all electric cars in europe...

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:03:43 AM UTC-6, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/


I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.





--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

Conveniently for them, they consider burning wood \'carbon neutral\'. Replacing decommissioned coal plants with wood burning plants even though they emit more CO2 than the coal plants did. Brilliant.

\"Bioenergy was classified as carbon neutral under the Kyoto Protocol, meaning that nations don’t need to count wood burning for energy among their Paris Agreement carbon emissions.\"

https://news.mongabay.com/2019/03/eu-sued-to-stop-burning-trees-for-energy-its-not-carbon-neutral-plaintiffs/
 
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 1:10:33 PM UTC-7, DemonicTubes wrote:
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:03:43 AM UTC-6, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/


I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.





--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
Conveniently for them, they consider burning wood \'carbon neutral\'. Replacing decommissioned coal plants with wood burning plants even though they emit more CO2 than the coal plants did. Brilliant.

\"Bioenergy was classified as carbon neutral under the Kyoto Protocol, meaning that nations don’t need to count wood burning for energy among their Paris Agreement carbon emissions.\"

https://news.mongabay.com/2019/03/eu-sued-to-stop-burning-trees-for-energy-its-not-carbon-neutral-plaintiffs/

Great. I was thinking about installing a wood burning generator at the back of my EV.
 
On 18/03/22 18:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:09:26 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12hsm$aek$3@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 16:25, Jan Panteltje wrote:

was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I do not - and have
not seen in the US in ages.

I presume you watched Putin on TV yesterday, calling
for a \"self purification of Russia\".

Now where/when did we hear similar statements before?

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1504235879996534787
and probably elsewhere.

Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.
They do have a tendency towards smug self-congratulation that
they are the most favoured country. The UK was similar in the
19th and first half of the 20th century.

That doesn\'t make Russia a decent place.

Never been there, been to East Germany before the wall fell,
noted nothing bad about it.

So did I, amongst several other relevant things.

The GDR border guards were /very/ touchy, and people had to be
very careful not to irritate them. Things like keeping western
glossy magazines out of site, not bringing East German currency
out.

In East Berlin, I went in the best department store, on Alexander
Platz - because they forced visitors to spend some money in
East Germany. The *only* thing I found to buy were a few postcards.

I know someone whose job was to see how well the BBC
was being received. He was frequently harassed.

I know someone that divorced (so his wife could come back to
the UK), crawled under the wall, and was remarried.

Summary: you must have been blind.
 
On 18/03/22 19:53, Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 18.03.22 19:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:09:26 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12hsm$aek$3@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 16:25, Jan Panteltje wrote:

was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I
do not - and have
not  seen in the US in ages.

I presume you watched Putin on TV yesterday, calling
for a \"self purification of Russia\".

Now where/when did we hear similar statements before?

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1504235879996534787
and probably elsewhere.

Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.
They do have a tendency towards smug self-congratulation that
they are the most favoured country. The UK was similar in the
19th and first half of the 20th century.

That doesn\'t make Russia a decent place.

Never been there, been to East Germany before the wall fell,
noted nothing bad about it.


Are you being treated for that kind of blindness?

Beat me to it!

It seems to be a common affliction in this group.
 
On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 14:16:05 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/18/2022 12:57 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <n6d93hh06f3l5rsk5ioqap12naf2b0su66@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...

The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
All the states chose to be states. We didn\'t have much of a colonial
empire, and don\'t hold any territory by force.




I would say the war between the states (Civel War) held many states by
force.
Wasn\'t Texas taken from Mexico ?

Some would say all of America was taken from lots of people, lol

There were waves of immigration before europeans showed up. And nasty
regional warfare. Who owns the land?

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
Jan Panteltje Rabid Lunatic wrote:
======================---
They US is basically a bunch of robbers
They took so many countries by force, invaded those, forced government changes,
Starting with - yes- the Native Americans.
bombing Vietnam, invading Iraq, there is no end to it.

** Giant LIE.

The US has never invaded another country, in order to take it over.
he only land area the US has permanently \"occupied\" is that needed to bury their dead.

Government change forced Germany and Japan were welcomed by the entire world.
Cos psychopaths had taken control and started a world war.
Raving lunatics just like YOU.


