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Janators perform a useful service."Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article <ip5pn55lbm604s4v4kmut5u55ohe2m9p2v@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Remember? You are the fucking retard that said that lock wire was made
from soft steel!
I take it you didn't read the site of a locking wire supplier I provided
for you? It can be made of a variety of materials. You really need to get
out more from that narrow little environment you're stuck in.
What do you expect from a janitor?
You're an idiot.In article <uneqn5ls31ch2on76colomp40659gvoge1@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
If so, you are dumber than dog shit. LOCK WIRE is ALL stainless. HIGH
GRADE STAINLESS. It is a mission critical assembly element in nearly ANY
AND ALL military assemblies where vibration is introduced.
Who cares about *only* military applications?
No. It was common on brit machinery... maybe. In the US, militaryLock wire was common on vintage cars, etc.
Still used on London Taxis up
until recently
No, IDIOT! Soft iron wire would garner water in the twists and be- may still be. And it is a soft iron wire which can be
twisted easily.
Pet? You really need to eat shit, fucktard.In article <v1fqn5pkrmii3l667tumrdcg2oe5lj5jb8@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
You seem to want to apply terms to whatever you feel like. Bolt cutters
to the man in the street work in the same way as side cutters.
You really are an idiot. There are SEVERAL different varieties and
styles of bolt cutter, dumbass!
You really need to watch your blood pressure, pet.
Again you sport your utter stupidity in the industrial realm.Go into your local tool supplier and ask for some bolt cutters. And then
come back here.
Except that the discussion was about cutting STEEL wire with sideIn article <cefqn5hkbj2597tf1fr5tcftflon13cgk7@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:50:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <436pn59toi0jbl8em2v70luv5dcq5m4rmg@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Seems you know nothing of even US suppliers.
http://www.malinco.com/
It comes in many varieties.
There is NO lock wire that is "soft steel" as you declared, you dumb
fucktard. And all the dancing in the world will not allow you to achieve
escape velocity from your utter stupidity.
LOCK WIRE IS HIGH STRENGTH STAINLESS.
YOU are a goddamned retard.
So that's why they supply it made out of brass, copper, ally etc?
Again you prove that you did not read the very site you posted. They
sell wire. All kinds of wire. The only kind they sell that they refer
to as lock wire is stainless.
Sigh. Let me cut and paste the relevant bit:-
*********
Safety Lock Wire
We supply high quality safety lock wire for use in the Aerospace Industry.
Our aircraft safety lock wire conforms to ASTM, MS and AN specifications
is available in our unique handy dispensing can. Safety lockwire is
available in a wide variety of materials including: brass wire, aluminum
wire, copper wire and stainless steel wire.
*********
Now surely even you can read that? There aren't any really difficult words
in it.
Show me soft steel or soft iron lock wire, you make it up as you goBTW your 'very specialized, high tensile strength wire' definition seems
to have changed somewhat...
Your capacity to grasp any aspect of reality hasn't. It remains firmly
slabbed in at ground level. Zero. The concrete that is holding you
there is made from your own stupidity.
All this from one incapable of reading and understanding simple text?
life imitates life wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:56:20 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
In other words, your still a subhuman bastard.
When will your group abusing ass ever DIE! DIE! DIE!?
Some time after I piss on your gave, dimbulb.
OBTW, in the Navy we used a lot of lock wire made from inconel. Nuts onIn article <cefqn5hkbj2597tf1fr5tcftflon13cgk7@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:50:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <436pn59toi0jbl8em2v70luv5dcq5m4rmg@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Seems you know nothing of even US suppliers.
http://www.malinco.com/
It comes in many varieties.
There is NO lock wire that is "soft steel" as you declared, you dumb
fucktard. And all the dancing in the world will not allow you to achieve
escape velocity from your utter stupidity.
LOCK WIRE IS HIGH STRENGTH STAINLESS.
YOU are a goddamned retard.
So that's why they supply it made out of brass, copper, ally etc?
Again you prove that you did not read the very site you posted. They
sell wire. All kinds of wire. The only kind they sell that they refer
to as lock wire is stainless.
Sigh. Let me cut and paste the relevant bit:-
*********
Safety Lock Wire
We supply high quality safety lock wire for use in the Aerospace Industry.
