Americans are morons Part 1

Ian Field wrote:
"news13" <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr wrote:



I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

aagh, that sharing time where you were sent to school sick and shared
them around with your class mates.

There were certain childhood diseases that some parents deliberately got
their kids infected with by sending them to visit kids that had it.

Certain diseases usually can only be caught once, and its better to
catch it as a kid because it can have far more serious consequences in
adult life.

German measles with young girls as dangerous if caught during pregnancy.
 
On 16/12/2015 4:48 PM, news13 wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:03:15 +0800, 800L wrote:

Anecdotal evidence would suggest there is FAR more autism as the result
of older mothers and stale eggs/sperm but no one in the media wants to
touch that one. Imagine the outrage.

IVF is big business.

**And an incredible waste of talent and resources.

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On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:02:11 +1000, keithr wrote:

On 17/12/2015 7:31 AM, Je�us wrote:

I seem to remember getting immunised for the really dangerous stuff,
diphtheria, scarlet fever, whooping cough etc. I never got mumps so I
reckoned that if any of my kids got it I was going to move out for the
duration.

If you already have kids, it doesn't matter.
 
On 17-Dec-15 7:46 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Ian Field wrote:


"news13" <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr wrote:



I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

aagh, that sharing time where you were sent to school sick and shared
them around with your class mates.

There were certain childhood diseases that some parents deliberately got
their kids infected with by sending them to visit kids that had it.

Certain diseases usually can only be caught once, and its better to
catch it as a kid because it can have far more serious consequences in
adult life.


German measles with young girls as dangerous if caught during pregnancy.

Hopefully young girls wont be pregnant, that probably depends a lot on
what suburb you're in!
 
On 17/12/2015 7:31 AM, Je�us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 1:55 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:14:21 +1000, Adrian Jansen <adrian@qq.vv.net
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 7:17 AM, Je?us wrote:


Depends which immunisation - studies have linked one of them to a very low
risk of triggering autism.

Not that the ratio is much consolation to the parent's whose kid gets it.

Never mind what the kid him/herself thinks about it...


Thinking parents dont want their kids to get measles, diphtheria or
whooping cough either. All are bad, and can cause complications leading
to death. Ever seen the stats on how many ?

Did I say they shouldn't be immunised?

I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

True. Too many kids grow up in what is basically a too sterile an
environment these days as well. Immunisation is a good thing of
course, but I think a lot of people need to be a little more
discriminating about when and what to get immunised *for* rather than
by default running off and getting a jab without weighing up if it is
really necessary, or even a good idea at all.
I seem to remember getting immunised for the really dangerous stuff,
diphtheria, scarlet fever, whooping cough etc. I never got mumps so I
reckoned that if any of my kids got it I was going to move out for the
duration.
 
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:02:11 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au>
wrote:

On 17/12/2015 7:31 AM, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 1:55 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:14:21 +1000, Adrian Jansen <adrian@qq.vv.net
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 7:17 AM, Je?us wrote:


Depends which immunisation - studies have linked one of them to a very low
risk of triggering autism.

Not that the ratio is much consolation to the parent's whose kid gets it.

Never mind what the kid him/herself thinks about it...


Thinking parents dont want their kids to get measles, diphtheria or
whooping cough either. All are bad, and can cause complications leading
to death. Ever seen the stats on how many ?

Did I say they shouldn't be immunised?

I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

True. Too many kids grow up in what is basically a too sterile an
environment these days as well. Immunisation is a good thing of
course, but I think a lot of people need to be a little more
discriminating about when and what to get immunised *for* rather than
by default running off and getting a jab without weighing up if it is
really necessary, or even a good idea at all.

I seem to remember getting immunised for the really dangerous stuff,
diphtheria, scarlet fever, whooping cough etc. I never got mumps so I
reckoned that if any of my kids got it I was going to move out for the
duration.

Last jabs I had was 1996, one tetanus shot because of ticks and the
other was a bad decision on my part - a flu shot, which naturally gave
me flu symptoms... interestingly I've never had the flu since then,
and I'm not even sure when/if I've had flu prior to that jab, to be
honest.
 
