Adjusting an atomizer circuit...

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 6:06:23 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:15:08 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 06:01:47 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 20:53:43 +0100, Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
mandag den 11. april 2022 kl. 16.53.13 UTC+2 skrev Commander Kinsey:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:47:19 +0100, Arie de Muijnck <eternal....@ademu.com> wrote:
On 2022-04-11 16:31, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

<snip>

Our water company adds limestone or something to protect the pipes.
The water supply here is naturally a bit acidic.

Amazing they can\'t just make it pure. This is the 21st century right?

Of course they could make it pure. Distillation has been around for very long time. It isn\'t cheap, and while there are now plenty of cheaper methods making water softer. or cleaner or whatever, why bother when what comes down a river or out of well is clean enough?

Humans evolved to cope with drinking surface fresh water, and municipal governments are discouraged from spending more than they have to on keeping the tap water more or less drinkable. Sometimes they don\'t spend quite enough..

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/flint-water-crisis-everything-you-need-know

America is a great source of horrible examples. In the UK somebody would have slapped a D-notice on the problem, and there wouldn\'t be anything to post a link to.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:43:59 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 06:16:06 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-12, Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

[...]

Our water company adds limestone or something to protect the pipes.
The water supply here is naturally a bit acidic.

We have copper pipes in the residences, but I don\'t know if the city supply
uses copper, pvc or abs.

More likely polyethylene, iron, lead, asbestos, or even wood.

Or sometimes vitrified clay here, flower pot material. Very fragile.

Wood pipes in Dutch Flat, CA:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ezi7utkoldlbofv/AADyOUIheVZMS0P3J_vFEjpfa?dl=0

Which one of those 15 files should I look at? This one looks metal:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ezi7utkoldlbofv/AADyOUIheVZMS0P3J_vFEjpfa?dl=0&preview=Big_Mon.JPG

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:54:32 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 08:05:18 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:18:46 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 06:02:30 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 00:41:37 +0100, Randy Patzkowski <randyp@redacted.org> wrote:

On 4/11/2022 10:31:33 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Don\'t ultrasonic humidifiers cause mineral deposition nearby? Maybe
not if one uses good distilled water.

Last October I installed an Aprilaire 500M whole house humidifier on our furnace and plumbed it in to the reverse osmosis water system.
Checked the water evaporator panel this spring and it still looked brand new.

WTF is a \"reverse osmosis water system\"?

Ask Mister Google!

Not interested, just wondering why anyone needs anything so complicated.

You define yourself by the things that you are not interested in.

Most people are not interested in 99% of stuff. There\'s too many things to take an interest in a large amount of them.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:55:42 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 21:06:34 +0100, Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

[...]

I have an ancient (1960-vintage) DeVilbiss mains-powered vapourizer
that
we use when somebody has a lower-respiratory bug.  It\'s a glass jar
holding a gallon or so, and a Bakelite lid containing two plated steel
electrodes that get dunked into the water.  They\'re covered by a
Bakelite cylinder with a hole in the bottom, and the steam from the
boiling water gets directed out a hole in the top.

The steam production can be regulated with a little bit of borax in
the
water if needed.  (Salt works but eventually eats the electrodes.)

Simple, works great, no moving parts, no Legionnaire\'s disease or lime
dust on the rug.  Cheap on eBay.  Good Medicine.

It does heat the room a little bit, but not enough to worry about.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

How long does it take to evaporate a gallon?

My ultrasonic mister takes about 24 hrs to evaporate 4 litres, which is
1.06 gallons. This raises the humidity from 20% to 40% and stops the
chapped lips and sore sinuses. The white film that covers everything is
harmless and is a small price to pay, but I wonder if a steamer could
do as
well.

It would increase the temperature, so you\'d then need to use AC which
would remove the humidity!

Not a big problem in the parts of Canada that are very dry in the
winter.

Dry and cold don\'t go together well.  Cold always means 100% RH.

Not indoors. And that\'s far from always true even outdoors--not
everywhere does cold mud as well as you Brits, after all. (The Dutch
have you beat there, but not by much.)

In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:16:06 +0100, Jasen Betts
usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-12, Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

[...]

Our water company adds limestone or something to protect the pipes.
The water supply here is naturally a bit acidic.

We have copper pipes in the residences, but I don\'t know if the city
supply
uses copper, pvc or abs.

More likely polyethylene, iron, lead, asbestos, or even wood.

Wooden pipes WTF?

A wooden water main in lower Manhattan burst a few years ago--it had
been made by boring a hole along the length of a huge log. Lasted over
250 years IIRC.

Inner cities that haven\'t been devastated by war recently can have some
pretty old infrastructure.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:41:08 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:55:42 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 21:06:34 +0100, Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

[...]

I have an ancient (1960-vintage) DeVilbiss mains-powered vapourizer
that
we use when somebody has a lower-respiratory bug. It\'s a glass jar
holding a gallon or so, and a Bakelite lid containing two plated steel
electrodes that get dunked into the water. They\'re covered by a
Bakelite cylinder with a hole in the bottom, and the steam from the
boiling water gets directed out a hole in the top.