Our aircraft safety lock wire conforms to ASTM, MS and AN specifications
is available in our unique handy dispensing can. Safety lockwire is
available in a wide variety of materials including: brass wire, aluminum
wire, copper wire and stainless steel wire.
*********
Now surely even you can read that? There aren't any really difficult words
in it.
Never been on a Navy ship have you?On 18 Feb 2010 09:09:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
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"Tie wire"? Is that what you brits call "lock wire"? The wire used to
keep fasteners from becoming loose and falling off of an assembly?
If so, you are dumber than dog shit. LOCK WIRE is ALL stainless. HIGH
GRADE STAINLESS. It is a mission critical assembly element in nearly ANY
AND ALL military assemblies where vibration is introduced.
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:56:06 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article <ip5pn55lbm604s4v4kmut5u55ohe2m9p2v@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Remember? You are the fucking retard that said that lock wire was made
from soft steel!
I take it you didn't read the site of a locking wire supplier I provided
for you? It can be made of a variety of materials. You really need to get
out more from that narrow little environment you're stuck in.
What do you expect from a janitor?
Janators perform a useful service.
"Iconel" is a stainless superalloy. Nice try though.life imitates life wrote:
On 18 Feb 2010 09:09:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
"Tie wire"? Is that what you brits call "lock wire"? The wire used to
keep fasteners from becoming loose and falling off of an assembly?
If so, you are dumber than dog shit. LOCK WIRE is ALL stainless. HIGH
GRADE STAINLESS. It is a mission critical assembly element in nearly ANY
AND ALL military assemblies where vibration is introduced.
Never been on a Navy ship have you?
Bolted flanges in bilges and other areas exposed to seawater use inconel
wire because the bolts and nuts are also made of inconel.
Dissimilar materials in a bilge environment, where you have a lot of
seawater doesn't work very well. Even if one of them is SS.
daestrom
life imitates life wrote:
On 18 Feb 2010 09:09:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
"Tie wire"? Is that what you brits call "lock wire"? The wire used to
keep fasteners from becoming loose and falling off of an assembly?
If so, you are dumber than dog shit. LOCK WIRE is ALL stainless. HIGH
GRADE STAINLESS. It is a mission critical assembly element in nearly ANY
AND ALL military assemblies where vibration is introduced.
Never been on a Navy ship have you?
Bolted flanges in bilges and other areas exposed to seawater use inconel
wire because the bolts and nuts are also made of inconel.
Dissimilar materials in a bilge environment, where you have a lot of
seawater doesn't work very well. Even if one of them is SS.
daestrom
No, I'm talking about tie wire, as used to secure reinforcing beforeOn 18 Feb 2010 09:09:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2010-02-17, life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:44:56 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <qkbln5dscr39tdk0cbnh3v2gpefa48gtdm@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
I have a pair of twister pliers for lock wire. They are not actually
meant to be use to CUT the wire either, even though they have side
cutters incorporated into them. Any monkey knows how to flex fracture
wire that uses a medium that work hardens. That is the right way to
"cut" lock wire. In fact, one is supposed to use the side cutter to
simply score the wire a bit, and then the number of flexes is reduced to
just a few.
Lock wire is soft steel. If you have pliers not able to cut that, put them
back in the kid's play box where they came from.
Lock wire is NOT "soft steel" you complete and utter retard. It is a
very specialized, high tensile strength wire. Soft steel does not get
made into wire AT ALL.
tie wire is soft steel.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
"Tie wire"? Is that what you brits call "lock wire"? The wire used to
keep fasteners from becoming loose and falling off of an assembly?
Calling me that doesn't make it so. I'm an 'idiot' who can read a simpleOn Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:21:39 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <uneqn5ls31ch2on76colomp40659gvoge1@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
If so, you are dumber than dog shit. LOCK WIRE is ALL stainless.
HIGH GRADE STAINLESS. It is a mission critical assembly element in
nearly ANY AND ALL military assemblies where vibration is introduced.
Who cares about *only* military applications?
You're an idiot.
Why do you harp on about what may or may not be used in the military? TheyLock wire was common on vintage cars, etc.
No. It was common on brit machinery... maybe. In the US, military
methodologies like that were NOT used on cars.
