45-degree diagonal cutters?

Dave Plowman (News) · Feb 19, 2010

In article <gd7tn5hbsus6bkr2gejpk0a61081nqs338@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

And strictly controlled by a licensing authority. Who insist on many
aspects of the design.

Yes. Total pieces of shit that get VERY poor gas mileage.

The last 'gas' one was made over 40 years ago - oh one of small intellect.

Gore would
have a field day with the level of ignorance that takes place over there
as it relates to energy waste during distribution and consumption.

You really do talk some bollocks.

So, asswipe... are they 35 mpg green mobiles, or ancient, archaic
even, piece of shit tanks that give off more CO2 than all the cows on the
planet?

Which make and model are you talking about? There are many. And which US
cab does 35mpg while going about its normal business?

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Dave Plowman (News) · Feb 19, 2010

In article <ui7tn5dc11fjtvl46e75letg6jv27iq5hk@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

I knew about lock wires and the industrial uses for it
back in the late 60s at less then ten years old.

That explains things. Your father wired up your nuts with it.

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Dave Plowman (News) · Feb 19, 2010

In article <6s7tn5po8a6mlpr8rii2k9u664i8padb2s@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:48:09 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, would you like a pic of standard side cutters marked
'for use on piano wire' ?

Would that make you shut the f**k up?

--
If they are marked "for use on piano wire", then they are NOT "standard
side cutters".

If it looks like a dusk, quacks like a duck, there's a good chance it is a
duck.

And they are perfectly standard good quality side cutters. The sort you've
obviously never come across in the pound shop.

The FACT that you have no clue about that basic fact settles the entire
argument.

Sadly you seem to be unable to convince *anyone* reading here. Wonder what
that says?

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Dave Plowman (News) · Feb 19, 2010

In article <sa7tn5p9a78rj3h57i9bn0arerv6b7tc6k@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

Why do you harp on about what may or may not be used in the military?
They are hardly a bastion of good practice given the numerous cock ups.
In other words human.

Convenient ignorance of the fact that you were wrong about "vintage
cars" noted.

You think they used stainless steel locking wire on vintage cars, do you?
Are you just proving how wrong you can be?

Nice job of showing us how much more stupid you can be, once you have
already been proven wrong.

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daestrom · Feb 20, 2010

life imitates life wrote:

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:59:58 -0500, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com
wrote:

life imitates life wrote:
On 18 Feb 2010 09:09:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

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"Tie wire"? Is that what you brits call "lock wire"? The wire used to
keep fasteners from becoming loose and falling off of an assembly?

If so, you are dumber than dog shit. LOCK WIRE is ALL stainless. HIGH
GRADE STAINLESS. It is a mission critical assembly element in nearly ANY
AND ALL military assemblies where vibration is introduced.
Never been on a Navy ship have you?

Bolted flanges in bilges and other areas exposed to seawater use inconel
wire because the bolts and nuts are also made of inconel.

Dissimilar materials in a bilge environment, where you have a lot of
seawater doesn't work very well. Even if one of them is SS.

daestrom

"Iconel" is a stainless superalloy. Nice try though.

Nice try dimbulb.

Most people use the word 'stainless' to refer to one of several
variations of 'stainless steel' alloy. You however seem to have your
own definition and apply it to a lot more than just 'steel'. A 'steel'
alloy has iron as the major component. Inconel (note the correct
spelling), is more than 50% nickel and is not considered a 'steel' alloy
at all.

Making up your own definitions is bound to get you into arguments. Why
am I not surprised, you apparently are the same 'dimbulb' poster as
others claim, just using yet another 'nym.

Monel, another group of alloys composed mostly of nickel, is also used
for a lot of seawater applications. It too is corrosion resistant
('stainless superalloy' to you), but is not considered a 'steel' either.

daestrom

daestrom · Feb 20, 2010

life imitates life wrote:

On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:44:56 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <qkbln5dscr39tdk0cbnh3v2gpefa48gtdm@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
I have a pair of twister pliers for lock wire. They are not actually
meant to be use to CUT the wire either, even though they have side
cutters incorporated into them. Any monkey knows how to flex fracture
wire that uses a medium that work hardens. That is the right way to
"cut" lock wire. In fact, one is supposed to use the side cutter to
simply score the wire a bit, and then the number of flexes is reduced to
just a few.
Lock wire is soft steel. If you have pliers not able to cut that, put them
back in the kid's play box where they came from.

Lock wire is NOT "soft steel" you complete and utter retard. It is a
very specialized, high tensile strength wire. Soft steel does not get
made into wire AT ALL.

