A Product Design Invitation

[Pig Bladder]

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:52:34 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

what part of "ghost-town newsgroup" are you having trouble
understanding?

...and you are predicting the future of a newsgroup that is
just starting -- how?

By the power of observation?
--
The Pig Bladder from Uranus

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:52:34 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

what part of "ghost-town newsgroup" are you having trouble
understanding?

...and you are predicting the future of a newsgroup that is
just starting -- how?

Keep it up for just a little while more, Guy, and you will learn
the meaning of "attack".

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 22:30:51 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

Bob Stephens wrote:

Speaking of the future 'Doc Brown', Haven't you left yet?

Well of course! You *know* that Doc Brown always comes back!

(It was interesting seeing the reaction to that sig. I got one
nice three-week consulting job from somene who looked at my web
page because of it, but otherwise it was pretty ineffective.)

And the electronic design content is this post is where, exactly?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Guy Macon]

Tony Williams wrote:

You slyly added that newsgroup yourself.

That's the point I am trying to get across. It is foolish to allow
someone else to control where your posts go, and even more foolish to
whine about the results of your own foolish decisions.

 

[Guy Macon]

Rich Grise wrote:

And the electronic design content is this post is where, exactly?

Point well taken. When you are right, you are right, and this is
clearly a case where you are right and I was wrong.

My apologies to the esteemed Mr. Grise.

 

[Rich The Newsgroup Wacko]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:33:44 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

And the electronic design content is this post is where, exactly?

Point well taken. When you are right, you are right, and this is
clearly a case where you are right and I was wrong.

My apologies to the esteemed Mr. Grise.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaaaaa!

O Frabjous Day, Callooh, Callay!
--
Cheers!
Rich
------
"Bridget O'Flaherty McHugh
Held venal traffic with a gnu.
Mistaking fore for aft one morn
Impaled herself upon its horn.
Moral: Those who seek high ends should shun our furred and feathered friends."
[WTF? This isn't even a Limerick. WTF am I doing reformatting
the stupid thing? And even as doggerel, it's not even a passable Burma
Shave sign.]

Don't screw
A Gnu,
Or done
With You.
Burma Shave.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHhhhhaaaaaaa!!!

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:33:44 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

And the electronic design content is this post is where, exactly?

Point well taken. When you are right, you are right, and this is
clearly a case where you are right and I was wrong.

My apologies to the esteemed Mr. Grise.

Thank you, Guy. I accept your apology in all seriousness.
Please pay no attention to those little boys playing behind my
various nyms.

In the spirit of good will, of course, I'll make an earnest effort
to keep the Rich Grise persona focused on technical matters, unless the
subject line is clearly marked 'OT:' or the thread has been extant for
such a long time that even our Grand Masters are opining.

Deal?

Thought so. I agree too.

Thanks!
Rich

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:47:37 GMT, Rich The Newsgroup Wacko
<wacko@example.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:33:44 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:
Rich Grise wrote:

And the electronic design content is this post is where, exactly?

Point well taken. When you are right, you are right, and this is
clearly a case where you are right and I was wrong.

My apologies to the esteemed Mr. Grise.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaaaaa!

O Frabjous Day, Callooh, Callay!

He chortled in his joy.


John

 

[Guy Macon]

Rich Grise wrote:

Guy Macon wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

And the electronic design content is this post is where, exactly?

Point well taken. When you are right, you are right, and this is
clearly a case where you are right and I was wrong.

My apologies to the esteemed Mr. Grise.

Thank you, Guy. I accept your apology in all seriousness.

Thanks! It was a serious apology, because you were right

Please pay no attention to those little boys playing behind my
various nyms.

In the spirit of good will, of course, I'll make an earnest effort
to keep the Rich Grise persona focused on technical matters, unless the
subject line is clearly marked 'OT:' or the thread has been extant for
such a long time that even our Grand Masters are opining.

Deal?

Thought so. I agree too.

Actually, I very much appreciate your use of nyms. It allows me to
make a choice; read the fun/foolish things or the serious things.
I wish others followed your policy.

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:43:38 -0700, Bob Monsen wrote:

Guy Macon wrote:
[some other stuff]
Bob Monsen wrote:
[some stuff]
I'm not about to clutter this group with more nonsense. You are quite
good at starting flame wars, then sitting back and laughing as it roars
on.