Still used on London Taxis up
until recently
And strictly controlled by a licensing authority. Who insist on manyAnd London Taxis are from a 60 year old design, no doubt. Again you
sport your stupidity like a flag.
Now you're being an idiot. No steel or iron rusts through in a matter of- may still be. And it is a soft iron wire which can be
twisted easily.
No, IDIOT! Soft iron wire would garner water in the twists and be
rusted off within a matter of weeks, if not days.
I've probably seen more lock wired nuts and bolts than you've had hotYou are never going to win this, because it is blatantly obvious how
little you know about it.
Those goalposts are very noisy when moved...On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:29:51 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <cefqn5hkbj2597tf1fr5tcftflon13cgk7@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:50:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <436pn59toi0jbl8em2v70luv5dcq5m4rmg@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Seems you know nothing of even US suppliers.
http://www.malinco.com/
It comes in many varieties.
There is NO lock wire that is "soft steel" as you declared, you dumb
fucktard. And all the dancing in the world will not allow you to achieve
escape velocity from your utter stupidity.
LOCK WIRE IS HIGH STRENGTH STAINLESS.
YOU are a goddamned retard.
So that's why they supply it made out of brass, copper, ally etc?
Again you prove that you did not read the very site you posted. They
sell wire. All kinds of wire. The only kind they sell that they refer
to as lock wire is stainless.
Sigh. Let me cut and paste the relevant bit:-
*********
Safety Lock Wire
We supply high quality safety lock wire for use in the Aerospace Industry.
Our aircraft safety lock wire conforms to ASTM, MS and AN specifications
is available in our unique handy dispensing can. Safety lockwire is
available in a wide variety of materials including: brass wire, aluminum
wire, copper wire and stainless steel wire.
*********
Now surely even you can read that? There aren't any really difficult
words in it.
Except that the discussion was about cutting STEEL wire with side
cutters, not ANY softer medium. So NONE of the other materials in your
cut and paste horseshit are even applicable to the discussion, nor where
they ever.
Just admit your 'experience' - if any - is based on a tiny part of theThat is aside from the fact that you could likely NEVER even come up
with an application where one of the other materials is used, and note,
you retarded fuck, where there is NO mention of soft steel OR iron being
one of the available types, so every argument you have spewed here is
again proven to be without merit, and you are proven to be without a
clue.
On 2010-02-18, life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On 18 Feb 2010 09:09:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2010-02-17, life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:44:56 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
In article <qkbln5dscr39tdk0cbnh3v2gpefa48gtdm@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
I have a pair of twister pliers for lock wire. They are not actually
meant to be use to CUT the wire either, even though they have side
cutters incorporated into them. Any monkey knows how to flex fracture
wire that uses a medium that work hardens. That is the right way to
"cut" lock wire. In fact, one is supposed to use the side cutter to
simply score the wire a bit, and then the number of flexes is reduced to
just a few.
Lock wire is soft steel. If you have pliers not able to cut that, put them
back in the kid's play box where they came from.
Lock wire is NOT "soft steel" you complete and utter retard. It is a
very specialized, high tensile strength wire. Soft steel does not get
made into wire AT ALL.
tie wire is soft steel.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
"Tie wire"? Is that what you brits call "lock wire"? The wire used to
keep fasteners from becoming loose and falling off of an assembly?
No, I'm talking about tie wire, as used to secure reinforcing before
pouring concrete. You said "Soft steel does not get made into wire AT
ALL" and that's incorrect.
Learn to read AND to quote properly, you snipping LYING RETARD!
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Convenient ignorance of the fact that you were wrong about "vintageWhy do you harp on about what may or may not be used in the military? They
are hardly a bastion of good practice given the numerous cock ups. In
other words human.
And London Taxis are from a 60 year old design, no doubt. Again you
sport your stupidity like a flag.
And strictly controlled by a licensing authority. Who insist on many
aspects of the design.
I've probably seen more lock wired nuts and bolts than you've had hot
dinners.
Those goalposts are very noisy when moved...
I have been working in the industry for decades, you stupid fuck. IJust admit your 'experience' - if any - is based on a tiny part of the
industry and move on.
side cutters".BTW, would you like a pic of standard side cutters marked
'for use on piano wire' ?
Would that make you shut the f**k up?
--
If they are marked "for use on piano wire", then they are NOT "standard