The steam production can be regulated with a little bit of borax in
the
water if needed. (Salt works but eventually eats the electrodes.)

Simple, works great, no moving parts, no Legionnaire\'s disease or lime
dust on the rug. Cheap on eBay. Good Medicine.

It does heat the room a little bit, but not enough to worry about.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

How long does it take to evaporate a gallon?

My ultrasonic mister takes about 24 hrs to evaporate 4 litres, which is
1.06 gallons. This raises the humidity from 20% to 40% and stops the
chapped lips and sore sinuses. The white film that covers everything is
harmless and is a small price to pay, but I wonder if a steamer could
do as
well.

It would increase the temperature, so you\'d then need to use AC which
would remove the humidity!

Not a big problem in the parts of Canada that are very dry in the
winter.

Dry and cold don\'t go together well. Cold always means 100% RH.

Not indoors.

If you\'re indoors you can\'t blame the outdoors.

And that\'s far from always true even outdoors--not
everywhere does cold mud as well as you Brits, after all. (The Dutch
have you beat there, but not by much.)

I find heat is caused by sunny weather, which is dryer.

In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:43:10 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:16:06 +0100, Jasen Betts
usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-12, Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

[...]

Our water company adds limestone or something to protect the pipes.
The water supply here is naturally a bit acidic.

We have copper pipes in the residences, but I don\'t know if the city
supply
uses copper, pvc or abs.

More likely polyethylene, iron, lead, asbestos, or even wood.

Wooden pipes WTF?

A wooden water main in lower Manhattan burst a few years ago--it had
been made by boring a hole along the length of a huge log. Lasted over
250 years IIRC.

Inner cities that haven\'t been devastated by war recently can have some
pretty old infrastructure.

I\'m surprised it\'s watertight, and that it doesn\'t rot.

 

[server]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:04:32 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:43:59 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 06:16:06 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-12, Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

[...]

Our water company adds limestone or something to protect the pipes.
The water supply here is naturally a bit acidic.

We have copper pipes in the residences, but I don\'t know if the city supply
uses copper, pvc or abs.

More likely polyethylene, iron, lead, asbestos, or even wood.

Or sometimes vitrified clay here, flower pot material. Very fragile.

Wood pipes in Dutch Flat, CA:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ezi7utkoldlbofv/AADyOUIheVZMS0P3J_vFEjpfa?dl=0

Which one of those 15 files should I look at? This one looks metal:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ezi7utkoldlbofv/AADyOUIheVZMS0P3J_vFEjpfa?dl=0&preview=Big_Mon.JPG

Don\'t look at any of them. They wouldn\'t interest you anyhow.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Commander Kinsey wrote:

In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH.  It\'s dangerous to leave your bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[server]

amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote in news:t3599h$d1a$1@dont-email.me:

On 4/12/2022 1:31 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:4573f2a6-4b30-fd71-1cc3-e477d328f6cc@electrooptical.net:

Are you sure the transducer isn\'t focused?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Are not piezo wafers all quite flat?

It could be frequency tuned to respond best at a specific
depth.
Transducers are fairly high Q devices and capacitive, you
generally need a series inductor to tune them. Although I think
some circuits actually use the
L and transducer C for tuning and use a power oscillator. So they
will oscillate at the
correct frequency for a replaced transducer, within reason.
              Mikek

I also made a Piezo stack stimulator amplifier which was 2kW and was
20Hz to 20kHz range. The output included a HUGE coil in a huge
ferrite core pair. Those were fun to wind. It had an 18 inch long
heat sink for the row of drivers it had on it. Have to mount them
all, and THEN solder the heavy legs to keep it all coplanar to the
sink. It also had two 2kVA transformers sitting in the bottom of the
cabinet.

It drove a stack of Piezo chips about 30mm in diameter and a
hundred tall (4 inches) for a total deflection of just over one
millimeter, which we doubled with a 2:1 rocker arm which drove a
presicion lathe cutting tool. That coupled with a feedback loop on
the lathe allowed for optical quality surfaces and it was used to cut
perfect \'molds\' for 1 inch diameter contact lenses for race horses.

That was a fun development.

 

[server]

amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote in news:t35bmq$qml$1@dont-email.me:

On 4/12/2022 2:03 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
news:4573f2a6-4b30-fd71-1cc3-e477d328f6cc@electrooptical.net:

Are you sure the transducer isn\'t focused?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Are not piezo wafers all quite flat?

   It could be frequency tuned to respond best at a specific
depth.


Focused transducers are pretty common in applications--dunno if
they\'re used in super low-end stuff like vapourizers.

Cranking up the power doesn\'t help so much if you\'re just causing
cavitation at a submerged acoustic focus.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 Somewhere, I have an interesting curve showing the power
required to
cause cavitation in water.