Here is your statement that 'soft steel does not get made into wire AT ALL'.

Yet Jason pointed out that 'tie wire' used in concrete rebar assembly is
at least one instance of 'soft steel' being made into wire. It may not
be 'lock wire', but it is 'wire'.

Now go on and rant for a while, we're done dimbulb.

daestrom

life imitates life · Feb 20, 2010

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:19:00 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <ui7tn5dc11fjtvl46e75letg6jv27iq5hk@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
I knew about lock wires and the industrial uses for it
back in the late 60s at less then ten years old.

That explains things. Your father wired up your nuts with it.

Oh boy! The Plowtard has no valid argument, so he reverts to utter
stupidity.

life imitates life · Feb 20, 2010

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:22:23 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <6s7tn5po8a6mlpr8rii2k9u664i8padb2s@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:48:09 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

BTW, would you like a pic of standard side cutters marked
'for use on piano wire' ?

Would that make you shut the f**k up?

--
If they are marked "for use on piano wire", then they are NOT "standard
side cutters".

If it looks like a dusk, quacks like a duck, there's a good chance it is a
duck.

Yet more proof of just how stupid you really are.

There have been twenty new side cutter designs made since your archaic,
retarded ass was ever out in the real world.

The fact that you think that there is only one type proves just how
much of a total fucking retarded loser you are.

And they are perfectly standard good quality side cutters. The sort you've
obviously never come across in the pound shop.

Yet another stupid brit twit reference. We do not have "pound shops"
here you dumb motherfucker.

The FACT that you have no clue about that basic fact settles the entire
argument.

Sadly you seem to be unable to convince *anyone* reading here. Wonder what
that says?

I hadn't noticed a poll. Are you sure that you would want one? I
think you would lose miserably. Also, you hardly even come close to even
a one percentile knowledge of what *anyone* reading here thinks. Yet
more proof that you have no argument.

Your knowledge of metallurgy rests, firmly cemented at ZERO.

life imitates life · Feb 20, 2010

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:22:41 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

In article <sa7tn5p9a78rj3h57i9bn0arerv6b7tc6k@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Why do you harp on about what may or may not be used in the military?
They are hardly a bastion of good practice given the numerous cock ups.
In other words human.

Convenient ignorance of the fact that you were wrong about "vintage
cars" noted.

You think they used stainless steel locking wire on vintage cars, do you?
Are you just proving how wrong you can be?

You claiming that it is soft Iron is fucking ludicrous, boy. I was
talking about your thinking that we used them over here... ever, AND
that you actually think your boys over there use soft Iron for the task.

You are a true idiot. No question.

Nice job of showing us how much more stupid you can be, once you have
already been proven wrong.

Yet again, he does this.

life imitates life · Feb 20, 2010

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:02:36 -0500, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com>
wrote:

life imitates life wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:59:58 -0500, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com
wrote:

life imitates life wrote:
On 18 Feb 2010 09:09:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
"Tie wire"? Is that what you brits call "lock wire"? The wire used to
keep fasteners from becoming loose and falling off of an assembly?

If so, you are dumber than dog shit. LOCK WIRE is ALL stainless. HIGH
GRADE STAINLESS. It is a mission critical assembly element in nearly ANY
AND ALL military assemblies where vibration is introduced.
Never been on a Navy ship have you?

Bolted flanges in bilges and other areas exposed to seawater use inconel
wire because the bolts and nuts are also made of inconel.

Dissimilar materials in a bilge environment, where you have a lot of
seawater doesn't work very well. Even if one of them is SS.

daestrom

"Iconel" is a stainless superalloy. Nice try though.

Nice try dimbulb.

Most people use the word 'stainless' to refer to one of several
variations of 'stainless steel' alloy. You however seem to have your
own definition and apply it to a lot more than just 'steel'. A 'steel'
alloy has iron as the major component. Inconel (note the correct
spelling), is more than 50% nickel and is not considered a 'steel' alloy
at all.

Making up your own definitions is bound to get you into arguments.

You're a goddamned retard.

Why
am I not surprised, you apparently are the same 'dimbulb' poster as
others claim, just using yet another 'nym.

You're a total retard, since you cannot even follow that simple
knowledge. The whole fucking group knows who I am. Only the total
retards like YOU and KRW and the other fucktards that embrace giving me a
hard time. You need a chunk of fast moving lead shoved into your head.
That is what you need. You should consider yourself lucky that I do not
think you are worth the cost.

Monel, another group of alloys composed mostly of nickel, is also used
for a lot of seawater applications. It too is corrosion resistant
('stainless superalloy' to you), but is not considered a 'steel' either.

daestrom

This punk thinks I made up the word "superalloy". Proof that it is you
that has issues with the facts. The term has been in use for over half a
century... more even.