800L wrote:
On 17-Dec-15 7:46 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Ian Field wrote:


"news13" <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:n4ri36$vh8$3@dont-email.me...
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr wrote:



I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

aagh, that sharing time where you were sent to school sick and shared
them around with your class mates.

There were certain childhood diseases that some parents deliberately got
their kids infected with by sending them to visit kids that had it.

Certain diseases usually can only be caught once, and its better to
catch it as a kid because it can have far more serious consequences in
adult life.


German measles with young girls as dangerous if caught during pregnancy.


Hopefully young girls wont be pregnant, that probably depends a lot on
what suburb you're in!

The trick was to give them rubella while they were young to protect them
when they got older and got pregnant.
 
Jeßus wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:02:11 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 17/12/2015 7:31 AM, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 1:55 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:14:21 +1000, Adrian Jansen <adrian@qq.vv.net
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 7:17 AM, Je?us wrote:


Depends which immunisation - studies have linked one of them to a very low
risk of triggering autism.

Not that the ratio is much consolation to the parent's whose kid gets it.

Never mind what the kid him/herself thinks about it...


Thinking parents dont want their kids to get measles, diphtheria or
whooping cough either. All are bad, and can cause complications leading
to death. Ever seen the stats on how many ?

Did I say they shouldn't be immunised?

I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

True. Too many kids grow up in what is basically a too sterile an
environment these days as well. Immunisation is a good thing of
course, but I think a lot of people need to be a little more
discriminating about when and what to get immunised *for* rather than
by default running off and getting a jab without weighing up if it is
really necessary, or even a good idea at all.

I seem to remember getting immunised for the really dangerous stuff,
diphtheria, scarlet fever, whooping cough etc. I never got mumps so I
reckoned that if any of my kids got it I was going to move out for the
duration.

Last jabs I had was 1996, one tetanus shot because of ticks and the
other was a bad decision on my part - a flu shot, which naturally gave
me flu symptoms... interestingly I've never had the flu since then,
and I'm not even sure when/if I've had flu prior to that jab, to be
honest.
If you never get on a train(where the flu is kept :)) or go to big
shopping centres you are less likely to.
 
On 14/12/2015 2:41 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great deal
about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/


"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that
photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would
keep the plants from growing. She said she has observed areas near solar
panels where the plants are brown and dead because they did not get
enough sunlight.

If she's an example of the quality of their science teachers, then no
wonder there's so much misunderstanding.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area, saying
no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer."

By "no one could tell her" does she mean that she won't be told?

Sylvia.
 
On 18/12/2015 1:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/12/2015 2:41 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great deal
about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/



"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that
photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would
keep the plants from growing. She said she has observed areas near solar
panels where the plants are brown and dead because they did not get
enough sunlight.

If she's an example of the quality of their science teachers, then no
wonder there's so much misunderstanding.


She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area, saying
no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer."


By "no one could tell her" does she mean that she won't be told?

**That's one possibility. As a science teacher, one would expect the
difficulties in proving a null hypothesis.

eg: I cannot prove there is no God. However, it is clear that such a
creature cannot possibly exist.


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On 18/12/2015 6:05 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 18/12/2015 1:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/12/2015 2:41 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great deal
about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/




"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that
photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would
keep the plants from growing. She said she has observed areas near solar
panels where the plants are brown and dead because they did not get
enough sunlight.

If she's an example of the quality of their science teachers, then no
wonder there's so much misunderstanding.


She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area, saying
no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer."


By "no one could tell her" does she mean that she won't be told?


**That's one possibility. As a science teacher, one would expect the
difficulties in proving a null hypothesis.

eg: I cannot prove there is no God. However, it is clear that such a
creature cannot possibly exist.
Actually, that's not what I meant. What I had in mind was that no matter
what evidence is presented to her, she'll ignore it and persist with her
belief.

Sylvia.
 