I found the graph.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/07dgqxafqbm4f8x/Cavitation%20paint.jpg?d
l=0
Note: Cavitation threshold is dependent on whether the water is
degassed or not.

At low Ultrasonic frequencies it takes little power to get
cavitation (on or near the faceplate), but as you move up
to several hundred Kilohertz it takes much more power. When I
first started with the company, they used
transducers around 400kHz, but shortly changed to 620kHz. As I
mention we pulsed a 2\" PZT 8 ceramic disk,
epoxied to a 1/16\" aluminum faceplate with 1000 watts and didn\'t
have cavitation on the faceplate.
We did have a reflector that would focus the beam to a point and
we would get a fuzzy cottony looking
area that made a hissing sound. We could also melt plastic in an
ice water bath.
 Transducer held up under power, heat was the problem, so our
transducer was run in an ice bath with an FEP Teflon window
separating the Fluid under test from the Ice Bath. One of our
customers found PTFE Teflon windows caused failed experiments.
 He was killing e.coli in milk and was getting high kill rates,
then
had a tear in his Teflon window, he got some new Teflon windows
(PTFE) and could not get his high kill rates again. Lots of phone
calls before that was solved, because we didn\'t know either.
                                 
   Mikek

Sounds like it could be used to prevent cavitation on propellers
for subs. Shame though that it is acoustic. Like raising a flag (or
firing up a boom box) saying \"Here I am!\"

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:54:45 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:04:32 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:43:59 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 06:16:06 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-12, Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

[...]

Our water company adds limestone or something to protect the pipes.
The water supply here is naturally a bit acidic.

We have copper pipes in the residences, but I don\'t know if the city supply
uses copper, pvc or abs.

More likely polyethylene, iron, lead, asbestos, or even wood.

Or sometimes vitrified clay here, flower pot material. Very fragile.

Wood pipes in Dutch Flat, CA:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ezi7utkoldlbofv/AADyOUIheVZMS0P3J_vFEjpfa?dl=0

Which one of those 15 files should I look at? This one looks metal:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ezi7utkoldlbofv/AADyOUIheVZMS0P3J_vFEjpfa?dl=0&preview=Big_Mon.JPG
Don\'t look at any of them. They wouldn\'t interest you anyhow.

Anyway, please learn basic English.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air. Yor nose warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH.  It\'s dangerous to leave your
bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts.  Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air.  Yor nose
warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

Because I almost choked to death.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:01:23 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your
bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air. Yor nose
warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

Because I almost choked to death.

Nobody\'s that fragile. Imagine the animals outside....

 

[server]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:59:40 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:01:23 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your
bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air. Yor nose
warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

Because I almost choked to death.

Nobody\'s that fragile. Imagine the animals outside....

I\'m sure glad you don\'t design electronics.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:28:31 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:59:40 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:01:23 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your
bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air. Yor nose
warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

Because I almost choked to death.

Nobody\'s that fragile. Imagine the animals outside....

I\'m sure glad you don\'t design electronics.

WTF has that do with the breathing of animals?

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 12:49:09 AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:28:31 +0100, <jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:59:40 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
C...@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:01:23 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your bedroom window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air. Your nose
warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

Because I almost choked to death.

Nobody\'s that fragile. Imagine the animals outside....

Of course if they were liable to die if the air got very dry, people wouldn\'t keep them outside. Human beings get to chose their own environments, and even people as smart as Phil Hobbs can make a poor choice from time to time.

I\'m sure glad you don\'t design electronics.

WTF has that do with the breathing of animals?

It\'s John Larkin\'s standard insult. He thinks that he designs electronics and other - inferior - people don\'t. What he posts about his design process here isn\'t all that impressive, but it seems to work for him, if not quite as well as he seems to think.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:49:00 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:28:31 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:59:40 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:01:23 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your
bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air. Yor nose
warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

Because I almost choked to death.

Nobody\'s that fragile. Imagine the animals outside....

I\'m sure glad you don\'t design electronics.

WTF has that do with the breathing of animals?

Your comments show that you are all emotion and no rationality. That\'s
the norm in humans, actually.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 16:28:33 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:49:00 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:28:31 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:59:40 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:01:23 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:02:41 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote:


In places like New Mexico, it\'s far from unusual to have sub-freezing
temperatures with single-digit RH. It\'s dangerous to leave your
bedroom
window open even a crack in those conditions, as I found out one time
about a decade ago.

Why would that be dangerous?

Glues all the parts of your throat to all the other parts. Unpleasant
waking up like that.

I find it best to breathe through your nose in unpleasant air. Yor nose
warms and dampens the air ready for the lungs.

And why did you say dangerous when you meant unpleasant?

Because I almost choked to death.

Nobody\'s that fragile. Imagine the animals outside....

I\'m sure glad you don\'t design electronics.

WTF has that do with the breathing of animals?

Your comments show that you are all emotion and no rationality. That\'s
the norm in humans, actually.

No, I detest emotions, emotions are for girls.

Again, what electronics are used in an open window, some cold dry air, and an old codger with a tracheal problem?