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jmfbahciv
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Rod Speed wrote:
/BAH
You really don't know much about farming.
That depends.
tax.
/BAH
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John Larkin
Guest
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:25:12 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv@aol> wrote:
John
Never vote for anyone with charisma.
John
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Rod Speed
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jmfbahciv wrote
You cant even manage your own lines.
Nope.
Duh.
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Bret Cahill
Guest
Maybe a really sophisticated video game could teach how to think
outside the box.
Bret Cahill
outside the box.
Bret Cahill
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John Fields
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On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:29:39 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
/BAH for president!!!
JF
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
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/BAH for president!!!
JF
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jmfbahciv
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John Fields wrote:
/BAH
/BAH
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jmfbahciv
Guest
Rod Speed wrote:
<snip>
/BAH
Huh?
<snip>
/BAH
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jmfbahciv
Guest
John Larkin wrote:
/BAH
to define what IP is.On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:25:12 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv@aol> wrote:
John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:11:55 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:56:56 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:
There's something about agriculture that encourages invention.
Monotony I expect.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...@netfront.net ---
Nah, mostly poverty and isolation. You have to get the job done, or the
crops fail and you lose your farm. Puts a premium on being able to keep
things working and to improvise.
A recent issue of IEEE Spectrum had an article about the power plant
engineers in Gaza restarting their plant by collecting almost 200 car
batteries. Same deal, different situation.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Framing is very competitive; you live or die by crop yield.
Like all futures traders they are all hoping for some disaster that
will wipe out the competition and limit supply.
But unlike lawyers and futures traders, farmers actually make useful
stuff.
---
Not only that,
"The American farmer is the only man in our economy
who buys everything he buys at retail, sells everything
he sells at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy, 9-22-1960
JF
Shows how stupid he was.
/BAH
Never vote for anyone with charisma.
Nobody will listen to you. I'm still waiting for the OP
/BAH
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Bret Cahill
Guest
RS once accused me of "pulling out of my arse" figures about grid
electricity costing 10 - 15 cents/ kWhr in the U. S.
I wasn't prepared for that one and started wondering if maybe they had
a 200% tax on electricity in the UK like they do petrol and 2-oil.
Bret Cahill
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Rod Speed
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Bret Cahill wrote:
Caught lying, yet again.
No they dont. And that soggy little island is completely irrelevant anyway.
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Jon Slaughter
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John Larkin wrote:
seeing it in sci.math).
Second, It seems any time you have a disagreement with someone you state
some project for your job you are working on then say "What are you working
on?" or "Design any interesting electronics lately?" as if it it has
anything to do with the discussion. You seem to do this because you think
that it adds to your "proof by authority" argument that you seem to like to
use. This is what I object too.
Again, if your just seriously trying to discuss such things for fun and not
ego then just ignore what I'm saying... to me, the way you bring this stuff
up sounds as if your just trying to use things that you work on to say "I'm
smarter than you" type of crap.
for example:
"
John"
WTF does electronics have to do with the topic and anything else in this
thread. You are the one who brought up electronics and using it as some sort
of logic argument or so you can post what you work on... again, all
irrelevant to the subject. I've seen you do this countless times when
someone disagree's with you or says something you do not like.
I'm pretty confident that is the only reason you say this stuff and not
because that question is honest. It is rhetorical and is your attempt to
shut him up. i.e., If he answers no to "Design any interesting electronics
lately?" then you can use that as evidence of his ignorance. You can then
bring in something you have "worked on"(which could mean anything) as
evidence of your intelligence and superiority over him. If he says yes then
you can get in an e-penis match to find out who's is bigger. Of course, the
whole time being completely illogical as his electronics prowess is
irrelevant to politics or social issues.
The mere fact that you need to post things you work on(something that you
probably play a very small part in and are required to do for work) to
"prove" that you are intelligent hints that you are not that intelligent or
have some need for people to recognize it.