On 18/12/2015 7:00 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 18/12/2015 6:05 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 18/12/2015 1:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/12/2015 2:41 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great deal
about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/





"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned that
photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not happen and would
keep the plants from growing. She said she has observed areas near
solar
panels where the plants are brown and dead because they did not get
enough sunlight.

If she's an example of the quality of their science teachers, then no
wonder there's so much misunderstanding.


She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area,
saying
no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer."


By "no one could tell her" does she mean that she won't be told?


**That's one possibility. As a science teacher, one would expect the
difficulties in proving a null hypothesis.

eg: I cannot prove there is no God. However, it is clear that such a
creature cannot possibly exist.


Actually, that's not what I meant. What I had in mind was that no matter
what evidence is presented to her, she'll ignore it and persist with her
belief.

'K. That works too.


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Joe Hey <joehey@mailinator.com> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:11:27 +0800
Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:

On 15/12/2015 10:36 PM, Joe Hey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:55:29 +0800
APV <nil@none.com> wrote:

On 14-Dec-15 11:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great
deal about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/


"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned
that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not
happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has
observed areas near solar panels where the plants are brown and
dead because they did not get enough sunlight.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area,
saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause
cancer."

Joe (I think wind turbines are a blight, but fucking big holes in
the ground and pollution is fine) Hockey will be right at home
amongst this level of ignorance.




Not just the yanks. I just heard a woman on ABC radio spouting of
about how she'd "read scientific studies on the internet" that
proved immunization causes autism.

Those studies really do exist and seem to point out that multiple
vaccinations such as measles+mumps+rubella do cause autism like
symptoms in some cases.

Of course such science is immediately suppressed and researchers
'Wakefielded' almost instantly.


Of course you have evidence of this?




Read the papers by Wakefield and his colleagues who got chastised for
daring to publish their work.

No one has reproduced his findings in the last twenty years and it is
now known that Wakefield kept secret the fact that he was being paid
to find a link between vaccination and autism
<http://briandeer.com/mmr/lancet-deer-1.htm>. Why do you choose to
believe Wakefield instead of the General Medical Council
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield>?
 
On 19/12/2015 12:38 PM, Joe Hey wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:33:35 +1100
Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 16/12/2015 4:11 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/12/2015 10:36 PM, Joe Hey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:55:29 +0800
APV <nil@none.com> wrote:

On 14-Dec-15 11:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great
deal about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/



"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned
that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not
happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has
observed areas near solar panels where the plants are brown and
dead because they did not get enough sunlight.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area,
saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause
cancer."

Joe (I think wind turbines are a blight, but fucking big holes in
the ground and pollution is fine) Hockey will be right at home
amongst this level of ignorance.




Not just the yanks. I just heard a woman on ABC radio spouting of
about how she'd "read scientific studies on the internet" that
proved immunization causes autism.

Those studies really do exist and seem to point out that multiple
vaccinations such as measles+mumps+rubella do cause autism like
symptoms in some cases.

Of course such science is immediately suppressed and researchers
'Wakefielded' almost instantly.


Of course you have evidence of this?




**Of course not. Like all 'anti-vaxers' this guy is a complete moron,
who will post anything, despite the lack of evidence.


Apparently some Australians are morons too. :)

**Of course. Just as we have AGW deniers, we have anti-vaxers as well.
They are all, of course, on the bottom end of the IQ bell curve.


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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:08:00 -0000
"Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Clocky" <notgonna@happen.com> wrote in message
news:566fd84f$0$1498$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com...
On 15/12/2015 5:15 AM, Ian Field wrote:


"APV" <nil@none.com> wrote in message
news:pNOdnYfWDrtiHvPLnZ2dnUU7-XOdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
On 14-Dec-15 11:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great
deal about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/



"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned
that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not
happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has
observed areas near solar
panels where the plants are brown and dead because they did not
get enough sunlight.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the
area, saying
no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause cancer."

Joe (I think wind turbines are a blight, but fucking big holes
in the ground and pollution is fine) Hockey will be right at
home amongst this level of ignorance.