He's not laughing. He's terrified. I once[1] was where he is,
psychologically/socially - Guy Macon is still a Nerd. The Classic
Geek, who hasn't yet moved out of the dorm room, emotionally.

You are a troll.

Lighten up! He's only a Nerd. And Nerds are not only about the most
welcome people there are around s.e.d, but they're about the only
people who would even be interested in lurking and/or participating
at sci.electronics.design.

We're Grownups! We can take a little ribbing now and then!

I'd advise folks who are thinking of trying this
new strategy to look over Guy's recent 'contributions' to this group.

Yeah, yeah, covered that just recently.

I stated the facts as I see them. You are free to characterize them any
way you wish, and to attempt to mislead readers. That is the essence of
an unmoderated newsgroup.

Yup. There ya are. Need you say more? ;-P ;-P ;-P

What I stated is true. Any post cross-posted to your silly little
kingdom can be edited or prohibited by you, regardless of your
protestations to the contrary. You can stop posts to an unmoderated
newsgroup if they have been cross-posted.

Now _you're_ being petulant. Don't do that! (and BTW, FYI, there's
no way he can stop some other person's post to an unmoderated
newsgroup even if it _has_ been crossposted. What he _might_ be
able to do is spoof some headers and do in-line editing, much
like I'm doo\^H^Ho^Hing rith^H^Hght now. ;-J )

Go away. Please.

Hey! I've got an idea! Let's all go out and play
"Hide-n-go fuck yourself"!

You are wasting everyone's time.

You presume to speak for "everyone"? Can you name those for whom you
speak? Thanks.

Actually, at this
point, by replying to you, I'm wasting folks time.

Bullshit! I'm having the time of my life! What are my options? Watch
TeeVee? ;^J <- BTW, if anybody hasn't figured out that smiley yet,
turn your head leftwise, such that this <-- is up. [Damn! Come to
think of it, that's the way most ASCII smileys are read already!
Never mind. -- ed.]

I'll not comment
further. Feel free to have the last word.

OK! ;-D ;-D ;-D
--
Cheers!
Rich

[1] Yeah, about the first 24 years of my life. "one time" doesn't say
"for how long of a time?". Learning Electronics has side bennies. ;^J
[<RtNW> Me, Too!]
[<PBfU> No Comment.]
[<RtP> Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...]
[<RtT> Well, it _is_ both marked 'OT' _and_ I signed it, "The
Dreaded Libertarian". He (RTDL) needs to get out and play sometimes
too, expecially[sic] when the psycho PHB pops into my office and
hands me his pot dregs.]
</overshare>

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 05:15:35 +0000, Roger Johansson wrote:

Bob Monsen wrote:

Also, given your propensity for attempting to mislead people by
taking quotes out of context, and then taking the position against
this staged position, I'd suggest that you simply aren't trustworthy
enough for this task. You have no honor.

He also set a Follow-Up-to dev.null in a message to you, Bob.
If you had replied to that msg your reply would have been thrown in the
waste bin in your own computer, and would never have been published in
the newsgroup. It could have locked up your computer or caused some
strange problem.

Such dirty tricks do we not expect, and especially not from somebody
who thinks he is qualified to be a moderator.

We have to keep an eye on the headers as long as he is around.

If he tries to crosspost messages between his moderated group and free
newsgroups...

Actually, I kinda think that setting followups-to to, well, dev.null
might be a little extremem - thank The Great Roulette Wheel In The
Sky that it wasn't /dev/null! ;-) - but setting it to something like
alt.null is actually kind of clever - it lets you get the last word
in a thread, except for those who are astute enough to notice, _and_
who care to participate in the little sandbox pissing contest. O

Thanks!
Rich

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 08:38:52 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

Roger Johansson wrote:

We have to keep an eye on the headers

You should try taking responsibility for where your posts go rather
than letting other people control you. I believe that XanaNews
makes the newsgroups line fully visible and fully editable. It is
rather foolish to allow the person you are replying to to make the
decisions as to where your reply is posted, and even more foolish
to whine about the consequences of your bad choices.

Yeah, but it's kinda fun to watch when there's nothing on TeeVee.

It could have locked up your computer or caused some strange problem.