So, "Have you composed any sonata's lately?", "Have you wrote any advanced
software programs lately?", "Have you proved any previously unproven
mathematical theorems lately?", "Have you run any 10k Marithons lately?",
"Have you done anything besides what your job requires of you lately?",
"Have any patents recently?", etc... etc... etc... etc... etc... etc...
Of course all these questions can be serious inquiries about what a person
has done but it definitely seems like you use them in a rhetorical way.
Basically this is analogous to what you are doing: Lets suppose you are
pianist. You get together with a group of friends an a new person shows up.
There is a piano and you sit down to play it to entertain. After you sit
get up the new person sits down and plays the piano. This person either
performs as well or better than you. You then ask the person "Design any
interesting electronics lately?".
Your question is irrelevant and a straw man argument. Again, this is what I
object too. If you didn't do it all the time it wouldn't be so bad... Of
course I expect a few of your budies that use the same tactics to come to
your defense.
Now if it was a serious question and you were truly interested if he has
designed any new electronics then just ignore what I have said. I seriously
down this is the case considering the context.
First, it is a multi-group post so it's just not about electronics(I'm
seeing it in sci.math).
Second, It seems any time you have a disagreement with someone you state
some project for your job you are working on then say "What are you working
on?" or "Design any interesting electronics lately?" as if it it has
anything to do with the discussion. You seem to do this because you think
that it adds to your "proof by authority" argument that you seem to like to
use. This is what I object too.
Again, if your just seriously trying to discuss such things for fun and not
ego then just ignore what I'm saying... to me, the way you bring this stuff
up sounds as if your just trying to use things that you work on to say "I'm
smarter than you" type of crap.
for example:
"
Design any interesting electronics lately?
John"
WTF does electronics have to do with the topic and anything else in this
thread. You are the one who brought up electronics and using it as some sort
of logic argument or so you can post what you work on... again, all
irrelevant to the subject. I've seen you do this countless times when
someone disagree's with you or says something you do not like.
I'm pretty confident that is the only reason you say this stuff and not
because that question is honest. It is rhetorical and is your attempt to
shut him up. i.e., If he answers no to "Design any interesting electronics
lately?" then you can use that as evidence of his ignorance. You can then
bring in something you have "worked on"(which could mean anything) as
evidence of your intelligence and superiority over him. If he says yes then
you can get in an e-penis match to find out who's is bigger. Of course, the
whole time being completely illogical as his electronics prowess is
irrelevant to politics or social issues.
The mere fact that you need to post things you work on(something that you
probably play a very small part in and are required to do for work) to
"prove" that you are intelligent hints that you are not that intelligent or
have some need for people to recognize it.
So, "Have you composed any sonata's lately?", "Have you wrote any advanced
software programs lately?", "Have you proved any previously unproven
mathematical theorems lately?", "Have you run any 10k Marithons lately?",
"Have you done anything besides what your job requires of you lately?",
"Have any patents recently?", etc... etc... etc... etc... etc... etc...
Of course all these questions can be serious inquiries about what a person
has done but it definitely seems like you use them in a rhetorical way.
Basically this is analogous to what you are doing: Lets suppose you are
pianist. You get together with a group of friends an a new person shows up.
There is a piano and you sit down to play it to entertain. After you sit
get up the new person sits down and plays the piano. This person either
performs as well or better than you. You then ask the person "Design any
interesting electronics lately?".
Your question is irrelevant and a straw man argument. Again, this is what I
object too. If you didn't do it all the time it wouldn't be so bad... Of
course I expect a few of your budies that use the same tactics to come to
your defense.
Now if it was a serious question and you were truly interested if he has
designed any new electronics then just ignore what I have said. I seriously
down this is the case considering the context.
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jmfbahciv
Guest
Bret Cahill wrote:
/BAH
farming. Are you writing these nonsense lines to avoid learning?