....... Phil
 
Am 18.03.22 um 17:51 schrieb jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:25:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:03:33 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
q2b93hdrktcvjl33sid25tbbboff7s2cho@4ax.com>:


https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/


I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.

Northstream2 will work by that time ?

Germany is already energy poor, mostly by choice. And hostage to
Russia.

Germany is still a net electricity exporter.
So, EVs are not completely brain dead.

And Ukraine is on the European net since a week.
No problems here.


Living just 20 miles NW of Ramstein, I feel as much taken
hostage from the US as from Russia.
Not so protected but forced into someone else\'s influence sphere.


The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
All the states chose to be states. We didn\'t have much of a colonial
empire, and don\'t hold any territory by force.

...at least after you have installed your usual puppet regime.
12 years of peace since \"we the people...\"
That includes the big recession, where adventures could not
be pre-financed.

And before that, extinguishing the indigenous population.
That\'s what I\'d call a proud tradition.

\"What did you call this land before the white man came?\"
\"Ours\"
 
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

=================================
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/


I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.

** All politics, no reality.
EVs are the solution to NOTHING.
Cute toys for the amusement of Green politics wankers.



....... Phil
 
In article <ams93hhp45ae32ihq70b80ugvlfgjebrlm@4ax.com>,
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com says...
There were waves of immigration before europeans showed up. And nasty
regional warfare. Who owns the land?

-

Just as always , the one with the best military.
 
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:51:41 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:25:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:03:33 -0700) it happened
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
q2b93hdrktcvjl33s...@4ax.com>:

<snip>

> Germany is already energy poor, mostly by choice. And hostage to Russia.

Scarcely energy poor, and not noticeably hostage to Russia.

was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I do not - and have not seen in the US in ages.

Well, Russian TV tolerates no dissent.

Apart from the lady who broke into the live news with a protest placard, which did shown up on the Australian TV news.
Americans don\'t get all that much international news so John Larkin might not have seen it.

> One cool thing about the US is its lack of unity. People are inherently different, so sporting-level diversity works.

Mostly they are badly educated, and have all sorts of different silly ideas.. John Larkin on anthropogenic global warming is an example.

Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.

The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
All the states chose to be states. We didn\'t have much of a colonial
empire, and don\'t hold any territory by force.

The Philippine and Porto Rico don\'t count? Banana republics were more of the same. Contragate was a more modern version of the same kind of approach.
The invasion of Irak was clearly intended to be the same kind of empire-building but George W Bush and his cronies didn\'t believe the US Army estimates of the cost of occupying Irak, so - despite all the oil - it didn\'t turn out to be any more worth holding onto than had the Philippines.

> What swept the world, and continues, is US science and culture and SUVs and food. Check google Street View all over the world. Everything looks like Dallas.

To John Larkin.

> It\'s unfortunate that, at the end of WW2, Russia forced the US to be the defender of Europe, the world\'s unwilling policeman.

US investments in Europe had something to do with that.

> But more to the point, we have gobs of gas and oil, and politicians will drill before being voted out.

John Larkin really doesn\'t get the point about anthropogenic global warming, does he. As long as the fossil carbon extraction industry is allowed to keep spending big on denialist propaganda, gullible twits like him will stay suckered.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:56:47 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
All the states chose to be states. We didn\'t have much of a colonial
empire, and don\'t hold any territory by force.

What swept the world, and continues, is US science and culture and
SUVs and food. Check google Street View all over the world. Everything
looks like Dallas.
Puerto Rico looks like Alcatraz, with bars on every door and window.

That\'s actually a Spanish trait and is common in the Spanish speaking countries. These rejas are typically ornamental and their use is essentially a matter of custom, rather than necessity, much like a fence around your yard in the US. Remember that the weather here allows for many outside spaces that are essentially part of the home. So wrought iron serves to define that space rather than completely enclosing it because of the foul weather often encountered in more temperate regions.

One side effect, is that with the nearly universal use, they become self fulling. If your home is the only home in the neighborhood without rejas, it\'s like leaving your car unlocked, while the other cars are locked.

--

Rick C.