Not just the yanks. I just heard a woman on ABC radio spouting of
about how she'd "read scientific studies on the internet" that
proved immunization causes autism. FFS some people need to be
removed from the gene pool.


Depends which immunisation - studies have linked one of them to a
very low risk of triggering autism.


Which study was that?

One that they announced on the news a couple or few years ago.

There is a verified risk that a tiny percentage will develop autism
as a result of the vaccination.

Someone in the medical profession blew it out of all proportions and
put people off having their kids vaccinated.

No, he (Wakefield) didn't. It was the media who blew his words out of
proportion and context.
What he said was an answer to the question of one of the parents about
what he would do with his kids: vaccinate or not.

His answer was that he thought it would probably a good idea to postpone
it (measles) with one year and keep it one year apart from mumps and the
rubella vaccination.

In Japan they tried this and the autism went down considerably and
immediately. The they got bullied and bought into re-instating the MMR,
and up it went again.

Crazy zealots on both side have been climbing in high places and
shouting out rude names ever since.............................

The real zealots are the owners of the companies that make huge and
protected profits from the vaccines. They have every reason to blow
things up.

The rest are only victims.

joe
 
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:31:33 +1100
Je_us <j@invalid.lan> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 1:55 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:14:21 +1000, Adrian Jansen
adrian@qq.vv.net> wrote:

On 16/12/2015 7:17 AM, Je?us wrote:


Depends which immunisation - studies have linked one of them to
a very low risk of triggering autism.

Not that the ratio is much consolation to the parent's whose
kid gets it.

Never mind what the kid him/herself thinks about it...


Thinking parents dont want their kids to get measles, diphtheria
or whooping cough either. All are bad, and can cause
complications leading to death. Ever seen the stats on how many ?

Did I say they shouldn't be immunised?

I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

True. Too many kids grow up in what is basically a too sterile an
environment these days as well. Immunisation is a good thing of
course, but I think a lot of people need to be a little more
discriminating about when and what to get immunised *for* rather than
by default running off and getting a jab without weighing up if it is
really necessary, or even a good idea at all.

Yeah, yeah, 'immunisation is a good thing of course'.
How much immunisation exactly is 'a good thing'?
American schedules? Does anyone know _where_ the rate of autism _and_
SID are relatively higher? Right: USA. That's why Americans are morons,
and people going that path are too.

Polio vaccination? OK.
Measles? Only if you haven't had it as a kid.
Whooping cough? Not necessarily, our hospitals are very good.
Chicken pox? Just make sure the kid doesn't scratch.
HPV? My God! NO!

joe
 
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 13:03:15 +0800
800L <8@loo.com> wrote:

On 16-Dec-15 3:33 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 16/12/2015 4:11 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/12/2015 10:36 PM, Joe Hey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:55:29 +0800
APV <nil@none.com> wrote:

On 14-Dec-15 11:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great
deal about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/




"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned
that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not
happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has
observed areas near solar panels where the plants are brown and
dead because they did not get enough sunlight.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the
area, saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t
cause cancer."

Joe (I think wind turbines are a blight, but fucking big holes
in the ground and pollution is fine) Hockey will be right at
home amongst this level of ignorance.




Not just the yanks. I just heard a woman on ABC radio spouting of
about how she'd "read scientific studies on the internet" that
proved immunization causes autism.

Those studies really do exist and seem to point out that multiple
vaccinations such as measles+mumps+rubella do cause autism like
symptoms in some cases.

Of course such science is immediately suppressed and researchers
'Wakefielded' almost instantly.


Of course you have evidence of this?




**Of course not. Like all 'anti-vaxers' this guy is a complete
moron, who will post anything, despite the lack of evidence.




Anecdotal evidence would suggest there is FAR more autism as the
result of older mothers and stale eggs/sperm but no one in the media
wants to touch that one. Imagine the outrage.