Why is it that the folks who do the most flaming are the ones who
always seem to make the technical blunders when they post? Is it
because they are so consumed with flaming that they ave spent a
lifetime being unable to learn?

Yeah, that's it.

I challenge you to name a single newsreader that will "lock up your
computer" or "cause some strange problem" because of a followup set
to alt.dev.null.

Guh-hyuk!
--
The Pig Bladder from Uranus, still waiting for that hot babe to
ask me what my favorite planet is.

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:07:32 +0000, Roger Johansson wrote:

Guy Macon wrote:

I challenge you to name a single newsreader that will "lock up your
computer" or "cause some strange problem" because of a followup set
to alt.dev.null.

I clearly remember someone who got problems with his computer or the
newsreader program after being alt.dev.nulled, so to speak. I have seen
that trick being applied a number of times, and sometimes it does not
only cause despair and confusion for the person who tries to reply,
which is probably what you intended.

It could only happen to a Dozer.
--
The Pig Bladder from Uranus

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 09:26:27 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

Roger Johansson wrote:
Guy Macon wrote:

I challenge you to name a single newsreader that will "lock up your
computer" or "cause some strange problem" because of a followup set
to alt.dev.null.

I clearly remember someone who got problems with his computer or the
newsreader program after being alt.dev.nulled, so to speak.

Correlation does not prove causation. You have no idea why that
computer had problems. There are many causes of computer problems,
and it is a fallacy to assume you know that X causes Y just because
X happened after Y one time.

You know that the antismokerists will have you burned at the stake
before they'll ever admit to that.

This is assuming ...

These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along, now.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Guy Macon]

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

- but setting it to something like alt.null is actually kind of
clever - it lets you get the last word in a thread, except for
those who are astute enough to notice,

...and a valuable lesson to those who aren't...

_and_ who care to participate in the little sandbox pissing contest. O

<grin>

Alas, Supernews gives me a "newsgroup does not exist" error for alt.null.
Alt.dev.null is a real newsgroup, and thus does not throw an error.

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 02:26:26 -0700, Richard Henry wrote:

Prove that none will.

Are you a witch/communist/terrorist/pervert/child molester/...?

No?

PROVE IT!!!!!
--
The Pig Bladder from Uranus
[there's really an alt.sex.fetish.jello?]

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:10:18 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
....
Thought so. I agree too.

Actually, I very much appreciate your use of nyms. It allows me to
make a choice; read the fun/foolish things or the serious things.
I wish others followed your policy.

There really aren't that many that are _that_ annoying, and I admit I
have the time to spare to go ahead and scan stuff and figure out if a
thread is taking a direction I don't like, and just shift-click mark as
read the rest of the thread, and go on to enjoy the rest of the day's
posts.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Guy Macon]

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

He's not laughing. He's terrified.

My actual internal mental state is detached amusement.

Guy Macon is still a Nerd. The Classic Geek

Guilty as charged. (You, of course, defy catagorization)

FYI, there's no way he can stop some other person's
post to an unmoderated newsgroup even if it _has_
been crossposted.

You are incorrect. If someone crossposts between a moderated
newsgroup and an unmoderated newsgroup, the moderator can
approve or reject the post. That's how alt.dev.null works;
it is simply a moderated newsgroup that rejects every post.

What he _might_ be able to do is spoof some headers and do
in-line editing

Emphasis on "Might be able to." Both are against my moderation
policy. If someone posts something, they should be able to
expect that their words not be altered. That's why the title
is "moderator" and not "editor."

I'll not comment
further. Feel free to have the last word.

OK! ;-D ;-D ;-D

Another promise made, another promise soon to be broken.

 

[Guy Macon]

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along, now.

.... These ... aren't ... the ... droids ... I ... am ...
looking ... for ... Move ... along ... now ...

Huh? I'm sorry, I wasn't paying attention there for a moment.

 

[Guy Macon]

Rich Grise wrote:

There really aren't that many that are _that_ annoying, and I admit I
have the time to spare to go ahead and scan stuff and figure out if a
thread is taking a direction I don't like, and just shift-click mark as
read the rest of the thread, and go on to enjoy the rest of the day's
posts.

Alas, they have a habit of suddenly injecting a post about electronics
design into a political flamewar, so you have to scan the whole thing
if you don't want to miss the on-topic part.