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David Brown
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On 18/03/2022 20:31, John Doe wrote:
Some of the maps at
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War> suggest
otherwise. Of course, this would not be the first time countries
disagreed about who \"owns\" or \"controls\" a piece of land.
The Europeans had a wide selection of imaginative torture methods at
that time too. But mostly these were reserved for settling theological
disputes amongst themselves, rather than for military enemies.
It\'s hard to imagine how it could have been \"MUCH\" worse. But it\'s
unlikely that it would have been very different.
Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...
The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
All the states chose to be states. We didn\'t have much of a colonial
empire, and don\'t hold any territory by force.
I would say the war between the states (Civel War) held many states by
force. Wasn\'t Texas taken from Mexico ?
No.
Mexican troops killed Geronimo\'s family. Then Geronimo spent the next 3
decades killing & torturing Mexicans and other Indians along what is now
our southwestern border. Geronimo died of old age and pneumonia in a US
Army hospital. Mexico never owned or even controlled anything north of the
Rio Grande.
Some of the maps at
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War> suggest
otherwise. Of course, this would not be the first time countries
disagreed about who \"owns\" or \"controls\" a piece of land.
America was anything but Mr Rogers Neighborhood before Europeans arrived.
The word \"savage\" was not taken from thin air. Some Comanche torture
methods are interesting, conceivably promoted by their abuse of peyote.
The Europeans had a wide selection of imaginative torture methods at
that time too. But mostly these were reserved for settling theological
disputes amongst themselves, rather than for military enemies.
If Europeans had not settled and developed this land, some other advanced
civilization would have landed (like Asians, before 1941). Could have been
MUCH worse for native Indians and our neighbors to the south and north.
It\'s hard to imagine how it could have been \"MUCH\" worse. But it\'s
unlikely that it would have been very different.