-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:56:22 PM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 18/03/22 19:53, Sjouke Burry wrote:
On 18.03.22 19:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:09:26 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12hsm$aek$3...@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 16:25, Jan Panteltje wrote:

was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I
do not - and have
not seen in the US in ages.

I presume you watched Putin on TV yesterday, calling
for a \"self purification of Russia\".

Now where/when did we hear similar statements before?

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1504235879996534787
and probably elsewhere.

Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.
They do have a tendency towards smug self-congratulation that
they are the most favoured country. The UK was similar in the
19th and first half of the 20th century.

That doesn\'t make Russia a decent place.

Never been there, been to East Germany before the wall fell,
noted nothing bad about it.


Are you being treated for that kind of blindness?
Beat me to it!

It seems to be a common affliction in this group.

Yeah, also dumb and blind.

--

Rick C.

+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 5:37:28 PM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

================================
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/


I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.

** All politics, no reality.
EVs are the solution to NOTHING.
Cute toys for the amusement of Green politics wankers.

And yet it has been shown very, very clearly, even well enough for you to understand if you choose, that BEVs charging from the grid produce less carbon than ICE and use less power in general. I suppose none of this means anything to you. I get that for sure. One thing that does mean something to you is profanity. Go get \'em tiger! Let the profanity begin!

I appreciate profanity from you because it\'s what you do when you have no other argument to make.

It\'s amusing that Larkin can\'t understand something as simple as slack time in electrical generation. I would have hoped you could understand it.

--

Rick C.

++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:51:41 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:25:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:03:33 -0700) it happened
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
q2b93hdrktcvjl33s...@4ax.com>:
snip
Germany is already energy poor, mostly by choice. And hostage to Russia..
Scarcely energy poor, and not noticeably hostage to Russia.
was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I do not - and have not seen in the US in ages.

Well, Russian TV tolerates no dissent.
Apart from the lady who broke into the live news with a protest placard, which did shown up on the Australian TV news.
Americans don\'t get all that much international news so John Larkin might not have seen it.

Perhaps you are thinking of the 50s when people ate dinner on TV trays gathered in front of the television. Now many people get their news from the Internet. I find Google to be a reasonable aggregator of news from various sources. If they are feeding me what they think I want to read, I must be clicking on a bunch of stuff in my sleep. It\'s weird some of the stuff I skip over.


One cool thing about the US is its lack of unity. People are inherently different, so sporting-level diversity works.
Mostly they are badly educated, and have all sorts of different silly ideas. John Larkin on anthropogenic global warming is an example.

There\'s nothing wrong with dissent. The insanity is when people deny facts.. This seems to mostly be the result of people who want to manipulate those of lower intelligence, or wish to only hear about things they want to believe.


Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.

The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
All the states chose to be states. We didn\'t have much of a colonial
empire, and don\'t hold any territory by force.
The Philippine and Porto Rico don\'t count? Banana republics were more of the same. Contragate was a more modern version of the same kind of approach..

That\'s Puerto Rico, thank you very much, \"Rich Port\".


The invasion of Irak was clearly intended to be the same kind of empire-building but George W Bush and his cronies didn\'t believe the US Army estimates of the cost of occupying Irak, so - despite all the oil - it didn\'t turn out to be any more worth holding onto than had the Philippines.
What swept the world, and continues, is US science and culture and SUVs and food. Check google Street View all over the world. Everything looks like Dallas.
To John Larkin.

Yeah, that is a pretty stupid thing to say. I bet people in much of Europe would take offense at that.


It\'s unfortunate that, at the end of WW2, Russia forced the US to be the defender of Europe, the world\'s unwilling policeman.

US investments in Europe had something to do with that.

I think that was about capitalism, as much as anything. We do tend to think we can install democracy everywhere. Much of Asia just isn\'t totally compatible with democracy. Vietnam for example. People live their lives and don\'t worry so much about politics. In the US, we get very excited about so many small details and the important stuff seldom changes.


But more to the point, we have gobs of gas and oil, and politicians will drill before being voted out.
John Larkin really doesn\'t get the point about anthropogenic global warming, does he. As long as the fossil carbon extraction industry is allowed to keep spending big on denialist propaganda, gullible twits like him will stay suckered.

AGW is a hard sell to anyone who won\'t believe anything until it smacks them in the face.