/BAH
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John Larkin
Guest
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:31:51 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"
<Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote:
design and programming in one post ain't bad re on-topicality.
helps me calibrate their abilities. What are you working on?
You seem to do this because you think
and I like to drag things back on-topic now and then. And the fact is,
hardly any science gets done any more without a heavy electronics
involvement, which makes electronics relevant to the physics and
materials groups too.
And the topic was crap. Programming and electronics are a great
improvement.
You are the one who brought up electronics and using it as some sort
opposed to fuzzy blather. You are free to talk anything you want.
to talk about electronics.
What do you do?
John
<Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote:
One group is electronics and one is math, so talking about hardware
design and programming in one post ain't bad re on-topicality.
I'm interested in what, if anything, other posters are working on. It
helps me calibrate their abilities. What are you working on?
You seem to do this because you think
Object all you like if it amuses you. This is usenet.
I post mostly to sci.electronics.design and sci.electronics.basics,
and I like to drag things back on-topic now and then. And the fact is,
hardly any science gets done any more without a heavy electronics
involvement, which makes electronics relevant to the physics and
materials groups too.
And the topic was crap. Programming and electronics are a great
improvement.
You are the one who brought up electronics and using it as some sort
I like to talk about what I and other people are actually doing, as
opposed to fuzzy blather. You are free to talk anything you want.
I'm not super intelligent; I'm an electronics circuit designer. I like
to talk about electronics.
What do you do?
John
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John Larkin
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On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:46:43 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv@aol> wrote:
congressman. Prison would be less tedious.
John
Imagine what sort of twisted personality actually *wants* to be a
congressman. Prison would be less tedious.
John
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Rod Speed
Guest
John Larkin wrote:
Lot better paid than prison and much less chance of getting raped too.
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Bret Cahill
Guest
Public service isn't an easy job. If you aren't fastidious about who
is offering you money you wind up in prison.
I once laughed at the new federal building getting named after Tampa
congressman Sam Gibbons.
"What did he ever do beside get some retiree's social security check
remailed?"
Then I started to back calculate . . .
Bret Cahill
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jmfbahciv
Guest
John Larkin wrote:
/BAH
not a career path.
/BAH
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John Larkin
Guest
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:34:16 -0500, jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv@aol> wrote:
worked among the people they represented. A simpler time fer sure.
John
It was also a part-time job, performed by real people who lived and
worked among the people they represented. A simpler time fer sure.
John
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Bret Cahill
Guest
According to Tocqueville in _Democracy In America_ (1833) poor
Americans went into public service to make money.
Tocqueville said at first it might seem surprising that the American
democracy could flourish with such disreputable sleaze bags in power.
The political scientist then pointed out that was confusing cause and
effect:
"The American democracy doesn't thrive because of the elected
magistrates. It thrives because the public officials are elective."
He went on to say the prince in an aristocracy could have every virtue
and ruin his country while the politician could have every vice and
wind up, in spite of himself, helping his country.
Your ignorance of American political history isn't unique. The _New
York Times_ is always trying to get everyone to believe that Pat
Robertson's brand of fascism came over on the Mayflower when no less
than 7 state constitutions including many from the South prohibited
priests and ministers from holding public office, "and public opinion
prevented it everywhere else."
The historians who wrote the PBS _Civil War_ documentary presented U.
S. Grant's life as interesting because he made and lost his fortune
several times.
In a functional democracy _everyone_ makes and loses many fortunes
over his lifetime.
Historical revisionism isn't unique to the U. S. either. 70 years
after the French Revolution most French attributed widespread property
ownership to their Revolution.
Researching archives and earlier commentary Tocqueville showed in _The
Ancien Regime and the Revolution_ that half the land of France was
owned by the peasants before the Revolution.
Bret Cahill
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Bret Cahill
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At the constitutional convention someone suggested the president work
for free.
Madison answered, "don't depend on patriotism."
Bret Cahill