go have
it out on the gun groups where it belongs. Leave it off aus.electronics,
please.

Dave.

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On Jul 5, 11:46 pm, John - Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:
David, while you're discussing his posting practices with your
"longest standing poster" you might want  remind him of the claim he
posted on aus.electronics, that US gun dealers are using gunshows to
sell firearms illegally to criminals without carrying out background
checks. You might want to point out to him I asked him at the time to
cite some evidence to support this assertion. You might want to point
out that I'm still waiting for that evidence..................

------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Jun 18, 12:54 pm, "Trevor Wilson"

tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
**Yes. Easily. Across the US, each year, there are hundreds of 'gun shows'.
At these 'gun shows' dealers, posing as private citizens sell thousands of
guns to criminals. They can do so, because there are virtually zero
restrictions on the sale of 'second hand' guns. Even if that gun has only
been 'second hand' for a couple of minutes and has never been fired. Here in
Australia (and pretty much the rest of the developed world) ALL gun sales
must be recorded and tracked. Even secondary sales. Such an action ensures
that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

As I said, he chose the field.


People like Trevor, with their crazy and downright dangerous opinions
on things from AGW, government power, & shredding basic constitutional
rights, when these types get into government and/or any position of
power, or even have the right to vote, over time, they ultimately
create the need for guns in order to reclaim the rights that the trevs
of this world destroy. A lot of lives and property are destroyed, and
generations impoverished along the way.

People in the past could be excused for "allowing" horrible things to
happen, there would have been closed media, lack of balanced knowlege,
and tons of propaganda.

The difference now is that with the internet and the wide range of
sources available, its getting to the point where there is no excuse
for allowing evil to flourish, and if it does, the average citizen now
is responsible, as they had access to the facts.

However I agree, the thread shouldnt be on an Electronics group.
 
They left out the Nordic Biathlon. Skiers who shoot.

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"John-Melb" <mcnamara_john@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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From the Sporting Shooter's Association Website
-------------------------------------------------------
Recently, the National Coalition for Gun Control’s spokesperson
Samantha Lee was on television, once again espousing her objection to
the shooting sports. Among other things, she argued that civilians do
not need self-loading handguns and that sporting shooters only require
‘one shot’ to participate in shooting competitions.

Previous experience has shown us that anti-gun groups don’t always
properly research their subject matter or check facts before they
begin their frantic tirades against private firearm ownership and the
shooting sports. Indeed, these groups are often just plain wrong when
it comes to commenting on the many and varied activities involved in
our chosen sport. These groups apparently also believe that the
Olympic or Commonwealth Games are the only arenas for sports shooting.

Recognising this, I would like to use this month’s editorial to set
the record straight about what many of the SSAA’s shooting
competitions actually involve.

The SSAA has more than a dozen shooting competitions with many
categories and matches in each one and many thousands of Australian
shooters participating in them each month. These competitions and
their related matches require the use of many different types of
firearms, from shotguns, pistols and revolvers to rimfire, centrefire,
air and black powder rifles.In Action Match, an international
competition in which the SSAA regularly competes and does extremely
well in, the competitors use both revolvers and self-loading pistols
to engage the targets. In the Falling Plates section of Action Match,
48 shots are fired at metal plate targets in timed events.

In competitions such as Single Action, competitors engage metallic
targets with revolvers and lever-action rifles. These targets are
placed at various distances and the competitor’s score is calculated
by the number of targets hit and the amount of time taken to engage
them.

The SSAA also competes in Target Pistol, which requires 10 shots to be
fired in as little as 40-second and 20-second strings of fire during
the course.

Furthermore, despite what Ms Lee says, even the various Commonwealth
Games shooting competitions require shooters to fire multiple shots.
Their 25m Pistol competition includes a Precision event and a Rapid
Fire event, with each consisting of six stages of five shots for a
total of 30 shots.

The SSAA rifle and shotgunning competitions also require multiple
shots. Field Rifle consists of 42 shots taken at various targets and
distances in timed events, while Lever Action is designed around fast,
accurate shots with all types of lever-action rifles utilised. In most
field shotgun competitions such as 5-Stand, a competitor requires a
shotgun that can deliver a quick second shot to obtain a score if the
target is missed on the first attempt.

Clearly, there are many competitions at club, state, national and
international levels that involve shooters taking multiple shots at
targets. We suspect that the National Coalition for Gun Control’s
misinformed statements about the ‘needs’ of competitive shooters and
what the shooting sports apparently involve is just another ploy by
the anti-gun groups to confuse the non-shooting public and that their
real agenda is, in fact, to ban all firearms, one at a time, handgun
to longarm, multiple-shot to single-shot, until there are no legal
firearms left. Of course, this does nothing to curb illegal firearms,
which may still be used by unlicensed shooters in criminal activities.

The only way to counteract the misinformation of the anti-gun brigade
is through public education and hands-on experience. Perhaps we should
send the National Coalition for Gun Control a copy of our new SSAA’s
Comprehensive Guide to Shooting & Hunting in Australia, which details
all of the SSAA’s shooting competitions? We doubt they would bother to
read it though!
 
Thomas wrote:
You people truely disgust me.

Ever heard of freedom of speech?

Freedom of speech is not a licence to allow the distribution of
malicous, demonstrably untrue claims about any group in society. It's
designed to ensure that differing opinions are heard.

Wanker Wilson posted his assertion that American gun dealers were
using gunshows to ignore the requirements of GCA-68 and sell guns to
criminals on aus.electronics.

You people said nothing.

Wanker Wilson posted his claims about DGU's in America on
aus.electronics.

You people said nothing.
That's because he did not start the thread, he was clearly not aiming at
aus.electronics and was simply keeping the cross-posted thread going as
originally posted.

But when something is posted pointing out that zealots like Wanker
Wilson often get their facts wrong, you lot start whingeing about
cross-posting.

So, you're not prepared to challenge Wanker Wilson about his off-topic
posts, but quite prepared to challenge John?
Correct, but you've missed the entire point, massively.
Most of us here on aus.electronics do not care about guns or chat about guns
and have never had to put up with talk about guns on this group.
It is only until "John-Melb" posted *two* *new* threads about guns to
aus.electronics that I and others started to complain.
I had no real problems with the OT "Stun gun" thread turning into gun talk,
I simply ignored it, threads drift off-topic, that happens.

I was willing to let John-Melb's first deliberate aus.electronics OT gun
post fly, but when he posted yet another new thread and started showing a
trend of including aus.electronics as a cross post in *new* threads, that's
when I complained - and rightly so.
Remove aus.electronics from your cross-post list, please, we don't want this
on our group.

Regards.
Dave.
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