--

Rick C.

--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 20:55:21 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12rjp$7gh$2@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 18:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:09:26 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12hsm$aek$3@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 16:25, Jan Panteltje wrote:

was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I do not - and have
not seen in the US in ages.

I presume you watched Putin on TV yesterday, calling
for a \"self purification of Russia\".

Now where/when did we hear similar statements before?

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1504235879996534787
and probably elsewhere.

Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.
They do have a tendency towards smug self-congratulation that
they are the most favoured country. The UK was similar in the
19th and first half of the 20th century.

That doesn\'t make Russia a decent place.

Never been there, been to East Germany before the wall fell,
noted nothing bad about it.

So did I, amongst several other relevant things.

The GDR border guards were /very/ touchy, and people had to be
very careful not to irritate them. Things like keeping western
glossy magazines out of site, not bringing East German currency
out.

In East Berlin, I went in the best department store, on Alexander
Platz - because they forced visitors to spend some money in
East Germany. The *only* thing I found to buy were a few postcards.

I know someone whose job was to see how well the BBC
was being received. He was frequently harassed.

I know someone that divorced (so his wife could come back to
the UK), crawled under the wall, and was remarried.

Summary: you must have been blind.

I can tell you the same about US, and I _have_ seen bad things there.
Beauty is in the beholders eye...
Same over here.
Human nature
East Germany felt a lot safer than United States,
But I did see West Side Story before I went to the US and became part of it myself :)
There is crime in Russia too ..
Same over here
But US is the biggest predator in the world right now mainly because others fear the bomb.
Now that everybody and their cat has nukes the fear for the US decreases.
Others group together and the US \'Mafia\' has the choice of taking a step back or being nuked into oblivion
History ... Roman Empire
In a war situation most likely US solders will take a knee
:)
 
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 3/18/2022 12:03 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu
-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/


I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.

The increase in generating capacity in the US that would be needed to
convert all current personal vehicles to electric isn\'t huge, about
what\'s used for electric lighting, 8%-10% as a ballpark.

I estimated that the UK would need more than a 30% increase in
generating capacity to supply the energy requirements of diesel and
petrol private cars and vans. Railway electrification keeps being
stalled by political intransigence and electrifiation of heavy goods
vehicles is a non-starter at the moment.

The current UK policies are simply driving the replacement of moderately
efficient existing vehicles long before they are life-expired with less
efficient new ones that will take years to cover their construction
costs. The car manufacturing and greenwash lobbies have done an
excellent job of perverting the minds of scientifically-ignorant
politicians.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the \".invalid\"s and add \".co.uk\" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk
 
On 18/03/22 16:51, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
It\'s unfortunate that, at the end of WW2, Russia forced the US to be
the defender of europe, the world\'s unwilling policeman.

Nobody forced the US. The US corporations chose to expand
their economic influence.

But you needn\'t worry. China is taking over the role,
especially in Africa and SE Asia.
 
On 19/03/22 02:10, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:51:41 AM UTC+11,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Well, Russian TV tolerates no dissent.

Apart from the lady who broke into the live news with a protest placard,
which did shown up on the Australian TV news. Americans don\'t get all that
much international news so John Larkin might not have seen it.

Not a good example. She now fears for her safety.

Larkin is more accurate here, especially given Putin\'s
recent speech about self-cleansing Russian society,
fifth-columnists, and traitors.
https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-warns-russia-against-pro-western-traitors-scum-2022-03-16/
 
On 19/03/22 07:42, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 20:55:21 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12rjp$7gh$2@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 18:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:09:26 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12hsm$aek$3@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 16:25, Jan Panteltje wrote:

was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I do not - and have
not seen in the US in ages.

I presume you watched Putin on TV yesterday, calling
for a \"self purification of Russia\".

Now where/when did we hear similar statements before?

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1504235879996534787
and probably elsewhere.

Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.
They do have a tendency towards smug self-congratulation that
they are the most favoured country. The UK was similar in the
19th and first half of the 20th century.

That doesn\'t make Russia a decent place.

Never been there, been to East Germany before the wall fell,
noted nothing bad about it.

So did I, amongst several other relevant things.