I wouldn't mind to find out if that's the case.

joe
 
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 06:33:35 +1100
Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 16/12/2015 4:11 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 15/12/2015 10:36 PM, Joe Hey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:55:29 +0800
APV <nil@none.com> wrote:

On 14-Dec-15 11:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great
deal about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/



"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned
that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not
happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has
observed areas near solar panels where the plants are brown and
dead because they did not get enough sunlight.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area,
saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause
cancer."

Joe (I think wind turbines are a blight, but fucking big holes in
the ground and pollution is fine) Hockey will be right at home
amongst this level of ignorance.




Not just the yanks. I just heard a woman on ABC radio spouting of
about how she'd "read scientific studies on the internet" that
proved immunization causes autism.

Those studies really do exist and seem to point out that multiple
vaccinations such as measles+mumps+rubella do cause autism like
symptoms in some cases.

Of course such science is immediately suppressed and researchers
'Wakefielded' almost instantly.


Of course you have evidence of this?




**Of course not. Like all 'anti-vaxers' this guy is a complete moron,
who will post anything, despite the lack of evidence.

Apparently some Australians are morons too. :)

joe
 
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 01:11:27 +0800
Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:

On 15/12/2015 10:36 PM, Joe Hey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:55:29 +0800
APV <nil@none.com> wrote:

On 14-Dec-15 11:41 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Well, I know not all Americans are morons, but this says a great
deal about how sadly lacking their education system is:

http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/


"She is a retired Northampton science teacher and is concerned
that photosynthesis, which depends upon sunlight, would not
happen and would keep the plants from growing. She said she has
observed areas near solar panels where the plants are brown and
dead because they did not get enough sunlight.

She also questioned the high number of cancer deaths in the area,
saying no one could tell her that solar panels didn’t cause
cancer."

Joe (I think wind turbines are a blight, but fucking big holes in
the ground and pollution is fine) Hockey will be right at home
amongst this level of ignorance.




Not just the yanks. I just heard a woman on ABC radio spouting of
about how she'd "read scientific studies on the internet" that
proved immunization causes autism.

Those studies really do exist and seem to point out that multiple
vaccinations such as measles+mumps+rubella do cause autism like
symptoms in some cases.

Of course such science is immediately suppressed and researchers
'Wakefielded' almost instantly.


Of course you have evidence of this?

Read the papers by Wakefield and his colleagues who got chastised for
daring to publish their work.

joe
 
On 19-Dec-15 9:43 AM, Joe Hey wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:31:33 +1100
Je_us <j@invalid.lan> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 20:54:58 +1000, keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au
wrote:

On 16/12/2015 1:55 PM, Je?us wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:14:21 +1000, Adrian Jansen
adrian@qq.vv.net> wrote:

On 16/12/2015 7:17 AM, Je?us wrote:


Depends which immunisation - studies have linked one of them to
a very low risk of triggering autism.

Not that the ratio is much consolation to the parent's whose
kid gets it.

Never mind what the kid him/herself thinks about it...


Thinking parents dont want their kids to get measles, diphtheria
or whooping cough either. All are bad, and can cause
complications leading to death. Ever seen the stats on how many ?

Did I say they shouldn't be immunised?

I think that immunisation is a good idea, but, when I was a kid,
measles, chicken pox, and mumps were just a part of growing up. You
usually got them early on in primary school.

True. Too many kids grow up in what is basically a too sterile an
environment these days as well. Immunisation is a good thing of
course, but I think a lot of people need to be a little more
discriminating about when and what to get immunised *for* rather than
by default running off and getting a jab without weighing up if it is
really necessary, or even a good idea at all.

Yeah, yeah, 'immunisation is a good thing of course'.
How much immunisation exactly is 'a good thing'?
American schedules? Does anyone know _where_ the rate of autism _and_
SID are relatively higher? Right: USA. That's why Americans are morons,
and people going that path are too.

Polio vaccination? OK.
Measles? Only if you haven't had it as a kid.
Whooping cough? Not necessarily, our hospitals are very good.

But not good enough to stop kids dying from it...........

Chicken pox? Just make sure the kid doesn't scratch.
HPV? My God! NO!

joe
 

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