Just because it is predominately Nickel, does not make the iron used in
it of zero value. The fact that it does not oxidize proves that it is a
stainless class metal.

The fact that you are such a closed minded little puke proves that you
got yourself hard wired stupid a long time ago, Navy boy, and there is no
hope for you ever recovering from the stupid attitude that you have.

life imitates life · Feb 20, 2010

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:06:11 -0500, daestrom <daestrom@twcny.rr.com>
wrote:

Here is your statement that 'soft steel does not get made into wire AT ALL'.

Wow. This proves your reading comprehension is at least grade 3.

Yet Jason pointed out that 'tie wire' used in concrete rebar assembly is
at least one instance of 'soft steel' being made into wire.

Are you sure that is what it is? Or are you yet another dolt that
"hears" something, then calls it "fact", all because your feeble mind
"trusts" the source?

You are a true idiot.

It may not
be 'lock wire', but it is 'wire'.

Better check you terms, little boy.

I know more about all wires of all kinds than you ever will, fuckhead.

Now go on and rant for a while, we're done dimbulb.

You were done the day you thought you were "the shit", and that day was
likely decades ago, when your arrogant, yet obviously uneducated ass
thought your Navy path made you better than every one of the kids you
were around in school. That mindset is the very thing that made you LESS
than every single one of them, and everyone else in the world as well. In
that respect, yes... you ARE "the shit". Total shit, is what you are.

life imitates life · Feb 20, 2010

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:17:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Which make and model are you talking about? There are many. And which US
cab does 35mpg while going about its normal business?

ANY cab company that has brains enough to corral a compact car fleet,
you stupid twit. That is basic common sense. And there are plenty of
them too. You really are going south in your old age, OR you have always
been this stupid.

Dave Plowman (News) · Feb 20, 2010

In article <fhlun55sh3jbldo63vlfnm6f9bfbrmsrib@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

If they are marked "for use on piano wire", then they are NOT
"standard side cutters".

If it looks like a dusk, quacks like a duck, there's a good chance it
is a duck.

Yet more proof of just how stupid you really are.

There have been twenty new side cutter designs made since your
archaic, retarded ass was ever out in the real world.

So? Let me remind you of what you said:-

*******

From: life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
Subject: Re: 45-degree diagonal cutters?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:50
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair

There are no cutters that should be used on ANY fucking steel wire,
much less nails.

**********

The fact that you think that there is only one type proves just how
much of a total fucking retarded loser you are.

Since I have several pairs of side cutters of different makes and sizes
there's little chance I think there is only one type...

And they are perfectly standard good quality side cutters. The sort
you've obviously never come across in the pound shop.

Yet another stupid brit twit reference. We do not have "pound shops"
here you dumb motherfucker.

Are you so insular you can't translate that into the things you know?
The 99 cents shops? The sort that sell the side cutters made out of
chocolate you are so fond of?

The FACT that you have no clue about that basic fact settles the
entire argument.

Sadly you seem to be unable to convince *anyone* reading here. Wonder
what that says?

I hadn't noticed a poll. Are you sure that you would want one? I
think you would lose miserably. Also, you hardly even come close to
even a one percentile knowledge of what *anyone* reading here thinks.
Yet more proof that you have no argument.

Your knowledge of metallurgy rests, firmly cemented at ZERO.

And yours consists of thinking steel can rust through in a matter of weeks
in the atmosphere. Time you went to school, I'd say.

You could also learn when stainless steel became commonplace.

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Dave Plowman (News) · Feb 20, 2010

In article <kulun5hn27g371ork9062fouveo0mmb0ga@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

Just because it is predominately Nickel, does not make the iron used in
it of zero value. The fact that it does not oxidize proves that it is a
stainless class metal.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it
means just what I choose it to mean--nether more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many
different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be the master--that's
all."

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Dave Plowman (News) · Feb 20, 2010

In article <dnoun59ql6mq6n685tn15b7pc0k11khb6o@4ax.com>,
life imitates life <pasticcio@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:17:52 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

Which make and model are you talking about? There are many. And which US
cab does 35mpg while going about its normal business?

ANY cab company that has brains enough to corral a compact car fleet,
you stupid twit. That is basic common sense. And there are plenty of
them too. You really are going south in your old age, OR you have always
been this stupid.

Thanks for showing you know even less about cars than tools. No *proper*
cab ever made averages 35 mpg in a large city like London.

But perhaps you live in the sticks and know nothing of such things.

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life imitates life · Feb 20, 2010