The GDR border guards were /very/ touchy, and people had to be
very careful not to irritate them. Things like keeping western
glossy magazines out of site, not bringing East German currency
out.

In East Berlin, I went in the best department store, on Alexander
Platz - because they forced visitors to spend some money in
East Germany. The *only* thing I found to buy were a few postcards.

I know someone whose job was to see how well the BBC
was being received. He was frequently harassed.

I know someone that divorced (so his wife could come back to
the UK), crawled under the wall, and was remarried.

Summary: you must have been blind.

I can tell you the same about US, and I _have_ seen bad things there.

I\'ve seen and experienced unsavoury things in the US.
My parents returned after 19 months in Pittsburg partly
because of that. I don\'t remember that because I was a
toddler.


Beauty is in the beholders eye...
Same over here.
Human nature
East Germany felt a lot safer than United States,
But I did see West Side Story before I went to the US and became part of it myself :)
There is crime in Russia too ..
Same over here
But US is the biggest predator in the world right now mainly because others fear the bomb.
Now that everybody and their cat has nukes the fear for the US decreases.
Others group together and the US \'Mafia\' has the choice of taking a step back or being nuked into oblivion
History ... Roman Empire
In a war situation most likely US solders will take a knee
:)

Completely irrelevant to your original point. Little
more than a disgruntled rant.
 
On a sunny day (Sat, 19 Mar 2022 10:11:13 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t14a81$ia2$2@dont-email.me>:

On 19/03/22 07:42, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 20:55:21 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12rjp$7gh$2@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 18:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:09:26 +0000) it happened Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <t12hsm$aek$3@dont-email.me>:

On 18/03/22 16:25, Jan Panteltje wrote:

was watching Russian TV and I did see / feel a sense of unity there that I do not - and have
not seen in the US in ages.

I presume you watched Putin on TV yesterday, calling
for a \"self purification of Russia\".

Now where/when did we hear similar statements before?

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1504235879996534787
and probably elsewhere.

Think US is all over, just last bits of noise from a dying empire.
They do have a tendency towards smug self-congratulation that
they are the most favoured country. The UK was similar in the
19th and first half of the 20th century.

That doesn\'t make Russia a decent place.

Never been there, been to East Germany before the wall fell,
noted nothing bad about it.

So did I, amongst several other relevant things.

The GDR border guards were /very/ touchy, and people had to be
very careful not to irritate them. Things like keeping western
glossy magazines out of site, not bringing East German currency
out.

In East Berlin, I went in the best department store, on Alexander
Platz - because they forced visitors to spend some money in
East Germany. The *only* thing I found to buy were a few postcards.

I know someone whose job was to see how well the BBC
was being received. He was frequently harassed.

I know someone that divorced (so his wife could come back to
the UK), crawled under the wall, and was remarried.

Summary: you must have been blind.

I can tell you the same about US, and I _have_ seen bad things there.

I\'ve seen and experienced unsavoury things in the US.
My parents returned after 19 months in Pittsburg partly
because of that. I don\'t remember that because I was a
toddler.


Beauty is in the beholders eye...
Same over here.
Human nature
East Germany felt a lot safer than United States,
But I did see West Side Story before I went to the US and became part of it myself :)
There is crime in Russia too ..
Same over here
But US is the biggest predator in the world right now mainly because others fear the bomb.
Now that everybody and their cat has nukes the fear for the US decreases.
Others group together and the US \'Mafia\' has the choice of taking a step back or being nuked into oblivion
History ... Roman Empire
In a war situation most likely US solders will take a knee
:)

Completely irrelevant to your original point. Little
more than a disgruntled rant.

Looks like you are still a toddler
Try understanding what I wrote when you grow up.

No Empire Yet has persisted

Bye Bye America Bye
what will be left is some black warlords fighting among each other and cooking the victims in big pots
for breakfast.

When archaeologists perhaps dig up the statute of glibbery and hundreds of old cellphones
they will wonder:
\"How did they make those things back in the twentieth century?\"

That is if the humming species persists past the nuclear glowball wars
Did the last male Dino eat the last female Dino and did that species end that way?
They needed BIG food
(of course the last female Dino could have eaten the last male Dino, just to be po-littter-cally right, these days).
 

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